There isn't much of anything that cannot be justified in the name of religious belief. A thousand years of Christianity in Germany did not prevent the rise of the Nazis, and millions of German Christians willingly did Hitler's bidding. Religion and morality are not mutually exclusive, but they are very far from being the same thing. I've read a great deal of history, and people like this teacher are a big part of why the writers of the U.S. Constitution did not give religion any role to play in governance. They understood full-well the dangers of handing power to religious people.
I sort of feel like it's important to note things like Judensau* - carved images of Jews allegedly having obscene contact with pigs - were present in Germany (and other European countries) long before Hitler appeared. These images often appear on Christian churches, what Hitler really did was make that whole attitude state-sanctioned; he didn't invent it. Antisemitism is a lot older than WWII might have some folks thinking, and Christianity has often been a major perpetrator of it.
We need to speak up about this. Thank you. And tax the steeples. The far right Christians have very little capacity to deal with uncomfortable feelings so they control others that are different.
He must have seen the pay and lack of benefits most private religious schools offer and decided teaching while being an open bigot wasn't for him. Because that would be the obvious choice, there's plenty of hateful Christian academies.
I very much doubt his suit will go anywhere. Without tenure the district is free to not renew his year-to-year contract. These types are all over out there beating their chests and proclaiming “see how much they persecute me? “ I’m sorry, but why didn’t Jeebus put in an appearance and explain why he was right to torment these kids (which his god created). Modern talibangelical xtianity is all about oppressing any group they don’t like.
I realized that reality for them when they die won't be so different from that in all likelihood. It's just unfortunate that I guess they'll never know that and of course we won't either.
Who are the snowflakes!! Jesus supposedly could deal with differences without saying he was a victim. I cant imagine Jesus suing anyone, or blaming anyone for hurting his feelings. Just saying.
Brilliant image. It would make a great dream sequence in a film. I am certainly enjoying the reel I am running in my head — and it’s very Cecil B. DeMille, a cast of thousands.
A great many Christians who claim they're being persecuted, would be the first people to persecute others if given the chance. Like many others, I think he would like to see his sense of Christian privilege enshrined in law.
...and then he'd act all surprised when he found himself hauled before a theocratic tribunal for violating some obscure commandment he never bothered to read in his own holy book. They all 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 they'd love to live in a Christian nation, but that's only because they themselves have never had to live under religious law. The Puritans of the Massachusetts Bay Colony tried to build a society based on religious law, and the existence of Rhode Island today stands as a testament to how many Christians preferred a more 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳 society, having first experienced the one based on their own religion.
People who would break down the barriers between church and state always seem to assume it will be their particular tribe calling the shots. They should be imagining the tribe they hate most having control over their lives.
And even if it were their sect calling the shots, they're operating under the assumption that the status quo they're accustomed to within their sect would hold- you know, being able to cherry-pick which religious rules they follow, beholden only to their own comfort and convenience.
What would actually happen is that their religious leaders would use their newfound power to crack down on all the little bitty shitty rules about what you're allowed to eat, what you're allowed to wear, and how you're allowed to groom yourself, and they'd be absolutely fucking miserable starting roughly one week after getting exactly what they wanted.
Joe Kennedy did not have tenure and his contract was not renewed. SCOTUS ruled his religious freedom was violated by the school by not renewing his contract.
The assistant coach who prayed on the 50-yard-line outside actual game time, and the students could join him "voluntarily". The school district warned him several times and decided not to renew his contract. He sued for violating his religious freedom, SCOTUS agreed with him.
The majority of SCOTUS knew what outcome it wanted and found a way, however implausible, to get there. Scalia once or twice took Thomas to task for doing that. I no longer have the reference but someone analyzed the cases where those two differed and wrote about it. The conclusion was that Thomas was unprincipled.
It came off as neutral to me. But I do think our current SCROTUS is the worst, most corrupted, hypocritical clown show ever. They are not legitimate, not deserving of any respect, and at least 3 of them lied under oath. Six of them cannot drop dead fast enough. Talk about draining swamps- impeach the assholes.
In that case, I believe it was Justice [sic] Gorsuch who premised the decision on the basis of an incorrect reading of the factual record…evidence from the case was plainly misrepresented in order to achieve the desired outcome.
Yes they ruled he should get his job back. He had moved here to wingnut central (FL) then he did one game, and strutted out to the field to pray, expecting everyone to give him adulation, and no one joined him!
Weaponizing victimhood for Himself. Jesus supposedly didn’t act like a victim. Being uncomfortable with feeling difficult emotions seems to be a pattern in this community. Blaming others for the inability to navigate uncomfortable feelings is emotionally developmentally immature.
