Feucht is claiming children are being sexualized and that perverts can't be allowed to indoctrinate them at age 4.
He's right, but not for the reasons he thinks. Children ARE being sexualized...by Christian clergy. All he needs to do is check the police blotters. Freethought Today has a section called Black Collar Crime in every issue. Guess which crime by the clergy is predominant?
And indoctrination from a very young age? That's Christianity's raison d'etre.
Allowing children to have knowledge regarding the existence of LGBTQ people and what it entails in an age appropriate manner is not sexualizing children. But, calling infants “ladykillers,” or discussing future marriage plans of toddlers, or setting up a “countdown till child celebrity is legal for me to fantasize about having sex with her” clocks, or gape mouthed staring as you drive extra slowly past teenaged girls, or even catcalling little girls, or complaining the shorts they’re wearing as you are a guest in a child’s home are causing you discomfort, or yeah, the preying on children in their congregations, is sexualizing children. Many of those things are normalized in our society, no one thinks about the implications of these things, they just think “how cute” or there’s nothing wrong with that decrepit old man being aroused by young flesh, she should know better. The problem is that LGBTQ challenges the status quo, the prominence of the male gaze, the deference of male predation.
"We've got an an enemy we need to fight. His name is Satan."
Your own "omnipotent" deity can't get rid of the enemy he himself created. What chance do you think mere humans stand? And as I recall from the Book of Job, YHVH treated Satan with deference and valued his opinion.
That's because Satan and God are pals...sitting up on a cloud, with piles of cans of Budweiser and Speight's....PRIDE OF THE SOUTH! making bets on how much pain they can inflict on poor Job.
Seriously, though, during the Holocaust, a bunch of Rabbis held at Auschwitz pondered their plight and decided to put God on trial. But who would defend Him?
The Rabbis' answer: Satan.
Without God, no Satan. Can't have evil without good.
Seriously, to me, they're better in dispensing advice than other religions...they talk about people and solving life problems, in keeping with the Jewish tradition of "tikkun olam," make the world we're in a better place, than Christians, who talk more about getting right with God and Christ so that we can have a good "next life."
Hey, Feucht, are you in prison for that rally? Did you face police actions against you for being near the mayor? Then your first amendment rights were not violated. The mayor was, rightly, chastised for her decision to promote your beliefs and political views in her capacity as mayor. Even if it was only about your Christianity, it is wrong for an elected official in their official capacity to promote your views. But it was beyond just that you are Christian, it’s about your violent rhetoric against citizens of Spokane, it’s about your desires to interfere in and end democracy in the city, state and nation.
Also, there are no immunities granted by the first amendment, you do not get a get out of jail free card for criminal behaviors couched in religion. The first amendment only guarantees your religion cannot become criminal. Dumbass.
There it is, people. The threat of violence if Feucht and Shea and their kind don't get their way. They want to say the quiet part out loud? 𝗦𝗢 𝗦𝗛𝗢𝗨𝗟𝗗 𝗪𝗘. Feucht and Shea and their followers need to understand that they are indulging in what amounts to a local insurrection, and they deserve to be treated as such. First and foremost, they need to be told, and the above Resolution is a good start. I would go a step further and confront both of them IN PERSON and deliver the message of that resolution. Secondly, if any evidence shows that either of them or their followers take so much as Step One toward realizing their "Rules of War," arrest warrants should be issued and executed.
They aren't kidding. They should know that we aren't, either.
Maybe I'm doing my best Pollyanna here, but I'd rather there were no "buts." I realize it's a ridiculously tall order, but if we can, to use the words of a guy I respect, "Avoid the danger that has not yet come," we go a long way not just to prevent bloodshed, but maybe get at least SOME of them that peaceful means ain't all that bad.
Yeah, yeah, I know: wishful thinking. Still, that's where I'm coming from.
Sounds like they're a threat...I know I feel threatened by their speech and actions. Fortunately, I live in a Stand Your Ground state,no should I see them coming towards my I don't have an obligation to retreat and do have the Right to 'neutralize' the threats. 🙂
Well, if they DO whack all the males except me, it means I finally get my chance with all the actresses and female newscasters upon whom I have unrelieved crushes.
