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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

Homelessness is ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด the result of larger societal problems.

We have enough money, food, and shelter in this country that no one should ever find themselves in want... but we also have billionaires hoarding riches like they're fucking dragons, corporations that don't pay taxes (or worse, pay ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ taxes), employers who routinely steal wages from their employees, supermarkets that throw out food by the dumpster-load, farmers who get paid subsidies to destroy their crops... and thousands upon thousands of houses, condos, and apartments sitting empty because they're worth more money that way, or some oligarch wanted to hide some of their wealth in real estate, or just because everyone who might've lived in them has been priced out of the housing market.

Oh, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ a healthcare system which is predatory to its very core, to the point where one bad day can wipe out a person's savings and put them in so much debt they lose their home to medical bills, and which also regards mental healthcare as a luxury rather than a necessity. Oh, and let's ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ not forget racism, homophobia, transphobia, and other assorted bigotry, because marginalized groups make up a majority of the homeless population- and we have Christian "love" to thank for most of ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต shit. And I'm probably still leaving dozens of other factors out. I'd be shocked stupid if there was a single person in this entire shithole country who's outdoors and is even ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ญ๐˜บ to blame for that situation.

"Sin," my ass. Unless by "sin" you mean "๐˜™๐˜ฆ๐˜ฑ๐˜ถ๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ-๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฎ."

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My insurance denied the surgery I had in February even though the hospital got pre approval. Apparently the sent a form to us by mail that asked if I had other insurance and decided not to pay anything until this piece of paper is returned. Nevermind that we have been paying the premium contracted to cover all four of us, they get to deny claims because they think there might be other insurance involved with no reason whatsoever to think so. Just another hoop to jump through. Next theyโ€™re going to say I am not qualified because I could get insurance through my work and if we want to keep it through my hubsโ€™ insurance we have to at an additional monthly fee to the contracted premiums we already pay. This happened to us before we switched to his insurance. They already denied my MRI because they determined Iโ€™m not high enough risk even though my doctor said I was. Iโ€™m not paying anything until the insurance company gets its head out its ass, theyโ€™ll get the paper soon enough.

Single payer now!

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People who scream bloody murder about hypothetical "government death panels" have evidently never had to deal with an insurance company. Privatization of essential services is always a mistake; profit motives always stand in opposition to the service itself.

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โ€œUnlike politicians and doctors, I can admit that we already have death panels; they just prefer to go by the name insurance companies.โ€

โ€”Joel Stein, Time, 2009 Aug. 31

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I had a right wing crazy Republican congressman during the Obamacare debate and for a few years after it became law. He would go on about โ€œdeath panelsโ€. One day I called his office to ask for assistance with something. The young staffer was eager to please and asked what I needed. I said I wanted to be appointed to one of those death panels the congressman had mentioned. Said I thought I would be good at it. But I couldnโ€™t seem to find any info on the internet about how to apply and thatโ€™s what I needed help with.

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Iowa's Chuck Grassley was pushing the Death Panels for Granny shtick. He was a statesman, a long time ago. It's sad to see them crash like that.

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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

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I've said before, since some bureaucrat is going to get between me and my healthcare, regardless, I'd rather that bureaucrat work for me.

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Hmm. It sounds like they're just immediately denying everything they get, something that's supposed to be illegal but most insurance companies still do. Be careful with these guys, it sure sounds like they're hoping you'll pay for things so they don't have to.

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Theyโ€™ve been paying everything just fine until this year started. They sent us a form and denied everything because we havenโ€™t returned the form yet. I mailed the form back this week, now that I know they are looking for it, it was just another piece of mail until the bills started rolling in (and my husbandโ€™s responsibility since it required his signature). The problem is, even if I have other insurance, I contracted with them to pay my fucking bills and upheld my end of the contract by paying a family of four premium every month. Anything other insurance is supplemental and not their fucking business.

Iโ€™m not paying anything and Iโ€™m giving my healthcare provider (that I would never have gone to if I had insurance that covered any other provider) notice to try again. Also for the MRI I did find out my great aunt died from breast cancer so I do have the genetic markers to make me high enough risk, especially added to the dense tissue and history of multiple cysts (had two needle aspiration procedures that deflated five or six cysts each and probably could do another anytime as they just keep coming back) Iโ€™m pretty high risk. So hopefully the insurance company will pay for that as well.

