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Boreal's avatar

But prayer is proven to work, just ask the cancer victims in a pediatric cancer ward.

cdbunch's avatar

The existence of St. Jude CRH is sufficient proof there is no benevolent, interventionist god. (Danny Thomas' beliefs notwithstanding)

A god who lets children die of cancer but finds J.Q. Christian a parking space is a monster.

Boreal's avatar

I regularly stop to ask the forced birthers at the local PP why they are still there, day after day, week after week and year after year, if prayer works. They all carry signs that say "Pray to End Abortion."

Joan the Dork's avatar

I know I just posted this the other day, but I feel like it's obligatory here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8HT6Ux8FM

Kathi Wise's avatar

Never too much of Tim Minchin.

oraxx's avatar

Times are changing, and Sanders is going to alienate at least as many as like what he's doing. The University of Colorado is a public university, and religion should have no place in the athletic department.

NOGODZ20's avatar

JESUS: "Did I NOT instruct those who claim to be my followers to AVOID public prayer? What part of that did they fail to comprehend?"

Joan the Dork's avatar

To be fair, they didn't get the "love thy neighbor" or "give all your wealth to the poor" bits, either. Or any of the other bits that might've even slightly inconvenienced them. Or any of the bits that required anything but self-aggrandizement and petty cruelty.

Or any of the bits that had words in them.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Like what Jesus said about not judging others. Christians avoid THAT one like the plague.

oraxx's avatar

The King James version of the Constitution says it's okay. /s

Joan the Dork's avatar

"If we Jesus hard enough, we're sure to win!"

"But... um... shouldn't we be... y'know... practicing the game instead?"

"No! We don't need skill and strategy, we need 𝘑𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘴!"

"But coach, the other team prays too. Won't we just cancel each other out, and the game will be decided by skill and strategy anyway?"

"That's why we need to Jesus 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳! Haven't you been listening?!"

Len Koz's avatar

Jesus is a hockey fan.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Curling irons already existed 2000 years ago ?

NOGODZ20's avatar

Sure. Plenty of stones around that they weren't using on people.

NOGODZ20's avatar

The only real saving he does is between the pipes.

cdbunch's avatar

What's in those pipes that make him think he can convince the rich to give up their money and possessions and give them to the poor?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

micro penice should look in a mirror.

I wish the twins the best, they have the right parents, those who truly wanted them.

cdbunch's avatar

A child of a gay or lesbian couple never has to wonder if ze was wanted or an accident. Zir parents went through a thousand hoops to have ze.

Joan the Dork's avatar

𝐻𝑦𝑝𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑓𝑢𝑐𝑘𝑤𝑎𝑑𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡?

https://apnews.com/article/pence-trump-january-6-capitol-riot-carlson-1e38cb44d55737031ca528b4f33aa1fb

Go figure- the guy who just complained about his former boss putting his family in danger has no problem with attacking another man's family for cheap giggles.

cdbunch's avatar

Mike Pence is an asshole. We're surprised?

XJC's avatar

Mike Pence is a Christian, a Republican, and an Asshole--and not necessarily in that order.

XJC's avatar

Think of it more as tautology...

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Assholes are useful. micro penice I am not sure.

NOGODZ20's avatar

This is the guy who almost got strung up by a mob of his then-President's rabid devotees. Rightwing xtians just like himself.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It seems his memory is shorter than any other animal with shorter memory on Earth.

NOGODZ20's avatar

According to National Geographic, chimps have been known to retain a short-term memory for only about 20 seconds.

This is short-term memory, but these are chimpanzees. Our closest ancestors.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

My last big bout of insomnia, my short term memory was worse than that. I couldn't read three sentences before forgetting what it was about and having to start all over.

By the way, chimps have small penises, comparing them to micro penice is inappropriate.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

The porn version of "Gorillas in the mist" 😝

NOGODZ20's avatar

Ummmm...she heard it? ;)

XJC's avatar

6,000 years is an awfully long time...

NOGODZ20's avatar

India is 10,000 years old. :)

XJC's avatar

Where is India mentioned in the Bible? Maybe you mean Indiana?

Richard S. Russell's avatar

So Boulder is about 60% "nones", eh? I'll bet that next week the Gazette runs an editorial blaming that fact for the Buffaloes' sorry record on the field.

NOGODZ20's avatar

How would they explain the very Christian Russell Wilson and the craptacular season he had with the Broncos? Not to mention everything Denver sacrificed to sign him up.

nmgirl's avatar

But Colorado Springs is 99% Talibangelicals.

NoOne of Consequence's avatar

I hope the FFRF write a rebuttal and submit it to the Gazette, that kind of misinformation is part of why the US is in the state we are.

Joan the Dork's avatar

OT- Florida's top fascist does fascist things, story at 11: https://apnews.com/article/sunshine-week-ron-desantis-florida-records-a0061801fffbd075af3de46c73e9e4db

Nothing says "I have nothing to hide!" like trying to hide everything you do, amirite?

NOGODZ20's avatar

Why do Rethuglikkkans insist on operating in the shadows? Are they so inept at governance that they feel it's the only way? Do they not realize that it simply makes them look like the criminals they are?

cdbunch's avatar

The editorial board didn't actually read the FFRF's letter. They heard the FFRF had sent a letter and stopped listening and started screaming "Christian Persecution"

jomicur's avatar

Your typical American newspaper is written on a 4th grade level, or maybe a bit lower. Andrew Seidel writes at a level vastly higher than that. If they even tried to read the letter they probably threw up their hands and cried "Oooh, all them big, fancy, two-dollar words! Mah brain hurts!"

