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"𝐔𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐥 𝐚 𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐰𝐚𝐥𝐤𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐚 𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐥 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐬 𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐤𝐢𝐝𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐩𝐲 𝐨𝐟 '𝐓𝐨 𝐊𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐀 𝐌𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐛𝐢𝐫𝐝', 𝐈 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮'𝐫𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐭"

- Wanda Sykes

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I just stole that sorry.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Tickets for Wanda Sykes at the Emerald Queen Casino in Tacoma in 2024 just went on sale.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Which are about as much use to me as teats on a bull. Smiling emoji.

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Marygrace's avatar

Amen!

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Keith E. Cooper's avatar

Wanda is wonderful!

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Lynn James's avatar

Yay, Wanda!

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Whitney's avatar

If the world made sense, men would be the ones riding sidesaddle.

Texas has no business claiming to protect women in any event, not after implementing some of the nation's most draconian laws regarding pregnancy termination. I actually overheard a woman who had experienced difficulties with pregnancy in past talking about her OB/GYN's recommendations on future attempts. The doctor told her not to get pregnant in Texas. 𝑵𝒐 𝒅𝒐𝒄𝒕𝒐𝒓 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒈𝒊𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒇 𝒎𝒆𝒅𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒂𝒅𝒗𝒊𝒄𝒆. The very idea that women need to be protected from men wearing their clothing when that sort of recommendation is being made by physicians in the same place just highlights the incongruity here.

As a woman, there are plenty of things I do worry about. Men raiding my closet for a nice dress isn't even on the potential list; I neither need nor want protection from that. If you're not going to provide me with actual protection, stay out of my life and stop using me as an excuse because I'm not buying it.

And well done to Mr. Seidel.

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cdbunch's avatar

Medical advice should never be dependent on where you live.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Your human rights should not be dependent on where you live. But here we are.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“If you’re looking for people who want to harm women, you won’t find them at a drag show; you’ll find them in the state legislature.”

You’ll also find them at church as well, running the church and sitting in the pews.

When being called a woman is the very worst thing you can call a man, or wearing women’s clothing is considered the very worst thing a man can do and will lose him his so called man card, and like we learned this weekend, his life, dressing in drag is a radical act of respect for women. It is not “derisive, divisive and demoralizing misogyny”. The misogyny comes in all aspects of the folks standing out against drag, not from the men celebrating women.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

"When being called a woman is the very worst thing you can call a man . . ."

Or in a culture where the worst way to insult a man is to treat him like a woman. Hence Sodom and Gomorrah's 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺.

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Lynn James's avatar

"You’ll also find them at church as well, running the church and sitting in the pews."

Yep, when I was growing up in our church, men all looked the same. Short, side-parted hair or comb-overs, and the same blue or gray suits week after week. That was their uniform, and it looked a bit intimidating, even, when the deacons walked in with the minister and lined up across the front of the sanctuary for the opening prayer.

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Anri's avatar

If drag is inherently harmful, it's presumably usable as a weapon, and therefore protected by the 2nd Amendment.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

I can see the charges now: Misanthropic Use of Glitter, Causing the Good Christian Menfolk to Question their Sexuality, Possession of Stilettos with Intent to Dazzle, and Aggravated Fabulousness in the First Degree. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳!

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Anri's avatar

"Excuse me, ma'am, do you have a license to carry concealed?"

"I dunno, officer, let me check..." (reaches for skirt closure)

"Ah, nope, all good, ma'am, you have yourself a nice day now!"

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Holytape's avatar

If drag isn't a threat, then how do you explain my boner? Checkmate, Atheist!!

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cdbunch's avatar

The little blue pill?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Wonder what Wendler made of "Tootsie" and "Mrs. Doubtfire"? Did he think they were documentaries?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Was Wendler traumatized by Bugs Bunny as a child? Did he grow faint at the sight of Milton Berle?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

He donned frocks in 50 cartoons. The writers, animators and voice talent had no trouble with it at all.

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cdbunch's avatar

The horse in Matri's image is another story.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

As a kid, this was my first exposure to opera.

Bugs Bunny. Groomer. :)

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Lynn James's avatar

Somehow, I think it's just a matter of time until De Satan gets around to outlawing Bugs and similar cartoons as porn.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

He can't even handle an oversized, pants-wearing rodent.

That Oscar-winning rabbit is far more popular than DeNasty is. And Bugs isn't even real.

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oraxx's avatar

The religious right will never have all the control over people they want. Nothing is ever enough for them. If not drag queens to vilify, it would be someone else. They use their religion as a cudgel to beat people into submission. They can't win from their pulpits, so they are fighting a rear-guard action through government with an authoritarian top-down approach to the culture wars they lost a long time ago.

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Lynn James's avatar

They may have lost the culture wars, but they are still a force to be reckoned with. (See: Florida and Texas for starters).

With all the RWNJ judges planted by Trump, it's going to take a herculean effort to rip out the countless tendrils of fascism that have crept into everyday life, and probably generations of education to beat back the MAGAt attitudes hatred and vitriol that has overwhelmed civil discourse. Barring some miracle, those folks will not give up their permission slips to be the total assholes they always wanted to be.

