The real problem isn't blessing a same sex union versus marriage. The root problem lies with the people who actually care what the Pope and the church think about anything. The world would be a far better place if people just thought for themselves and stopped seeking the approval of religious leaders when it comes to living their lives as they see fit.
"And now, Steve and Allen, may you enjoy a long and happy marriage. May your union be truly blessed. Each day, may you wake up and rejoice in each other's love, until that fateful and unfortunate day when one of you shall pass from the mortal realm. Then burn in hell. you god-damn sodomites!!"
Once again, the Catholic Church is moving at about 10 miles per hour while the rest of the world blows past it like an F-15 at Mach 2 full afterburner. "Look at us! We're okay with blessing gay relationships!" they congratulate themselves, while a substantial majority of their laity aren't just okay with that but with gay marriage as well and may have been so even before 𝑂𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑣 𝐻𝑜𝑑𝑔𝑒𝑠 was ruled on. And they are held back by the same stupid holy book and the same stupid doctrines they were founded on, because, in the final analysis, they think that holy books and doctrines are more important than PEOPLE.
In too many ways, the RCC remains in the 16th century, while the rest of us live in the 21st, yet they fail even to see that. It's a wonder that they can tolerate the cognitive dissonance.
I see two reasons: 1, good pr to take the focus off the kiddie diddlers they're doing nothing about, and 2, keeping more butts in pews for that collection plate.
I think one of the great comforts a Christian can garner from their faith is the moral rock upon which they can ground their beliefs - an unchanging, essentially correct, immovable set of proper moral values unswayed by earthly concerns.
Look, you've been promoted from “intrinsically disordered" to the same level now as "dog" and "cat" (which can also receive blessings), whaddya complain' about?
It is big as far as it makes the fundamentalist Catholics angry and they are calling him an anti-Pope now, which is hilarious because they are the ones who claim the Pope is infallible. Until he goes against what they want.
For these people, the steps have to be tiny like this. US society as a whole right now isn’t much better. I have a trans child and live in Mississippi so that’s probably all I need to say about that.
I need to bitch about yesterday's article, the High School Satan club seeking permission to form at a school near Memphis. I'm on the other end of Tennessee, yet one of my local news stations felt they needed to run it as a top article today. The biggest problem though, is this:
Throughout the biased article, multiple people, several of which are from other states, were given fully attributed quotes (i.e. "..."), all of them against the club. Only one statement was attributed to the club, and it was not an attributed or direct quote. The only thing they attributed to the club was that they expected to spark protest, which of course leads the ignorant to believe that they want to form the club with the sole purpose of causing anger and division. I regularly read articles from this news station that are significantly grammatically incorrect and riddled with spelling errors.
So nice to see Pope Fluffy bringing Holy Mother Church up to the public policy status quo of two decades ago, when society at large became willing to tolerate LGBTQ people existing, but still hadn't decided whether we were really 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 yet. Doesn't it just bring a tear to the eye? For once, the RCC is less 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘺 behind the times on something!
Mind you, it's something which the rest of society was dragging ass on in no small part due to the Vatican's global campaign against any kind of positive action on civil rights (and, let's give credit where it's owed here- every other major world religion helped!). Now they're 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 less of a sea anchor on human progress, thanks to Frank, and that ain't nothing! It ain't much of something, but it, strictly speaking, by the literal definition, ain't 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨.
They're shrugging their shoulders and rolling their eyes at us, instead of coming at us with torches and pitchforks! 𝘋𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦?
Nailed it: this is giving starving people a crumb. But only if they are eternally grateful. And, god forbid, don't ask for anything else--like being seen and treated as real people. Frankie, who has a long ignoble history as a political animal, is performatively doing the minimum because it will make him look good by comparison to his even more hatefully bigoted opponents (like most of the US bishops.) I wonder when he will take responsibility for the 30,000 people murdered in Argentina during the Dirty War that he was an enthusiastic supporter of.
-- Stephen Fry, answering a question during the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate, “Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?”
The Church's evolution on the issue slavery is little different from their recent change of heart regarding the LGBTQ+ community: They Are BEHIND The Rest Of Us. They have been behind the rest of us practically from the get-go, and personally, I am not certain I can conceive of a time when they could hope to catch up, never mind get ahead of those of us who have long been thinking in far freer terms than they are capable of. The ONLY reason that they remain an authority figure is because of their incessant indoctrination of their parishioners, and even with that, they lag behind those they would presume to lead.
The hierarchy of the Catholic Church amount to little more than a bunch of social Luddites who can count themselves lucky that they can function at all in a modern society.
I was listening to a bit on NPR as I was getting into work. Most of the people they interviewed (LGBTQ catholics) said how excited they were about the situation. All I could think of was to ask myself "they're excited to be reminded they're second class citizens?" a phrase which the host actually used shortly thereafter.
What the Catholic Church officially thinks SHOULD matter to the average citizen in the United States, because you can damn well bet that Leonard Leo and his Federalist Society are drumming up all the test cases they can find to run up to the US Supreme Court, whose 6½ Catholics are eagerly awaiting the opportunity to rule on them based on their favorite "C" document. No, not the Constitution (which is what they're SUPPOSED to use) but the Catholic Catechism, which was clearly the only thing they consulted in their atrocious "Dobbs" decision overturning "Roe v. Wade".
The real problem isn't blessing a same sex union versus marriage. The root problem lies with the people who actually care what the Pope and the church think about anything. The world would be a far better place if people just thought for themselves and stopped seeking the approval of religious leaders when it comes to living their lives as they see fit.
"And now, Steve and Allen, may you enjoy a long and happy marriage. May your union be truly blessed. Each day, may you wake up and rejoice in each other's love, until that fateful and unfortunate day when one of you shall pass from the mortal realm. Then burn in hell. you god-damn sodomites!!"