But teaching at a private Christian school won’t get him notoriety enough to become a persecution welfare speaker. His so-called motivation to bring people to Jesus won’t be served either because those kids already have Jesus.
No, it pays more to get fired from public school teaching and spend the rest of his days going on talk shows and right wing news programs misrepresenting his story to make him out to be a victim.
This is the awful truth of our current reality. It honestly makes me feel a deep sense of despair and irritation with humans. The meteor can't find us fast enough some days. Or the next human specific plague. Something that rots testicles first perhaps.
You would think that the persecution circuit might be getting overcrowded. And the target market is getting tapped by Trump too. Are these rubes made of money?
I don’t think the rubes are the ones actually footing the bill. It’s the Kochs, the Musks, and whatever other robberbarons there are out there. And the corporations, Kroger, BP, AT&T, monopolizing our economy are also funding it. They pay off the poor unfortunate souls who are getting tips and tricks for how to get persecuted for profit, so those people keep the rubes on high alert, fearful of everything, moving from one conspiracy to the next, so they aren’t paying attention to who is really out to get them. They do it to keep the GOP in enough power to block effective legislation that would rein in the corporate greed, and finally get the fascism that benefits them. The rubes drop a bunch of money, yeah, but the funding isn’t from them.
Like the Trump NFTs, or shoes, or bibles, or now the crypto currency/real estate scam. He gets a couple hundred regular joes to buy them up, but what really happens is the super wealthy buy them in massive quantities to get around campaign finance laws. Do they get hundreds of pairs of shoes? No, they make enough to satisfy the idiots on the street, but it’s just a scam to let his buddies give him more than the $5000 cap on campaign contributions. Once the money that supposed to go toward tacky bibles gets into his pocket, he can use it for whatever he wants, no limit to how much he can spend on his own campaign. But he has to make the cash somehow. Enter imaginary collectibles, pretend money, $3.00 gold lamé shoes.
The billionaires can not spend their money in a lifetime, so they will never run dry by putting millions into the politicians that will keep them raking it in.
What I'm reading here is that he is not just a jerk to trans students but to students with a preferred nickname also. Some kids hate the name on their birth certificate. They may go by a middle name, initials, a derivative nickname or a different name altogether and are embarrassed every year when they start a new class and the teacher calls roll for the first time. Continuing to call them by that name is something a bully would do.
He's just a straight up asshole. His religion gives him cover for his bigotry, misogyny, homophobic, xenophobic beliefs. Even without his bigotry, my guess is he's still an asshole.
I'd guess he's a hypocrite, and that the cis kids with nicknames don't have any problem in his class. Or at least, they didn't before he got two trans kids in his classes. Maybe he switched to 'no nicknames at all' at that point because he was afraid of being called out as a hypocrite, but really, does anyone seriously think this guy was 'no nicknames' 5 or 10 years ago?
Can you hazard any guesses as to why nicknames are uncommon in Norway?
I lived in Costa Rica for a year in the 1980s. Nicknames were almost mandatory and often had nothing at all to do with someone’s name but often with a physical characteristic. For example, I had a student with a very prominent forehead (think Matt Gaetz). His nickname was Cartelera (billboard in English).
Well it's cultural, obviously. There are cultures in the world where extra unofficial names are the norm, and calling someone by their legal name is 'weird' behavior. There are cultures in the world that basically don't have them at all. And everything in between.
But *this* is not about culture. Right-wingers simply made up a new religious rule in the 2020s or late 2010s because they are bigoted against trans people, and they needed some paper-thin excuse to exercise their bigotry. There is not now, and there never has been, any cultural bias in the US against using nicknames. Using them isn't ubiquitous like it may be in some other places, but it's pretty common.
I have no idea why nicknames are not use here. We just don't. Some get or take a nickname when a teenager, but it sedom stuck for long.
If I knew why nicknames are common other places, I might get an idea. Or I can do a serch for any paper on it.
A wild guess is that kids very, very, very seldom get the same first name as their parents, so my daughter named Straw Reader II would never appear here.
Thanks for your thoughts. I was the third son in my family. My oldest brother got a nickname in high school loosely based on our very unusual and difficult (at first encounter) surname. The second son was tagged with the same nickname in high school probably because the first son had gone off to college. I was just one year behind the second son so we were in the same school for 3 years. His nickname became “Big xxx” and I was dubbed “Little xxx”. (omitting the actual nickname to preserve anonymity).
No one ever accused my high school classmates of too much originality.
Jordan Cemek. Okay where to begin. So you wont respect Trans people? And that probably includes Queer people, Women, Minorities and the Disabled as well. And people's names are that way from birth. My parents named me Ellen Murphy. Yah well I don't feel like an Ellen or a Murphy or a Woman most of the time. Jordan I'm going to Hell? You first. I don't judge others. Not even Jesus did that. People like you Jordan disgust the f out of me.
