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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I do not understand why anyone listens to preachers like Womack, how they can believe what he says and give them money. That story doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy. But then I’m not convinced of the ridiculous stories in the Bible.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

On the bright side, at least they're not wasting it on no-good, lazy Welfare Queens' and their armies of children by contributing to food banks and similar legitimate charities that can demonstrate proven results IN REALITY.

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Joe King's avatar

"I don't care whether you give or not. God's gonna take care of me."

He doesn't care whether or not you (indivdually) will give him money, because there are so many of you (collectively) that will. All for an invisible product that costs nothing to manufacture and cannot be delivered until after death. Large corporations, as exploitative as they can be, are more ethical than this.

Most of us here 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 follow this model and be just as successful with it. The difference is that we all have the integrity to care about our fellow humans and not wish them harm.

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JerryBier's avatar

Don't you mean that God's NOT going to take care of you? Imaginary characters work like that.

And fools paying for something that has no evidence of existing... yeah, what could go wrong there?

And, you're also right about following their model and that your morals are the thing that stops one from forming their own religion. Same reason for me.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

More proof that Santa and The Hogfather ARE REAL!

Even more iron-clad than Anselm' Ontological Proof of God's Existence!

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Then Small gods exist too.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

That's a given, and there are more being made every day.

“The merest accident of microgeography had meant that the first man to hear the voice of Om, and who gave Om his view of humans, was a shepherd and not a goatherd. They have quite different ways of looking at the world, and the whole of history might have been different. For sheep are stupid, and have to be driven. But goats are intelligent, and need to be led.”

... and ...

“There’s no point in believing in things that exist.”

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Len Koz's avatar

I pray to Anoia often.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

OT

Got to log off for a bit.

I just checked my email. In response to a comment I made earlier, someone anonymously gifted me a 1-year subscription here based on a comment I made.

I thank you kindly, o anonymous one. Very much appreciated.

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Mr.E's avatar

very well deserved in my humble opinion.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

My thanks. :)

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Matri's avatar

Oooh!

"Liked by Hemant Mehta"

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I know, right? I just now saw this.

I've never seen him like a comment before. This is pretty special. :)

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Now we know who is Hemant's favorite.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I'll have you know I kissed a lot of ass to get where I am today. ;)

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Len Koz's avatar

Teacher's pet.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Took a bushel full of apples, but hey... ;)

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XJC's avatar

Thank God...

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

OT - Speaking of extreme hoarders

𝟕𝟎𝟎 𝐩𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐫𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐰𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐚 𝐂𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐩𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐛𝐲 𝐰𝐨𝐨𝐝𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐫𝐬

https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2023/2/10/23592529/acorns-found-in-california-home-from-woodpeckers

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NOGODZ20's avatar

That's just nuts.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

That was almond funny.

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jomicur's avatar

I can't respond to that, because I feel a sneeze coming on. CA-SHEW!

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larry parker's avatar

Nut* bless you!

* Egyptian goddess

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jomicur's avatar

Ah, the old shell game.

(True fact: When I lived in Egypt, I worked on the restoration of her temple at Karnak. Her name is pronounced "newt.")

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Not "Throat Warbler Mangrove?"

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larry parker's avatar

It mentioned the pronunciation on the wiki page but I decided to ignore it.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

In French it's written Nout and pronounced Noot :)

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Did she get better?

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

OMG ... you walnut pass!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Great, now I feel a sneeze coming...com...pi-STACHio!

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larry parker's avatar

That's a corny pun.

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jomicur's avatar

Sorry I popped it at you.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Cob-bled that together, did you?

Don't want us to talk your ear off with corn puns?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

You can't come acorn a pun thread without commenting 😁

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Don't get your knickers in a nut.

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larry parker's avatar

Squirreled them away.

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A.Gnosticthefirst's avatar

The great journalist H.L Mencken thought of the Christian businessman as the most revolting creature ever created.

Mencken was right. Evangelists are businessmen selling god, using a healthy dose of hypocrisy.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

How else are those two-bit soul chasers going to get their wings?

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A.Gnosticthefirst's avatar

My inability to conjure up the appropriate nutty term makes me feel like an inorganic wingnut. That is my testimony. BTW, testes are nuts too...When Christian hypocrisy is this brazen, leaving an un-fallow field for commentary, the nut jokes come out.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

-- Matthew 6:19-21

Gonna listen to your alleged savior, Mo Wack? Or are you content to be a Brylcreem Christian? Your Jesus lived hand to mouth. Obviously this is not good enough for you. Just as obviously, we can see where your heart really is.

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Joe King's avatar

Why would he listen? He is going to do the good Christian thing and ignore the bible where it cuts into his profit margin.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

TBH, they ignore the bible nearly all the time unless they need a scapegoat.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘰𝘳 𝘯𝘰𝘵. 𝘎𝘰𝘥'𝘴 𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘯𝘢 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘦, 𝘐 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶.

What's this present-participle bullshit? GOING TO?!? Wommack HAS BEEN taken care of, obviously so, and he won't let his congregation or anyone else forget it. The obvious question is whether said congregants will benefit similarly in any fashion, and I'd bet a cup of Folgers that the answer to that is a resounding 𝗡𝗢!!! The whole prosperity gospel scam is designed to pay off for the scammer, and never for the scammed.

