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Big surprise: Joe Kennedy is a phony-baloney Christian crusader. Another big surprise: the Christian Reich of the Supreme Court got SNOOKERED by his bullshit. They bought his malarkey, hook, line, and sinker. What continues to be disturbing to me is that the evidence that SCOTUS completely mishandled this case is out there for all to see (or at least all who might give a damn), yet nothing can be done about it, since they are the court of last resort.

And the Separation of State and Church upon which this country was founded has been weakened by these self-serving jackasses. You do NOT want to guess how PISSED I am at this point. ๐Ÿ˜ก

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The Christian Reich of the Supreme Court did not get SNOOKERED, they wanted this with all their black hearts. If they got hearts.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

๐ต๐‘–๐‘” ๐‘ ๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘’: ๐ฝ๐‘œ๐‘’ ๐พ๐‘’๐‘›๐‘›๐‘’๐‘‘๐‘ฆ ๐‘–๐‘  ๐‘Ž ๐‘โ„Ž๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘ฆ-๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ฆ ๐ถโ„Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘Ž๐‘› ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ

Oh, he's a true-to-form Christian Crusader. Nothing phony about his crusaderness ;)

Trying to make lemonade out of lemons for the moment, hopefully school administrators and kids will realize their interests align more with the secularists with whom they don't share a religion than with the fundies with whom they do. A lesson in the pitfalls of tribalism. Or if you must pick a tribe, go with "team we all want a good education for our kids" not "team we all worship Jesus."

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According to the article, nobody joined him or even paid any attention to his prayermongering at all.

His twisted little mind has convinced him that the Klans Kangaroo Kourt order actually meant that everybody is ORDERED to join him in the VERY PUBLIC and VERY AGAINST Matthew 6:5 prayers, and that their refusal to do so is violating the Kourt order.

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No need to guess, I am right there with you.

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"A family health situation"???? WTF-them preyers ain't working? Jesus christ-that's a shock. Them prayers ain't working for the children of Sudan either who are dying in large numbers of disease and starvation DAILY. That god who needs so fucking much praise and adoration is screwing those children too.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Grand Plan and mysterious ways. Grand Plan not only calls for certain people to die, but they have to suffer horribly in the process. See Ghoul of Kolkatta (FB), and St. Jude CRH.

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But...but...suffering is good for you because it brings you closer to God! :S

I see that when it came to HER suffering, she stayed as far away from her god as possible and trusted in the best science, technology and modern medicine available in Europe and the USofA.

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She couldn't properly oversee the suffering of others if she was suffering doncha know.

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God is still trying to figure out who to shift the illness to, presumably.

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His public show of public prayer was snubbed. To a martyrbating Qristian, that is a serious health issue!

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And only if they pray in the right* way. Praying in the wrong way doesnโ€™t work. Just ask all the prayer experts.

*To be clear, there are hundreds if not thousands of right ways and just as many wrong ways. If that wasnโ€™t clear, pray** for guidance and discernment.

**In the RIGHT way!!!!

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Sep 8, 2023ยทedited Sep 8, 2023

And there are literally hundreds of books that will teach you the right way to pray. ๐Ÿ™„

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Is that what it is called? I remember once stretching it out over 4 or 5 โ€œlevelsโ€. Just for the hell of it.

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"He got everything he wanted."

Weeeeeellll now, I'd guess he didn't, actually.

I suspect what Joe Kennedy wanted was to be able to force tired, bruised, sweaty high school football players to pray with him. I suspect that most of the reason he left is because the community communicated they'd had enough of his shenanigans and essentially shunned his prayer on the 50 yard line after the game. (It looked pretty lonely out there to me in the picture) The whole point was trying to force everyone else to agree with him, not that he wanted to be able to pray; sure, he got what he asked for, but it wasn't really what he wanted. In this case, he wanted more than just being right, he wanted to rub everyone's nose in it and now that they're not impressed with him over it, he's doing the taking his toys and leaving routine.

At this point, I would guess any movie made is either going to stop before that point, or take 'creative license' and have him praying with a bunch of players on the field. SCOTUS should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for ruling on this case and my hope is a (near?!?!? please?) future court overturns this decision with blistering commentary.

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Not only will players join him on the field, but at least one (probably a half dozen) will be led in the Sinner's prayer after by the 'humble servant of Jesus' Joe Kennedy.

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"He got everything he wanted. So what the hell is he so mad about?"

In my opinion he expected to be worshipped by everyone who came to the game for his (delusional) fight for persecuted christians.

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He's only mad on the surface. Deep down he has the self-righteous smugness saying "see I really am getting persecuted."