Jesus didn’t seem to behave or say he felt like a victim. If I feel uncomfortable I need to deal with that. Not try to change the whole world around me so i never have to deal with anything different.
"A kid can go outside and know he won't tip over because gravity is a real thing."
Jordhole.Can I call you Jordhole? I don't give a fuck, I'll call you Jordhole anyway. You obviously don't know anything about gravity. Surprise! Gravity is constantly trying to make you tip over. Your brain (if you have one) and nerves and bones and muscles are the things that make you NOT tip over. Moron.
I've got tinnitus and bad dizziness. We took our granddaughter to the Renaissance Fair for Princess Day. I looked like I was sucking Mead down all day stumbling all over the place. 🤪 Gravity is a bitch sometimes.
Yeah, me too. Currently nursing a torn meniscus, which I got from, er, tripping over. Over a pile of books. Because, unfortunately, that's how gravity works. Because wishes aren't a thing.
Am I the only one who thought larry parker was referring to being drunk? One time during Covid I woke up around 3 am outside on my concrete patio. I must have tipped over.
ETA: Ah, I just reread Lisa59’s comment about mead.
In re: "vertically callenged": a week or so ago, I had to admonish my therapist for referring to me as "differently abled." I informed her, in no uncertain terms, that I'm a crip. (And as I learned a couple of decades ago, as a Queer Nation alum, queer.)
There is a lot of fear and worry because kids are unsure whether or not the adults in their lives are going to accept them for who they are, provide them with a world that is stable, safe, and above all 𝘩𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦, or just let them straight up get murdered at their school desk by some incel shithead armed like he's going to war. The answers you are providing them with are no, no, and yes, in that order- and that means 𝘺𝘰𝘶 are the problem. You can solve it by staying as far away from children as humanly possible.
You're right, he didn't make any mistakes... because he doesn't exist. You're projecting your own bigotry onto a fictional character in your favorite storybook as if it somehow excuses you being a shitty human being. It doesn't. That book of yours mentions gender identity precisely not even once. The hate is aaaaaalll yours on this one, chucklefuck.
*Jesus,* will you listen to yourself? "*I* desire; *I* disagree." Your profession is not about what *you* want, fuckbrain. Those kids are not your property, and *you* don't get to decree who they are or what they believe in- you arrogant little shit.
Brava, Joan. You are wonderful at responding to these bigots, but it saddens me that you have to be. They tell us gay men (especially drag queens) are pedophiles and trans women are delusional. I suppose it's a millimeter of progress that they now know there's a difference between a drag queen and a trans woman.
What gets me is that they haven't told an original lie about any of us in centuries. It's all the same material; they just... switch around some of the words now and then to re-target the bullshit when they start losing that part of the culture war. Plug'n'play propaganda. They're filling out a bigotry 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳.
And then he feels a pang of remorse, and promises not to drown the whole world again, which sure seems to indicate that he thought he'd made a 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 by Doing a Genocide (again). At least, doing it with water, anyway. Maybe he thought his 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 was not using fire instead.
He also made the core of his favorite planet and the critical element in his pet creation's blood-oxygen cycle iron, which per his own admission he's fucking allergic to, so... there's that.
Nah, fae at least honor their deals, even if they frequently screw you on the technicalities. That's more of a "buyer beware" situation, though, and it's not like the 𝘧𝘢𝘦 created an entire species just to torture and murder them on alternate Tuesdays.
It wasn't really a mistake. God lied when he said he regretted making people to hide the fact that he's a cruel monster that gets off on causing suffering.
My employer has a DEI component to our annual performance reviews, which I support in theory but hate in bureaucratic reality. We are supposed to engage in 2 DEI activities per year. And the easiest way to do so is to attend a couple of programs put on by various employee groups (LGBTQ, veterans, and a handful of others). Now, I’m not much of a joiner and I’m close to retirement and just want to be left alone to do my work and I don’t think I really need a lot of consciousness raising, so one year I went to only 1 program. My manager asked me if I was sure I hadn’t gone to two. And I told him I have a trans son, I go to the Pride Festival and give money to the drag queens, and I argue online with bigots. Long pause. He said, “I’d say that counts.”