Once again, the Catholic Church is moving at about 10 miles per hour while the rest of the world blows past it like an F-15 at Mach 2 full afterburner. "Look at us! We're okay with blessing gay relationships!" they congratulate themselves, while a substantial majority of their laity aren't just okay with that but with gay marriage as well and may have been so even before 𝑂𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑣 𝐻𝑜𝑑𝑔𝑒𝑠 was ruled on. And they are held back by the same stupid holy book and the same stupid doctrines they were founded on, because, in the final analysis, they think that holy books and doctrines are more important than PEOPLE.
In too many ways, the RCC remains in the 16th century, while the rest of us live in the 21st, yet they fail even to see that. It's a wonder that they can tolerate the cognitive dissonance.
I see two reasons: 1, good pr to take the focus off the kiddie diddlers they're doing nothing about, and 2, keeping more butts in pews for that collection plate.
If the claim of a VIRGIN getting pregnant doesn't "annihilate the concept of nature," then nothing does.
I think one of the great comforts a Christian can garner from their faith is the moral rock upon which they can ground their beliefs - an unchanging, essentially correct, immovable set of proper moral values unswayed by earthly concerns.
We have always been tolerant of LGBT folks.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
They stand against the rights of consenting LGBTQ adults while defending and aiding the child molesters within the ranks of their clergy.
The RCC. Time marches on, yet they pull in the opposite direction.
Look, you've been promoted from “intrinsically disordered" to the same level now as "dog" and "cat" (which can also receive blessings), whaddya complain' about?
It is big as far as it makes the fundamentalist Catholics angry and they are calling him an anti-Pope now, which is hilarious because they are the ones who claim the Pope is infallible. Until he goes against what they want.
For these people, the steps have to be tiny like this. US society as a whole right now isn’t much better. I have a trans child and live in Mississippi so that’s probably all I need to say about that.
I need to bitch about yesterday's article, the High School Satan club seeking permission to form at a school near Memphis. I'm on the other end of Tennessee, yet one of my local news stations felt they needed to run it as a top article today. The biggest problem though, is this:
Throughout the biased article, multiple people, several of which are from other states, were given fully attributed quotes (i.e. "..."), all of them against the club. Only one statement was attributed to the club, and it was not an attributed or direct quote. The only thing they attributed to the club was that they expected to spark protest, which of course leads the ignorant to believe that they want to form the club with the sole purpose of causing anger and division. I regularly read articles from this news station that are significantly grammatically incorrect and riddled with spelling errors.
I am angry.🤬
So nice to see Pope Fluffy bringing Holy Mother Church up to the public policy status quo of two decades ago, when society at large became willing to tolerate LGBTQ people existing, but still hadn't decided whether we were really 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 yet. Doesn't it just bring a tear to the eye? For once, the RCC is less 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘺 behind the times on something!
Mind you, it's something which the rest of society was dragging ass on in no small part due to the Vatican's global campaign against any kind of positive action on civil rights (and, let's give credit where it's owed here- every other major world religion helped!). Now they're 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 less of a sea anchor on human progress, thanks to Frank, and that ain't nothing! It ain't much of something, but it, strictly speaking, by the literal definition, ain't 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨.
They're shrugging their shoulders and rolling their eyes at us, instead of coming at us with torches and pitchforks! 𝘋𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦?
Nailed it: this is giving starving people a crumb. But only if they are eternally grateful. And, god forbid, don't ask for anything else--like being seen and treated as real people. Frankie, who has a long ignoble history as a political animal, is performatively doing the minimum because it will make him look good by comparison to his even more hatefully bigoted opponents (like most of the US bishops.) I wonder when he will take responsibility for the 30,000 people murdered in Argentina during the Dirty War that he was an enthusiastic supporter of.
...𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 [𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑅𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝐶ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ] 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑒... 𝑎𝑏𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑜𝑘𝑎𝑦, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛'𝑡, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝐶ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑖𝑓 𝑖𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠, “𝑜ℎ 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑𝑛'𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑏𝑜𝑑𝑦 𝑒𝑙𝑠𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑑”? [𝑇𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑓𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑚] 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑓𝑜𝑟?!
-- Stephen Fry, answering a question during the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate, “Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?”
The Church's evolution on the issue slavery is little different from their recent change of heart regarding the LGBTQ+ community: They Are BEHIND The Rest Of Us. They have been behind the rest of us practically from the get-go, and personally, I am not certain I can conceive of a time when they could hope to catch up, never mind get ahead of those of us who have long been thinking in far freer terms than they are capable of. The ONLY reason that they remain an authority figure is because of their incessant indoctrination of their parishioners, and even with that, they lag behind those they would presume to lead.
The hierarchy of the Catholic Church amount to little more than a bunch of social Luddites who can count themselves lucky that they can function at all in a modern society.
Wow! A blessing from a pedo! One of those and $10 bucks will get you a Crappuccino or something at Starbucks.
I was listening to a bit on NPR as I was getting into work. Most of the people they interviewed (LGBTQ catholics) said how excited they were about the situation. All I could think of was to ask myself "they're excited to be reminded they're second class citizens?" a phrase which the host actually used shortly thereafter.
What the Catholic Church officially thinks SHOULD matter to the average citizen in the United States, because you can damn well bet that Leonard Leo and his Federalist Society are drumming up all the test cases they can find to run up to the US Supreme Court, whose 6½ Catholics are eagerly awaiting the opportunity to rule on them based on their favorite "C" document. No, not the Constitution (which is what they're SUPPOSED to use) but the Catholic Catechism, which was clearly the only thing they consulted in their atrocious "Dobbs" decision overturning "Roe v. Wade".