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Bindersfulohostbodies's avatar

Again, why was he spying footage of young women dancing at a private party? Him retiring is pretty fucking convenient for him to avoid a deeper dive into his behavior.

Elia's avatar

If possible, I say such a deep dive should happen even now that he's retired. Skeletons knocking at the closet door, maybe?

Bindersfulohostbodies's avatar

There were other parents who said he had done similar things to their kids.

Joan the Dork's avatar

If the guy would wreck the prospects of the school's star pupil over some dance moves at an off-campus party, he'd for ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ฎ๐˜ฏ sure do it to a lower-performing or less popular student whose mere existence offended him. She was just the ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ of his ladder of escalation, the one target he aimed for who turned out to be too visible for him to victimize unanswered. I guarantee there's a trail of misery and missed opportunities in his wake affecting dozens, if not hundreds of students, depending on how long he was employed for.

cdbunch's avatar

I wish I could say I believed you were wrong.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I bet he didn't expect this student and her mother wouldn't let it pass.

xenubarb's avatar

And those parents said nothing? That's how these twunts are allowed to continue doing this kind of shit.

Joan the Dork's avatar

I'm willing to bet a fair few parents dismissed their kids' concerns about him, until this came out. ๐˜Œ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ students whose disciplinary or academic records weren't as spotless as Kaylee's. If your kid already has a mile-long track record of minor infractions at their school, are you going to take their story immediately at face value when they tell you that their latest run-in with the Principal's office ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฏ'๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ณ ๐˜ง๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ต?

๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ are the kids he'll have gone after first. Petty tyrants always start out that way. They build confidence by choosing victims no one will believe, or who they know they can cow into silence. There's simply ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ he went from a cold start to bringing the Sword of Damocles down on the straight-A student body president.

Bindersfulohostbodies's avatar

I dunno if they reported it along the way or not. But there is clearly a pattern in his behavior, which means there have also been enablers, such as the Assistant Principal who was present for this last abuse of a student. They participated.

ericc's avatar

I get much more of a puritan/busybody vibe from this than a creeper vibe. He seems like the kind of guy who is always on the lookout for a chance to fingerwag.

Matri's avatar

They ALWAYS hide behind the โ€œpuritanโ€ facade.

Thatโ€™s how they always get away with it for so long.

In fact, thereโ€™s a worldwide organization dedicated to helping people like this perfect that facade. Itโ€™s called The Church.

Holytape's avatar

Look, if you are trying to stomp out sin, you got to go where sin is. He didn't want to look at hours and hours of teen girls dancing, but as a follower of Jesus, he had to. And he felt bad afterwards, which he kept hitting himself repeated, faster and faster.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Yeah, it's possible somebody just sent it to him, but I'd love a look at his hard drive. Well actually I probably wouldn't but it should be done by someone.

NOGODZ20's avatar

๐ŸŽต Do it in the name of Heaven, you can justify it in the end. ๐ŸŽต ๐Ÿ˜‰

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

๐ŸŽถOne tin soldier rides awayyyyy.๐ŸŽถ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBx-hHf4BE

I found this on Facebook a few weeks ago and it took me back to when my mom would sing this to me as a small child. She would get as much energy as the original singer would at parts.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I know it from ๐˜‰๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜‘๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฌ.

https://youtu.be/YH0eHzTKEMY

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066832/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I remember Billy Jack, but I was very young when I saw it, and probably shouldnโ€™t have at the time. So Iโ€™m not really cognizant of the whole plot and such.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Time to see it again with the kids this time.

<spoiler>There are a couple of scenes with female nakedness ๐Ÿ˜ณ</spoiler>

Anri's avatar

My one public solo singing bit was this song.

Thank you for the reminder.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Animation was done by John Wilson of Fine Arts Films. He worked for UPA (Mr. Magoo), Hanna-Barbera and Disney. He also did the animated titles for both the Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour and the movie Grease. He died about 10 years ago.

For all those interested in the karaoke version of this song, here's a chance to belt it out. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2sxJSEcjr4

Anri's avatar

"What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

cdbunch's avatar

Are you sure you don't mean fapping?

cdbunch's avatar

Real men don't use lube. At least not for that.

NOGODZ20's avatar

I find using Vaseline makes Mr. Happy more sensitive, intensifies the orgasm and makes the ejaculation both more powerful and longer lasting.

Or maybe I'm just a kink freak. :)

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I just read the article, and before I saw your comment, I had posted mine, which wonders the same thing?