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painedumonde's avatar

For Ceiling Cat's sake, America's Dad, Tom Hanks, had his first break in drag.

https://youtu.be/3UI_JwF3cnA?si=Z0p8gyyZbYSqm9e3

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cdbunch's avatar

Loved that show.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

The original movie "The adventures of Priscilla Queen of the desert" date back from 1994, the poster is from the musical show in 2018 or 19. I wasn't offended then, I am still isn't https://www.billetreduc.com/215428/evt.htm

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cdbunch's avatar

"And no more fucking ABBA"

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

What about a Queen and ugly bunny sleepers ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Mc-NYPHaQ

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Mr.E's avatar

But according to the far right Christian Conservatives you should be emotionally scarred for life.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I am. I had an appendectomy at 16 😁

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Len Koz's avatar

I have you beat. I had an appendectomy at 10.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Do you really want to play this game ? I was barely born I was shoved in an incubator 😁

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Len Koz's avatar

I was 2 months premature myself. 😋

I had to spend the first month of my life in the hospital until I weighed enough to go home.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Premature 3 weeks and 6 weeks in the incubator 😉

They finally let my parents pick me up even then I was about 200g shy of the mandatory 3kg minimum.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

"Madison and Thomas Jefferson, prisoners of the culture of their time as are we"

Try suggesting that when they mention the Second Amendment though.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

They were also slave owners. Jefferson even knew one of his slaves biblically.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Notice how Wendler overlooked that little detail?

I mean, I can understand why. He might have to field tough questions about his own religion participating in and profiting from the institution of slavery themselves.

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GrandmascienCe's avatar

On my bucket list:

Party with Lucien Greaves (of the Satanic Temple) and Andrew Seidel (not necessarily at the same time, but that would work!).

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

You naughty nana!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Six anti-religious men in drag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKWjuEn5FX8

The audience seemed to appreciate it. :)

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Hey, Wendler...

Gonna bring Madison and Jefferson into it to try and justify your Christian-fueled bigotry? James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were Deists, not Christians. To them, 'Creator' meant something very different than it does to you and your brethren.

By the way, Jefferson only wrote the word 'creator' once in his first draft of the Declaration of Independence. And he did so in lowercase. The other three mentions of that word plus its capitalization were added later of Jefferson's strenuous objections. As for Madison? The architect of the US Constitution makes no mention of the word 'creator.' Nor is there a single mention of your religion and its deities. It does mention that there should be no promotion of religion nor a religious test for public office. And that 'Year of Our Lord' at the end of the Constitution is simply an outmoded dating system. Both Jefferson and Madison went to great lengths to keep religion and governance separate.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Isn't lace for wimmenfolk ? Where is Thomas Jefferson's dignity on this portrait ?

https://images.app.goo.gl/mwMUbsYhaLMz9XsK7

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

A lot of the founding fathers also wore wigs. 😱

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cdbunch's avatar

So did William Shatner. And I think that dead rodent on Donnie's head is supposed to be a wig.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Ted Danson. IIRC Ivanka once said it is a double comb over.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

A lot of men had alopecia areata due to chronic syphilis.

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Matri's avatar

Not to mention "In God We Trust" was vandalized into the Constitution in the 1950s.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Fortunately, not quite the Constitution- they'd have needed an Amendment to pull 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 shit- but it did, sadly, supplant the far superior 𝘌 𝘗𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘣𝘶𝘴 𝘜𝘯𝘶𝘮 as the national motto.

*𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘴*

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Don't forget the Jefferson Bible- which he personally compiled, all references to divinity removed. Which 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 likely would've gotten him burned at the stake, if he'd done it a few centuries earlier on the other side of the Pond.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

“derisive, divisive and demoralizing misogyny, no matter the stated intent.” (More on that later.)"

This is misogyny. Don't talk for me as if I am brainless. Would you banish clowns next bevause them too caricature humans ? You are so proud of your bigotry and willfull ignorance you don't even want to recognize the difference between blackfaces and Drag Queens, there is Drag Kings (curious how they are often "forgotten"), I never heard of whitefaces. No reciprocity = abuse, reciprocity = satire which cultures/society need*.

* I read once an article in Awal (the anthropology magazine DM worked for) about Amazighs (Morocco) or Kabyles (Algeria) women' songs. They were overlooked for a long time but when they were studied 2 majors themes appeared : love songs and satire.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘬𝘴, whiteface and drag kings.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381707/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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cdbunch's avatar

I've never seen that movie. It looked incredibly stupid.

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Lynn James's avatar

Wayans movies are either hit or miss, it seems.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Siskel & Ebert hate hate hated this movie. I still remember the review where they took it apart. Brutal.

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larry parker's avatar

Yes, banish clowns.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Remember when there was a rash of clowns terrorizing towns back in 2016? Then the worst clown ever ran the country.

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cdbunch's avatar

He'd look better with the makeup.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Even 𝘮𝘪𝘮𝘦 facepaint would look better than that tacky dollar store clearance rack spray-tan.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Only if spiders, stepladders and syringes are banished too.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Yes, banish clowns."

Especially after the Clown Wars. Clown on clown violence...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9NPW3mi8o

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

In one of Tim Dorsey's Serge Storms novels he foments a Clown's vs Mimes war.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I don't know quite how "fabulous" Seidel was (though clearly, he was working it!), but Wendler? Bud, you need to get a massage or something, maybe loosen up just a fraction. You want to get so exercised about drag queens when mass shootings are nearly a daily occurrence.

It's about PRIORITIES, Wendler ... and you need to get yours straight.

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