“Throughout the U.S., students are showing increased signs of anxiety, fear, and attempted suicide. The solution is complex, but it starts with rebuilding a foundation of morality and truth on which to build our lives. Our kids need stability and security, and that comes from unchanging truths that have existed since the beginning of time.“
Bullshit. They’ve been anxious, fearful, and suicidal because fucksticks like you attack them for being even just a little bit different. You attack people for expressing the best parts of themselves, like Gus Walz. Or for liking something you personally don’t like. Or for being who they are most comfortable being. I’m sure you have no difficulty calling Robert, Bob, or Amanda, Mandy. I bet you even would play along with the big jock guy going by his teammates’ nickname for him, like a guy at my school who went by Deuce, I don’t remember his actual name, because of a sports achievement he made in his youth. Being unsure of life is just life, no one is ever sure of anything. But trying to pigeonhole reality into a worldview that it truly doesn’t fit, like Christianity and especially the ideas of only male and female when intersex people have existed from the first Homo sapiens and probably before, only causes more doubt and insecurity. What does help is adults in their life providing security while the children are unsure. People who care about their well-being and safety while they are exploring the unknown. Not people who should have their backs criticizing them, bullying them, and treating them like second class citizens.
Your ignorance is highlighted by this idiotic statement. “A kid can go outside and know he won't tip over because gravity is a real thing.”. You’re a schoolteacher and you say this shit?!? You tip over because gravity works, floating away is what would cause concern over gravity. Even if you would have agreed to treating transgender students respectfully, you shouldn’t be in a position to teach them.
Refusing gun control, mental healthcare, a strong middle class, economic prosperity, and promoting toxic traits as true masculinity, and a sense of entitlement in teenage boys.
Sensible gun control is the priority, but addressing all the other issues are still a part of the solution. They talk about looking into some of them, but are not willing to do more than pay lip service.
I was struck by how this man believes that gravity only happens when you step outside, and without it you would tip over (not float off?). If he wants truth, could we start with some real basics?
There isn't much of anything that cannot be justified in the name of religious belief. A thousand years of Christianity in Germany did not prevent the rise of the Nazis, and millions of German Christians willingly did Hitler's bidding. Religion and morality are not mutually exclusive, but they are very far from being the same thing. I've read a great deal of history, and people like this teacher are a big part of why the writers of the U.S. Constitution did not give religion any role to play in governance. They understood full-well the dangers of handing power to religious people.
I sort of feel like it's important to note things like Judensau* - carved images of Jews allegedly having obscene contact with pigs - were present in Germany (and other European countries) long before Hitler appeared. These images often appear on Christian churches, what Hitler really did was make that whole attitude state-sanctioned; he didn't invent it. Antisemitism is a lot older than WWII might have some folks thinking, and Christianity has often been a major perpetrator of it.
*Wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judensau
Hitler never said anything about the Jews the German people hadn't been hearing from their pulpits for centuries.
Hitler tapped into a pre-existing bigotry, just like Trump did with his MAGAt hordes. He legitimized hate that was already there.
The kkkatolik church's raping of little kids in Germany helped Hitler control and silence the pope in WWII. "The Pope at War" by David I. Kertzer.
We need to speak up about this. Thank you. And tax the steeples. The far right Christians have very little capacity to deal with uncomfortable feelings so they control others that are different.
Tax the steeples
He must have seen the pay and lack of benefits most private religious schools offer and decided teaching while being an open bigot wasn't for him. Because that would be the obvious choice, there's plenty of hateful Christian academies.
I very much doubt his suit will go anywhere. Without tenure the district is free to not renew his year-to-year contract. These types are all over out there beating their chests and proclaiming “see how much they persecute me? “ I’m sorry, but why didn’t Jeebus put in an appearance and explain why he was right to torment these kids (which his god created). Modern talibangelical xtianity is all about oppressing any group they don’t like.
If Jesus came back and bitch-slapped all the evangelicals to hell I might reconsider my atheism.
That is the only no reason I would consider 😂
I'd watch that on a loop, for quite a while!
I realized that reality for them when they die won't be so different from that in all likelihood. It's just unfortunate that I guess they'll never know that and of course we won't either.
That is something I would love to see...just imagine the looks on their faces.
I know, it really would be so gratifying.
Who are the snowflakes!! Jesus supposedly could deal with differences without saying he was a victim. I cant imagine Jesus suing anyone, or blaming anyone for hurting his feelings. Just saying.
Brilliant image. It would make a great dream sequence in a film. I am certainly enjoying the reel I am running in my head — and it’s very Cecil B. DeMille, a cast of thousands.
A great many Christians who claim they're being persecuted, would be the first people to persecute others if given the chance. Like many others, I think he would like to see his sense of Christian privilege enshrined in law.
...and then he'd act all surprised when he found himself hauled before a theocratic tribunal for violating some obscure commandment he never bothered to read in his own holy book. They all 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 they'd love to live in a Christian nation, but that's only because they themselves have never had to live under religious law. The Puritans of the Massachusetts Bay Colony tried to build a society based on religious law, and the existence of Rhode Island today stands as a testament to how many Christians preferred a more 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳 society, having first experienced the one based on their own religion.