Well, gee... nothing like co-opting the authority of the local government to lend weight to your prayer rally. Who's trying to push their agenda on 𝘸𝘩𝘰𝘮, you nitwits? And correct me if I'm wrong, but is that or is that not a 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥 standing with you on that stage? Doesn't look happy to be there, either. Might someone in your gaggle of goons be trying to... oh, what's the word for it... 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘰𝘤𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘦 children, hmm?
I was planning on being whimsical, but this is disturbing on so many levels! How is this clown not serving time for an environmental act of terrorism? And nearly everything else in this article. Sounds like the 'prey' over the mayor.
They just don't have the numbers to win a violent religious coup. So they're out there trying to convince Americans to give them power and hoping normal Americans don't realize what they're up to until it's too late.
If they get power, there will be mass graves, religious police, torture sites and inquisitors, and every horror that always happens when religion and State are united.
Somebody's probably already said this, but the idea of a fifty-first state just for Christians is excellent. As long as a very large fence is put round it.
My brother lived out there for a while (the Tri-Cities area?) and had not much good to say about it. And he was a true-blue GOP conservative back then. (Now he thinks the GOP is mostly crazy)
I lived in the tri-cities for about 9 months. It was very right wing. My in-laws live in Spokane, it’s pretty right wing as well, it’s a city but it’s still pretty rural. The university is just far enough away to not have an effect on the politics. I also lived on the coast for five years, two brothers in law live there (Olympia and Seattle/Tacoma) still. Where I was was conservative, but further north on I-5 was pretty progressive. Washington is a really good example of how rural and urban areas are divided politically.
It's as I said elsewhere. They're saying the quiet part out loud. We need to do the same. They say they want to undo democracy and install a theocratic regime. We need to 1) let them know that there's a price to pay for trying to do so and 2) EXACT THAT PRICE if they do try.
This is no time to be mealy-mouthed about the issue. If they want to throw it down, we need to be ready, willing, and able to throw it right back at 'em.
Semi-OT: Well, DARN. We had a right-wing troll here who thought he was going to stump us nasty woke leftists with his white-privilege diatribe, and I was all ready to provide what I thought was a pretty good rebuttal ... but all of a sudden, he went POOF!
Ain't that the truth. The other thing for me is Bagen's links are useless until I get home. *If* I care enough to get on FA after work. (So are about a quarter of meme sites and tinyurl)
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." -- Sinclair Lewis
I have nothing more to add to that statement that perfectly describes today's America.
I love that quote. Problem is that Lewis never said it, and snopes.com confirms this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinclair-lewis-on-fascism/
It's like Abraham Lincoln said- "never trust anything you hear on the internet."
Does it really matter who said it? It's true regardless.
Agreed. I just wonder if anyone actually SAID that or whether it was an assemblage that someone created or whatever... 🤷♂️
Damn. And I was sharing it as his... Oh well, at least what the message is is true.
Feucht is claiming children are being sexualized and that perverts can't be allowed to indoctrinate them at age 4.
He's right, but not for the reasons he thinks. Children ARE being sexualized...by Christian clergy. All he needs to do is check the police blotters. Freethought Today has a section called Black Collar Crime in every issue. Guess which crime by the clergy is predominant?
And indoctrination from a very young age? That's Christianity's raison d'etre.
Allowing children to have knowledge regarding the existence of LGBTQ people and what it entails in an age appropriate manner is not sexualizing children. But, calling infants “ladykillers,” or discussing future marriage plans of toddlers, or setting up a “countdown till child celebrity is legal for me to fantasize about having sex with her” clocks, or gape mouthed staring as you drive extra slowly past teenaged girls, or even catcalling little girls, or complaining the shorts they’re wearing as you are a guest in a child’s home are causing you discomfort, or yeah, the preying on children in their congregations, is sexualizing children. Many of those things are normalized in our society, no one thinks about the implications of these things, they just think “how cute” or there’s nothing wrong with that decrepit old man being aroused by young flesh, she should know better. The problem is that LGBTQ challenges the status quo, the prominence of the male gaze, the deference of male predation.
Let's not forget the example that is so appalling blatant, little miss beauty pageants.
"We've got an an enemy we need to fight. His name is Satan."
Your own "omnipotent" deity can't get rid of the enemy he himself created. What chance do you think mere humans stand? And as I recall from the Book of Job, YHVH treated Satan with deference and valued his opinion.
Worse, they can't substantiate either of the combatants, and they make up ALL SORTS OF EXCUSES why they can't.