Joe King's avatar

The lawsuit should proceed, and it should definitely specifically name fฬถuฬถcฬถkฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถ ฬถgฬถaฬถrฬถbฬถaฬถgฬถeฬถ ฬถhฬถuฬถmฬถaฬถnฬถ former principal St Pierre.

beads's avatar

I agree, amount of damages to at least equal that of the lost scholarship opportunity.

RegularJoe's avatar

The damages need to be great enough that the entire community suffers serious financial harm. That's how they'll learn to stop electing fรผckwรฏts.

beads's avatar

My head fantasy has the scholarship denied because the organization has to stand by it's own rules, but going on record to say she would have received it. Sue the principal, district and board for mental trauma, those above stpierre being responsible for preventing the offense. Take stpierre to civil court for loss of scholarship where Timonet gets a ruling that stpierre must pay for higher education unless she drops below a reasonable gpa, she lives off him all the way through to her PhD, hopefully in a field that makes him steaming mad, and before his death she receives a Nobel prize in that field. Hey, if you're going to dream, dream big!

cdbunch's avatar

Your optimism is adorable.

RegularJoe's avatar

Right? ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

Sko Hayes's avatar

Sadly, this principal is not an elected official, but I would definitely take a look at the local school board.

Angela LaNasa's avatar

Dude, I am from this community and am an alumni of this high school. I am as outraged as everyone else commenting on this post, and I have spoken up about it locally before it hit the national news. I donโ€™t know what kind of school system they have where you live, but high school principals are NOT elected officials. And yes, this state definitely has a lot of issues (I am a liberal in a deep red state and there is some kind of bullshit that raises my blood pressure every day), but THIS community, on THIS particular issue, rose to the occasion and stood up for this poor girl. Yes, the principal is a fuckwit, as you say, but donโ€™t you dare wish harm on an entire community who generated this backlash and basically forced him out. You should be ashamed of yourself.

RegularJoe's avatar

The school board is elected, and they allow such things to happen.

I live in the Linn-Mar school district, the one Mike Pence visited earlier in the year to attack our kids then shouted out by name at the last Trumpublican debate. Believe me, I take this shit seriously.

The community should suffer hard enough to learn their lesson. If they've already learned it, and demonstrate it by firing the fรผckwรฏt for cause with zero benefits and zero severance, cool. Purge the superintendent and board next. I'm not at all ashamed, nor do I believe you should be for sticking up for your district.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I should imagine there was considerable mental distress on the part of Ms. Timonet and her parents about this, and all of them are due some proper monetary recompense!

E.A. Blair's avatar

St. Pierre should be required to match the scholarship out of his own pocket.

Joan the Dork's avatar

My thoughts exactly. He did the damage; he should cover the bill.

Matri's avatar

In โ€œcancel culture speakโ€: He cancelled her future, they enabled his cancelling, they should all have their livelihoods cancelled.

Brian's avatar

My guess is that the board told the principal to jump or be pushed. He's potentially ruined the future scholastics progress of his school's golden child a model straight-A student who liky had the pick of a number of good universities if scholarship came through.

That's an awful image for the school to live down.

Matri's avatar

In that case the board needs to go as well. He ruined her future and all they can think of is protecting themselves.

cdbunch's avatar

There are other scholarships, so hopefully, despite his best efforts, he didn't ruin her future.

XJC's avatar

More grist for the Fox News mill. St. Pierre is a victim of goddam woke culture and atheists.

Matri's avatar

And cancel culture. Donโ€™t forget, Good Christians getting punished for crimes is the same as being cancelled.

XJC's avatar

Pressured to resign...effectively, cancelled. I'm sure that will be the story that's spun in the right wing media.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I wondered how he thought the subject of religion was broached by Kaylee and him. Itโ€™s tough to insinuate that religion was her idea when you walked into the meeting with a stack of Bible verses copied for her. Donโ€™t pretend she thought yโ€™all should discuss Jesus.

He should be held responsible for the scholarship though. Thatโ€™s huge and quite cruel of him. (Though she should have applied anyway to see if she could have gotten it without his recommendation or if they would have noticed the situation. I would have continued in the student council role as well. What can he really do?)

At any rate, I agree with her and her mother, too little too late. It is the principalโ€™s job to help the students succeed, not interfere in their success. She was a model student, and he snatched away her accomplishments over his own prudishness. And the higher standards ought to allow for some dancing at a party.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I am curious to know if he went to high school and where, and above all if there was balls and pictures taken.

RegularJoe's avatar

Good. Bye.