People who would break down the barriers between church and state always seem to assume it will be their particular tribe calling the shots. They should be imagining the tribe they hate most having control over their lives.
And even if it were their sect calling the shots, they're operating under the assumption that the status quo they're accustomed to within their sect would hold- you know, being able to cherry-pick which religious rules they follow, beholden only to their own comfort and convenience.
What would actually happen is that their religious leaders would use their newfound power to crack down on all the little bitty shitty rules about what you're allowed to eat, what you're allowed to wear, and how you're allowed to groom yourself, and they'd be absolutely fucking miserable starting roughly one week after getting exactly what they wanted.
Their biggest delusion is the idea people would just passively submit to being ruled by the preachers.
Cults stay in power by driving an us versus them polity. And when they can’t readily find a ‘them’ they turn on themselves.
While, allegedly, fleeing England for being persecuted.
Yeah that's the propaganda they teach us in grade school. When in fact, they were shitty rabble-rousers who even the tolerant Dutch threw out.
They already are persecuting others. They scream persecution for themselves when told to stop.
The mentality that drove the Inquisition is alive and well with America's evangelicals.
Joe Kennedy did not have tenure and his contract was not renewed. SCOTUS ruled his religious freedom was violated by the school by not renewing his contract.
Sorry, I don’t recognize the reference.
The assistant coach who prayed on the 50-yard-line outside actual game time, and the students could join him "voluntarily". The school district warned him several times and decided not to renew his contract. He sued for violating his religious freedom, SCOTUS agreed with him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Bremerton_School_District
I started reading the Wikipedia page, did it come across as biased to anyone else? Or am I getting radicalized?
The majority of SCOTUS knew what outcome it wanted and found a way, however implausible, to get there. Scalia once or twice took Thomas to task for doing that. I no longer have the reference but someone analyzed the cases where those two differed and wrote about it. The conclusion was that Thomas was unprincipled.
I don't see it but English is not my first language.
It came off as neutral to me. But I do think our current SCROTUS is the worst, most corrupted, hypocritical clown show ever. They are not legitimate, not deserving of any respect, and at least 3 of them lied under oath. Six of them cannot drop dead fast enough. Talk about draining swamps- impeach the assholes.
In that case, I believe it was Justice [sic] Gorsuch who premised the decision on the basis of an incorrect reading of the factual record…evidence from the case was plainly misrepresented in order to achieve the desired outcome.
Thanks! I didn’t know that was his name.
Yes they ruled he should get his job back. He had moved here to wingnut central (FL) then he did one game, and strutted out to the field to pray, expecting everyone to give him adulation, and no one joined him!
bigot coach... corrupt sc.
"Modern talibangelical xtianity is all about oppressing any group they don’t like."
Operative word in that sentence: They.
They are the ones who matter. They are the ones who decide who is worthy and who isn't.. They are the deciders and arbiters of other peoples' worth.
What a great cover for punishing people they hate and feeling righteous while doing so.
Talibangelical is awesome. I’ve been using Fundiban, but Talibangelical is better.
Y'All Qada, Christofacists, and crotch christians are a few more.
Weaponizing victimhood for Himself. Jesus supposedly didn’t act like a victim. Being uncomfortable with feeling difficult emotions seems to be a pattern in this community. Blaming others for the inability to navigate uncomfortable feelings is emotionally developmentally immature.
But teaching at a private Christian school won’t get him notoriety enough to become a persecution welfare speaker. His so-called motivation to bring people to Jesus won’t be served either because those kids already have Jesus.
No, it pays more to get fired from public school teaching and spend the rest of his days going on talk shows and right wing news programs misrepresenting his story to make him out to be a victim.
This is the awful truth of our current reality. It honestly makes me feel a deep sense of despair and irritation with humans. The meteor can't find us fast enough some days. Or the next human specific plague. Something that rots testicles first perhaps.
Will look good on his resume.
You would think that the persecution circuit might be getting overcrowded. And the target market is getting tapped by Trump too. Are these rubes made of money?
I don’t think the rubes are the ones actually footing the bill. It’s the Kochs, the Musks, and whatever other robberbarons there are out there. And the corporations, Kroger, BP, AT&T, monopolizing our economy are also funding it. They pay off the poor unfortunate souls who are getting tips and tricks for how to get persecuted for profit, so those people keep the rubes on high alert, fearful of everything, moving from one conspiracy to the next, so they aren’t paying attention to who is really out to get them. They do it to keep the GOP in enough power to block effective legislation that would rein in the corporate greed, and finally get the fascism that benefits them. The rubes drop a bunch of money, yeah, but the funding isn’t from them.
