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EllenThatEllen's avatar

Kevin Roberts real auguement? That Kamala Harris is a woman. That's it. That's all.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Additionally because she’s a black woman; double negative in their estimation. Don’t forget, the Confederate States of Dunces are still quite perturbed that under Obama, the Confederate statues and military bases were replaced with non-racist people and names; hence, the attempt to whitewash black history and attack DEI policies for the last several years…:)

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Imagine if Germany still had statues of Hitler's generals all over the country, and acted all shocked and surprised that citizens found them off-putting.

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Matri's avatar

She’s also more intelligent than all of them. Triple threat.

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Julie Duggan's avatar

And racists organizations beyond the KKK, such as Sons Of Confederate Soldiers. These idiots think their southern ancestors who fought to preserve slavery are heroes in "the war of northern aggression" (as they call it). These racists play big role in commissioning and erecting these statues.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Daughters of the Confederacy they hid it behind the women.

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RegularJoe's avatar

Also Black.

Oh, and educated.

And that name sounds .... foreign.

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

Just like Barack Obama sounds like a foreign name but I still voted for him twice and under his leadership-- things were better.

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RegularJoe's avatar

Oh, you mean Barack 𝙃𝙪𝙨𝙨𝙚𝙞𝙣 Obama, the secret Kenyan Muslim.

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

No I am talking about President Barack Hussein Obama who was born in Hawaii and is a United States citizen even though trump said publicly that Hawaii isn't a part of the United States of America. That Barack Obama and one of the greatest leaders the USA will Ever have.

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Richard S. Russell's avatar

I think Regular Joe was being sarcastic. Here we invoke Poe's Law, "an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, every parody of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied."

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

I replied respectfully both times to his sarcastic comment. So your issue is with him not with me.

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RegularJoe's avatar

Poe's Law applies for those new to the 'hood. To our regular denizens it was typical snarcasm....with a bold font. 🙃

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Straw's avatar

Too true.

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RegularJoe's avatar

Met the guy, several times. His wife, too. Nice folks. (Being involved in Iowa politics has its perks. 😉)

I supported him.

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

Lucky! The Obamas seem like nice people.

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

Nothing wrong with most Muslims just a few fanatics who give Muslims a bad name.

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Straw's avatar

Just as a few christians give xians a bad name. Same with jews.

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

I think out of all religions out there Christians take the cake on not loving their neighbors as themselves. Says me a Catholic. A non- practicing Catholic.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

You mean furrin, right?

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Patricia Kayden's avatar

If she were Palin, he’d be okay with her.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That's because they all wanted to bang her. They sure didn't want her for her brilliant witticisms!

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Lauren's avatar

What they mean is the Harris administration doesn’t support stuffing Christianity down our throats

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

👆👆👆

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Stacey E's avatar

Listening to the radio yesterday, a voter said she’s voting for Trump bc she’s a Christian and he represents her values. Of course we’ve been hearing this for years and I always wonder what Christian values they think Trump represents or shares with them. What do they see in Trump that’s remotely Christian? No snark - it’s a sincere question.

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RegularJoe's avatar

And countless Christians are supporting Harris because she's a Christian and supports their Christian values.

It's almost as if there's no one true standard in Christianity.....🤔

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Or no values.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

This is the same person who wants to grab women by the pussy, who could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any votes, who wants to punch his enemies right in the mouth (while not mentioning that his enemies MIGHT punch back!), and who knows more about everything than anyone does.

I type this and frankly boggle as I do so, for wondering HOW is this attractive to ANYONE???

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Lynn Veit's avatar

That makes two of us. Everything about that putrid puddle of protoplasm is utterly revolting.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

To each is own. I’d just wish they’d stop calling themselves people of god, unless their god is the anti-Christ!…:)

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Lynn Veit's avatar

After how many generations of screaming sermons about the antichrist coming to slay and persecute Christians, and then when he appears, they elect him fucking POTUS.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Too true…:)

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Well the bible DOES say that the antichrist would "fool the very elect."

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Lynn Veit's avatar

What very elect? They hate the word, as they hate hell pains, all Montagues, and thee, and are seriously trying to do away with this “elect” stuff. So messy, all this voting and counting and certifying, when they should be able to just rule by fiat and be done with it; after all they ARE the elect!

(“Dammit, there it is again, that horrid e-word! Somebody get a Newspeak dictionary in here, I want this word scrubbed from the English language!”)