And I will not pay additional to be on my hubsโ€™ insurance just because my employer offers insurance too. Iโ€™m already paying for insurance.

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*NEVER* pay the first bill.

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I love my single-payer socialized VA health care. I would be happy to see every American have it, too. It's best for all of us.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

That reminds me, I received a questionnaire from my insurer last month. I think they might be trying to decide whether or not to go after Subway from my broken arm.

๐Ÿฟ๐Ÿบ

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What insurance company do you have?? I want to avoid it at all costs.

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In high school both of my parents had health insurance through their employers that covered my brother and I. They would file claims with both so that they had to pay nothing out of pocket.

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Same here with my knee replacement. My dr. Said this happens all the time, they just donโ€™t want to pay and theyโ€™ll do anything to get out of it. Iโ€™m also waiting for the dr. to appeal. The insurance said there was no pre-auth, which is bs. They lie, make up dates, say their records donโ€™t indicate I called to confirm that it would be paid for 100%. This, apparently, is normal operating procedure. Disgusting.

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Itโ€™s ALWAYS Republicans. The cause of, but never the solution to, American problems.

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And whiney! But they never have a sensible solution, they just whine!

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Cast your memory back a mere 25 years. Democrat Bill Clinton left Office with a fiscal surplus. He rectified Bush1 economic mistakes. And made the economy sing. And since Republicans hate nothing more than good times, they gave us Bush2, who made things disastrously worse and left office with the Country facing a collapsed Real Estate market, Financial Markets in disarray, the American Auto industry on the verge of collapse, and the Country facing the 2nd Great Depression, along with 2 disastrous unpaid for 20-year fruitless Wars. So, In comes the Black Democrat. He literally saves the dayโ€ฆ in every respect. Heโ€™s a god-damn miracle worker, (he and Pelosi). They save our ass. They restore solvency to the financial markets, save the Auto Industry while โ€œkeeping America Safeโ€. And he manage to get the vast majority of us affordable Health Care for the 1st time in our history. But his greatest miracle was himself, he restored hope to us all when he sang โ€œAmazing Graceโ€ with his beautiful soul and compassionate voice at a time of National atrocity. But the benighted, racist, and ungrateful among us were not satisfied, so the Republicans gifted us with Donald John Trumpโ€ฆ a literal Adderall-snorting-dumpster fire posing as a human being. And well, you know the rest of the story!

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Apr 19ยทedited Apr 19

There was a discussion where a Repub condescendingly mansplained to us that the terrible economy under Bush 2.0 is AKSHUALLY Clintonโ€™s fault, because โ€œeveryone KNOWS economic policies take four years to go into effect, so Clinton AKSHUALLY sabotaged the economy for Bush The Second.โ€

I had to remind him it was the middle of Bushโ€™s SECOND term. He got very quiet after that.

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We had a strange and unusual situation during the Clinton terms. We had frequently had Republican Presidents and Democratic Congresses, or a Republican Senate and a Democratic House. When we had the GOP running Capitol Hill and a Democratic President, coinciding with the post-Cold War reductio. In military spending, we were able to mfg a short-term surplus. It didn't last, as the War on Terror pumped up military spending, again.

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If Jesus was a part of an omniscient ghod, why didn't he tell people about germ theory and diseases caused by microbes? We had to learn that stuff on our own.

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Which is just another reason not to look for rationality in religion.

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PREACH

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Enough with this prosperity Bible garbage! IIRC, Jesus was homeless. Did he think of that?

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Jesus said, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. Unless you really like those possessions and it's cool shit, like gold, cars and penthouses, then keep it."

Then Thomas said, "Master, what is a car that you speak of."

And Jesus replied, "Get away from me you broke-ass bitch."

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Ah, yes, but Jesus was homeless on purpose, because he could do anything but stayed homeless anyway.

Thus, homelessness is a choice, y'see.

Checkmate atheists!

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I think he snuck back up to heaven at nights, unless he was spending quality time with his favorite apostle(s).

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A savior in the streets...

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Josh was a slacker couch-surfer, in modern terms. He even taught his disciples to do the same. Paul, at least, would put his tent-making skills to use to help his hosts make some money. Ever hear of Josh doing any work to help out his hosts?

