Attempting to sort out who was, or was not, a TRUE Christian kept Europe soaked in blood for centuries. That history is why the American founders did not give religion any role to play in the government of their new country. No one in their right mind would want to live in a world where people like John MacArthur got to make the rules. Theocracies are never bastions of human rights and intellectual freedom.
This is a first-class (or maybe, more appropriately LAST-class!) example of how twisted Christianity has become in some quarters. Granted, Martin Luther King, Jr. got the concept of non-violence from Jainism, but to call him a non-Christian when thousands if not millions of people looked up to him AS a Christian leader goes beyond insulting to downright ludicrous.
MacArthur should be dunned into a proper retraction, not that the public will hear that.
A few days ago, a commenter asserted his or her understanding that Christians are prohibited from criticizing other Christians. I guess that person had some experiences around some very reticent Christians. But it made me laugh out loud because my experience was Christians criticizing other Christians is practically a sacrament. Calling MLK not a real Christian in the church I grew up in would have been just another typical Sunday.
Well, if Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. isn’t a Christian, then you don’t get to use him as an excuse to claim Christianity is not racist. Or not violent. Or not tolerant. Or not anything you’ve been using his goodness as an argument for Christianity. So we can put that crap to bed and never have to explain that, even if he used his Christianity as a reason for his righteousness, he was a good person (whatever his flaws) using Christianity as a tool for good. While you all are bad people using your Christianity as a tool for cruelty.
Notice how these people grab every form of identity and use them as slurs. They have no idea what the word or identity is. The only thing that matters to christians is "You think differently, therefore you are evil and deserve to burn in hell."
"...working for a gentle, caring, loving master was the best of all possible worlds."
Wow, so slavery was even better than freedom? Thanks Dr. M! This will be very reassuring news to black people, knowing their ancestors had "the best of all possible worlds".
I’m sure he went to the balcony MLK was murdered on to dance for joy on it, as he was probably quite giddy that particular thorn was removed from his paw. (I know, he wasn’t really there, but it’s clear he wished he was.).
Not surprising if you grew up in fundamentalist white Evangelical culture a few decades back.
Before white conservatives turned Dr. King into St. Martin who only said one thing ever and nothing else, they were more open and honest about their hatred of him.
"Slavery is not objectionable if you have the right master."
He says that, but if you suggest that he should be the slave, he'll scream blue murder and we all know it.
MacArthur here seems to be attempting to defy the old stopped clock theory about being right twice a day, and it's not a good look. Claiming that Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't a Christian is pretty much the exact sort of complete drivel I expect to see from MAGA Christians these days. Reality isn't something they can handle, so they pretty much BS their way through everything then get mad when someone calls them on it. Obvious comments about the No True Scotsman rule aside, claiming MLK as anything but a devoted Christian is more ridiculous than trying to add two plus two and getting 'eyeball' as the result.
I don't understand how people like this guy will say that that MLK wasn't a Christian, then point to various parts of the old Testament to defend their other beliefs.
Like what kind of Christian are *you*, Mr MacArthur? Show me how you're living like Jesus said you should.
These pastors are all phony, fucking hypocrites. Elmer Gantry & Co. They are just out for money and apparently people pay to watch Phonies igniting flame throwers.
Attempting to sort out who was, or was not, a TRUE Christian kept Europe soaked in blood for centuries. That history is why the American founders did not give religion any role to play in the government of their new country. No one in their right mind would want to live in a world where people like John MacArthur got to make the rules. Theocracies are never bastions of human rights and intellectual freedom.
"Slavery is not objectionable if you have the right master."
Hey MacArthur:
Are you ready to be a slave? I am pretty sure we can find you the right master.
This is a first-class (or maybe, more appropriately LAST-class!) example of how twisted Christianity has become in some quarters. Granted, Martin Luther King, Jr. got the concept of non-violence from Jainism, but to call him a non-Christian when thousands if not millions of people looked up to him AS a Christian leader goes beyond insulting to downright ludicrous.
MacArthur should be dunned into a proper retraction, not that the public will hear that.
A few days ago, a commenter asserted his or her understanding that Christians are prohibited from criticizing other Christians. I guess that person had some experiences around some very reticent Christians. But it made me laugh out loud because my experience was Christians criticizing other Christians is practically a sacrament. Calling MLK not a real Christian in the church I grew up in would have been just another typical Sunday.
Well, if Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. isn’t a Christian, then you don’t get to use him as an excuse to claim Christianity is not racist. Or not violent. Or not tolerant. Or not anything you’ve been using his goodness as an argument for Christianity. So we can put that crap to bed and never have to explain that, even if he used his Christianity as a reason for his righteousness, he was a good person (whatever his flaws) using Christianity as a tool for good. While you all are bad people using your Christianity as a tool for cruelty.
But keep blowing those bagpipes, baby.
Notice how these people grab every form of identity and use them as slurs. They have no idea what the word or identity is. The only thing that matters to christians is "You think differently, therefore you are evil and deserve to burn in hell."
"The question is how many other conservative Christians agree."
One is too many. There are possibly millions.
"...working for a gentle, caring, loving master was the best of all possible worlds."
Wow, so slavery was even better than freedom? Thanks Dr. M! This will be very reassuring news to black people, knowing their ancestors had "the best of all possible worlds".
I’m sure he went to the balcony MLK was murdered on to dance for joy on it, as he was probably quite giddy that particular thorn was removed from his paw. (I know, he wasn’t really there, but it’s clear he wished he was.).
"𝘐'𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘨𝘭𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘵, 𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯."
Seeing as how we've still got guys like you around, Johnny... perhaps he 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 have.
Not surprising if you grew up in fundamentalist white Evangelical culture a few decades back.
Before white conservatives turned Dr. King into St. Martin who only said one thing ever and nothing else, they were more open and honest about their hatred of him.
MacArthur didn't get the memo.
"Slavery is not objectionable if you have the right master."
He says that, but if you suggest that he should be the slave, he'll scream blue murder and we all know it.
MacArthur here seems to be attempting to defy the old stopped clock theory about being right twice a day, and it's not a good look. Claiming that Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't a Christian is pretty much the exact sort of complete drivel I expect to see from MAGA Christians these days. Reality isn't something they can handle, so they pretty much BS their way through everything then get mad when someone calls them on it. Obvious comments about the No True Scotsman rule aside, claiming MLK as anything but a devoted Christian is more ridiculous than trying to add two plus two and getting 'eyeball' as the result.
"The only TRUE Christian is one who believes exactly the same things I do." —Every Christian since forever
That was mighty white of him.
I don't understand how people like this guy will say that that MLK wasn't a Christian, then point to various parts of the old Testament to defend their other beliefs.
Like what kind of Christian are *you*, Mr MacArthur? Show me how you're living like Jesus said you should.
These pastors are all phony, fucking hypocrites. Elmer Gantry & Co. They are just out for money and apparently people pay to watch Phonies igniting flame throwers.