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Subscribed. Thank you, anonymous person who gifted me the subscription. Your kindness and generosity are appreciated more than you can know.

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I didn't donate to the patreon at quite the level for a subscription, but I did donate and do appreciate Hemant's work.

OT: Greg is still trying to post gotcha's by posting links to the ordinances in the wrong city.

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OMG, that’s one piece of work there. Claiming he wants us to engage in good faith conversation but never acting in good faith himself. He want us to recognize closed mindedness, but does not open his own. Several folks presented their evidence for not believing in god and he just said “you’re closed minded because you’re an atheist, go look at this other philosophy that I believe.” He’s got the goal posts on rocket skates to run over all the strawmen he setup, he should be careful cause they’ve been tripped up by his spam, shoddy research and appeal to authority. (All scientists throughout history and today are religious, which is a flat falsehood). Master Charles Emerson Winchester sounds like a toddler compared to the bloviating Greg is doing, the one thing Charles has on this guy is that he actually understands the words he’s using.

NOGODZ20's avatar

He hyped agnosticism over atheism at one point but couldn't even spell it.

larry parker's avatar

I didn't notice that. Thanks. I did a screen grab because he likes to do a lot of after the fact editing.

cdbunch's avatar

It's an understandable mistake for a quick, shallow attempt, but from someone who's calling others out for not doing their research, it's an unforgivable mistake.

larry parker's avatar

Has he received awards for his research like a certain someone else? : )

cdbunch's avatar

I suspect he's also linking to the wrong type of permits from a cursory glance at the page. He seems to like to use a lot of big words and think that makes him a deep thinker, but he's really pretty shallow.

Maltnothops's avatar

I’ve been rereading the Harry Potter books. Greg reminds me of Gilderoy Lockhart.

jomicur's avatar

I just posted several replies to him. I know we shouldn't feed the trolls, but they look and sound so pathetic and whiny when they plead for attention that I just can't resist handing them a few crumbs.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I wish I could donate, not only for the content but for the community here.

dreg commence sérieusement à faire chier.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Greggy Poo's a MAGAt believer whose brain has Sprung a leak. I refuse to feed the troll.

jomicur's avatar

I can never resist feeding the poor little creatures at the zoo, either.

cdbunch's avatar

This from Greg:

"Thank you for identifying these details.

It forces me to admit that my position was phony anyways because I have no horse in the race.

I now realize that I’m just being a troll.

Thanks again and best regards. " (I miss Disqus' ability to link to individual comments)

Under the circumstances probably the most graceful way to bow out now that he's been shown to be wrong on just about everything he said.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Saw that. He said it twice. He thought he was being smarmy, but he only confirmed what we already knew. That he was nothing but a troll.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Spam aplenty. His trolling also encompasses gaslighting, personal attacks, harassment and spreading misinformation.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Even if I wanted to engage the pea-brain, it wouldn't make a difference. And besides, Joan and others are batting him around like a ball bearing in a pinball machine.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Just seeing this. Many thanks for the like, Hemant. Also hugely appreciated. :)

cdbunch's avatar

OT2: In news of "that's what you get for living in Texas", my garden-size Pride Flag was stolen Thursday. The replacement arrived today. If I ever get dressed, I'll replace it.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

"If I ever get dressed"

Ain't nobody got time for that!

cdbunch's avatar

The law in Texas (and, surprisingly, Washington) is remarkably unclear about the need to get dressed. It seems to be dependent on the observer's reaction rather than your behavior.

jomicur's avatar

Be careful. People who fly Pride flags are being assassinated now. I guess that's how you can tell what a bastion of freedom this country is.

cdbunch's avatar

I apparently didn't hear this story. Did the article you read happen to mention which hate preacher the suspect listened to?

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Big fan of Jordan Peterson I hear.

cdbunch's avatar

Another two-faced liar, Musk. I wonder how much 'X' (more stupid) usage has gone down in the last 10 months.

cdbunch's avatar

It's not unusual for a Republican to want the country to fail while they pick over the corpse and move the money to the Cayman's.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

He wants to make it so that no one under twenty-five can vote.

cdbunch's avatar

I decided to go out to get some late lunch rather than eat the last of Wednesday's Pizza, so I put the flag out there. The only problem is I bought a different stand (5 prong instead of two, the previous one leaned a lot.) and now the Pride Flag sits higher than the U.S. Flag.

RegularJoe's avatar

Oh, that's sure to piss off a patriot¹.

(¹ Actually a misspelling of "pet rat". See also: Jingoist.)

cdbunch's avatar

Yeah, I'm debating ordering another of the new style stands or wait and see how the new one does and then replace the two-prong stand.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Personally I'd be ordering landmines.

cdbunch's avatar

Landmines would hurt the mowing crew and besides I'm pretty sure lethal automatic measures would be illegal. Even in a 'stand your ground' state.