It'd be laughable if the potential consequences of ignoring them weren't so horrid.
That's because Satan and God are pals...sitting up on a cloud, with piles of cans of Budweiser and Speight's....PRIDE OF THE SOUTH! making bets on how much pain they can inflict on poor Job.
Seriously, though, during the Holocaust, a bunch of Rabbis held at Auschwitz pondered their plight and decided to put God on trial. But who would defend Him?
The Rabbis' answer: Satan.
Without God, no Satan. Can't have evil without good.
Interesting idea...I don't know how it came out.
Rabbis are useful for something?
Besides selling body parts?
Seriously, to me, they're better in dispensing advice than other religions...they talk about people and solving life problems, in keeping with the Jewish tradition of "tikkun olam," make the world we're in a better place, than Christians, who talk more about getting right with God and Christ so that we can have a good "next life."
God might be weak enough to drink Budweiser only, but Satan, he will drink London Porter of course.
He should also drink New Zealand's great beer, Speight's....PRIDE OF THE SOUTH!
Spreight's Old Dark looks interesting. I guess it's not easy to get in Norway though.
No....it's a New Zealand beer. Sorry.
Hey, Feucht, are you in prison for that rally? Did you face police actions against you for being near the mayor? Then your first amendment rights were not violated. The mayor was, rightly, chastised for her decision to promote your beliefs and political views in her capacity as mayor. Even if it was only about your Christianity, it is wrong for an elected official in their official capacity to promote your views. But it was beyond just that you are Christian, it’s about your violent rhetoric against citizens of Spokane, it’s about your desires to interfere in and end democracy in the city, state and nation.
Also, there are no immunities granted by the first amendment, you do not get a get out of jail free card for criminal behaviors couched in religion. The first amendment only guarantees your religion cannot become criminal. Dumbass.
𝑖𝑣. 𝐼𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑦𝑖𝑒𝑙𝑑 – 𝑘𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑠.
There it is, people. The threat of violence if Feucht and Shea and their kind don't get their way. They want to say the quiet part out loud? 𝗦𝗢 𝗦𝗛𝗢𝗨𝗟𝗗 𝗪𝗘. Feucht and Shea and their followers need to understand that they are indulging in what amounts to a local insurrection, and they deserve to be treated as such. First and foremost, they need to be told, and the above Resolution is a good start. I would go a step further and confront both of them IN PERSON and deliver the message of that resolution. Secondly, if any evidence shows that either of them or their followers take so much as Step One toward realizing their "Rules of War," arrest warrants should be issued and executed.
They aren't kidding. They should know that we aren't, either.
yep, avoid blood shed...but..
Maybe I'm doing my best Pollyanna here, but I'd rather there were no "buts." I realize it's a ridiculously tall order, but if we can, to use the words of a guy I respect, "Avoid the danger that has not yet come," we go a long way not just to prevent bloodshed, but maybe get at least SOME of them that peaceful means ain't all that bad.
Yeah, yeah, I know: wishful thinking. Still, that's where I'm coming from.
Hear, hear!
Sounds like they're a threat...I know I feel threatened by their speech and actions. Fortunately, I live in a Stand Your Ground state,no should I see them coming towards my I don't have an obligation to retreat and do have the Right to 'neutralize' the threats. 🙂
Well, if they DO whack all the males except me, it means I finally get my chance with all the actresses and female newscasters upon whom I have unrelieved crushes.
After all, I'd be the only one left...
As a female, I know how to please myself, most women do. So I guess it would not improve your chance, unless they wanted to reproduce.
Well, gee... nothing like co-opting the authority of the local government to lend weight to your prayer rally. Who's trying to push their agenda on 𝘸𝘩𝘰𝘮, you nitwits? And correct me if I'm wrong, but is that or is that not a 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥 standing with you on that stage? Doesn't look happy to be there, either. Might someone in your gaggle of goons be trying to... oh, what's the word for it... 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘰𝘤𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘦 children, hmm?
𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 accusation is a confession.
Joan, you know they will correct you anyway, especially when you are right, because you are a female and not a human in god's image.
I was planning on being whimsical, but this is disturbing on so many levels! How is this clown not serving time for an environmental act of terrorism? And nearly everything else in this article. Sounds like the 'prey' over the mayor.