But then, that's why they call it a scam.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

I'm figuring it's one of those p-sychological "IF the Great Pumpkin comes ..." Slips.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

It's people like this that lead me to think that these guys don't believe. This isn't just lying for Jesus, this is lying for personal profit.

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jomicur's avatar

It's no accident that prophet sounds just like profit.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

My dictation software often can't tell the difference that's for sure.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

I've similarly got an Audible book in "Alexa Hell".

I say "Blandings Castle" to the Amazon Echo and either get "Castles of Steel", which is in my Library, or some music with 'landings' in it, which I don't own but which I can "Purchase with my Amazon Account".

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

They believe in their bank accounts.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Yet their money says In God We Trust.

Bit of a contradiction, that.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I think they read "in god we trust fund".

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jomicur's avatar

If contradictions bothered them, they wouldn't be christians.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

But if these guys don't believe in Jesus, it's not strictly Lying for Jesus, is it? It's just Lying for Personal Profit.

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jomicur's avatar

Well, at least this is a step forward, a bit of progress in televangelist land. I never thought I'd see the day when one of them was honest enough to actually admit he relies on mental patients to give him money. Hemant says Wommack's story is unverifiable, but just offhand I suspect it pretty much tells his whole story--his and just about every other christian preacher's.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Lemme just feed that sermon through the 'ol Bullshit-to-English translator:

"I'm stealing from you! I'm gonna take all your money, and you're gonna let me. I'm gonna tell you exactly how much money I've been stealing from everyone here, how much dough I rake in every single hour, and then I'm gonna look you in the eye and smile and you're gonna give me all you've got left anyway. It's so easy I don't even have to hide it. You're all gullible. I'm rich. I'm filthy, stinking rich, because you're all gullible. C'mon up here and plant a seed that'll turn into my next Learjet. Give me your mortgage payments. Give me your medical bills. Give me your kids' college funds. I'll take all of it. I don't care if you starve; I don't care if you lose your home; I don't care if you get hit by my stretch limo on the way home from church today. I know you'll be back here next week to give me more. Amen."

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Wommack is undeterred by the commandments against stealing and coveting. He makes the case for the non-existence of his god.

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Matri's avatar

The fact that evangelicals continue to exist and have not been smited into oblivion is absolute proof of either the non-existence of god, or that said god is not worthy of worship.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

All the false prophets, too. Where is the smiting of THOSE that YHVH promised?

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

It happens all the time, just in the spiritual realm.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Taking $78.35 from a woman who had nothing left.

I look at Wommack and seriously want to slap the taste out of his mouth. He thought nothing of taking advantage of a person's mental difficulties to steal money from her. He gets his abominable morals out of the bible. Seems to me that HE'S the one with mental difficulties.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

And now a word from the inimitable Janis Joplin, because it's obligatory every time this prosperity gospel horsebuggery pops up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7YULkiLIA

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Been over half a century and I still miss her.

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beads's avatar

Never heard the name til long after we lost her, and I miss her very too! If you've never seen "Festival Express", it's well worth a watch just for her. And there's also The Band, Dylan, The Grateful Dead...

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Mr.E's avatar

and t̶̶h̶̶e̶̶ ̶f̶̶i̶̶n̶̶e̶̶ ̶p̶̶e̶̶o̶̶p̶̶l̶̶e̶̶ ̶a̶̶t̶̶ ̶m̶̶e̶̶r̶̶c̶̶e̶̶d̶̶e̶̶s̶̶ ̶b̶̶e̶̶n̶̶z̶̶ ̶p̶̶r̶̶o̶̶v̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶d̶̶ ̶h̶̶e̶̶r̶̶ ̶w̶̶i̶̶t̶̶h̶̶ ̶o̶̶n̶̶e̶̶ god gave her one. Stike through text does not work on this site for whatever stupid reason.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

One of the many typical examples of how Prosperity Gospel Preachers steals money without his victims knowing it.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Not only do they willing give him money, they thank him for taking it.

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jomicur's avatar

Now that is the perfect scam. P.T. Barnum must be spinning in his grave.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

Just comes to show how brainwashed they are.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

"You know, I don't care whether you give or not. God's gonna take care of me, I promise you. My needs are bigger than what you can meet… I just figured out this week I have to have $11,000 an hour, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days out of the year."

WTF is he doing that his "lifestyle" costs $96,360,000 a year‽‽‽

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XJC's avatar

Hookers, coke, yachts...the usual.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

First he need more private jets than creepy TV screen man, then more mansions than joel "my home is not a shelter" noesteem. Your turn.

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StochasticTerrorist's avatar

Well, I venture it doesn't involve learning how to use a calculator or Excel.

'Wommack, the ape creatures of the Indus have mastered this, let's try again.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4IQjUpTNVU

He sorta reminds me of what would happen if a "Futball Team Player as Bidness Major" used ChatGPT to create a spreadsheet.

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jomicur's avatar

He subscribes to a lot of magazines?

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Matri's avatar

D'you think the IRS would be interested in this little piece of information?

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Len Koz's avatar

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Richard Wade's avatar

So the new tactic in sales is to proudly admit your avarice and larceny, boast about it, flaunt it, present it as a virtue, and when criticized for it, double down on it.

Okay, good idea.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

O/T: The Hell That Patriarchy Promises and Too Often Delivers: A Very Personal Review of Women Talking - from Righting America

https://rightingamerica.net/the-hell-that-patriarchy-promises-and-too-often-delivers-a-very-personal-review-of-women-talking/

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