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Boreal's avatar

Nothing say freedumb like enforced flag worship.

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NoOne of Consequence's avatar

Really each child to have to hug the flag as they file into school, like good little MAGAts, emulating their child-king.

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jomicur's avatar

And they-all need tuh hug thuh Bahbull with thuh othuh hand, guldarnit.

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cdbunch's avatar

That wasn't a hug.

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Joe King's avatar

"River Bluff is a school where 73% of students are white, and Marissa believes she was singled out (despite not being the only student walking during the Pledge) because she’s Black."

Now 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 while black is an offense? WTF white people? (And I am a white people).

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jomicur's avatar

IIRC, in the ante-Bellum South it was a crime to teach slaves to read. And as Stephen Foster told us, old times there are not forgotten.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Les commentateurs les plus agés ont connu l'époque quand il y avait des écoles pour blancs et pour Afro-Américains. Les racistes bavent à l'idée de revenir à cette pratique.

PS : toute plainte à propos de mon usage de ma langue maternelle doit être adressé à mon cher ami Zorg 😁

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

S'il vous uhm parfait.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Je te remercie mais ce dessert n'est pas vegan.

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Len Koz's avatar

"You know what ELSE everybody likes? Parfaits! Have you ever met a person, you say, "Let's get some parfait," they say, "Hell no, I don't like no parfait."? Parfaits are delicious!" - Donkey

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Joan the Dork's avatar

But... but... if we 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 loudly, forcefully remind kids what country they're in, every single day, then they might occasionally spare a thought for 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 countries!

...and if they spare a thought for 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 countries, they might compare those countries to 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 country!

...and if they compare other countries to 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 country, they might realize there are some shockingly huge 𝘧𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘴 with this country!

...and if they realize that there are shockingly huge 𝘧𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘴 with this country, they might start thinking they can 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦 this country for the better!

...and if they start thinking they can 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦 this country for the better, they might... um... what was I getting upset about again?

Oh, right. '𝐌𝐔𝐑𝐈𝐂𝐀 𝐅𝐋𝐀𝐆𝐒 𝐏𝐀𝐓𝐑𝐈𝐎𝐓𝐈𝐒𝐌 𝐄𝐀𝐆𝐋𝐄𝐒 𝑮𝑶𝑻𝑻 𝑴𝑰𝑻 𝑼𝑵𝑺 ...𝑤𝑎𝑖𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑑𝑖𝑑 𝐼 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑦?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Bon sang mais c'est bien sûr ! Ça doit être pour ça que je préfère les cuisines Chinoises*, Thailandaises et Coréennes à celle de mon pays. C'est parce qu'il n'y a rien d'équivalent ici. Merci Joan pour cet éclaircissement.

* Ça marche aussi pour les accessoires pour cheveux 😁

PS : putain, je suis tellement habituée à utiliser l'anglais que ça fait bizarre d'écrire dans ma langue 😅

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Okay, if you're going to be writing in French from now on, you realise it's taking up a measurable percentage of my time trying to get bloody translations. 😇 as it is my schoolboy French can barely cope with the shorter sentences.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Mon espagnol est trop rouillé.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

As is my te reo – at least I presume you don't mean your Spanish is a:

"Provençal sauce made from pounded red chilli peppers, garlic, breadcrumbs, and other ingredients blended with stock, typically added to bouillabaisse."

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

DM like sauce rouille but I can't stand the smell so I never tasted it. The word you look for is "rusty".

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I discovered that – it's also a town/district somewhere south-west of Poitiers. I was very thorough.😇

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Matri's avatar

Parsley woo English, seal woo play?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Welcome to the difference between patriotism and JINGOISM, never mind the blind determination on the part of some people to get EVERYONE to conform TO THEM, to their sensibilities and points of view, individuality and rights be damned. Ms. Livingston was so far out of line in her interactions with Ms. Barnwell that the distance could be measured in light-years, yet she has paid no price for her ill-considered behavior.

To my mind, this is clearly one for the ACLU ... and the River Bluff school system had better be prepared to ante up.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

South Carolina is ranked 42nd Overall as "Best State to Live In."

Even worse, they're ranked 44th Overall in Education. This article is one illustration as to why.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Many of those red states are really low in the education stakes – I think I see a pattern here.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

A suggestion for them: Less Jesus, more knowledge of how the world and the universe really work.

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Boreal's avatar

Now you're just trying to make the baby jesus cry.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Any day I can do that is a good day.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Like they are going to take any notice of that. 😃

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jomicur's avatar

But science is just somebody's opinion, isn't it?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."

-- Homer Simpson

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cdbunch's avatar

A bigger issue than the idiotic Pledge is going on here. Why does the school think it's okay for a teacher to shove a student for any reason?

