Dipped below 50%? This is the 21st Century. That number is still way too high. Grown adults have no excuse for continuing to believe in Bronze Age fairy tales in 2023 in the face of the total lack of evidence to support any such beliefs.
YECs believe in a 6 - 10,000 year old Earth. The Clovis People used a land bridge in Asia and Siberia to cross over to what is now North America 13,000 to 15,000 years ago.
It was long thought a fringe theory but it seems to be true. There was another site on the west coast found in the 70's maybe who was deemed dubious, I don't remember the name. It started again recently with some founds in Central America who predate Clovis.
I know that Canadian scientists Lauriane Burgeon and Ariane Burke studied the jawbone of a horse found in the Yukon Bluefish Caves and determined it was 24,000 years old.
Ive never hear a 50k figure. It keeps getting pushed back but seems to be about 20 - 23k at the moment. Really good video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnrdCdGs7o
I tell them that the oldest known forest in the world is just outside of Cairo (New York, not Egypt). The root system for that forest is 385 million years old.
It seems to me as though there has become a dichotomy in most western religions and Christianity in particular, between what they SAY and what they DO. We hear about how much Jesus loves us and that "He Gets Us" and all this extraneous flummery. Then we see how they act, particularly toward the most vulnerable among us – the poor, the disempowered, the BIPOC and LGBTQ+ communities – and we recognize that all they're trying to do is shine us on.
Of course it won't. They can't be bothered to think, never mind think critically or skeptically or do the work it takes to fully grasp a situation or a concept. They want things quick and simplistic and easy to digest.
I'd like to see one of those in person. Our pride festival organizers specifically mention no nudity. "This is a FAMILY-FRIENDLY event". Like there's something wrong with families seeing natural bodies. (And a few not-so-natural, but oh, so pretty)
I would put it to you that the UK while under the guidance of the Laird was the Law. Of the world, at least for a time. And today one could still make a case for it to be a temple for the preservation and enlargement of those ill gotten financial gains. It's just that they aren't wearing as many funny hats!
For the last two centuries, the world looked toward "America, America" for inspiration and guidance into the future. Now that seems to be reversing. America looks to Europe for enlightenment and emancipation from the darkness and lunacy of religion.
If in America we can resist the Christian Nationalists from bringing us "the love of Jesus" at the barrel of an AR-15 long enough until the believers finally dwindle to an ineffectual minority, then civilization might have a chance.
As Nogodz reminds us below, religious belief is still way too high in England, and that goes double for the US. The damage (mental, physical, and cultural) caused by stateside batshit cray-crays is so extensive that even if churches and church leaders vanished tomorrow, the US, assuming it is able to shed its loonier right-wing element, would be working for the next several generations dealing with religious PTSD, helping abuse survivors, and trying to provide remedial education to children and young adults (the result of the religious right's relentless war on public education.)
Speaking of wars, I also don't see any way of reclaiming all the millions upon millions of military-grade weapons in private hands, by either persuasion or legislation. Gun nuttery goes waaaaaaaaaay beyond religious belief; it's fundamental to a gun nut's core identity. This doesn't even take into account all the ordinary people who have lost loved ones to mass shooters enabled by the US gun fetish. These poor folks will suffer that loss for the rest of their lives.
And what about the health care industry and all the women either killed or left permanently injured by religion's stranglehold on their doctors? What about the trans kids denied the means to live their best lives? What about families who have lost trans or LGBTQ+ loved ones to violence or suicide?
What about all the children systematically raped by religious leaders of every stripe? They need justice to begin with, and assured, effective support during their recovery and healing. That could take years, possibly even their entire lives.
The racism and misogyny so callously and renlentlessly stoked by the right isn't going anywhere soon either. Not that these did not exist before, but the religious right wing has made it infinitely worse and far more dangerous. It will take generations of concerted effort through education and reaching out to get even a few bigots to change their views on "those Other people."
I realize the list is extensive, far too extensive to enumerate everything here, and far too depressing to do more than scratch the surface, but everything I've mentioned can be laid squarely at the feet of christianity.
Christians have mountain upon mountain of crimes against humanity to answer for. The kicker is, I don't think they will ever get so much as a slap on the wrist.
Religion and morality do not exclude each other, but they are far from the same thing. This is in part because religion is so difficult to define, and can mean very different things to different people. I think the majority of all people want the world to be better than it is, regardless of their religion. It's the people who believe the world can only be made better if their particular religion in imposed on everyone, who terrify me.