Also, still sue the Jesus out of him personally as well as the district for damages. Severe financial pain is the only way the yokels who enable these stains on public education will learn.

Matri's avatar

I wouldnโ€™t have let him resign, he needs to be fired. That mark on his record needs to serve as a warning to everyone.

RegularJoe's avatar

Fired....from a canon, into a brick wall.

ericc's avatar

That stinks about the scholarship. I would sue for the scholarship amount (plus legal fees.) And use the story in College entrance essays, particularly as it relates to good student leadership means standing up for religious and expressive freedom.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Words are easy (and his are conspicuously lacking any admission that Kaylee never did anything wrong). If he ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ wanted to make amends, he'd cover the scholarship he stole from her out of his own pocket... but I think we all know that ain't gonna happen without a whole lotta lawyerin'.

cdbunch's avatar

I like the bit where he 'consulted with district staff'. I translate as got a new asshole ripped by the district's lawyers.

cdbunch's avatar

My question is did FFRF send the letter or were they still composing it.

cdbunch's avatar

Nope. Only that expectation 'weren't clear'. She hadn't been told she couldn't dance, but he thinks she totally should have been.

ericc's avatar

Yeah you definitely get a "I still think what she did was immoral" vibe from that apology.

But that's why there's the old joke; the reason baptists object to sex out of wedlock is because it might lead to dancing.

xenubarb's avatar

Keep an eye out for this christian asshat running for school board or other positions.

If he wanted to impose his religious bullshit on students, he should've worked for a private religious school, as he has no business intruding his oppressive beliefs on public school students.

The part where he LIED about the student bringing up religion is typical of these people when they're caught misbehaving for their gawd.

xenubarb's avatar

Nobody expects the Principal Inquisition...

Straw's avatar

Is her further education at risk because he waited until after October 3rd to say sorry etc.? US is so strange.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Higher education- much like healthcare, clean water, and ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ด๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ- is regarded as a luxury commodity in this shithole country.

Scholarships are in very high demand, because they mean the difference between an education which you can immediately put to gainful use, and one which you'll spend the next twenty years (if you're lucky) in crippling debt for. If someone misses the deadline, there's another candidate on a waiting list right behind them to claim the ticket. So... yeah, one malevolent shitstain of a theocrat ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ sabotage a student with a pristine academic record just because he didn't like that she dared to have a bit of harmless fun on her own time.

No, we don't think that's reasonable either... but the Overton Window has been shifted so far right in the US that anyone pitching universal public access to higher education- or universal healthcare, or a universal basic income- might as well be speaking Martian. It's going to take several more generations (at least!) to undo the damage done by Republicans, their looter-class megadonors, and the never-to-be-sufficiently-cursed "Moral Majority"- let alone to make any progress towards a healthier society.

cdbunch's avatar

Don't forget that SCOTUS struck down the latest attempt to relieve some of that crippling student debt.

ericc's avatar

Bailouts are only for campaign contributors.

jomicur's avatar

โ˜‘๏ธ โ˜‘๏ธ โ˜‘๏ธ โ˜‘๏ธ โ˜‘๏ธ

Joan the Dork's avatar

Socialism for corporations and billionaires- serfdom for the masses.

Straw's avatar

Since I refuse to put a heart on your comment, I put an other emoyo here: ๐Ÿ˜ฉ.

cdbunch's avatar

Depends on the value of the scholarship, whether those in charge of the scholarship know of and take this hateful act by the principal into account and accept the application late, and what other scholarships she gets.

The state school I went to back in the Dark Ages now estimates 4 years at just under $100k and I question whether any Bachelor's degree can realistically be completed in 4 years.

NOGODZ20's avatar

ELMER FUDD (who slams door and wipes his hands): "Good widdance to bad wubbish!"

Principal of the Year in Louisiana? Given the fact that bottom-ranked Louisiana ranks 46th in education, that's akin to being the finest prima ballerina in Idaho.

Matri's avatar

The least-rusted scrap in the junkyard?

Joan the Dork's avatar

OT- Serial fraudster and alleged Congressman George Santos (if that is his real name) adds identity theft and credit card fraud to his list of federal felony charges: https://apnews.com/article/george-santos-credit-card-fraud-f723e69a777b02a2e6b87595f45c21ce

In a new development that will surprise nobody except those living under rocks, the only liar in the same league as Cheetolini allegedly stole his own donors' credit card information to run up huge charges, which by ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ coincidence happened to end up in his private accounts. Oh, and the charges exceeded the legal limits on campaign contributions, so he stuck his own relatives' names on the transactions and made ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ unwitting accomplices. Because, y'know, there just is no depth this worm won't burrow to.

larry parker's avatar

SNL has a lot of catching up to do.