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Repeat after me: Serenity Now! Serenity Now!…..:)

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

"And they shall wear the mark of the beast upon their foreheads." (insert maga hat pic. )

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Julie Duggan's avatar

The christo-fascists are so very blind....or they are willingly part of the deviate false flag, anti-christ movement. They can only be part of one of these two groups; blind or willfully involved.

Because based on their own supposed beliefs and "sacred" texts, signs of the anti-christ exactly describe Trump and his political and religious supporters: Lawlessness, Dictatorship, False Authority, Temple rebuilding

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Julie Duggan's avatar

Willfully ignorant or Willfully involved

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Richard S. Russell's avatar

I can't imagine why those "losers" and "suckers" who serve (or served) in the US military would back him, since he clearly thinks so little of THEM.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

There is a REAL mystery.

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XJC's avatar
Nov 3Edited

A hair under 46% of 'murica will choose Trump.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I'm not certain that the number is that low ... and that's why I am concerned and will continue to be so, even after Kamala Harris is declared the winner.

Because Donald Trump is a sore loser ... and his followers aren't much if any different.

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XJC's avatar
Nov 3Edited

Coming soon to streaming...and to reality, post-Nov 5, regardless of the outcome: Dictator for a Day! https://www.dictatorforadayshow.com/

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Not true, many Americans are under 18 and cannot vote.

"About 21.7% of the US population is under 18 years old. This is a decrease from 25.7% in 2000. "

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Maltnothops's avatar

I take people like that woman at their word. It tells me what their religion is all about.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Trump is their anointed one, not because he conforms to the standard Christian traditions of adhering to the Gospels of Jesus (neither do they), but because they compare him to Cyrus the Great, the king of the Achaemenid Empire, who allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem after the Babylonian captivity; thus fulfilling a biblical prophecy.

Trump gave them three Supreme Court Justices, who overturned Roe, and are committed to creating a White nationalist country with its roots embedded in “GOOD CHRISTIAN VALUES:

You know, the values these people would know little about; unless those values are family separations, denigrating immigrants and rounding them up into deportation camps, anti-semitism, and owning the libs…:)

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MikeinSonoma's avatar

King Cyrus, if people roll around in their graves, he’d be doing it today. He was already a king, gods didn’t nake him one, he was also known as a benevolent king who if he took over a people he treated them fairly. He has absolutely nothing in common with Donald Trump. I think evangelicals are just bad people, always looking for reasons to justify their badness.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Exactly, but in their defense, they’ve also been misinterpreting the gospels for centuries, so at least they’re consistent…:)

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Back during the 80's, there was a mantra circling the punditsphere to the effect: "The entire raison d'etre for the GOP is finding a moral justification for selfishness."

Sounds pretty tame now that they don't even give a damn about any effing justification because they knew you're going to be screwed anyway, and they're the ones doing the screwing.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

That's when I noticed they were banded together by hatred of "others."

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes that "Moral Majority" nonsense that was neither.

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JoyLynn's avatar

Ever since I first heard that "rationalization" I've wondered why God could not as easily use Barak Obama, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris who may not be perfect (as none of us are) at least attend church and actually live their faith. Do those Christians think Democrats are stronger than their god? Why choose such a vile old man to do God's work?

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“Not perfect”? There in lies the rub. Democrats are always held to a higher standard. No one is perfect, but the MSM seems to rejoice in revealing every Harris flaw, while simultaneously, downplaying and sane-washing all of Trump’s embarrassing failures, and colossal faux pas; of course, it’s all in the name of “balance!”…:)

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

MSM aka corporate media.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Values which they share with Trump:

- Naked lust for power.

- An overwhelming sense of personal entitlement.

- A desire to see "𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦" people punished for [insert crime here: being LGBTQ+, having too much melanin in the epidermis, not speaking 'Murican good enough, voting Democrat, being non-Christian, being the wrong 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥 of Christian, driving an EV, accepting any kind of government assistance, having a uterus and treating it as one's own organ rather than a loaner from the next pregnancy, etc.).

- A feeling of being unjustly persecuted when told "no" or held to account for one's own misdeeds.

None of that, of course, is to be found in the teachings of Jesus Christ. It 𝘪𝘴 to be found, however- all of it- in every conservative Christian church, of any denomination, anywhere in the country. Just because something is not a value espoused by Christ himself, doesn't mean it hasn't become a value of their brand of 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

👆👆👆👆👆This is why I followed you to this site!