I am looking at security cameras, but they are a little steep.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I was looking at cameras to figure out how some dog was getting onto my section to shit on my lawn. Not security cameras as such but trail cams – they seemed to be relatively cheap. Some were even cheaper than the skunk granules I eventually got which solved the problem.

RegularJoe's avatar

Configure them for command detonation only. 😉

cdbunch's avatar

OT: This made me think of NoGodz, went to SeaWorld SA's waterpark this week with my niece and nephew and discovered the place is cashless. They do have several kiosks to convert your cash into a pre-paid VISA (how 'nice' of them). While it's not the sort of thing that really seems wrong to me like a cashless doctor's office, I can appreciate his position.

cdbunch's avatar

The had a cashless armband so you didn't have to carry your CC around. It seems to me they could have easily made that a pre-pay cash tab with refund at the end of the day just as easily. It wouldn't be hard for the computer to keep up with the balance, unlike a bartender.

cdbunch's avatar

The difference between what I described and the pre-paid VISA is I've never seen one which will refund you the unused balance and since it won't calculate a partial payment of the remaining balance for a merchant so you can split payment, you often leave a small amount that you can't use on the card.

When AT&T sent me a two-dollar refund on a pre-paid card when I closed my account with them the only reason I was able to get any money out of that was Amazon Gift Cards only have a $1 minimum and allow 1 cent increments. I order from Amazon enough that that is almost as good as cash.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Seems like such a hassle (to me, at least). Think I'll stick with cash. They want the magic plastic? Then I don't need what they're selling.

cdbunch's avatar

I don't know, having to go back to your locker for cash every time you want to buy a bottle of water seems like even more of a hassle

NOGODZ20's avatar

This is why you try to plan ahead. Might not be foolproof, but it gives you a chance. :)

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

OT - Seen on a bumper sticker

Condoms Prevent Minivans

cdbunch's avatar

A condom could have prevented Donald J. Trump. I want to see that bumper sticker (and meet the person brave enough to put it on their car)

larry parker's avatar

Growing up, we had a full size van. A minivan wouldn't have cut it.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Closest we ever got was a station wagon.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I saw that bumper sticker on a station wagon yesterday. At first I thought it was a Hearst because I thought they stopped making station wagons decades ago.

NOGODZ20's avatar

The last station wagon was discontinued in 1996. The SUVs helped kill it.

I also have to think the continuing trend towards smaller cars drove in the coffin nails on the big American automobiles in general.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

https://www.autoevolution.com/holden/commodore-wagon/

Not that I'm particularly interested in cars but........... the Antipodes doesn't always get the credit it deserves.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Then it was a Hearst, but it wasn't a owned by a funeral home.

NOGODZ20's avatar

That reminds me of Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs using a 52 Packard Hearse to tour in. :)

NOGODZ20's avatar

OT

Bob Barker died. Will never forget him in "Happy Gilmore"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CajdyoaSM0

jomicur's avatar

I've never been able to shake the suspicion he was embalmed back in the '70s.

larry parker's avatar

Are you telling the truth? Because, if not, there will be consequences.

cdbunch's avatar

IMDB confirms it August 26, 2023.

NOGODZ20's avatar

He was 99. The story's all over the Interwebz.

cdbunch's avatar

As I recall, Laramie was more my type.

NOGODZ20's avatar

I kinda crushed on Hymie the Robot, played at the time by the scrumptious Dick Gautier.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Just looked it up. 99 is now 90.

RegularJoe's avatar

He almost made it to 100 without going over.

cdbunch's avatar

That's bad. I wonder if Drew will use it for his tribute.

XJC's avatar

A great advocate for animals...something our insane world sorely needs, in addition to ridding itself of superstition and religion.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

OT : DM just gratified me with a coffee shower 😅

NOGODZ20's avatar

Cream and sugar included?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

In casa de DM, drinking it black is vanilla 😁

NOGODZ20's avatar

I thought the French put milk (or cream) in their coffee.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Depend of where you grew up. For her grandfather it was a blasphemy.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Are you being a dirty girl?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I was, for 5 minutes, the time for me to stop laughing, grab a clean T-shirt and take a covfefe free shower.

larry parker's avatar

OT: Here's an article from CNN about dead relatives in dreams:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/27/us/dreams-dead-relatives-study-trnd/index.html

I've had dreams about dead relatives and also dead people I didn't know (Abe Lincoln, for example). Nothing unusual, I would guess the same for most people. Someone is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

"The survey’s yes-no questionnaire didn’t ask for explanations about the nature of these encounters from respondents.

Because of this, the researchers wrote that they “don’t know whether people view these experiences as mysterious or supernatural, or whether they see them as having natural or scientific causes, or some of both.”