Like the Trump NFTs, or shoes, or bibles, or now the crypto currency/real estate scam. He gets a couple hundred regular joes to buy them up, but what really happens is the super wealthy buy them in massive quantities to get around campaign finance laws. Do they get hundreds of pairs of shoes? No, they make enough to satisfy the idiots on the street, but it’s just a scam to let his buddies give him more than the $5000 cap on campaign contributions. Once the money that supposed to go toward tacky bibles gets into his pocket, he can use it for whatever he wants, no limit to how much he can spend on his own campaign. But he has to make the cash somehow. Enter imaginary collectibles, pretend money, $3.00 gold lamé shoes.
The billionaires can not spend their money in a lifetime, so they will never run dry by putting millions into the politicians that will keep them raking it in.
Good points all around. Be that as it may, I keep urging the MAGAts on a local comment board to buy his crap and send him money.
🎯
While collecting honorarium.
Jesus didnt seem to say he felt like a victim. This guy cant seem to deal with being uncomfortable with his own feelings
Great point👍🏼
What I'm reading here is that he is not just a jerk to trans students but to students with a preferred nickname also. Some kids hate the name on their birth certificate. They may go by a middle name, initials, a derivative nickname or a different name altogether and are embarrassed every year when they start a new class and the teacher calls roll for the first time. Continuing to call them by that name is something a bully would do.
He is a conservative Christian AND a bully. Who would have thought?
He's just a straight up asshole. His religion gives him cover for his bigotry, misogyny, homophobic, xenophobic beliefs. Even without his bigotry, my guess is he's still an asshole.
Jesus never told us to feel bad for him or weaponized victimhood. These folk don’t know how to cope with uncomfortable feelings.
Who WOULDN'T have? 😝
I'd guess he's a hypocrite, and that the cis kids with nicknames don't have any problem in his class. Or at least, they didn't before he got two trans kids in his classes. Maybe he switched to 'no nicknames at all' at that point because he was afraid of being called out as a hypocrite, but really, does anyone seriously think this guy was 'no nicknames' 5 or 10 years ago?
No, absolutely not. Not in US. In Norway we seldom use nicknames, so here I would have believed it.
Can you hazard any guesses as to why nicknames are uncommon in Norway?
I lived in Costa Rica for a year in the 1980s. Nicknames were almost mandatory and often had nothing at all to do with someone’s name but often with a physical characteristic. For example, I had a student with a very prominent forehead (think Matt Gaetz). His nickname was Cartelera (billboard in English).
Well it's cultural, obviously. There are cultures in the world where extra unofficial names are the norm, and calling someone by their legal name is 'weird' behavior. There are cultures in the world that basically don't have them at all. And everything in between.
But *this* is not about culture. Right-wingers simply made up a new religious rule in the 2020s or late 2010s because they are bigoted against trans people, and they needed some paper-thin excuse to exercise their bigotry. There is not now, and there never has been, any cultural bias in the US against using nicknames. Using them isn't ubiquitous like it may be in some other places, but it's pretty common.
I completely agree.
I have no idea why nicknames are not use here. We just don't. Some get or take a nickname when a teenager, but it sedom stuck for long.
If I knew why nicknames are common other places, I might get an idea. Or I can do a serch for any paper on it.
A wild guess is that kids very, very, very seldom get the same first name as their parents, so my daughter named Straw Reader II would never appear here.
Thanks for your thoughts. I was the third son in my family. My oldest brother got a nickname in high school loosely based on our very unusual and difficult (at first encounter) surname. The second son was tagged with the same nickname in high school probably because the first son had gone off to college. I was just one year behind the second son so we were in the same school for 3 years. His nickname became “Big xxx” and I was dubbed “Little xxx”. (omitting the actual nickname to preserve anonymity).
No one ever accused my high school classmates of too much originality.
Jordan Cemek. Okay where to begin. So you wont respect Trans people? And that probably includes Queer people, Women, Minorities and the Disabled as well. And people's names are that way from birth. My parents named me Ellen Murphy. Yah well I don't feel like an Ellen or a Murphy or a Woman most of the time. Jordan I'm going to Hell? You first. I don't judge others. Not even Jesus did that. People like you Jordan disgust the f out of me.
Jesus didn’t seem to behave or say he felt like a victim. If I feel uncomfortable I need to deal with that. Not try to change the whole world around me so i never have to deal with anything different.
"A kid can go outside and know he won't tip over because gravity is a real thing."
Jordhole.Can I call you Jordhole? I don't give a fuck, I'll call you Jordhole anyway. You obviously don't know anything about gravity. Surprise! Gravity is constantly trying to make you tip over. Your brain (if you have one) and nerves and bones and muscles are the things that make you NOT tip over. Moron.