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Whitney's avatar

In all seriousness, from what I could ever tell the whole 'shares my values' argument has never been anything but an appeal to emotion*. It has all the benefits of sounding like someone defending themselves on a moral level without any of the downsides of not sharing the specific values in question. Many times, people don't even recognize it as the dodge it is, either; it sounds like something everyone should do. Realistically, Christians may or may not share a given value, depending on interpretation and personal feeling on that specific value.

To be fair, the woman you heard on the radio may not have been aware of what she was doing, it's possible she's just heard the phrase so often she's started repeating it. Do not mistake the phrase for a valid argument or position, as it's really just intended to make the speaker look good and garner sympathy from the audience. The 'values' are intentionally vague, so that the audience can interpret the phrase as 'I'm just like you, I just want to defend what I hold dear.' As other posters have noted, the 'values' in this case are pretty much a desire for money or power, and Trump has convinced a frightening number of people that working with him will get them both. Dominionist Christianity is very much a real thing, and it's currently enjoying a resurgence of political power.**

* https://www.logicalfallacies.org/appeal-to-emotion.html

**For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology

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Stacey E's avatar

I hadn’t heard the term Dominionist Christian before - thx for the introduction to it and to the links.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Bigotry and racism somehow have become christian values.

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The Moonface Kid's avatar

Banging porno stars - that’s their values. All the shit they wish they could do but they are too poor. “Any day now” they will win the lottery, though, and then they too, will be a “player”.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

Mendacity is the order of the day with the reichwing christians. Their policies, when they become known, are not popular. So, to win they have to sow fear and bigotry to activate their base. Let us hope our base is more activated. I had a long conversation with a very conservative christian, last night. She told me she had already voted and it was not for tRump. Whether her vote was for Harris or Kennedy is almost irrelevant because her vote didn't go to tRump.

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Ellen Barry's avatar

“Reichwing”. Love that.

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Straw's avatar

Me too. It is spot on.

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oraxx's avatar

Kevin Roberts is the sanctimonious fool who declared his wretched organization had staged a bloodless coup in this country when he was certain Trump was going to win. Bloodless just as long as no one got in their way. He claimed they would be taking the country back, which implies it was ever theirs to begin with. It wasn't. It's very revealing that Roberts is preemptively whining about persecution when his grotesque Project 2025 was set to reduce women to the status of property and persecute just about everyone who dared disagree with them. I've read that Roberts is a member of Opus Dei, and as such he is someone capable of rationalizing an excuse for any horror. A truly frightening man whose real target is reason itself.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

All the worst people are Opuds Dei. (I know it's a typo but I like it so I'm leaving it!)

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Joe King's avatar

If Harris 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 wanted to prohibit Christians from worshipping, it would be by executive order, it would be immediately challenged, and declared unconstitutional at every step. If she were to even try, all ofus here would vehemently oppose that.

I suspect that Roberts' idea of"prohibiting worship" is the exact same thing as "requiring religious people to follow the same rules as everybody else".

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Of course that's what it is. Holding Christians to the same rules as all us unwashed hordes o' heathens? Doesn't That Woman (TM) realize how SPESHUL us krishchuns are?

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oraxx's avatar

If the goal is the destruction of religion, the last thing anyone should do is persecute Christians. At least up to a point, religion thrives on persecution, real or imaginary.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Especially imaginary persecution.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

🎶Martyrbation, can be fun... sung to the tune from "Hair".

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Man, they will just say ANYTHING, won't they? They will pull any shit out of their ass if they think it'll scare the sheep that much further into submission and supposedly insure a Trump victory at the polls this Tuesday. I've said it more than once: the Republican party has devolved into the Party Of Lies, a party that has abandoned the truth, facts, hard data and testable evidence for misinformation and mendacity.

And I really wonder at what it's going to take for them to find their way out.

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Maltnothops's avatar

The GOP needs a Truth and Reconciliation process.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

What they need is deprogramming away from Trump!

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Even if such deprogramming started the day after the election, I doubt they'd see reality for what it is in our lifetimes.

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Crowscage's avatar

We have 160 years worth of confederacy loving traitors in this country. That doesn't bode well for deprogramming the NatCs plaguing us now.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

The MAGAts have devolved into brainless slugs. That's the only thing I can think of to explain their ability to believe in armies of orcs and goblins coming to shut down their churches.

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RegularJoe's avatar

I'm not "anti-faith", I simply refuse to have faith imposed upon me.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Not on me OR ON THE GOVERNMENT I LIVE UNDER!

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Missael Silvestre's avatar

They say this for every Democratic nominee every election cycle. And yet they're still around despite saying that they would be silenced or whatever. Rinse, repeat. It's getting old and very, very annoying.