Sanity is beginning to affect the population. Especially younger folks who are tired of listening to these pompous jackholes rant about sin, Hell, LGBT and all the other crazy hateful bullshit they spew.
Oh, and I'm sure the constant exhortations to give money has something to do with it.
They're also sick of the "thoughts and prayers" that accompany yet another ghastly mass shooting, especially ones where children are among the victims.
And let's not forget all the natural disasters wrought by climate change. Where is this god?
Ah gee...I had managed to forget all about Fartwell. He was the one I despised the most during the Ray-gun Regime. He seemed to be in the news or on TV every time I turned around.
As Carlin said "This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude."
OT: When looking up the Falwell quote, the page contained this gem from the Ghoul of Kolkatta (FB)
"We need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness. God is the friend of silence. See how nature - trees, flowers, grass- grows in silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence... We need silence to be able to touch souls."
To my recollection, when nature is silent, some bad shit is about to go down.
Merde, alors! Is it THAT HARD to render simple respect? Oh, wait, if we're talking about evangelicals or Catholics ... for them, it's borderline impossible.
---the teacher – whose name is withheld – cited bible verses.---
I've read the bible more than once, and I'm damned if I can remember any verses about trans people. But like a Rorschach inkblot the bible can mean anything you want it to, I guess.
Thing is, they say they didn't want to call a girl by a boys name, so how do they cope with those names which are indeterminate, or which have changed over the years. Vivian for instance was a guys name for a long time. Evelyn? Harper? Avery? Logan? Admittedly these are not common in NZ but there must be some ... Ah – Madison.
Algebra was easy. Calculus was a challenge and Numerical Methods was a freaking nightmare. Took me two different versions and 3 tries to pass that damn class.
Ah. I saw that a few centuries ago, but I can't say It has stuck in my memory.
Have I ever mentioned that the script was by an old friend of mine, Leigh Brackett? She said working for Lucas was the worst screenwriting experience she'd ever had. He'd change his mind on a daily basis about where he wanted the story to go. In particular he'd keep changing whether Luke or Solo would get the princess. Kind of gives the lie to the claim he had all 683 stories fixed in his mind when he started the whole thing, eh?
In primary schools it's called playtime. It used to be that everyone was entitled to a roughly 10 minute break at mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Neoliberal politics buggered that. But it still exists in schools. The sacred tea break.
Russell Howard. The Pythons. Rick Edwards. Stephen Fry. Fish and chips. Derek Jacobi. Ian McKellen. Russell T. Davies. French and Saunders. Joe Locke and Kit Conner on Heartstopper. Olivia Colman. Samuel Barnett...and on and on and on.
"The bridge between the two hemispheres of the human brain is to allow them to communicate" (Or something like that, it was more than twenty years ago).
Given how popular he was, I bet a lot of people think I should have included John le Carre as well; however, I don't think he belongs on the list since I only read one of his books. It was about a spy...and it left me rather cold. *cymbal crash*
Says Tony Jerkins, virulent racist and Christian who once paid Grand Wizard David Duke big bank for Duke's mailing list, not to mention standing in front of a Confederate flag while speaking to a Klan group in Louisiana.
As I said the last time someone made this stupid argument, blackface is used to reinforce unjust barriers, while drag is about breaking them down- with fabulous, glitter-glazed sledgehammers. Drag queens (and kings!) have been at the forefront of the fight for LGBTQ rights since the very beginning; we'd all be far worse off in this shitty world without their contributions.
Which, I'm sure, is one of the main reasons the Nazis hate them so much.
Well it was Drag Queens and Trans women (There wasn't much distinction between the two at the time) who started fighting back at Stonewall as I remember my LGBT history.
I'm beginning to think the only way to get the complacent masses to listen is to riot. Maybe that's the women's problem, they haven't had a good riot in a while.
Laura Ingrahm said it many times on her show, calling Drag, womanface. They’ve tried cultural appropriation as well, trying to find the catchphrase that will work and defame the folks on the left who are trying to eliminate white male supremacy.
Happy Juneteenth, everyone.
*NoGodz waves red/yellow/green flag*
Celebrating the dismantling of a barbaric institution that good Christians in the Confederacy fought so hard to retain.
The SBC is still striving to bring back the right to own other human beings.
They still fight to control women's bodies and keep children in chains to ignorance.
