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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Big-time kudos and congrats to the founders of the Genders and Sexualities Alliance ... and an equally sized Bronx Cheer to the parents and faculty who were trying to stop them.

We're talking about kids who are discovering their sexuality here. In multiple cases, that discovery may be of something that doesn't fall inside ±3 Sigma, and in an environment that generally expect conformance, that can be damned hard. To be able to get together with others of one's own age and be able to discuss experiences and feelings in an accepting group would, to my mind, be hugely beneficial. Meanwhile, the grownups are worrying about ORGIES???

One has to ask: just who here is the more adult?

Joan the Dork's avatar

They're not really worried about orgies. They just want queer kids to die in the closet.

Straw's avatar

Queer kids don't match their narrow knowledge of people and sex and gender. Some people are unable to cope with new experiences. (Sorry I am late to the show).

Joe King's avatar

𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟, ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑟𝑒, 𝑜𝑟 “𝑎𝑔𝑒-𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠,” 𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑛-𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑟 𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑏𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑝 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑚𝑒𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑎𝑑𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑎𝑙𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑘𝑒𝑝𝑡 𝑚𝑜𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑏𝑖𝑔𝑔𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑔𝑛𝑖𝑧𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑎𝑛 𝐿𝐺𝐵𝑇𝑄 𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑏 𝑜𝑛 𝑐𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑢𝑠—𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑦 𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑜𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑙𝑦. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑜𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒.

When Christian Nazionalists buy goalposts, they get them factory equipped with wheels. Their actual goal here was to erase LGBTQ kids, and every time the kids proved unerasable, they tried something else to erase them.

Stephen Brady's avatar

Age appropriateness? My mother told me she knew I was gay by the age of 4... Did I really choose that early. I surely don't remember doing so. I grew up in 60s and 70s KY... nobody ever explained 'gayness' to me. There are differences in brain architecture between gays, trans, and straights visible on MRI and PET scans. Part of the conservative madness is their ability to deny that anything they disapprove of has any legitimacy or relevance.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

What you have here are parents who sure as hell seem to be afraid of their own children, of their maturity and their desire to understand exactly who it is that they are. As I suggested elsewhere, the kids are behaving better than those who are supposed to be their help and guidance.

Which is one hell of a note.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Wheels, wings, and rocket boosters. 𝘕𝘰𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 moves goalposts like Nat-Cs move goalposts!

Old Man Shadow's avatar

I'm too tired for cleverness or sarcasm this morning.

Fuck these anti-American asshole bigots.

Good job, kids.

NOGODZ20's avatar

What are these people so afraid of?

oraxx's avatar

Just about everything that's even a little bit different.

James Scammell's avatar

a little bit different … like CRIMINAL DONOLD J. TRUMP I hope.

He’s actually 'A LOT DIFFERENT FROM EVERY ANGLE AND ALTITUDE'.

These same people should be hugely afraid of him, and show it at every election !

… 🦘🦘🦘

Joe King's avatar

Difference. Lack of conformity to their narrow little boxes.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

They're also afraid of 𝗦𝗘𝗫. My own parents barely scratched the surface with the Baby Boomer typing here, and one would HOPE that the sexual revolution would have done at least a little bit to take the shame and the hesitance out of the topic.

Yet it's 70+ years later, and apparently, sex discussions are still a problem. It's like we've gone NOWHERE in all that time.

Joe King's avatar

It's not surprising that we have gone nowhere. After all, the fundies have been doing their damndest to pull us backwards.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Indeed, it's the fundies who are the poster kids for "SCARED OF SEX!!!"

Stephen Brady's avatar

They think being Gay is contagious...

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

My guess, Nogodz....

1) Change.

2) Actually being as powerless as Trump claims they are.

3) Losing the Civil War

Linda's avatar

Definitely themselves.

Straw's avatar

Learning something that don't fit their narrow understanding of the universe(s).

SeekingReason's avatar

Really happy to hear these results. The school board should be disbanded. Imagine trying to make middle school children feel bad about themselves!! The “age-appropriateness” takes the cake. Yet they allowed Fellowship of Christian Athletes. If anything, religious divisive groups like that should be banned. They should play sports for their churches if they want religious associated sports. On top of that, those beliefs are based on fairytales. Inappropriate!

Boreal's avatar

You just know this school board is full of 'god fearin christians' who 'love their neighbors*'.