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Tinker's avatar

One common trait the Trumpettes seem to have is a very short memory. I pointed out to my mother just yesterday that the Jan 6th riot was broadcast on the Fox propaganda network, the same coverage that was on CNN but, 2 weeks later Fox hosts were denying it happened. If you watch Fox then you HAVE to have a very short term memory and watching Fox is a requirement for the MAGA Christian cult.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

It didn't even take them that long to flip 180 degrees from demanding our COVID shots be called "the Trump Vaccine," to deriding them as the "Fauci Ouchie" and shilling for horse paste, after Jan. 20th. MAGAts don't just have a short memory, they have no memory at all which isn't provided to them on demand by their media bubble. The right-wing media machine has perfected the art of mass gaslighting.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

The Trump Vaccine? I was getting nothing but Moderna vaccinations, the most effective of the COVID shots. Then-President Trump refused to fund Moderna. Didn't give then a penny.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

And unfortunately, that's a tool they'll just keep honing.

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Matri's avatar

Goldfish have infinitely better long-term memory than they do.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Goldfish with ADD.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

They watch and listen to reich-wing networks so they can be told what to believe and for how long to believe it.

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Matri's avatar

Short term memory for a normal human is far longer than any Republican’s long term memory.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Unfortunately, to the MAGAts, this is crack.

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painedumonde's avatar

I appreciate the reporting. Religion has always been political - c'est-à-dire, an avenue of power. Anyone that isn't afraid of the fascistic tendencies of the MAGA infected Republican/Conservative party coupled to the wild ravings of evangelical wingnuts and the quiet screams of their invisible Daddy is either asleep, intoxicated, completely fooled, or converted.

Thank you for all you do.

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PetMom's avatar

Quite the opposite: everyone (Christian or not) will be free to worship. Therein lies the (his) problem.

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Louise Lobinske's avatar

To the claim that the “Biden Administration has been hostile to people of faith, especially those with traditional beliefs about marriage, gender, and sexuality," I suggest maybe to the extent that those with traditional beliefs wanted to force their beliefs on the rest of us, that might be true. Maybe.

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Joe King's avatar

"Hostile to people of faith" means "insisting that the discrimination be kept to religious spaces instead of invading all aspects of public life". In that sense, yes.

True hostility to "people of faith" by the government would be blatantly unconstitutional. True hostility would be attempts to prohibit their speech and prevent them from meeting altogether. True hostility would mean jailing them for being Christian. Every case where they claim any of these things turns out to be false. Every case where they claim discrimination against them turns out to be them thinking rules don't apply to them.

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clairence's avatar

True hostility to people of faith is (also) when one religion demands all others, and the non-religious, be subjugated.

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Joe King's avatar

Well what do ya know? Another confession disguised as an accusation.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Well of COURSE the rules don't apply to them. Godly folk like themselves don't need rules! How insulting!

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Patricia Kayden's avatar

Trump must be defeated. He is a threat to all Americans including those who are religious. Project 2025 is about forcing rightwing ideology down society’s throat via the guise of religious devotion.

We are not a theocracy. Vote accordingly

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Matri's avatar

He and the entire Republican Party is a threat to the very fabric of freedom and democracy.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Trump is a champion of faith? Well, he certainly manages to routinely violate all 7 Deadly Sins.

Lust? Check.

Gluttony? Check.

Greed? Check.

Sloth? Check.

Wrath? Check.

Envy? Check.

Pride? Check.

"Nobody's perfect," Roberts? The saffron savior you truly worship got 7-for-7 on your so-called deadly sins. Yet he's still around. Not only that, he thinks of himself as a god. Either your spook in the clouds is an abject failure at taking Trump out (YHVH still hasn't gotten rid of Satan) or he simply doesn't exist.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

As a;ways, the simplest explanation is the most likely.

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Kay-El's avatar

That spook in the clouds (which I might have to appropriate because it made me laugh) may not exist but it’s still doing an excellent job of trying to scare the bejesus out of people. :D

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Christians aren't welcome in the Democratic Party!"

*coughcough*JOEBIDEN! Dumbass. What do you think the current President of the United States is? The freaking President! He's not just a Christian (like all but the first 6 Presidents), he's a Catholic. Just. Like. You.

BTW: Where is your outrage concerning your child molesting clergy? Not a peep out of you about THAT.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

He's too busy helping cover that up!

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

Does he know that Harris preached in many churches lately? Even in mega-churches? Apparently not.

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