There are good people who are Christians. Probably a lot of them. I'm not convinced there are good Christians.
Politically correct "wokeism" on display, ladies and gentlemen/s.
Damned uppity nigras. How dare they demand to be treated like human beings instead of cattle? :S
Dipped below 50%? This is the 21st Century. That number is still way too high. Grown adults have no excuse for continuing to believe in Bronze Age fairy tales in 2023 in the face of the total lack of evidence to support any such beliefs.
Look at the trees!
YECs believe in a 6 - 10,000 year old Earth. The Clovis People used a land bridge in Asia and Siberia to cross over to what is now North America 13,000 to 15,000 years ago.
The Devil planted that evidence, or something.
Wouldn't that mean Satan outsmarted YHVH...again?
I thought I heard that was at least the second migration. I thought there was one about 50k years ago.
It was long thought a fringe theory but it seems to be true. There was another site on the west coast found in the 70's maybe who was deemed dubious, I don't remember the name. It started again recently with some founds in Central America who predate Clovis.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-humans-came-to-americas-180973739/
I know that Canadian scientists Lauriane Burgeon and Ariane Burke studied the jawbone of a horse found in the Yukon Bluefish Caves and determined it was 24,000 years old.
Ive never hear a 50k figure. It keeps getting pushed back but seems to be about 20 - 23k at the moment. Really good video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnrdCdGs7o
I still get that one from folks
I tell them that the oldest known forest in the world is just outside of Cairo (New York, not Egypt). The root system for that forest is 385 million years old.
"Flawed dating methods. No tree is more than a couple of thousand years old. They can't be older than the flood."
This from a belief system that says 3 = 1 and 1 = 3.
That would explain why their Jesus seems to have so many problems with money.
Ginkgo Biloba, ferns, Coelacanth...
Keith Richards...
He is only 79, Compay Segundo died at 95 😁
https://earthsky.org/earth/oldest-forest-new-york-fossil-trees/
Yup.
Frozen waterfalls, too, apparently.
And don't the true believers insist that Noah was around 900 years old when he built the ark?
600. You're thinking of Methuselah.
600 fucking years old. Aided in building that boat by his equally ancient sons. Why do people still believe this balloon juice?
Duly noted.
Well, it beats prune juice, I guess. *smiles*
Hey, I drink prune juice every day. Not so bad. :)
Twelve hours and no reply in Klingon yet: someone is slipping. I wouldn't understand it anyway.
Prune juice IS a warrior's drink, after all. :)
For me, drinking it is usually accompanied by a shout of QAPLA'!
Years were much shorter back then.
It seems to me as though there has become a dichotomy in most western religions and Christianity in particular, between what they SAY and what they DO. We hear about how much Jesus loves us and that "He Gets Us" and all this extraneous flummery. Then we see how they act, particularly toward the most vulnerable among us – the poor, the disempowered, the BIPOC and LGBTQ+ communities – and we recognize that all they're trying to do is shine us on.
And we're not having any.
According to the fundies, this should make the UK a hellhole of lawlessness. The fact that it is not should give them pause. To bad it won't.
Of course it won't. They can't be bothered to think, never mind think critically or skeptically or do the work it takes to fully grasp a situation or a concept. They want things quick and simplistic and easy to digest.
Heaven forfend they should get a bellyache. 😝
It's why they cling so tightly to the notion that "Christian = good" no matter how many examples we provide showing that it just ain't so.
With one mass shooting every hour like in France.
We just had a mass shooting at a music festival in the central part of my state on Saturday. 2 dead, 3 wounded.
Cripes, will it never end?
Your country doesn't have enough open carry laws 🙄
My state recently enacted 5 tough laws against assault rifles. And this STILL happened.
Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the murder's motivation.
https://www.seattletimes.com/news/2-dead-3-hurt-in-shooting-at-the-gorge-during-electronic-music-festival/
That's the one. Went from being Woodstock to Altamont.
Looks like they got the perp alive....be interesting to hear the motive.
Turns out he got shot himself (a deputy shot him, maybe)?
He's alive? I did some digging. So far, that haven't released his name, but the fact that he's alive tells me he's not a person of color.
Not if Jesus can help it. Jesus loves guns.
Pistol swords?
(Nah. Too early. Pistol swords were around in the 17th and 18th Centuries.)
Washington is home to this delightful festival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs6osKFd9lQ
I'll take the naked bike riders at the Fremont Solstice Parade near me.