As long as it's nothing but TALK, they'll likely continue to get away with it. Still ... I would watch them like a hawk.
Truthfully, this guy is pretty scary.
"thousands of citizens who joined together yesterday to pray for fire victims and first responders"
IOW, did nothing to actually help anyone.
They made themselves feel better. It made them 𝑓𝑒𝑒𝑙 like they had done something substantive. 🙄
"Sean Feucht is now retaliating."
What happened to "turn the other cheek?" Seems I read that somewhere.
They are the Taliban.
They just don't have the numbers to win a violent religious coup. So they're out there trying to convince Americans to give them power and hoping normal Americans don't realize what they're up to until it's too late.
If they get power, there will be mass graves, religious police, torture sites and inquisitors, and every horror that always happens when religion and State are united.
And the US will become Gilead, 𝑑𝑒-𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑜 if not in actual name.
Somebody's probably already said this, but the idea of a fifty-first state just for Christians is excellent. As long as a very large fence is put round it.
Then nuke it from orbit. The only way to be certain.
Feucht is an A+ asshole. No, no A’s given here. He gets an F for fucknut. I’ve been to Spokane. The holy land it isn’t. 🙄
I've never been east of the Cascades within my state and have no desire to ever do so.
My brother lived out there for a while (the Tri-Cities area?) and had not much good to say about it. And he was a true-blue GOP conservative back then. (Now he thinks the GOP is mostly crazy)
I lived in the tri-cities for about 9 months. It was very right wing. My in-laws live in Spokane, it’s pretty right wing as well, it’s a city but it’s still pretty rural. The university is just far enough away to not have an effect on the politics. I also lived on the coast for five years, two brothers in law live there (Olympia and Seattle/Tacoma) still. Where I was was conservative, but further north on I-5 was pretty progressive. Washington is a really good example of how rural and urban areas are divided politically.
He is right.
Crazier than Jim Carrey on acid.
From the Inlander article and from one of the council members debating the resolution:
“When we say ‘known anti-LGBTQ extremist Sean Feucht,’ I think that we could be in trouble for defamatory statements,” Bingle said before the vote.
Bingle added that he used to be a worship minister who traveled to different cities to hold events.
“If their city council then said, ‘known anti-LGBTQ extremist Jonathan Bingle,’ I would sue the pants off of them so quickly,” Bingle said.
It's not defemination if it's true. I don't know if it's true for Bingle but it's definitely true for Feucht.
It's as I said elsewhere. They're saying the quiet part out loud. We need to do the same. They say they want to undo democracy and install a theocratic regime. We need to 1) let them know that there's a price to pay for trying to do so and 2) EXACT THAT PRICE if they do try.
This is no time to be mealy-mouthed about the issue. If they want to throw it down, we need to be ready, willing, and able to throw it right back at 'em.
String the traitors up by their thumbs and let the birds finish the job.
But calling a bigot a bigot is the 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 bigotry, dont'cha know?
Reverse bigotry.
"...a Christian Nationalist and a domestic terrorist—to be clear, those were two separate people..."
So, one Christian Nationalist domestic terrorist and one domestic terrorist Christian Nationalist?
"The Rules of War" is just one reason the Key Founders said NO! to religion holding power.
Semi-OT: Well, DARN. We had a right-wing troll here who thought he was going to stump us nasty woke leftists with his white-privilege diatribe, and I was all ready to provide what I thought was a pretty good rebuttal ... but all of a sudden, he went POOF!
Oh, well ... 😁
Awww, too bad I missed it. That’s the risk of actually working while at your job.
Ain't that the truth. The other thing for me is Bagen's links are useless until I get home. *If* I care enough to get on FA after work. (So are about a quarter of meme sites and tinyurl)
Sorry, I didn't see your comment before. Check your emails.
Send me one too, please.
I have a screenshot if you want to play.
Merci beaucoup, my friend. It's no big thing.
Tant mieux. Except for spamming him with "January 6th" comments, I am not sure there was a lot of fun to have.
How did you read my comment even though I didn't post it?
Simple min... No, share... Zut, j'chais plus.
*Trying to get in touch with Whoiswoke, the non assholes collective brain*
Saw it. I accidently upvoted him. The upvote was quickly removed.
I saw his posting history (such as it was) before he went bye-bye. We aren't missing anything.
For once I didn't check. His comment was explicit enough.