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I donโ€™t think he thinks he persecuted. Heโ€™s like Joe the Plumber; becomes the poster child for a movement of grievances and then rides the wave to fame and fortune; grifting all the ignorant rubes in the evangelical movement.

So now his brand is religious persecution. The manโ€™s a 21st century Gandhi or Mandela....:)

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He knows he isn't being persecuted, he just wants to he able to ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฎ persecution to further the grift. He's already working the book deal and likely speaking tour.

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Very true, heโ€™ll milk this for every penny...:)

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Funnily enough, Joe the Plumber was exactly who I thought about too.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

As I said in the previous post about him let's see how much time his smugness will last once he will be discarded from the christian persecution circuit for a shining new toy.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Kennedy leaves chaos in his wake all for a few seconds to violate his savior's instructions found in Matthew 6:5-6. All for him to childishly get in the last word.

Like your religion requires you to do, Kennedy? Even atheists know your religion requires you to pray in secret, away from the public eye.

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He deliberately did all this just for show.

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Virtue signaling and territory marking. The two primary actions from the Christian playbook.

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Both represented by them pissing on everything.

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I for one am beyond sick of Christian performance art that celebrates the victimization of Christians for merely trying to force their faith into public spaces paid for with everyone's tax dollars. I have no idea what he thought he performative prayers were going to accomplish. Don't even try telling me the players on that team weren't pressured into participating, because that is how group dynamics work.

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Both the coach AND the judges know how group dynamics works. Of course they do. That's why this was brought to court and why the decision landed where it did. I don't visit theocrazy countries so my inlaws have to come here if they want to meet us.

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Let's hope Coach Joe ends up like Joe the Plumber - forgotten and diminished.

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Despite my distaste for the guy, sad to die so young. How the hell does Trump keep going?!

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OT: Worst. News. Ever.

"Republican Presidential candidates Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump, Asa Hutchinson & Vivek Ramaswamy all plan to attend Saturday's Iowa at Iowa State game."

I may have to skip watching.

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Go see 'Barbie'. Then you won't have to worry about the singularity of asshole.

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Well if you want something to watch โ€“ the All Blacks play France tomorrow morning at 7. I think the Warriors have got a game on the weekend I think tomorrow at 6 PM โ€“ mind you playing the Panthers so they might lose. I know you don't have any emotions invested in the AB's game, but there's some grudge there given the comments the French have been making about the state of the All Blacks at the moment. So maybe thoughts and prayers at least? ๐Ÿ˜

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I may be desperate, but not that desperate. : )

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My man! France versus the All Blacks! โ€“ well your loss I guess.

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If only I knew some people from NZ and France. : )

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Martin Penwald was French.

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Well, UW looks to drub...er, take on Tulsa this Saturday. ;)

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What conference are they in again? (cheap shot)

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Sep 8, 2023ยทedited Sep 8, 2023

This year is Pac-12s last hurrah. For our part, we look to make it a memorable one. :D

(Clobbered Boise State 56 - 19 last week)

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Sep 8, 2023ยทedited Sep 8, 2023

I'll be rooting for the Lightning.

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Don't you mean the All Blacks will crush the French ? ๐Ÿ˜

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Honestly? Things are a lot closer than they used to be. And some people have the French as favourites. Maybe not in the NZ betting scene, but ... Both teams under a huge amount of pressure due to expectations I think. Anyway, I keep telling myself it's only a game.

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Nowhere on Earth is football (American, Australian, or futbol) just a game.

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Thinking about you. DM is watching a game show and the host, who is a huge rugby fan, invited a team of Haka dancers.

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God help us, I was on MSN, and already the haters are out pitching about the Haka. There was an exchange โ€“ Why do we have to have the Haka whine whine.

Is it the tradition you object to or the fact that it's Maori?

Oh there's too many of them and it's too violent.

Mate โ€“ you're watching rugby. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Replace the Haka with la bourrรฉe auvergnate, see them still complaining.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0j9dTBJWWE

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French square dancing.

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Swing vos partenaires.

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I didn't know the French invented square dancing.

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Actually it's the Russians.

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Condolences.

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It's bad enough that all the politicians muck up the State Fair. Now they're messing with football.

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No better place to connect with the faux patriots and toxic men (and the women who think that's what a man is) who are their base

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Sep 8, 2023ยทedited Sep 8, 2023

Can reality withstand this much concentrated asshole in one place?

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Maybe a cyclone will sweep them all away.

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Sep 8, 2023ยทedited Sep 8, 2023

Trump would sue the cyclone because he'd claim it kept the game away from him.

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"The cyclone was rigged against me. Election, I mean, game, interference!"

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He couldn't get it to roll through Georgia to help him.