I'd like to see one of those in person. Our pride festival organizers specifically mention no nudity. "This is a FAMILY-FRIENDLY event". Like there's something wrong with families seeing natural bodies. (And a few not-so-natural, but oh, so pretty)
Lots of fun. Been there many a time (though not this year. The weather was cool and wet early in the morning).
I would put it to you that the UK while under the guidance of the Laird was the Law. Of the world, at least for a time. And today one could still make a case for it to be a temple for the preservation and enlargement of those ill gotten financial gains. It's just that they aren't wearing as many funny hats!
For the last two centuries, the world looked toward "America, America" for inspiration and guidance into the future. Now that seems to be reversing. America looks to Europe for enlightenment and emancipation from the darkness and lunacy of religion.
If in America we can resist the Christian Nationalists from bringing us "the love of Jesus" at the barrel of an AR-15 long enough until the believers finally dwindle to an ineffectual minority, then civilization might have a chance.
Oh, I think civilization will rise from the ashes of the US, eventually.
Life itself, if not actual civilization, bounced back from the Permian extinction.
And more and more Americans are looking to Europe for an understanding of the ways untethered capitalism hinders social and political progress.
As Nogodz reminds us below, religious belief is still way too high in England, and that goes double for the US. The damage (mental, physical, and cultural) caused by stateside batshit cray-crays is so extensive that even if churches and church leaders vanished tomorrow, the US, assuming it is able to shed its loonier right-wing element, would be working for the next several generations dealing with religious PTSD, helping abuse survivors, and trying to provide remedial education to children and young adults (the result of the religious right's relentless war on public education.)
Speaking of wars, I also don't see any way of reclaiming all the millions upon millions of military-grade weapons in private hands, by either persuasion or legislation. Gun nuttery goes waaaaaaaaaay beyond religious belief; it's fundamental to a gun nut's core identity. This doesn't even take into account all the ordinary people who have lost loved ones to mass shooters enabled by the US gun fetish. These poor folks will suffer that loss for the rest of their lives.
And what about the health care industry and all the women either killed or left permanently injured by religion's stranglehold on their doctors? What about the trans kids denied the means to live their best lives? What about families who have lost trans or LGBTQ+ loved ones to violence or suicide?
What about all the children systematically raped by religious leaders of every stripe? They need justice to begin with, and assured, effective support during their recovery and healing. That could take years, possibly even their entire lives.
The racism and misogyny so callously and renlentlessly stoked by the right isn't going anywhere soon either. Not that these did not exist before, but the religious right wing has made it infinitely worse and far more dangerous. It will take generations of concerted effort through education and reaching out to get even a few bigots to change their views on "those Other people."
I realize the list is extensive, far too extensive to enumerate everything here, and far too depressing to do more than scratch the surface, but everything I've mentioned can be laid squarely at the feet of christianity.
Christians have mountain upon mountain of crimes against humanity to answer for. The kicker is, I don't think they will ever get so much as a slap on the wrist.
Chicago had 3 mass shootings Saturday. One shooting left one dead and 23 injured.
JFC....it will never end.
"...we have failed to spread God’s message of unconditional love to all..."
But your churches do a damn good job of spreading the message that he loves some segments of "all''
a lot more than others.
Problem is simple: their actions speak so loudly, we can't hear what they're saying.
As I quoted below, his representative Jerry Falwell, Sr. showed us so much of God's love. If that's God's love, I'd rather he just ignore me.
Religion and morality do not exclude each other, but they are far from the same thing. This is in part because religion is so difficult to define, and can mean very different things to different people. I think the majority of all people want the world to be better than it is, regardless of their religion. It's the people who believe the world can only be made better if their particular religion in imposed on everyone, who terrify me.
There's alot of the people who terrify you out there. How to find them? One easy way is to look for red caps that say "MAGA."
Sanity is beginning to affect the population. Especially younger folks who are tired of listening to these pompous jackholes rant about sin, Hell, LGBT and all the other crazy hateful bullshit they spew.
Oh, and I'm sure the constant exhortations to give money has something to do with it.
They're also sick of the "thoughts and prayers" that accompany yet another ghastly mass shooting, especially ones where children are among the victims.
And let's not forget all the natural disasters wrought by climate change. Where is this god?
Earthquake or wildfires in California?
God is angwee at the gays or something.
