DeSantis is supposedly a lawyer and he should have enough familiarity with the U.S. Constitution to know our SECULAR government cannot choose one religion over another. He is an over-compensating, wannabe dictator with a Napoleon complex. We need federal legislation with some teeth in it to keep the preachers out of the public schools once and for all. The younger the child, the more vulnerable they are, because they are effectively powerless.
This is all performance art. Rhonda Sandtits is an attention whore with the deep pockets of the people of Florida to bankroll the inevitable lawsuits. He has wasted already, a huge amount of taxpayer money with little but embarrassment to show for it. By playing stupid games, the people of Florida have won a lot of stupid prizes... a public education system on life support, no one to pick their crops or clean their hotel rooms, unaffordable to unavailable-at-any-cost insurance, it goes on and on - there doesn't seem to be any end to their MAGAt depravity. Scientist are seriously considering adding Category 6 to the hurricane intensity scale. Florida is a, ahem, large projection dangling down between 2 bodies already too-warn water, known to spawn Cat 5s. One Cat 6 and Florida is over.
To denazillon, keep your bigotry out of vaginas and public schools. If the number of parishioners plummet, ask yourself why instead of doubling down on the propaganda. Self reflection is not really your strong point.
"That means, however, that non-Christian groups will not be prohibited from participating in the program. [...]If a district allows Christian chaplains to work with kids but says no to an otherwise qualified non-theistic chaplain, it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen."
We are talking about a man-child who sued a major corporation, and squandered taxpayers money, because his fragile ego was bruised.
I’m just so disgusted by DeSantis’ attacks on public schools considering his background in education. I guess private school teachers are just as greedy snobs as private school alumni.
What do you expect from the Greedy Oligarch Party.
I’ll repeat it to the choir, but there is no place for chaplains in public schools. The precious resources are better spent on educational materials and certified staff, including counselors.
Florida Man invites lawsuits. It would be impolite not to accept such invitations.
Christian-only chaplains? Which sect? Your fellow believers don't think Catholics like yourself are "True Christians." What happens when all the non-Catholics use this bill to freeze out members of the Church of the Holy Pedophile?
Yeah, when I came out, my mother pushed me to see her pastor. I did on the condition she read a book on reconciling being gay with Christianity. AFAIK, she didn't uphold her end of the bargain. Needless to say, I'm still gay, and not a Christian.
I foresee a lot of parents of LGBT students trying to force their kids to see Christian chaplains, rather than councilors trained to help with self-hate and coping with societal, even parental, hate.
Because being the right's culture warrior was such a winning strategy for getting the GOP Presidential nomination, right?
Sigh. Well, due to FL's "only twice in a row" rule he can't run for governor in 2026. Maybe he's trying to build up enough popularity to create a state constitutional change. Or build up enough momentum now to last him until President 2028, Senate 2028, or Governor 2030. If so, I don't think it'll work. The base is too fickle. By that time they will have a new favorite angry white man.
Open mouth; insert foot ... down to the knee. Once again, Ron DeSantis demonstrates his open contempt for any religion not Christian, and most specifically The Satanic Temple, which as Hemant reminded everyone, is recognized by the IRS as a valid religion. As such, DeSantis has no legal leg to stand on, regarding any challenge that might come from TST or elsewhere.
I realize that Ronnie will fight this to the bitter end. I just wish he would recognize the waste of time and money he's indulging in.
The crickets this kind of report will generate is an example of why I call bullshit on the anti trans crowd who are oh so concerned about the safety of women prisoners from possible assault from trans women prisoners.
Nah. Y’all don’t give a shit about prisoners. You just want an excuse to hate on trans people.
Santeria, Vodou, Hindu, Zen, Shinto, Wicca, Islam, Hari Krishna, Norse, and a multitude of Christian sects will be stiff competition for the priests/priestess of Satan. I think the plaintiffs in these cases should represent more of the spectrum of belief and worship practice. However, as the saying goes - “Sata…eh…the dude abides.” Or as has been wisely noted don’t hire “chaplains” and get this type of legislation repealed and not brought up of a vote without debate and still vote it down.
What I don't understand is whether schools will set up private conference offices for these "volunteer" non-employees to come and go as they please. And, if they do, how long before some Catholic priest takes advantage of the privacy thereby afforded to do what Catholic priests are now notorious for doing?
It seems like DeSatanic Majesty’s request to put religious folk in schools is just another way to punish Florida’s people for not kissing the ring to his every whim and pushing back. I hope there is a lawsuit and he gets kicked in the nuts again. With white go-go boots.
Well, DeSantis has an easy solution. If Chaplains are required for school, and he can't block Satanists from becoming chaplains, then he can simply get rid of schools. Simple solution. If prevents kids form worshipping Satan. Saves money in the state budge and prevents the children from being exposes them to dangers ideas, feelings and the concept that there are other people. DeSantis kills like 5 birds with 3 stones, I am not sure of the ratio. I went to a Florida public school.
These guys really seem to be looking to get themselves into all kind of trouble.
I'm not sure I like the whole parental permission thing, though. What about the students' right to make their own religious decisions. This is always my issue with "parental rights" issues/rhetoric; The child also has rights and a lot of parents don't care about that. Hell, sometimes they don't even care about the child's well-being.
DeSantis is supposedly a lawyer and he should have enough familiarity with the U.S. Constitution to know our SECULAR government cannot choose one religion over another. He is an over-compensating, wannabe dictator with a Napoleon complex. We need federal legislation with some teeth in it to keep the preachers out of the public schools once and for all. The younger the child, the more vulnerable they are, because they are effectively powerless.