NOGODZ20's avatar

FWIW, the Seattle Times has been awarded 11 Pulitzers since 1950 and been finalists for that prize 14 other times since 1982.

jomicur's avatar

FWIW? I'd say not much. Journalism awards used to have some meaning, back in the day when actual journalism was a respected institution in this country. Today? Not so much. Even the vaunted New York Times is written on a seventh grade level (or frequently even lower) today. Our local CBS affiliate has won a good number of Emmys, Edward R. Murrow Awards, etc., for its news operation. Yesterday one of their lead stories was "A young fifty year old woman was hurt in an accident yesterday..." Journalism awards are no better an indicator of excellence than the Oscars.

NOGODZ20's avatar

That'll happen when you have a big hole in your hand.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Signing off for a bit. Taking wife to get colonoscopy. See you this arvo.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I get my wife flowers, but whatever works.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I told DM. She had a bad day and thank you.

DM : *snort*

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Glad I could help.

I actually just remembered, my wife has one scheduled coming up soon and I need to pick her up afterward. I had mine a couple years ago and she did the same for me. The funny thing is the place is a pretty easy walk for us, but they require someone to drive you.

cdbunch's avatar

Well, even walking when coming out of anesthesia could be a little dangerous.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Yes, better safe than sorry. I actually suggested biking.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I wonderhow many shades of white are needed to have a diverse The Gazette’s editorial board 🤔

cdbunch's avatar

$5 million and he calls himself a disciple of Christ? I might believe him if he lived in 3bd/2bath driving a new Chevy and using the rest to build low/no-income housing.

NOGODZ20's avatar

"The Lord helps those who help themselves."

*found nowhere in the bible*

cdbunch's avatar

I'm not saying he has to make *himself* poor, but there's only so much a person *needs* and a reasonable percentage over that for what ze wants should be sufficient to be humble.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Their messiah walked around everywhere in rags and sandals during his ministry. For some reason, this just doesn't cut it for those who say they are his followers.

cdbunch's avatar

He wanted to experience what life was like for humans, which is why I don't buy he died a virgin. Whether it was Mary M. or John (or both) I believe he got down with someone.

NOGODZ20's avatar

I still think that a man who surrounded himself with 12 guys was getting himself a little somethin' somethin.'

(John the Beloved, anyone?)

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Judas and he ditched him like a pair of old sandal.

NOGODZ20's avatar

There's a song called "Stand Up for Judas" that rightfully depicts Judas as the guy who wanted to help others and be free of tyranny while Jesus wanted the status quo while offering pie in the sky.

Great song by Dick Gaughan.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

"I believe he got down with someone."

How do you think he got the nickname "Lamb of god?"

NOGODZ20's avatar

Whenever a Christian tells me that Jesus wanted to experience what life was like for humans, I always ask them "Wait, doesn't he already know? Isn't he God?"

They never have a ready answer for that one. Can't blame them. The answer either way is a minefield. I even point out scripture that contradicts itself over whether or not Jesus is the same as god or lesser than god (bible says both).

jomicur's avatar

He dreamed of a degree in aeronautical engineering, but Bethlehem Polytechnic didn't offer one. It was Carpentry, Animal Husbandry or nothing.

larry parker's avatar

They were $100 Nike sandals. ; )

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

But can a christian wear a brand of shoes named from a Pagan Goddess ? 😁

NOGODZ20's avatar

Gives new meaning to "Air Jordan."

larry parker's avatar

Michael, row the boat (load of money) ashore.

cdbunch's avatar

Did you see Ben and Matt decided to do a movie about that. I think Matt was doing Ben a favor, he hasn't done a movie that mundane in a long time.

cdbunch's avatar

That said. I win the lottery, I'm still buying a plane. It's not the demons I mind, it's the sweaty, noisy, all too corporeal, humans who don't fit in their seats that I mind.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

To borrow a line from that great philosopher and well-known Warner Bros. curmudgeon, Yosemite Sam, “Great jumpin' horny toads!!!” I already knew that Deion Sanders was a horse's patoot, as I started reading this article, so his behavior is no great surprise. The Colorado Springs Gazette, an organization that not only depends on the Press Freedom clause of the First Amendment but should have a better than average understanding of the Establishment clause of that same element, has no such excuse. Their thumb-fingered response to the FFRF's correction to Deion Sanders' ill-considered action is a disturbing indicator, not just of their editorial stance, but their utter failure to understand the situation at the University of Colorado or the very definition of diversity, which Sanders was blatantly stepping on.

Perhaps worst of all is, if I recall correctly, that Colorado Springs is a pretty right-wing town to begin with. That their editorial may reflect the attitude of the city itself just makes the whole scene that much more fraught, and any outcome that much more potentially compromised.

S. Arch's avatar

"Deion Sanders, then, is doing something clearly illegal."

It's only illegal temporarily. Sooner or later, a lawsuit over a case like this will be brought before CAWCNO (formerly SCOTUS), and they will green-light all coercive Christian prayers in schools and youth sports.

Matri's avatar

​​“No one can convince me that he died because of ivermectin,” one member wrote this week.

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That's Christian-grade Republican-level MAGA think.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Can't help but notice that Lemoi, who was giving instructions on how to administer this crapola to children, had no children of his own to poison.

Mr.E's avatar

munchausen by proxy

NOGODZ20's avatar

Boreal posted this story on the previous FA article about 5 hours ago as of this typing. Thought you'd be interested in more comments on the subject.