Hurricanes, floods, tornados in the south?
Crickets. God couldn't possibly be angwee at his Perfect Followers!
AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals. - Jerry Falwell Sr.
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/jerry_falwell_388900
Ah gee...I had managed to forget all about Fartwell. He was the one I despised the most during the Ray-gun Regime. He seemed to be in the news or on TV every time I turned around.
Back in 1982, Perry Deane Young wrote a blistering account of this creep called "God's Bullies: Power, Politics and Religious Tyranny."
2 paragraphs gone. wHERE ARE THEY? mAYBE "tHE sHADOW kNOWS. FUCK IT. i AM TIRED OF CORRFSEC TING TYPOS."
Now he is finding out tht there is nothing after death. Sadly, he will not be able to realize it.
With your hands in the air and your knees on the ground
Try this prayer and repeat it, yeah
Your life will collapse
But it's nothing for priests
And you'll ask yourself
Where is my god?
Where is my god?
Where is my god?
Way out in the aether
See it fleeing
Contemplating his own greatness. It's time to vote for a replacement. It should probably go to someone who doesn't want it.
As Carlin said "This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude."
Christians: "Relativism is evil!"
Also Christians: "If God did it, then it's okay!"
So insane that we as mere humans are held to a much higher standard than their gods.
OT: When looking up the Falwell quote, the page contained this gem from the Ghoul of Kolkatta (FB)
"We need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness. God is the friend of silence. See how nature - trees, flowers, grass- grows in silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence... We need silence to be able to touch souls."
To my recollection, when nature is silent, some bad shit is about to go down.
Cowboy A: "It's quiet."
Cowboy 2: "Too quiet."
SFX: thud spoing.
Cowboy 2 falls towards camera to reveal arrow in back.
If he valued silence so much, why didn't he ever shut up?
He valued silence plenty - it was the best setting for his begging for money to be heard, after all!
Can we call this societal movement Crexit?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/132363081/teachers-registration-cancelled-for-hysterical-response-to-trans-student
Good!
Merde, alors! Is it THAT HARD to render simple respect? Oh, wait, if we're talking about evangelicals or Catholics ... for them, it's borderline impossible.
---the teacher – whose name is withheld – cited bible verses.---
I've read the bible more than once, and I'm damned if I can remember any verses about trans people. But like a Rorschach inkblot the bible can mean anything you want it to, I guess.
Thing is, they say they didn't want to call a girl by a boys name, so how do they cope with those names which are indeterminate, or which have changed over the years. Vivian for instance was a guys name for a long time. Evelyn? Harper? Avery? Logan? Admittedly these are not common in NZ but there must be some ... Ah – Madison.
Pat. (Old SNL skit.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TYkjXMpKBBQ
Julia Sweeney, when pressed for an answer, finally admitted that Pat was a girl. :)
Camille ?
My analogy is always the dark side cave on Dagobah (yeah, I'm geek, haven't you been paying attention :). You only find there what you take with you.
You baffle me. (Not that that's hard to do. You should see me with algebra.)
Algebra was easy. Calculus was a challenge and Numerical Methods was a freaking nightmare. Took me two different versions and 3 tries to pass that damn class.
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back reference.
Ah. I saw that a few centuries ago, but I can't say It has stuck in my memory.
Have I ever mentioned that the script was by an old friend of mine, Leigh Brackett? She said working for Lucas was the worst screenwriting experience she'd ever had. He'd change his mind on a daily basis about where he wanted the story to go. In particular he'd keep changing whether Luke or Solo would get the princess. Kind of gives the lie to the claim he had all 683 stories fixed in his mind when he started the whole thing, eh?
Genesis "Male et femelle il les créa"*. Too tired and lazy to translate.
* Not sure of the exact phrasing, it's the one mythology book I never read.
"He said the student’s transition presents a risk they will also become homosexual."
He fails to explain why this is a problem.
It's no different than calling a Robert, Bob when requested. It's rude at a minimum.
The Robert/Bob/Rob/Bert etc., is my go-to for this kind of BS.
One time I maneuvered someone into saying that Samantha could go by Sam if she was cis but couldn’t go by Sam if he was trans.
Besides the obvious “good”, I really liked the part about the student and the teacher meeting during “morning tea”.
In primary schools it's called playtime. It used to be that everyone was entitled to a roughly 10 minute break at mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Neoliberal politics buggered that. But it still exists in schools. The sacred tea break.