I've tipped over lots of times.
I've got tinnitus and bad dizziness. We took our granddaughter to the Renaissance Fair for Princess Day. I looked like I was sucking Mead down all day stumbling all over the place. 🤪 Gravity is a bitch sometimes.
Yeah, me too. Currently nursing a torn meniscus, which I got from, er, tripping over. Over a pile of books. Because, unfortunately, that's how gravity works. Because wishes aren't a thing.
Add to that the lack of toes.
Me too. And I have a recorded history of three episodes of tripping over AND getting serious concussions.
Were you tipsy at the time? ;)
Am I the only one who thought larry parker was referring to being drunk? One time during Covid I woke up around 3 am outside on my concrete patio. I must have tipped over.
ETA: Ah, I just reread Lisa59’s comment about mead.
The scariest (or most amusing) thing about that comment is realizing that that was his 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑑 remark.
I have got all that and I am vertically challenged 🤣
In re: "vertically callenged": a week or so ago, I had to admonish my therapist for referring to me as "differently abled." I informed her, in no uncertain terms, that I'm a crip. (And as I learned a couple of decades ago, as a Queer Nation alum, queer.)
Happens to the shortest of us...
I’m not short. Everybody else is tall. ;)
Yup.
Ahem.
Finally someone I can tower over. :D
2 someones, DM is two inches taller than me :D
The species is obviously in trouble, it's suffering from gigantism.
But gravity isn't real. It's only a THEORY.
> "It's only a THEORY."
Ha! I'm not falling for that.
You have a down to earth sense of humor.
Heavy.
And the secret to flying is to miss the ground.
Yea. My first reaction was that I hope he doesn't teach science.
He’s also a tipping truther.
"𝘔𝘺 𝘪𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦: 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘰 𝘢 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥."
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I'ma go out on a limb and suggest that a hypocritical, bigoted liar perhaps isn't the best herald for that particular message.
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"𝘛𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘜.𝘚., 𝘴𝘵𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘯𝘹𝘪𝘦𝘵𝘺, 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘳, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘶𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘥𝘦."
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Gee, I wonder fucking why. Here's a clue: the answer is to be found in your bathroom mirror!
...it's you. The answer is you.
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"𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘹, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘳𝘦𝘣𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘧𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴."
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It starts with behaving like a decent human being and treating the children in your care with kindness and compassion.
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"𝘖𝘶𝘳 𝘬𝘪𝘥𝘴 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘶𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦. 𝘈 𝘬𝘪𝘥 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘨𝘰 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘵𝘪𝘱 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘢 𝘭𝘰𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘬𝘪𝘥𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦."
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There is a lot of fear and worry because kids are unsure whether or not the adults in their lives are going to accept them for who they are, provide them with a world that is stable, safe, and above all 𝘩𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦, or just let them straight up get murdered at their school desk by some incel shithead armed like he's going to war. The answers you are providing them with are no, no, and yes, in that order- and that means 𝘺𝘰𝘶 are the problem. You can solve it by staying as far away from children as humanly possible.
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"𝘍𝘶𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦, 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘮 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘸𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘹𝘦𝘴: 𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘦."
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Maybe go down the hall and talk to a biology teacher about that one.
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"𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰 𝘳𝘰𝘰𝘮 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘥𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘖𝘶𝘳 𝘊𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘺."
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Ah, I see the root of the issue now... you thought you were teaching 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘺 school, not 𝘩𝘪𝘨𝘩 school! Glad we could clear that up.
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"𝘏𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘧 𝘶𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘩, 𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘦, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺. 𝘛𝘰 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘺 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘢𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯."
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"Dignity" - You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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"𝘎𝘰𝘥 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘭𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘧𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨."
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You're right, he didn't make any mistakes... because he doesn't exist. You're projecting your own bigotry onto a fictional character in your favorite storybook as if it somehow excuses you being a shitty human being. It doesn't. That book of yours mentions gender identity precisely not even once. The hate is aaaaaalll yours on this one, chucklefuck.
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"𝘐 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘐 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘴𝘦𝘹𝘶𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘰𝘱𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘪𝘯 𝘑𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘴, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘖𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘦, 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘩𝘪𝘮."
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*Jesus,* will you listen to yourself? "*I* desire; *I* disagree." Your profession is not about what *you* want, fuckbrain. Those kids are not your property, and *you* don't get to decree who they are or what they believe in- you arrogant little shit.
Brava, Joan. You are wonderful at responding to these bigots, but it saddens me that you have to be. They tell us gay men (especially drag queens) are pedophiles and trans women are delusional. I suppose it's a millimeter of progress that they now know there's a difference between a drag queen and a trans woman.