This is all performance art. Rhonda Sandtits is an attention whore with the deep pockets of the people of Florida to bankroll the inevitable lawsuits. He has wasted already, a huge amount of taxpayer money with little but embarrassment to show for it. By playing stupid games, the people of Florida have won a lot of stupid prizes... a public education system on life support, no one to pick their crops or clean their hotel rooms, unaffordable to unavailable-at-any-cost insurance, it goes on and on - there doesn't seem to be any end to their MAGAt depravity. Scientist are seriously considering adding Category 6 to the hurricane intensity scale. Florida is a, ahem, large projection dangling down between 2 bodies already too-warn water, known to spawn Cat 5s. One Cat 6 and Florida is over.
To denazillon, keep your bigotry out of vaginas and public schools. If the number of parishioners plummet, ask yourself why instead of doubling down on the propaganda. Self reflection is not really your strong point.
"That means, however, that non-Christian groups will not be prohibited from participating in the program. [...]If a district allows Christian chaplains to work with kids but says no to an otherwise qualified non-theistic chaplain, it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen."
We are talking about a man-child who sued a major corporation, and squandered taxpayers money, because his fragile ego was bruised.
I’m just so disgusted by DeSantis’ attacks on public schools considering his background in education. I guess private school teachers are just as greedy snobs as private school alumni.
What do you expect from the Greedy Oligarch Party.
I’ll repeat it to the choir, but there is no place for chaplains in public schools. The precious resources are better spent on educational materials and certified staff, including counselors.
Hey, Satanic Temple chaplains are not the only option here, people. Other fun options are male chaplains in drag and women chaplains in burkas.
Florida Man invites lawsuits. It would be impolite not to accept such invitations.
Christian-only chaplains? Which sect? Your fellow believers don't think Catholics like yourself are "True Christians." What happens when all the non-Catholics use this bill to freeze out members of the Church of the Holy Pedophile?
Yeah, when I came out, my mother pushed me to see her pastor. I did on the condition she read a book on reconciling being gay with Christianity. AFAIK, she didn't uphold her end of the bargain. Needless to say, I'm still gay, and not a Christian.
I foresee a lot of parents of LGBT students trying to force their kids to see Christian chaplains, rather than councilors trained to help with self-hate and coping with societal, even parental, hate.
𝐷𝑒𝑆𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑 𝑔𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑠. 𝐻𝑒’𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑟 𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑙𝑒𝑠
Because being the right's culture warrior was such a winning strategy for getting the GOP Presidential nomination, right?
Sigh. Well, due to FL's "only twice in a row" rule he can't run for governor in 2026. Maybe he's trying to build up enough popularity to create a state constitutional change. Or build up enough momentum now to last him until President 2028, Senate 2028, or Governor 2030. If so, I don't think it'll work. The base is too fickle. By that time they will have a new favorite angry white man.
Open mouth; insert foot ... down to the knee. Once again, Ron DeSantis demonstrates his open contempt for any religion not Christian, and most specifically The Satanic Temple, which as Hemant reminded everyone, is recognized by the IRS as a valid religion. As such, DeSantis has no legal leg to stand on, regarding any challenge that might come from TST or elsewhere.
I realize that Ronnie will fight this to the bitter end. I just wish he would recognize the waste of time and money he's indulging in.
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The crickets this kind of report will generate is an example of why I call bullshit on the anti trans crowd who are oh so concerned about the safety of women prisoners from possible assault from trans women prisoners.
Nah. Y’all don’t give a shit about prisoners. You just want an excuse to hate on trans people.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/18/incarcerated-people-covid-death-rates
"… It's a typical demonic threat."
Remember, these people operate heavy machinery just like the adults do.
Santeria, Vodou, Hindu, Zen, Shinto, Wicca, Islam, Hari Krishna, Norse, and a multitude of Christian sects will be stiff competition for the priests/priestess of Satan. I think the plaintiffs in these cases should represent more of the spectrum of belief and worship practice. However, as the saying goes - “Sata…eh…the dude abides.” Or as has been wisely noted don’t hire “chaplains” and get this type of legislation repealed and not brought up of a vote without debate and still vote it down.
What I don't understand is whether schools will set up private conference offices for these "volunteer" non-employees to come and go as they please. And, if they do, how long before some Catholic priest takes advantage of the privacy thereby afforded to do what Catholic priests are now notorious for doing?
It seems like DeSatanic Majesty’s request to put religious folk in schools is just another way to punish Florida’s people for not kissing the ring to his every whim and pushing back. I hope there is a lawsuit and he gets kicked in the nuts again. With white go-go boots.
Well, DeSantis has an easy solution. If Chaplains are required for school, and he can't block Satanists from becoming chaplains, then he can simply get rid of schools. Simple solution. If prevents kids form worshipping Satan. Saves money in the state budge and prevents the children from being exposes them to dangers ideas, feelings and the concept that there are other people. DeSantis kills like 5 birds with 3 stones, I am not sure of the ratio. I went to a Florida public school.
These guys really seem to be looking to get themselves into all kind of trouble.
I'm not sure I like the whole parental permission thing, though. What about the students' right to make their own religious decisions. This is always my issue with "parental rights" issues/rhetoric; The child also has rights and a lot of parents don't care about that. Hell, sometimes they don't even care about the child's well-being.