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But God won't see me if I'm not flying around on a private jet and driving a $50K Tahoe (seemingly the SUV of choice for pastors around my neck of the woods)!!

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TBF, $30k station wagons are gone. The only thing left to serve their purpose is a gas-guzling, high-riding SUV that costs more than your parents paid for the house you grew up in.

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Well, when you have 7 or 8 kids, that extra row of seats comes in handy!

BACK IN MY DAY, they didn't have 3rd row seats, we just got tossed around like luggage sitting in the "way back" with the dogs. ;)

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Apr 19ยทedited Apr 20

Mg Dad always bought 9-passenger wagons. The back seats folded down so one could carry cargo. In some models the middle seat also folded down. My Dad would drop me and my bicycle off at my summer job, then continue on to his workplace. I'd ride home after my shift. We would put 11 people in that 9 passenger. These days that wouldn't work, due to car seat regulations.

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Jesus was homeless? Which Jesus? As it seems there are thousands of Jesus beliefs. First there are different stories of Jesus in the four gospels all of which appear to have Pauline influence. Then there are stories from gospels not included in the Bible.

Eve ate what, an apple? Apples did not grow in that part of the world. Myths, all myths. You want to use your myth against his myth and show your reasoning is superior? OK, go on but the real root of the problem may be religion itself.

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FWIW, the bible doesn't say it was an apple. Just fruit.

Magical knowledge-filled fruit hanging from a magical tree inhabited by a talking snake.

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In some Middle East traditions it's a pomme granate, not an apple.

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That's how Persephone ended up spending 6 months a year in hell. Another woman who should have watched what she ate. :)

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Actually, she loves her husband Hades. I have read that Hades was one of the less capricious and more honorable gods.

Also, her mother, Demeter, probably enjoyed the time off not being responsible for keeping everything growing.

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That, at least makes sense.

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And the fruit depicted in the creationist literature is a large purple raspberry.

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It seems every single believer in Jesus and the Bible has a different vision of Jesus which is a reflection of their own hearts.

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A reflection of their own HEARTS would make some faint.

A reflection of their own minds, yes, but more precisely their own imaginations.

But then, hey, their Bible repeatedly teaches them that their thoughts, emotions, desires, motivations, etc. are all located in their hearts. And the Bible can't be wrong. So sometime in the last couple of thousand years, the mind migrated to the head. I'm sure sin must be responsible.

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Yes, I mean who takes dietary advice from a talking reptile, anyway? That, I hope is yet another translation error.

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Which bible? Which myth do you believe?

What do you KNOW?

I KNOW NOTHING.

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Carry on like that and youโ€™ll get really mythed off.

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Are you suggesting that with true Christian love, kindness and charity, I will be smitten? I keep forgetting that the Christianโ€™s god is not the god that JESUS believed in.

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The fruit in question wasn't an apple, it was a . . .

Here, I'll let Eve explain it herself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrFn6czYDk&pp=ygUmVGhlIFJlYWwgRm9iaWRkZW4gRnJ1aXQgLSBMdWNpZmVyIHM0ZTU%3D

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Obviously, it might be a translation error but

Mark 2:15

And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.

I think there is another reference but I cannot remember where.

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And yet there's also:

๐ฝ๐‘’๐‘ ๐‘ข๐‘  ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘๐‘™๐‘–๐‘’๐‘‘, โ€œ๐น๐‘œ๐‘ฅ๐‘’๐‘  โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘ฃ๐‘’ ๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘›๐‘  ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘–๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘๐‘  โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘ฃ๐‘’ ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘ , ๐‘๐‘ข๐‘ก ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘†๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘€๐‘Ž๐‘› โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘  ๐‘›๐‘œ ๐‘๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ฆ โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘  โ„Ž๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘‘.โ€

-- Matthew 8:20

And all that tells me is that the bible specializes in contradicting itself ... a LOT

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"all that tells me is that the bible specializes in contradicting itself ... a LOT"

You would find substantial support for that thesis in the 2006 book "The Bible Against Itself: Why the Bible Seems to Contradict Itself", by Randel McCraw Helms. It's out of print from the publisher but copies are available on line, notably for a reasonable price from Skeptics.com:

https://shop.skeptic.com/products/the-bible-against-itself-skeptic-exclusive-randel-helms

Whille America is awash in Christianity, which has caused me to spend most of my attention on the New Testament, Helms provides a lot of eye-openers about the Old Testament as well.