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I'm unclear what the artist Georgia O'Keefe has to do with the topic at hand. *cymbal crash*

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Reality was able to withstand John Birch Society meetings and the 1992 Republican convention in Houston. It's been down this hideous road before and still managed to come out on top.

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Just think positive thoughts when one of the not-so-fabulous foursome appear on the screen. You'll get through it! *smiles*

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I can probably handle once per candidate, but more than that....

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/brick-window-flying-broken-glass-87229008.jpg

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OT - As I prophesied

๐๐ž๐ฐ ๐ฅ๐š๐ฐ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐…๐ฅ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐๐š ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐Ÿ๐š๐œ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐ฏ๐ž, ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฏ๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฌ๐š๐ฒ๐ฌ

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-laws-in-florida-and-elsewhere-are-pushing-faculty-to-leave-survey-says/ar-AA1glXAx

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

https://www.wired.com/story/states-with-abortion-bans-are-losing-a-generation-of-ob-gyns/

Not just academics โ€“ doctors too.

I sometimes wonder โ€“ just as an academic exercise because I don't live in the US โ€“

1. Did they not foresee this?

2. Do they not care?

3. Are they actively pursuing this outcome?

I'm tempted to say 3 โ€“ because no matter what happens the people in charge will get their medical treatment. And they don't give a shit about anyone else.

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They are incapable of caring until it directly affects them.

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Most times, that caring doesnโ€™t extend beyond Themselves Only.

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1. They saw it, they were told it would happen

2. No, they donโ€™t care

3. Yes.

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They care if their property dies due to lack of proper medical care. But since that property keeps going to medical care without their permission, and what's worse, medical doctors continue to treat their property without their express permission, then frak it. Get rid of those doctors AND the property that won't stay in line.

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That's why I say that repukelicans are too stupid to think. And no, they don't care.

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Brain drain.

Can't figure out if the current administration in Florida is brainless or braindead.

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Either way, they're bound and determined to make sure everyone else in the state is as pig-ignorant as they are.

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Why not both?

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The brain drain started in 1969 when I left the state. : )

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It's not just a brain *drain* They're running stupid from the faucet.

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Not bug. Feature.

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You have to add those who reached retirement age and won't renew their contract to theses numbers.

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I'm a big fan of the rule of law. Too bad there are 6 "justices" on the US Supreme Court who aren't.

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And itโ€™s always the same six.

Almost as if they were installed specifically to flout the law.

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Since this coaching gig only pays $5,304, I can't help but wonder what his day job was.

Btw, I'm typing this with both hands! Woohoo!!!

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His day job appears to be Christian grifter.

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Thatโ€™s always their first job.

Everything else is always their side gig.

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Every coach I ever had was a teacher. A couple were even good teachers.

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Really? All the ones I had did a mediocre job in some social studies subject.

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Was wondering how your visit with the sawbones went. Good news, indeed.

See what happens when you pray? ;)

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Yep, spaghetti and meatballs every Friday night since the accident. ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

I'm part-Italian. S&M is in my blood.

Let me rephrase that...

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If I do, it's usually not on purpose. Found some good salmon at the store, might make salmon patties.

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I never think about when I eat fish, I find a way to have decent fish, I eat it. Now, I live in the heart of the fish fry, so I may eat more fish on Fridays since itโ€™s marketed that way. Itโ€™s marketed that way because of religious reasons, maybe because of the Fry sound in Friday, but Iโ€™m not doing it out of any religious reasoning.

Besides, when my family was still participating in the Catholic traditions, this one was not one of them. My parents even told me fish frys were Friday because of the fry sound.

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So was it ice cream on sundays then?

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Grilled tilapia sandwich from Salem's tonight. Which is kinda coincidental since I recently started binging ๐‘‡โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐ถโ„Ž๐‘–๐‘™๐‘™๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐ด๐‘‘๐‘ฃ๐‘’๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘  ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘†๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘Ž.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Since I still have some pain when I use my left hand, I was afraid it wasn't healing properly and that I would need to have a pin or two inserted. The x-ray showed it's healing fine.

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Whew! At my age, I fret a bit about every twinge, pain, ache or soreness. Especially when they don't appear to have a cause.

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If I were to fret about every twinge of pain I feel, I wouldn't have time to do much else.

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Getting old sucks. It gets to a point where you don't know your own body anymore.

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"Intelligent design," my ass.

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That's why I reacquaint myself with it regularly.

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But Everybodyโ€™s Doing It

https://youtu.be/N4e_IZFwTfM

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I am paying more attention to where I am walking now.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.44462b4b04918983f93476e3779e0a4d?rik=x5byQ3DwJI1x3A&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

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Looks like me. The concrete here is very uneven wherever I seem to go. I tripped and fell twice in two days over seemingly nothing in the sidewalk. This old body can't take the hits it used to.

