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OT: Hospitals suck. Been in the ER since 4p yesterday (now 8:20a), I've been admitted, but there isn't actually a room, so they moved me into a curtained cubicle with about 15 other cubicles.

Had a cardiac stress test yesterday. About an hour after I got home, I got a call from a cardiologist saying they wanted to do a cardiac catherazation. I could schedule it, but they would feel better if I went to the ER and get admitted so they could do it today. I was on a bed in a hallway from 7p until 1a.

Sorry, needed to vent a little.

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Just be careful that the stress of dealing with the healthcare system doesn't give you a heart attack while you're waiting to have a procedure that's supposed to prevent you from having a heart attack (I only half-jest; I know someone that happened to).

Try to think of something nice and soothing, like driving through Mar-a-Lago in a bulldozer!

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If you do that just think about future archeologists. Think of the confusion of them trying to figure out what type of temple complex has a chandelier, a toilet and national secrets all in the same room? Given the painting of Trump and the overall poor quality of the construction, they'll think that we as a nation, worshipped a god of half-assed cringe.

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There’s nothing about Trump that is half ass, in fact, he looks like he’s got extra asses in his diaper.

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And whole-ass entourage of other asses, too.

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Given Trump's construction contracting practices, I expect any 'future archaeologist' would find nothing at all lasting beyond, oh, 2100 or so. Seriously, there are probably 1950s refrigerators that will outlast some of Mar a Lago's buildings.

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Except Marjorie Merriweather Post was the constructor of Mar-A-Lago, in the thirties, it is a historical building that the marmalade Monster bought cheaply, because the state wanted rid of it. It does not deserve all the hate. Trump is merely an infestation of the place, rather .like parasitic infection, such as termites.

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Half-assed cringe. I like that.

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They won't have it any worse than the poor schmucks who get tasked with figuring out what the purpose of Dubai was.

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Or why Las Vegas reproduced several monuments.

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So, the reason people carted rocks 150 miles to build stonehenge was because a 3000 BC gangster figured he'd be outside of regular clan/tribe control that way?

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conspicuous consumption, isn't it?

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Is he in residence?

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It's Joan, do you really have to ask ?

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Ideally he'd be on his way off the property, watching it happen from inside the back of a squad car while he stews in his impotent rage...

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Maybe I'm not being nice here, but I would hope he'd be in one of those bathrooms, once surrounded with classified documents. The last thing that would register in his misguided mind would be the blade of a Cat D9 bulldozer, piercing a wall and coming RIGHT ... AT ... HIM!

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I dunno, I tend to think that being forced to watch all his stuff get taken away or demolished would be a 𝘧𝘢𝘳 greater punishment than anything else that could possibly be done to him.

Probably funnier, too. I bet if he got angry enough his spray-tan would melt right off his face just like Rudy's hair dye.

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Thanks for the image. When I get home, I may see if I can render it.

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I partially disagree, sure it would be fun but only if he is put under house arrest after the destruction. If he ends in jail, he will be a more inconvenience than he already is

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Vent all you want ... just GET WELL SOON, PLEASE!!!

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Just don't vent near a doctor. The insurance doesn't cover that.

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They are right, you don't want to end in the reanimation ward for cardiac troubles.

Big hug. I hope you will be able to get out fast.

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Hope all goes well and I can’t blame anyone for venting about being in a hallway.

I was once stuck in a hallway, quietly throwing up into a bag. In front of too many others also stuck. Barfing should be a private affair.

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I had a friend who broke her arm skiing. She was admitted and left in a hallway. I don’t remember if they gave her too much pain meds or why it happened, but her heart stopped and she needed to be resuscitated right there in the hall. Had a doctor not noticed as he walked past she would have died.

They really shouldn’t be leaving patients in halls.

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I was right by the nurses station. As were the other 3.

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Vent away. Hospitals these days are suffering from post-COVID. Many nurses, due to explosive tempers from Neanderthal-like patients, quit. Be an attraction: humor the nurses with a jokey attitude and you'll win them over.

Get well. We're rooting for you in a healthy recovery.

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Get better soon. Bed in a hospital hallway always sucks. Of course you have the right to vent.