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A great deal of those contradictions have been available for a while through the website, "The Skeptic's Annotated Bible." It's author, Steve Wells, does a thorough job of analyzing and dismantling not just the Bible, but the Quran and the Book of Mormon as well. I heartily recommend it.

https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

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Considering the number of crazy authors, who all shared their delusions, it was inevitable.

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Or, maybe it is an error in believing myths are history.

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๐ŸŽฏ

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That's from the King James Version. Here's the NIV one:

"While Jesus was having dinner at Leviโ€™s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him."

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Jesus was homeless and relied on charity. What sin did he committed ?

Weigand is right but not the way he thinks. If we talk christian language, greed is one of the root causes of homelessness. He shows a perfect example of it.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

A mind-numbingly stupid statement, even by the very low standards of the religious right. Who gets to determine what constitutes sin? Him? Judging by the staggering number of Christian tribes in the world there doesn't seem to be any consensus on that question. In my experience the holier-than-thou crowd always has a religious justification for their cruelty.

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Oh, most of them agree any sex they're not having is sin.

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They are just jealous!

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They are the same ilk as those who justified slavery, so, yes.

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They worship a god who has to have your worship or he will burn you forever. In otherwords, their god is a big sadist.

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Sin is the cause; the sin of rich bastards hoarding all the money and not sharing or doing anything to make the world a better place.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

"to why we have people being mean to other people, it's sin."

I would say that the ultimate sin is being mean to other people, like blaming them for problems that they are not responsible for, including original sin, or not feeding and housing the homeless and the Hungry, as jesus himself advised.

So, it seems that in a very roundabout and perverted and twisted way, weigand is correct. Unfortunately, he doesn't recognize that it's his own REAL sins that are the problem, not the imaginary sins of other people.

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The only ones being mean to other people here are Republicans like him.

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Exactly my point.

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According to Weigand, I have committed all sorts of sin, yet I own a house. I imagine most homeowners in Madison have sinned in his eyes. So much for the sin = homelessness theory.

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"...๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ, ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด. ๐˜๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ง. ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ช๐˜ด."

"๐˜๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต--"

"๐˜•๐˜ฐ. ๐˜๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต. ๐˜ž๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ'๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ. ๐˜—๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต'๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ด."

"๐˜–๐˜ฉ, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด--"

"๐˜‰๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด..."

- ๐˜Š๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ ๐˜‘๐˜ถ๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ฎ, by Sir Terry Pratchett.

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Pratchett for the win again. TBF, I'm not sure if the issue is "thinking about people as things" since "thinking of others as lesser than" seems more accurate, but the point stands all the same.

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Sir Terry restating Kant?

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I submit that Sir Terry did a much better job than Kant. Kant had some blind spots he really didn't seem to recognize or deal with well.

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I don't doubt you!

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Bible study time:

Deuteronomy 15:11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, โ€˜You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.โ€™

Personal charity. Acts of kindness. Everything the church should be doing. Everything Christians should be doing when they see the poor among them.

Yes, there we go. God thinks of the poor and wants us to give to them and help them personally.

Well, yes, but thereโ€™s more context.

Deut. 15: 4 But there will be no poor among you; for the LORD will bless you in the land that the LORD your God is giving you for an inheritance to possessโ€” 5 if only you will strictly obey the voice of the LORD your God, being careful to do all this commandment that I command you today.

The poor will always be with us, but if we obeyed the commands of God, it says there would be no poor. So what are the commands of God according to the Law that folks like this so often like to use to bash others?

Deuteronomy 15: 1 - Debt Forgiveness every seven years:

Leviticus 19:9 - Food assistance/welfare programs โ€œโ€˜When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. 10 Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 14:22, 28 - a 10% tax on everyone every third year that would be set aside to feed the poor, migrants, and priests (of course... they always got a cut).

Lastly, Leviticus 25:23 - Land reform laws. Land would be returned to the people who originally owned it once a generation.