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S. Arch's avatar

I hate to say this, but we need to face reality. In the Red states where so-called "Republicans" hold a political trifecta or have a veto-proof majority, they cannot be stopped from enacting their fascist, white Christian nationalist policies. Racial, religious, and gender minorities in those states are in the same position as Jews in 1930s Germany. They should get out now at any cost.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Sad to say, but very damned true. Ol' Sarah Huck-a-buck decided she's going to take down the protections against child labor in Arkansas, and who knows where she's going to go from there?

It ain't pretty ... not by a long shot.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Nothin' like a good 'ol fashioned case of black lung for a young'un to build character!

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

The same "dignity of work" that Romney's wife never learned.

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cdbunch's avatar

Work is for peons.

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cdbunch's avatar

Low birth-rate? With work weeks like that who has time or energy for sex. I'd be suicidal too if I was consistently working 14-hr days 5 days a week or 10 hr for 7 days.

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NoOne of Consequence's avatar

Disgusting. That teacher should be fired and have her license taken away. You simply should not be allowed to behave this way. But since it's SC, well, I expect the only problem the powers that be have is that she didn't do it in the cameras blind spot. Which probably has a racist nickname.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

The teacher is a special education teacher, this makes me afraid for her already vulnerable students. She really needs to lose her license.

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jomicur's avatar

Groucho: Do you have a license?

Chico: No, but my dog, he's got millions of 'em.

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oraxx's avatar

Repeat anything enough times and it becomes meaningless. Why would anyone ever need to pledge allegiance more than once? Patriotism, of course, is not the issue. It's all about rote conformity, and woe be unto whomever gets out of line. I'm a third generation war veteran who descends from at least six men who fought in the American revolution, and I've no use for the pledge.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Good for her for having the great courage to stand up against the school and teacher who did this. Faktrism is a scourge our county is fighting and it seems to be even more difficult to eradicate than Covid.

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cdbunch's avatar

I wonder if this faketriot is going to pull out the "I'm a veteran and I won't stand for anyone disrespecting this country" card. Or even "My father fought in Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan..."

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jomicur's avatar

My bet would be on "My great grandfather fought with Stonewall Jackson."

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cdbunch's avatar

For the latter two, it could be mother. Technically not allowed in combat, but that's a fairy-tale distinction in a war zone.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Folks that pull this will rarely admit to having a female serving in their family, let alone try to use her service as a “I’m better than you at patriotism” card.

My hubs is a war vet and I’m just a veteran, and I try not to do that type of bs. But if it is said to me, they’ll be slapped down so quickly.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Hell, I could claim my father fought in World War II, and a bunch of relatives in World War I. You know, real wars. /S 😁

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cdbunch's avatar

If she's old enough to have a father that fought in WWII, she's found deLeon's fountain.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Go Marissa, you have rights and it''s time they are respected.

"though none that involved a TEACHING physically attacking them."

Shouldn't be "Teacher' ? 🤔

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Oh, so now you are trying to teach us Murkins Murkin!!! 😝

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ok, à partir de maintenant je n'utiliserais plus que le français 😝

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Joan the Dork's avatar

I thought it should've been "douchebag," given the context.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

C'est pas faux.

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Donrox's avatar

An aside from an outsider on the inside of Southern Christianity. Not only is this woman racist and nationalistic she is a sectarian Pentecostal. Her hairstyle (because of the angels, as Paul would say) and her dowdy "modest" skirt give her away. Her husband probably wears Wranglers and a ball cap. Jesus does not care if men hide their glory in a cap.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Hairstyle ? She doesn't cut her hair ? Then what is a woman who have to be careful every time she wants to sit or lay down ? 🤔

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Donrox's avatar

The uncut hair is the Christiban equivalent to a veil. The voluminous clothing is the equivalent of the burkha

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I am not christian and I don't cut my hair. I am really have to be careful to not sit on it or stuck it in the chair 😏

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jomicur's avatar

Pregnant?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

*Spit on her screen and curse Jomicur*

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

You shouldn't be laying hands on a student unless there is some danger involved. The only time I ever did it was to break up a fight, and even then apparently it was only marginally okay. I was a volunteer at the time, and obviously things had changed in the 20 years or so I had been out of education.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

One of these days, Livingston is going to try that crap on someone who'll put her in the hospital.

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jomicur's avatar

'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Si seulement, mais si c'est un jeune noir nous savons tous comment cela va finir.

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Lucius's avatar

I'm not surprised it was a special Ed teacher. That profession tends to attract a lot of really shitty people because it gives them access to extremely vulnerable kids who get ignored and disregarded even more than regular kids tend to be. They're also much more isolated.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

To Nicole "Muscles" Livingston:

Dear Dodo...

It seems the teacher is in need of an education. Look up West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) and read what it has to say. That SCOTUS decision is still the law of the land, even in the little fascist dreamworld you exist in.

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