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Marilyn Lemons's avatar

"This is just a group of lawmakers dedicated to promoting reason-based public policy, keeping church and state separate, opposing discrimination against non-religious people, and championing freedom of thought around the world." The question s/b why all the members of Congress aren't in this group of lawmakers?

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Sadly, Marilyn, there are a whole lot of congresspersons out there who aren't horribly FREE in their thinking, not to mention skeptical or rational.

Even scarier, at times I'm pretty sure a lot of those don't WANT to be, either! 🤦‍♂️

Matri's avatar

They'd have to give up good money when they join up.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Well, it's nice to see that Florida can still export 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 other than fascism and orange juice!

Seriously, though... good on ya, Rep. Frost. It's nice to see the Freethought Caucus gathering a bit of steam.

oraxx's avatar

Not a Republican on the list. They pander to the preachers, while viewing human decency as a character flaw.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

To be fair, if any of them joined they'd be an ex-congressperson.😇

Linda LaScola's avatar

To be fair, it's not fair that they would lose their position in congress simply for supporting the free-thought caucus.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Republicans/conservatives aren't fair. But I doubt they'd ever be elected without the support of the churches. This certainly not going to get anywhere if they are condemned from the pulpit.

Joan the Dork's avatar

They say you should only say good things about the dead... 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘭...

Henry Kissinger is, at long last, dead.

𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗱.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Finally! May he rot in the non-existent hell.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Excellent! All the other articles I could find about the event were so unnecessarily soft on the old ghoul that I couldn't stomach linking them.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Kissinger's fellow Germans had this reaction...

https://imgur.com/gallery/NcfPSVI

Kay-El's avatar

The minute I saw that I sent a text to my sibs saying that asshole finally kicked the bucket.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Yeah, the priest who did the eulogy at my father funeral couldn't find anything good to say about him and it was part of his job.

Len Koz's avatar

I've been at a couple of funerals where it was obvious that the priest either knew nothing about the deceased or didn't care because the priest told blatant lies about the deceased.

cdbunch's avatar

Don't get me started on the man who had supposedly been my mother's pastor for 20 years and didn't know a thing about her except what my uncle told him at her funeral. But boy, did he get his plug in for Jesus.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

That's the thing, he knew my family quite well.

Len Koz's avatar

Did I misunderstand? Was there just nothing good to say about your father?

Len Koz's avatar

My father wasn't quite as bad as that. But he was an excellent example of what not to do as a father. Whenever I am not sure how to react as a parent, I think of what he would have done, then I do the opposite.

Kay-El's avatar

I don’t know why I’m surprised that Max Frost is religious, but I am. I guess that’s a good thing because he obviously keeps it SEPARATE from his professional life. I’ve been following his progress ever since he announced his run for Congress. I’ve seen him interviewed many times and he’s a good man. His district should be proud.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

As always, one more member of the Congressional Freethought Caucus is terrific news. Still, I can't help but notice that there aren't any members with an (R) next to their name, and while I don't agree with virtually ANY of the Republican positions on issues (what few positions they actually have!), I would give a lot to see at least ONE join this group.

It would be at least something of an indicator that not ALL of those on the right have lost their minds!

Bill Lawrence's avatar

This is encouraging. There's no reason to think a religious person can't be for rational policymaking at the same time. There are no Republicans on the Committee because, I believe, Republicans are politically religious. There is a difference.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Republicans who look for rational policy making are summarily ejected from the party nowadays. They don’t necessarily become democratic, they just lose their positions.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

The state republican party here did a "study" recently and concluded that roughly 30% of republican office holders are actually democrats.

Joe King's avatar

There's an elected Democrat in Floridumb? How the fuck did that happen? Seriously though, this is good.

cdbunch's avatar

DeSantis was too busy missing Disney and kicking himself in the ass to properly gerrymander the state.

XJC's avatar

There's one of 'em in Utah and Nebraska. Gerrymandering to keep the D-man down.

Don Rowlett's avatar

Hmmmm. Maybe we should all contact our reps and ask them to join the caucus if they have not yet done so.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I wrote mine sometime back, and if memory serves, Sherrod Brown actually wrote me back! No, he's not a member, but I think he looks favorably on the CFC, though that doesn't surprise me much. Sherrod is a long-timer, thoughtful, and gives a damn about his constituents, and that goes a long way with me.

Bill Lawrence's avatar

I intend to donate something to his campaign. He's also from an important state.

cdbunch's avatar

AFAICT, my Rep gives a damn. I wish I could say that about either of my Senators. But one proved how much he cared about his constituents by flying to Cancun in the middle of a state-wide disaster.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, yeah, Cancun Cruz. What a wiener!

cdbunch's avatar

Oh and don't forget he left behind the dog in a house without heat or power at the time he left.

NOGODZ20's avatar

I wish Snowflake had gone Cujo on Fled Cruz for that.

cdbunch's avatar

But then they'd have put the poor thing down. They don't look kindly on dogs that kill 'humans'.

Lynn James's avatar

That is beyond vile. I'd like to kick him in the junk with some steel-toed cowboy boots for that

Matri's avatar

Here is more reason to do so:

He claimed that the flee trip was "planned months in advanced".

Apparently that planning includes deliberately leaving the dog behind to fend for itself in winter, according to his excuse "logic".

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I've got a pair of metal reinforced boots size 36/5.5 (3.5 if you are British). Each weight about 500g (a tad over a pound). Would it work ?

cdbunch's avatar

What an insult to wieners.

Lynn James's avatar

Good old Fleddy Teddy.

Kay-El's avatar

I’ve always liked him and actually met him once. He’s the real deal. Just gave money to his campaign.

Kay-El's avatar

Great suggestion. My rep isn’t on the list so I’ll send a polite email asking for consideration

XJC's avatar

Anybody see that the new right-wing president of Argentina is converting to Judaism? Score one for Yahweh. How did Jesus fuck that up in an uber-Catholic country? https://www.nationalreview.com/news/incoming-argentinian-president-javier-milei-plans-to-convert-to-judaism/

Daniel Rotter's avatar

So much for Congresswoman Maria Elvira Salazar's approving citation of Argentina being "one religion." (ironically said in a video promoting Milei's candidacy).

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

To be fair, he is a raving nutcase.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Champions reason-based policies. That explains the total absence of Republicans from the CFC.

Maltnothops's avatar

I live just a few miles outside Raskin’s district. My representative is fine even if he isn’t in the CFC.

Robert Jaffee's avatar

“That also means none of these lawmakers believes joining the Caucus will be a concern for them heading into the 2024 elections, which may come as a shock to anyone who remembers a time when aligning with atheism was considered one of the biggest taboos in politics.”

I’m not sure in today’s day and age why a “free-thought” caucus would be considered a taboo; considering more than half this country and especially our youth, do not attend religious services of any kind.

This is exactly what our forefathers imaged. Policies being driven not by religious or ideological views, but rational leaders making logical decisions based on science and reason.

It’s the rest of the religious whack-jobs and kleptocrats that need to go. Good riddance!...:)

Matri's avatar

Ideally, yes. But thanks to the facists, it is in danger of turning completely around to the opposite.

Heil Hydra, and all that.

Sarah Rain's avatar

Finally!! I can be proud to be Florida! (Again)

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Not at the moment. 😁

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Floopy – we don't care what your daddy do.

cdbunch's avatar

They make pills for that.

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Sarah Rain's avatar

Well pedophiles are not exactly picky but sadly this here rings so true