So there you go, Christians. Yes, you are commanded to be charitable, but only because of your sin in failing to pass and support corporate government-initiated and run efforts to alleviate poverty through direct assistance, land reform, and debt forgiveness.

So kindly remove the log from your own eye, confess and admit your greed and disdain for your fellow man, repent of it, and support government programs to address poverty as you are commanded to.

Thus endeth the lesson.

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It's irrelevant. It's nice for moderate Christians that some bible phrases align with their job description, but if it didn't, they'd still have to do their job. If the bible said "screw the poor," it would still be Weigand's job as an elected supervisor to spend tax funding on improving his community.

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That's Old Testament stuff. Old dispensation. Christians pick and choose from the OT. You need some NT quotes in favor of charity.

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What an entitled little shit, hiding his innate SADISM behind his โ€œbible.โ€ Thereโ€™s spirituality, and then there is the SADISM that politicians like this use to mask their corrupt, unconscionable politics. He is an installed puppet, paid by billionaires who want to see this democracy fail. An entitled, POS sadistโ€”people should be throwing rotten eggs.

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The billionaires don't quite seem to grasp that when the social order breaks down, money ceases to have meaning. Actual goods, materials, and trained labor are what matters.

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Billionaires think they will turn the surviving population into their servants. . . A set-up that looks Like Saudi Arabia, UAE or Qatar. If they kill off enough people, perhaps there will be enough clean air and water for them, although I doubt it. All that. BS about โ€œcolonizing Mars? Let them send MAGAts to Mars. Just donโ€™t get on a Musk Rocket with that pipe dream. . .

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Venus.

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Yes, I keep coming back to if they suck the middle-class dry as they are doing, who is going to buy their shit they make (or control? (Netflix, Tesla, etc.)

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It is, also, about men keeping dominance over women. Adam couldnโ€™t keep control over his first wife Lilith, who was his equal, even wanted to be on top during sex, got her banned and then was given his second wife, Eve, who must obey him.

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Sadism.

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Yes, always, was and still is.

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Which brings up another issue: if Adam already knew about sex before the creation of Eve, how is Eve the original sinner? The Christians have a simple solution, cut that story out of their bible so they can still blame women and promote their world view of the (their) god given view of male superiority. All this done before by King Josiah when he destroyed all the Asherah Poles, got rid of El and his fellow gods and installed YAHWEY as the only Jewish god.

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๐ŸŽฏ

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walking through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear no evil.

Being around bible thumpers is another story though where it is like facing a snake haired gargoyleโ€”mostly men thoughโ€”where every snake is spewing the venom of lies, hate and self righteousness.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

For there to be spirituality, there'd have to be spirits. As an atheist I don't buy those.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

Yeah, but elsewhere in this comment section you don't buy paying for infrastructure with taxes, so your opinion is lacking in my eyes.

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I'll buy spirits whenever I need to restock the bar.

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As is good, and 'proper'.

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Well, if those homeless didn't want to be homeless, they should just buy houses. It's just sloth on their part.

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โ€œIt is no concern of mine whether your family hasโ€ฆ what was it again?โ€

โ€œUhmโ€ฆ food?โ€

โ€œHA! You really should have thought of that before you became peasants!!โ€

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This is the same fucko that nearly had all World Naked Bike Rides in the state banned last year because he said that the law should protect him from having to be offended. A real piece of work this guy

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Maybe Iโ€™m misunderstanding, but if sin was the cause wouldnโ€™t a large chunk of pastors, ministers, congresspeople, Trump and his sycophants be homeless? ๐Ÿค”

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Nah, when they are concerned it's always someone else fault. They are innocent anus dei.

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 19

Hey, Weigand...

"Then he [Jesus] will turn to those on his left and say 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink. I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They will also answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for the least of these, you did not do for me."

-- Matthew 25:41-45

Uh oh, Jeffy. Seems you're on the waterslide to the hot place after your earthly existence is done. Your own savior condemns you.

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Weigand seems to be wearing clothes of mixed fabric. And I'll bet he hasn't given all his worldly goods away. Smite him!

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Apr 18ยทedited Apr 18

Iโ€™ll bet you he also eats shellfish and meat mixed with dairy!

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And pork roast......

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Werenโ€™t Adam and Eve homeless right from the beginning? They lived in a fucking garden!

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Squatters.

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