Mr.E's avatar

How in the fuck has "George Santos" not been kicked out of congress yet? Even just 10 years ago this would be a no brainier.

NOGODZ20's avatar

He has an R by his name.

My my, the shenanigans the GQP are so very tolerant of when it's their own. Think if he were a Democrat that he'd have survived?

cdbunch's avatar

A democrat can't simply say "You have blood on your hands" much less commit actual crimes. IOKIYAR

Len Koz's avatar

The GQP is silent on Senator Bob Menendez, aka Another Crook From Jersey.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Strange, as he's a Dem. The Democrats are calling for his resignation. Where is the accountability for the Rethuglikkkans on one of theirs?

NOGODZ20's avatar

Does she ever get to thinking she's on the wrong team and maybe considering switching party affiliation? After all, if RFK Jr. can switch from Democrat to Independent in his run for POTUS...

(Though I'm pretty sure he just shot himself in the foot with THAT boneheaded move)

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

With such a slim majority, they are unwilling to lose anyone.

cdbunch's avatar

It wouldn't matter if they had 3/4 majority, they still wouldn't kick out a republican for anything short of dead boy in his bed, And I'm not positive they would then.

Matri's avatar

If there's no police investigation, then he's just a crisis actor planted by the Gazpacho Police working for the Deep State via the Jewish Space Lasers

cdbunch's avatar

Deus ex machina. Any truth they don't like is the Deep State.

XJC's avatar

The good, conservative people of Queens and Nassau County--the same faithful MAGAts-- only care that Santos has an "R" next to his name. If they were stupid/delusional enough to vote for Trump, Santos was a shoe-in.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Wait until they find out that the "R" is actually just a "P" that he drew an extra line on to fool the party bosses into letting him sฬดcฬดaฬดmฬด ฬดtฬดhฬดeฬดiฬดrฬด ฬดdฬดoฬดnฬดoฬดrฬดs ๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฆ.

XJC's avatar

P for pathetic? Pansy? Piece-o'-shit?

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

They were talking about balls down thread. Whatever you say about the man, Santos' must be huge.

Whitney's avatar

This time, on ๐‘จ๐’” ๐‘ป๐’‰๐’† ๐‘บ๐’•๐’๐’Ž๐’‚๐’„๐’‰ ๐‘ช๐’‰๐’–๐’“๐’๐’”...

I'm really starting to wonder what, exactly, is really going on here. On the one hand, it's possible (if seeming unlikely) that this principal is trying to make up for an honest mistake. On the other, we're seeing quite a bit of evidence that suggests he's a liar. On the only tangentially related hand, there's a very good reason I'd be unwilling to return to high school for any amount of money. Yeesh.

I'm inclined to believe Miss Timonet for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that this guy really doesn't seem to be at all sorry for being entirely too invasive into a teenage girl's non-educational activities. It certainly appears that Mr. Saint Pierre came down on her like a metric ton of bricks rather than speaking to her like the near-adult she is. It's clear that Miss Timonet's family is supporting her (and good on them for doing so!) and would likely have wanted to be present for any sort of meeting she had with the principal of a school that involved such severe consequences, so I'm wondering why Mr. Saint Pierre didn't at least call them beforehand. To me, that reeks of someone with a little bit of authority trying to flex their power by crippling their opposition.

At this point, I'd say even if he is retiring, an investigation into Mr. Saint Pierre would be justified. Too many unanswered questions here on how he was using his authority and why.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

My guess as to why he chose to step down and not fight a lawsuit (or file one of his own over religious liberty) is because the Timonets are Catholic. I feel like, while the SCOTUS might be willing to find for religious dominance, theyโ€™re still a majority Catholic and arenโ€™t ready yet to allow the evangelicals the official crown over the country. He wonโ€™t win a fight against a Catholic.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Not just that the family is Catholic- stand that girl up for a national media tour and he'd be the devil incarnate inside a week (not that he wouldn't deserve it). The district's lawyer, if they had even a hair more sense than a cicada, would've taken one look at whose future St. Pierre decided to ruin, had instant waking nightmares of a press feeding frenzy, and advised the rest of the school and district administration to polish up their head-serving platter.

cdbunch's avatar

I'm hoping this got enough publicity that in 3 years (or 10) when you Google his name this is the first thing prospective employers see.