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Similar thing happened to my mom back in the day, but they were more on the ball and stopped her just before she walked out the front door, so she didn't have to go through the indignity of going to the ER. The mantra "hurry up and wait" was the same, though. Best thoughts your way.

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Bonne chance...

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I thought I'd had a pretty rotten day, but you win.

Feel better soon.

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I just hope you are not pregnant.

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𝐼𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑢𝑝 𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒𝑠, 𝑖𝑡’𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡, 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ-𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑜𝑟 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑑.

I think it is more narrow than that. The conservatives on the Supreme Court have made it clear that 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘯 religious groups can get away with anything. Let's see an Islamic school try the same thing.

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I remember in Louisiana a law was passed allowing tax dollars be used to fund religious schools. Then an Islamic school wanted funds. The law's author said "I thought 'religious' meant 'Christian'!" and had her own law repealed.

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Typical. They can't think outside their own bubble until action from the outside FORCES them to do so!

Talk about a failure of imagination!

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Catholic and mainline Protestant groups, specifically- have the Mormons or any of the other "only Christian when it's convenient for the more equal animals" brands of Christianity gotten any preferential treatment from SCROTUS lately?

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One cannot simply have their hate and force others to eat it too. At least that’s the rule in Maine. Other jurisdictions mileage obviously varies.🙄

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OT- Conversion "therapy" banned by executive order in Kentucky: https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-conversion-therapy-andy-beshear-93a07354cd0ed2e7fc09c15f204f75c0

Sadly, no chance of a legislative ban, on account of the statehouse having a chronic case of the Republicans, but it's better than nothing.

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"Chronic case of the Republicans."

That's good. Permission to steal?

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If they said it was OK for public schools to actively discriminate against Christian students and still receive federal funding, how would Christians react?

Yeah. Thought so.

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To all Maine bigots...

Your Jesus said nothing about LGBTQs in the 4 gospels. Not one word. You have no scriptural basis to stand on.

CHRISTIANS: "But the Old Testament says..."

Screw the Old Testament. You yourselves have stated that it no longer applies cuz Jesus (who said just the opposite, btw).

Oh, and your state's favorite son Stephen King has a lesbian daughter, a minister in the UUs. She's married to a black woman. A doctor. The King family, Naomi's father, mother and brothers and THEIR families, embrace them. You got something to say about that? If you do, I suggest keeping your bigotry to yourself. You really don't want to piss off a family of authors.

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"CHRISTIANS: "But the Old Testament says..."

EXACTLY!

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Churches can pay their own goddamn way. Let them pray for what they need. It's what their savior said to do.

They won''t do it, of course. They know as well as we do that prayer is worthless, despite their claims of faith/belief/trust in Jesusgod. Once again, they lust after money. I do believe Jesus had something to say about that.

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Sep 18·edited Sep 18

Long term, perhaps the best legislative rule to make is that any private school functioning as a proxy public school (i.e. getting funds) must accept any kid that could go to a public school. That seems particularly appropriate to the Maine case, where the government's stated reason for the private partnership seems based on geographic service limits not on 'school choice' politics.

It's not perfect. It probably throws out some good single-sex schools with the bathwater. And the state would probably have to pitch in extra funds for schools serving some disabled kids. But it is compellingly simple, 'fit for purpose', and completely avoids left-right culture war legal issues.

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OT: This is WAY off-topic, and I know it is, but I feel as though I have to put it out there. This is a commentary from Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC, regarding the death of one Amber Nicole Thurman, as a result of her not being able to get proper medical care in the wake of a chemically induced abortion. I have been watching Mr. O'Donnell for a fair while now, and I don't believe I have EVER seen him as angry yet under control as I did in the following segment.

And I sorrow for Ms. Thurman and for her surviving son. They didn't deserve what happened, but as Lawrence says, those who wanted to criminalize abortion got what they wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMaHAI5tGUI

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Here's another story that dropped today: https://www.propublica.org/article/candi-miller-abortion-ban-death-georgia

The body count rises.

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Their blood is on the hands of kkkristers and repuglikkkons.

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Damn, she sounds like a lovely woman, though saddled with some TOUGH conditions. She no more deserved what happened to her than Ms. Thurman did, yet Republicans and Forced-Birthers will insist on life uber alles.

