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"Why is one better than the other? Because he’s used to the former."

Exactly. Simple cultural bias. I have it too - I likes me a big stone cathedral. Organ music in a church is more pleasant to my ears than the adhan. But I'll also admit that that's just how I was raised. It's subjective - beauty in the eye of the beholder - nothing more. Though the Great Mosque in Cordoba certainly deserves a spot up there with Notre Dame and other similar architectural wonders.

As for fundamental decency, Christianity is 600 years older than Islam and has had a very different historical evolution. For sure, as of 2024 French Catholics aren't nearly as religiously bloodthirsty as the Afghanistan Taliban. But 600 years ago, those French Catholics were pretty damn bloodthirsty. And they are not bloodthirsty today arguably because of the enlightenment, because of greater material prosperity, because of changes in government structures historically related to the formation of the Republic. Not because of theological differences. Or at least, not primarily because of theological differences. Islam in the right socio-, politico-, and historical context is just as peaceful as Christianity. How do we know this to be true? Because in terms of obeying the law, US muslims act a lot like US Catholics who act a lot like US nones. And the same is true in many other countries. The biggest difference in behavior is between 0th/1st generation immigrants and pepole who have been in that area for several generations.

So no Richard, I disagree with the claim that Christianity is more fundamentally decent. Observationally, 21st Century, first world, Western Democracy Christianity may be more aligned with Western cultural norms and western notions of civil and human rights than Mideast, third world, Theocratic Authoritarian Islam. But the explanation for that difference resides much more in the "Democracy" vs. "Theocratic Authoritarian" and the "first world" vs. "third world," than it does in the "Christianity" vs. "Islam."

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Re Dawkins and him going down the anti-trans rabbit hole: I have come to regard peoples' position on trans folks as a litmus test for whether I should treat them with respect and listen to them or whether I should tell them to simply piss off and henceforth completely ignore them. Trans folks exist and they always have. They make up such a small, insignificant percentage of the population.

The great majority of people in a tizzy about trans folks will never in their lifetime ever meet or interact with or know someone who is trans - at least not knowingly. Further, whatever someone thinks about trans folks, they have zero affect on your life. Cope. Stuff the bullshit outrage over whose face appears on a can of beer that you probably don't drink. The sports competition thing is the province of sporting authorities and literally has been addressed for decades.

If you are someone who is not trans, do not know someone who is trans and yet spend much of your waking hours concerned about trans folks, then you are either seriously disturbed, need some hobbies to better occupy your time or both. Either way, my attitude is you should just shut the fuck up as I do not want to hear from you.

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