Was lucky that I only came away with a sore arm both times.

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I run on rough ground in the bush partly to work on balance. And the ground is softer if you do fall. ๐Ÿ˜

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Congrats. Is the subject of your downfall still laying there for it's next prey ?

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No, they removed it.

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I didnโ€™t see a link to the article that described Kennedyโ€™s career at the school, how long he was a coach there and when the prayers started, Iโ€™m sure it was reported on before. I would venture a guess that he was there just long enough to get enough attention for the prayers to become a nuisance. It does seem like he got involved in coaching just so he could pull this shit. Even if he had started coaching for the love of the sport, his motives at the end are clearly not student athlete centered or even sport centered.

And it isnโ€™t like football isnโ€™t already steeped in Christian indoctrination, there are huge National Christian organizations centered on bringing god to football players starting at the peewee leagues. There are stories after stories about high school coaches hiring chaplains for their teams and going right into baptisms on the practice fields. What did football need with another coach praying in the most conspicuous way at the most conspicuous spot during the most conspicuous moment of the game?

What needed to happen was an actual Hollywood studio spend their minimal money making a movie that was more realistic about the facts of the case and releasing it just before his came out. Maybe not presenting him as the obvious villain, but a true telling of the story would leave folks with the idea that he isnโ€™t the hero. Maybe with the focus on one of the student athletes perspective rather than his. Plus, it would undermine his financial gain from the movie and book.

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Your excellent comment made me think of George Clooneyโ€™s movie about the cover-up of sexual abuse of Ohio State University wrestling team members when Jim Jordan was a coach thereโ€ฆ I googled it & the most recent article I could find was from April; it said the movie is complete but HBO owns the rights & has nothing to say about when or if itโ€™ll be released. Pretty disappointing

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โ€œThe school district informed the justices and explained that the case was now moot. The justices ignored the mootness because, again, these justices want to take these cases. Theyโ€™re eager to weaponize religious freedom and consummate the Crusade.โ€

No doubt! These religious fanatics want to turn this country into The American Taliban; a Christian version of Sharia Law.

They already ruled on the faux website case in Colorado, in which the plaintive didnโ€™t even have a website, so she didnโ€™t have standing to sue.

In Texas, those religious doctors got another religious fanatic judge to rule on behalf on outlawing the abortion pill, mifepristone, without ever treating an abortion patient; again, no standing.

I used to believe that many of these judges who donned a black robe somehow were bestowed a wisdom that eludes the rest of us.

Now Iโ€™m convinced, these judges are just a bunch of ignorant, religious wing-nuts, who never read the Establishment Clause of the Constitution which clearly states no one religion is above another.

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Sep 7, 2023ยทedited Sep 7, 2023

Some of them are infected with the idea that the Establishment Clause only prohibits Congress from declaring one specific denomination to be the official Church of the United States.

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Agreed...:)

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. . . one specific ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐š๐ง denomination to be the official Church of the United States.

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[๐‘Š]โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘ก โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘ ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘๐‘’๐‘‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘  ๐‘Ž ๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘ ๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘Ž๐‘ก ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐ต๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘š๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘†๐‘โ„Ž๐‘œ๐‘œ๐‘™ ๐ท๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘๐‘ก.

That would be the fact that the local taxpayers are pissed off that he cost them a shitload of money. There is also the fact that without the implied coercive threat he once held, no one would help him piss on the constitution at midfield.

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This sounds like heโ€™s gearing up for another lawsuit. โ€œTheyโ€™re not following the decision, theyโ€™re being mean to me again. Wah wah, my big brotherโ€™s gonna beat you up!โ€

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I think it's neither. The dude planned his exit strategy something like 3 years ago, so this is just his excuse for leaving.

But if I had to put money on first or second, I'm going with second. As Black Hole Mourner says, I think he expected all the (Christian) parents and kids to see him as a local hero and was surprised and upset when they sided with us meanie nonChristians. But I think that happened years ago, and is one of the reasons he decided to move to Florida. This weeks' letter is just an excuse.

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Seeing Holy Joe out there all by his lonesome reminds me of Jesus talking about hypocrites praying in public to be seen by the public. Joe thinks he'll get rewarded in heaven. Jesus says having an audience watching his act is all the reward he will ever get.

He wanted his old job back? Pensacola wasn't what he thought it would be? Not the gravy train he expected it would be? Tough. He made his decision. It's too late. They rented out his room after he moved away. Would love to see Bremerton High now go on a tear and win the championship. All without you-know-who.

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