Seems like some of those people can't see the forest for all those gol-darn trees.

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Sep 18·edited Sep 18

What WILL WE DO about this? Contact your repuglicant senator and tell them her blood is on their hands. *67senator phone# hides your number.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

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She won't be the last. And is quite possibly not the first. But I sincerely hope that the Democrats are posting this story everywhere. Because from what I can gather elections are won by emotions rather than facts. And this is as emotional as it gets.

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OT : got news about DM, she is victim of an infection who probably attacked her kidneys fragility by the chemi, it's probablywhat provoked the metformine overdose. She is an articial coma with respiratory assistance, her blood is acidic and she needs continuous dialysis

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So sorry to hear that. Best wishes.

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May her recovery be full and swift.

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Oh, no, much love and healing to you both.

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We are denying their religious right to deny other people basic human rights.

Good.

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Hey ... if you can't get them on State / Church separation, get them on their bigotry! Someone in Maine clearly thought this through, and when (not "if!") it gets challenged by the court system, I will be VERY curious to see what opinions come down.

Do Christian organizations have the RIGHT to discriminate while using public monies? TUNE IN NEXT WEEK AND FIND OUT!

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The conservative churches are basically arguing that not allowing them to violate anti-discrimination law violates anti-discrimination law. They have a hard time grasping the concept that their right to practice their religion ends at my right to be free of their practice of religion.

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I thought SCOTUS had already made clear their feelings on LGBTQ2SIA discrimination. If you use religion as an excuse, it's hunky-dory.

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I hardly know how to respond to this insanity anymore except to reiterate that we must win a vote proof majority for BOTH House and Senate along with our Harris/Walz president/VP winners.

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Sep 18·edited Sep 18

Probably not gonna happen.

-Harris seems better than even odds now. But just barely.

-House is less likely, but downballot voting for Harris could pull it through. I'd consider this the same chance as President, because they may go together.

-Senate...23 of the 34 seats being contested are currently Dem. Which means Dems are much more likely to lose seats than gain them. Unless Trump's campaign implodes in the next couple months, I would get used to the idea of a GOP Senate.

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These schools seem to be confused about what the constitution protects. The constitution protects the people, the citizens and in this case the students. It protects the people from the government and all of its representatives, aka the organizations that take tax money to provide goods and services to the people, in other words, you. By demanding that you provide services to all students no matter their race, religion, gender/sex, or LGBTQ status, the state is being constitutional, you are allowed to hold whatever beliefs you want, but to be able to receive government taxes for the service you provide you cannot force those beliefs on others or exclude people from utilizing the service the taxpayers paid for.

Essentially, the constitution protects an individual citizen before it protects an organization and before it protects an organization that is acting as a government agency (this is where you sit). The students’ rights to an education free from forced religion trumps your right to discriminate based on misinterpretation of your Bible. And even if you interpret the passages correctly, you still cannot constitutionally collect tax money to discriminate.

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But..but..corporations are people.

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Unless they say something a Republican doesn't like!

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See Ron DeNazi.

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Sep 18·edited Sep 18

Sure thing. Let's explore that. As people, they can be employed by the government. When they are, they get the same lack of rights that conservatives want other people employees to lack. ;)

Like, say, the lack to dictate what an employment contract should say. *People* can take the contract or leave it, but not take it and demand it give the employee things it doesn't give them.

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Preventing discrimination is the worst type of discrimination. It is like trying to fire proof a house by building it up to fire-code, using appropriate building materials and not letting kids play with gasoline and matches. When everyone knows that the best way to fire proof a house is to burn it to the ground. Ashes don't burn.

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Everybody knows there's 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 so Christian as setting things on fire!

...also occasionally people.

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Well, you see, if you terrify the heretics by burning too many, then they all hide and it's hard to find enough heretics to hold a decent heretic burning! It's a delicate balance.

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By calling me racist, you show that you are the worst racist.

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Exactly only a true racist would notice racism, because race is all they see. If they truly weren't racist, they wouldn't see race, and therefor, wouldn't notice racism.

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They're only racist because all those uppity minorities insist on existing.

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