*neighbors must be straight, white, christian nationalists.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Pretty obvious when Christian kids wanted to form a club and were told they couldn’t because of the rule changes, those very same goalpost-moving board members tried to get THEM in.

RegularJoe's avatar

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

Keep up the good fight!

Troublesh00ter's avatar

We chortle in our joy! 😁

Straw's avatar

I have no idea, but I live in Norway. I probably never learned or heard about it.

Stephen's avatar

There is a lot to be enraged about here, but what I find most appalling is that the faculty member who originally agreed to sponsor the club was doxxed and called a groomer. Kudos to the kids and the parents who stood up to this discrimination and faux outrage.

NOGODZ20's avatar

They want groomers? They need look no further than public school classrooms where prayer, 10 Commandments imagery, etc. are being pushed.

Stephen's avatar

If they fear that a teacher is a groomer for sponsoring a club for kids, but ignore what is happening in churches, youth sports and online on TikTok and Roblox then they are a special kind of stupid.

Colleen Corrigan-Watson's avatar

Congratulations to those students/tweens/young adults for standing strong and knowing their rights !!! I would love to read about the whole student body having enough courage to put their names on the club registry in support !! It was clearly the supposed adults “in the room” who lacked maturity.

PhillyT's avatar

Also congrats to the parents that stood by their kids.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

What. You. Said! 👍👍👍

Joe King's avatar

𝐼𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑢𝑛𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑚𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠, 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐺𝑆𝐴 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡, 𝑜𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑤 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠.

I would not be surprised if the kids have to restart the application process, and I would also bet that the district will try to go around any protections the kids have by dragging out the approval for at least the remainder of the school year. Possibly a summer reassignment of the faculty sponsor so the club has to start again after that.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

No matter what the topic of the day, I think we all know that tomorrow is likely to be ALL ABOUT "Kash's bestiality blaming" problem.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Just in case anyone thinks that foofaraw is kidding here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kash-patel-fbi-bestiality-senate-hearing-b3050628.html

Kash? SERIOUSLY??? I mean What The Actual FUCK???

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

"Now, point on this doll to where the bad sheep touched you..."

Troublesh00ter's avatar

[GROAN!!!] 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

I suppose I should have gone with,

"WELL, Mr. Grunktowski, can you show us on the doll where the bad lamb touched you with its anus?"

Joan the Dork's avatar

I think you mean "what did 𝘩𝘦 actually fück?"

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

At one point, the Republican senator from Louisiana asked Patel whether the change “disqualified the animal” from FBI service.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/15/kash-patel-fbi-hiring-policy-bestiality

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

Perhaps he thinks that since almost no one pronounces it properly, then maybe no one actually even knows what it means.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

At times I wonder if Kash knows which shoe goes on which foot! 🤪😝

NOGODZ20's avatar

I still can't get over his eyes. They're like something out of a Tex Avery cartoon. I keep expecting to hear them go AH-OOGA!

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

Friends, I joke.

But after the midterms, yet still too soon for new-majority Dems to have the needed time to act effectively, there might be hundreds of thousands (or millions) of deaths of innocent, mostly elderly Americans, and for no "cause" beyond Trump thinking they should be putting more money into Trump's pockets.

And Trump's only "cure" for elder poverty is death. (And not even the Soylent Green variety...)

I guess we'd best laugh now, if we can.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I haven't been able to laugh at Trump or any of his foolishness for a while now. Frankly, about the only circumstance that could make me laugh would be when he is found guilty of at least one if not multiple felonies for which he is guilty, and he is finally incarcerated.

I'll laugh then, but not before then.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

T,

I hope you won't be offended that the main reason I visit here is to scrounge something, ANYTHING, akin to a laugh from the unquestionable wisdom all of you aging nihilists.

Not a lot happens in this house for me to laugh at, since I can read most of my own thoughts in advance pretty well, (and generally spoil my own punchlines.)

I need surgery very badly for a multi-decade carpal tunnel issue. I've been examined and been determined to be an excellent candidate for surgery by two orthopedic surgeons, (for whatever that's worth...) Both are willing to operate, but not for free.

