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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

Homelessness is ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด the result of larger societal problems.

We have enough money, food, and shelter in this country that no one should ever find themselves in want... but we also have billionaires hoarding riches like they're fucking dragons, corporations that don't pay taxes (or worse, pay ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ taxes), employers who routinely steal wages from their employees, supermarkets that throw out food by the dumpster-load, farmers who get paid subsidies to destroy their crops... and thousands upon thousands of houses, condos, and apartments sitting empty because they're worth more money that way, or some oligarch wanted to hide some of their wealth in real estate, or just because everyone who might've lived in them has been priced out of the housing market.

Oh, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ a healthcare system which is predatory to its very core, to the point where one bad day can wipe out a person's savings and put them in so much debt they lose their home to medical bills, and which also regards mental healthcare as a luxury rather than a necessity. Oh, and let's ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ not forget racism, homophobia, transphobia, and other assorted bigotry, because marginalized groups make up a majority of the homeless population- and we have Christian "love" to thank for most of ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต shit. And I'm probably still leaving dozens of other factors out. I'd be shocked stupid if there was a single person in this entire shithole country who's outdoors and is even ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ญ๐˜บ to blame for that situation.

"Sin," my ass. Unless by "sin" you mean "๐˜™๐˜ฆ๐˜ฑ๐˜ถ๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ-๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฎ."

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Enough with this prosperity Bible garbage! IIRC, Jesus was homeless. Did he think of that?

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Jesus was homeless and relied on charity. What sin did he committed ?

Weigand is right but not the way he thinks. If we talk christian language, greed is one of the root causes of homelessness. He shows a perfect example of it.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

A mind-numbingly stupid statement, even by the very low standards of the religious right. Who gets to determine what constitutes sin? Him? Judging by the staggering number of Christian tribes in the world there doesn't seem to be any consensus on that question. In my experience the holier-than-thou crowd always has a religious justification for their cruelty.

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Sin is the cause; the sin of rich bastards hoarding all the money and not sharing or doing anything to make the world a better place.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

"to why we have people being mean to other people, it's sin."

I would say that the ultimate sin is being mean to other people, like blaming them for problems that they are not responsible for, including original sin, or not feeding and housing the homeless and the Hungry, as jesus himself advised.

So, it seems that in a very roundabout and perverted and twisted way, weigand is correct. Unfortunately, he doesn't recognize that it's his own REAL sins that are the problem, not the imaginary sins of other people.

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According to Weigand, I have committed all sorts of sin, yet I own a house. I imagine most homeowners in Madison have sinned in his eyes. So much for the sin = homelessness theory.

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"...๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ, ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด. ๐˜๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ง. ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ช๐˜ด."

"๐˜๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต--"

"๐˜•๐˜ฐ. ๐˜๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต. ๐˜ž๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ'๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ. ๐˜—๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ด."

"๐˜–๐˜ฉ, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด--"

"๐˜‰๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด..."

- ๐˜Š๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ ๐˜‘๐˜ถ๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ฎ, by Sir Terry Pratchett.

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Bible study time:

Deuteronomy 15:11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, โ€˜You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.โ€™

Personal charity. Acts of kindness. Everything the church should be doing. Everything Christians should be doing when they see the poor among them.

Yes, there we go. God thinks of the poor and wants us to give to them and help them personally.

Well, yes, but thereโ€™s more context.

Deut. 15: 4 But there will be no poor among you; for the LORD will bless you in the land that the LORD your God is giving you for an inheritance to possessโ€” 5 if only you will strictly obey the voice of the LORD your God, being careful to do all this commandment that I command you today.

The poor will always be with us, but if we obeyed the commands of God, it says there would be no poor. So what are the commands of God according to the Law that folks like this so often like to use to bash others?

Deuteronomy 15: 1 - Debt Forgiveness every seven years:

Leviticus 19:9 - Food assistance/welfare programs โ€œโ€˜When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. 10 Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 14:22, 28 - a 10% tax on everyone every third year that would be set aside to feed the poor, migrants, and priests (of course... they always got a cut).

Lastly, Leviticus 25:23 - Land reform laws. Land would be returned to the people who originally owned it once a generation.

So there you go, Christians. Yes, you are commanded to be charitable, but only because of your sin in failing to pass and support corporate government-initiated and run efforts to alleviate poverty through direct assistance, land reform, and debt forgiveness.

So kindly remove the log from your own eye, confess and admit your greed and disdain for your fellow man, repent of it, and support government programs to address poverty as you are commanded to.

Thus endeth the lesson.

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What an entitled little shit, hiding his innate SADISM behind his โ€œbible.โ€ Thereโ€™s spirituality, and then there is the SADISM that politicians like this use to mask their corrupt, unconscionable politics. He is an installed puppet, paid by billionaires who want to see this democracy fail. An entitled, POS sadistโ€”people should be throwing rotten eggs.

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Well, if those homeless didn't want to be homeless, they should just buy houses. It's just sloth on their part.

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This is the same fucko that nearly had all World Naked Bike Rides in the state banned last year because he said that the law should protect him from having to be offended. A real piece of work this guy

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Maybe Iโ€™m misunderstanding, but if sin was the cause wouldnโ€™t a large chunk of pastors, ministers, congresspeople, Trump and his sycophants be homeless? ๐Ÿค”

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 19

Hey, Weigand...

"Then he [Jesus] will turn to those on his left and say 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink. I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They will also answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for the least of these, you did not do for me."

-- Matthew 25:41-45

Uh oh, Jeffy. Seems you're on the waterslide to the hot place after your earthly existence is done. Your own savior condemns you.

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Weigand seems to be wearing clothes of mixed fabric. And I'll bet he hasn't given all his worldly goods away. Smite him!

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Werenโ€™t Adam and Eve homeless right from the beginning? They lived in a fucking garden!

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