I love it.
I guess the Council wanted to issue a warning to other "Righteous" teachers to keep their religion out of their students' lives.
Either that or they felt they needed some positive press.
It's too redacted to be useful as just a report.
Good. May the skin-sack-of-shit starve.
I knew there was something good about that country besides Helen Mirren, Alfred Hitchcock, Agatha Christie and delicious English muffins! *smiles*
Russell Howard. The Pythons. Rick Edwards. Stephen Fry. Fish and chips. Derek Jacobi. Ian McKellen. Russell T. Davies. French and Saunders. Joe Locke and Kit Conner on Heartstopper. Olivia Colman. Samuel Barnett...and on and on and on.
And don't forget Monty Python!
One word, Led Zeppelin.
The Who?
I liked "Two Ronnies" several years ago.
Reagan Jr. and Sr.? 🤪
'Allo, 'Allo, Good Neighbours, Agony, Blackadder...
Doctor Who. Red Dwarf. Blake's 7.
Terry Pratchett, Douglas Adams, Mary Shelley, Virginia Woolf, William M-F-ing Shakespeare...
Chaucer.
Or, as one kid in the Eng. Lit. class I taught pronounced it, Godfrey Cancer. (And so help me, he wasn't kidding.)
🤬
And weirdly he wasn't the dumbest, most clueless kid in the class. (This is America, remember.)
See years ago in "Les pépites du bac"
"The bridge between the two hemispheres of the human brain is to allow them to communicate" (Or something like that, it was more than twenty years ago).
Alan Rickman? :)
An unconscionable omission on my part. My sincere apologies. *smiles*
Who be he?
The Metatron, the Sheriff of Nottingham, Severus Snape, Hans Grueber. Just to name a few of his roles.
Dr. Lazarus in Galaxy Quest.
By Grabthar's Hammer...
...You shall be avenged.
"I'm gonna cut your heart out with a spoon!"
He be this guy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Rickman
The villain in the first Die Hard movie.
Given how popular he was, I bet a lot of people think I should have included John le Carre as well; however, I don't think he belongs on the list since I only read one of his books. It was about a spy...and it left me rather cold. *cymbal crash*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CdVTCDdEwI
John le Carre humor: I think I've invented a new thing! *raises arm to pat myself on back*
How do you manage at night?
The real takeaway from this is...
𝘞𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘰, 𝘚𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘒𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘢!
Haha! Screw you, Charlie! Get a real job and save yourself!
O/T: Hate Group: Drag Is The Left’s Version Of Blackface - Via email from the Family Research Council coming from JoeMyGod
https://www.joemygod.com/2023/06/hate-group-drag-is-the-lefts-version-of-blackface/
"The over-the-top make-up is still the mainstay of the show, an unattractive, clown-like façade that no woman would ever wear."
18th century, works for the wigs too.
Hey Fucktard Rotten Core you want to know what I find offensive ? Men who dare to speak for me, anti abortion and anti LGBTQI+ laws.
Says Tony Jerkins, virulent racist and Christian who once paid Grand Wizard David Duke big bank for Duke's mailing list, not to mention standing in front of a Confederate flag while speaking to a Klan group in Louisiana.
A man whose reputation is above reproach. :S
As I said the last time someone made this stupid argument, blackface is used to reinforce unjust barriers, while drag is about breaking them down- with fabulous, glitter-glazed sledgehammers. Drag queens (and kings!) have been at the forefront of the fight for LGBTQ rights since the very beginning; we'd all be far worse off in this shitty world without their contributions.
Which, I'm sure, is one of the main reasons the Nazis hate them so much.
Well it was Drag Queens and Trans women (There wasn't much distinction between the two at the time) who started fighting back at Stonewall as I remember my LGBT history.
The "Nelly Queens" turned a police raid into a riot.
Stonewall. They'd had enough of the cops and fought back.
I'm beginning to think the only way to get the complacent masses to listen is to riot. Maybe that's the women's problem, they haven't had a good riot in a while.
Blackface was about making fun of black people. Drag isn't about making fun of women, it's about making fun of the sissy stereotype of gay men.
Yeah, we had that argument with an idiot a month or two ago.
Laura Ingrahm said it many times on her show, calling Drag, womanface. They’ve tried cultural appropriation as well, trying to find the catchphrase that will work and defame the folks on the left who are trying to eliminate white male supremacy.
She's a different idiot.