UnitedHealth doesn't want to pay. (Imagine that!) So they are making ridiculous demands that no medical professional would ever agree to. (They demand that my mid-20ish Nurse Practitioner (that I've only seen twice, but never for the hand) accepts full responsibility for authorizing the surgery...by an orthopedic surgeon that I am ALREADY an established patient of! All because they think I may be too old for them to recoup these surgical expenses on, so the purpose(sic) of all of this is simply evil and cruelty. None of it makes a trace of sense, but now ALL American decisions on health care (on any level) are made by billionaires mostly concerned that their NEXT yacht is nicer than all their previous ones, warehoused all over the world (for convenience.)

I just heard today that UnitedHealth is dropping one (red?) state entirely, and 109 separate (red?) counties. (That's over 1M customers left high and dry.) And since I don't wish to poke the bear, I'll just start saving up to pay out of pocket instead. I doubt it will be long until $10K-ish sounds minimal in the context of literal life or death. (I'd guess that I'm still safer than many millions of Americans, and I'd guess that the majority of the world would still trade even with me, sight unseen, just to sleep in a dry bed.)

If I take too long, the joke is on them, because a hospital stay for gangrene will be MUCH MORE costly for them! (And there have already been symptoms.)

Not a terribly funny joke, but I would surely enjoy some laughter about now.

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean for this to be so long, but I have no one to discuss the issue with, and it's a difficult and frustrating thing to tackle alone.

(No reply expected.)

NOGODZ20's avatar

You can take solace in the fact that despite all his power and wealth, he's miserable. He has no real friends (MAGA? He treats them with contempt), his gold digging trophy wife despises him and the only thing that gives him any pleasure at all is fast food, which is destroying his body and his health.

I wouldn't be caught dead being him.

Joan the Dork's avatar

I have a little giggle every time he chalks up another big L and pitches a fit about it... but I'm reserving the 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 belly laughter for when he finally kicks off and all of his gaudy büllshít meets the same pathetic end as Ozymandias' statue.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Typical of the bigots, being the prime examples for why a GSA club is necessary. It’s supposed to be about peer to peer bullying but it always devolves into adults bullying children. Just like any given comment or article describing why feminism is necessary, men in the comments sections prove the point in the most extreme way possible.

You know the school board agrees with the complaining conservative parents, they just have to be diplomatic about it. But I would not be surprised to hear the complaints were not benign and were actually threats of violence against the board members and the sponsor teacher. Possibly even the school itself.

Linda's avatar

There’s an awful lot of adults out there who still don’t want to understand that LGBTQ folks are born that way because if they do they might discover some familiar unresolved pain within themselves and whatever “role” they’ve been forced to play to feed the capitalist machine. Misery loves company? Those who choose to suffer, should suffer alone and stop bringing the children into it!

Linda's avatar

Maybe I’m mistaken, but I believe middle school might be the most appropriate age group for this alliance to exist in as that’s when kids are going through puberty, dealing with bullies, and figuring out just who the hell they are 🤷🏻

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Middle school and high school both. Lots of late bloomers out there. (I know - I was one!)

Linda's avatar

Awww. I had it the worst in middle school when I refused to make-out with some popular guy and he told everyone I was lesbian to get back at me. Back then, a lesbian was the absolute worst thing! 😂

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

I'm almost 70, and a recent widow at the church I sometimes attend did that same thing recently because I didn't express interest. (I'm not gay, just tired.)

(I think it's OK to be judgemental in church if you "pray" about it afterward.)

Troublesh00ter's avatar

As it happens, I think it's okay to be judgmental about the church ... FULL STOP! 😁

Linda's avatar

He was out to get me throughout high-school as well (although I cared less by then) and even called me years later while I was in college to apologize for his awful behavior. Wild he still believed I ever thought about him or cared 😅

Alverant's avatar

So according to this school board, learning how to kill animals just for existing is age appropriate, but discussing your feelings is not.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Bet they’re pro-life for fetuses, not adults facing the death penalty in 27 states.

Joan the Dork's avatar

$0.64 and some pocket lint says they don't support paid maternal leave, school lunch programs, or comprehensive vaccination either.

Richard S. Russell's avatar

I'm reminded of the now-adults who were students at schools that got shot up by crazy people who went on, while still quite young, to be national leaders in the movement to infuse some sanity into our gun laws. Perhaps some of these kids from King George will also turn into the same kind of leaders; they sure showed their mettle, dedication, and organizational skills in this one.