What gets me is that they haven't told an original lie about any of us in centuries. It's all the same material; they just... switch around some of the words now and then to re-target the bullshit when they start losing that part of the culture war. Plug'n'play propaganda. They're filling out a bigotry 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳.
𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘬𝘦𝘦𝘱𝘴 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘩𝘰𝘸.
Pure hate salad.
We know who the groomers are. The only thing drag queen artists groom are their eyebrows.
And their FABULOUS wigs!
Good one!
FAKE NEWS!
I also groom my cat.
🤣🤣🤣
“God didn’t make mistakes”
What the ACTUAL FUCK did you think the Flood was about, you brain dead moron??
And then he feels a pang of remorse, and promises not to drown the whole world again, which sure seems to indicate that he thought he'd made a 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 by Doing a Genocide (again). At least, doing it with water, anyway. Maybe he thought his 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 was not using fire instead.
He also made the core of his favorite planet and the critical element in his pet creation's blood-oxygen cycle iron, which per his own admission he's fucking allergic to, so... there's that.
So Yahweh is a fae?
Nah, fae at least honor their deals, even if they frequently screw you on the technicalities. That's more of a "buyer beware" situation, though, and it's not like the 𝘧𝘢𝘦 created an entire species just to torture and murder them on alternate Tuesdays.
Which means the only creatures he created are horseshoe crabs.
It wasn't really a mistake. God lied when he said he regretted making people to hide the fact that he's a cruel monster that gets off on causing suffering.
If he didn't, then he is either very cruel or has a warped sense of humor.
None of which makes it worthy of worship, except to death cults or doomsday cults.
And they are too stupid to see that neither of which are good things.
My employer has a DEI component to our annual performance reviews, which I support in theory but hate in bureaucratic reality. We are supposed to engage in 2 DEI activities per year. And the easiest way to do so is to attend a couple of programs put on by various employee groups (LGBTQ, veterans, and a handful of others). Now, I’m not much of a joiner and I’m close to retirement and just want to be left alone to do my work and I don’t think I really need a lot of consciousness raising, so one year I went to only 1 program. My manager asked me if I was sure I hadn’t gone to two. And I told him I have a trans son, I go to the Pride Festival and give money to the drag queens, and I argue online with bigots. Long pause. He said, “I’d say that counts.”
Good for him!
He is really asking for all kinds of old school instruction.
A thousand-upvote-worthy!!!!
“Throughout the U.S., students are showing increased signs of anxiety, fear, and attempted suicide. The solution is complex, but it starts with rebuilding a foundation of morality and truth on which to build our lives. Our kids need stability and security, and that comes from unchanging truths that have existed since the beginning of time.“
Bullshit. They’ve been anxious, fearful, and suicidal because fucksticks like you attack them for being even just a little bit different. You attack people for expressing the best parts of themselves, like Gus Walz. Or for liking something you personally don’t like. Or for being who they are most comfortable being. I’m sure you have no difficulty calling Robert, Bob, or Amanda, Mandy. I bet you even would play along with the big jock guy going by his teammates’ nickname for him, like a guy at my school who went by Deuce, I don’t remember his actual name, because of a sports achievement he made in his youth. Being unsure of life is just life, no one is ever sure of anything. But trying to pigeonhole reality into a worldview that it truly doesn’t fit, like Christianity and especially the ideas of only male and female when intersex people have existed from the first Homo sapiens and probably before, only causes more doubt and insecurity. What does help is adults in their life providing security while the children are unsure. People who care about their well-being and safety while they are exploring the unknown. Not people who should have their backs criticizing them, bullying them, and treating them like second class citizens.
Your ignorance is highlighted by this idiotic statement. “A kid can go outside and know he won't tip over because gravity is a real thing.”. You’re a schoolteacher and you say this shit?!? You tip over because gravity works, floating away is what would cause concern over gravity. Even if you would have agreed to treating transgender students respectfully, you shouldn’t be in a position to teach them.
Not to mention ALLLLLLL of those school shootings that his kind keeps encouraging by refusing ANY form of gun control.
Refusing gun control, mental healthcare, a strong middle class, economic prosperity, and promoting toxic traits as true masculinity, and a sense of entitlement in teenage boys.
Sensible gun control is the priority, but addressing all the other issues are still a part of the solution. They talk about looking into some of them, but are not willing to do more than pay lip service.
Like the assholes who went after Gus Walz and then were like 'Oh, I didn't know he was autistic', when called out on it.
Sorry, but shaming a boy for showing any emotion but anger really pisses me off.
I was struck by how this man believes that gravity only happens when you step outside, and without it you would tip over (not float off?). If he wants truth, could we start with some real basics?
Forty years in kindergarten still isn’t enough to instill the basics in him.
He's the product of a fundy education.