I know. Must be a slow day at CNN, too.

jomicur's avatar

Last night I dreamed that I was a guest on the Mike Douglas Show. And the other guest was Tom Snyder. I swear I haven't even heard their names for several decades, so I have no idea where the hell it came from.

larry parker's avatar

Tom Snyder was never on the Mike Douglas Show. : )

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0811571/

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I sometimes dream about my dead parents and other dead people – and people I haven't seen for years. But mostly my dreams are what I call frustration dreams. I'm trying to get somewhere but can't because things keep happening to stop me. That's the most common one. No doubt some woo peddler would make a fortune with that if I could bring myself to see one.

larry parker's avatar

I have the can't get somewhere dreams, but the reason is because bears are roaming around outside.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Stephen King once said "Ever notice how you never get where you're going in your dreams?"

That's a recurring theme in my dreams.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Well that is somewhat reassuring. The fact that it's common – at least here.

cdbunch's avatar

No 'Dukes of Hazzard' marathon?

cdbunch's avatar

Brain fart. Merging Tom Wopat and John Scheider plus alternate spelling of the later came out Tom Snyder

NOGODZ20's avatar

I dream about my mom and dad all the time. I also dream of famous people I've never met (and some I have).

In the end, dreams are your simply mind playing tricks on you. Nothing supernatural at all. Dreaming is a safe way to go a little crazy every night. 🙂

larry parker's avatar

I don't know that I would call it "playing tricks". To me, it's more of a free association kind of thing.

cdbunch's avatar

My dreams mostly happen in a semi-conscious state (I may have seen "Dreamscape" at an impressionable age) I have conversations with dead relatives. But most of my dreams seem to be trying to tell some epic story and occasionally, I'll realize one of the characters is being played by a famous actor.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Can't say I remember dreaming of a dead person unless you count the following. It was in a long hallway I was in a mid 19th century dress and a man said to me "I will take you to watch the Rigoletto" after that he took my hand and we started to run and slide on the floors. The chilling fact ? I had no idea what the Rigoletto was once I woke up, at least not consciously.

cdbunch's avatar

OT3: In news of money that could be better spent:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/monster-hunters-descend-on-scotland-for-biggest-loch-ness-search-in-50-years/ar-AA1fNvSZ

It would be quite something if they found it, but the likelihood is there's nothing there and ultimately even if they did there are better places to spend the money.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

There is indeed something, it's called a tourists trap.

cdbunch's avatar

So is Roswell, NM. Can't really blame the locals though, when a small town finds an industry, you pretty much have to run with it.

jomicur's avatar

One of my Egyptian boyfriend's uncles ran a tourist trap in a village called Athribis, in the Nile Delta. He was quite frankly flabbergasted that so many American christians would give him such large heaps of cash for the junk he sold them and the invented tales he told. Always a conscientious writer, I drafted a new spiel for him that ticked every one of their pious boxes. He later thanked me for the way it augmented his livelihood. I is de wickedest thing!

The weird thing is, there's a REAL ancient mystery there. Athribis was the site of one of the smaller pyramids. It still existed in the late 1800s; there's a detailed description of it in the old Baedeker's guide to Egypt. Then the pyramid...disappeared. No trace of it but a small pile of rubble. The theory is that all the stones were stripped off and carted away for building material in one of the surrounding towns. Except that there's no trace of any such stones anyplace in the region. So it's anyone's guess what happened. But American christians, being American christians, only ever wanted to hear about made-up mysteries. They had no interest at all in the real one that was right under their noses.

NOGODZ20's avatar

That was the first me I ever posted way back on Disqus.

cdbunch's avatar

It's cuter than the source meme, which is why I went for it.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ancient or Middle Kingdom pyramid ? Middle Kingdom pyramids are notorious for being poorly build.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Mark Twain visited the Holy Land and was disappointed and disillusioned by it.

jomicur's avatar

Twain, wonderful skeptic that he was, was disappointed and disillusioned by just about all the humbug on the planet.

larry parker's avatar

Kind of a cynical curmudgeon, IMO. : )

jomicur's avatar

It's like all those christian "archeologists" who scour "the Holy Land" looking for proof the bible is true.

larry parker's avatar

Hey, don't scoff. They've found the Ark dozens of times.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Amazing how the Egyptians and other ancient civilizations somehow managed to survive the Great Flood. Why, it's as if that flood never occurred at all.

cdbunch's avatar

They've found Sodom 3 or 4 times at least.

larry parker's avatar

They also found Tyre. Oops.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Tyre, according to the bible, was destroyed and never to be rebuilt.

This is news to the people of Tyre, as that destruction never happened. Oops is right.

larry parker's avatar

They won't find anything. Mr. Burns took Nessie to Springfield.

NOGODZ20's avatar

They should've taken the time to read the following...

https://skepticalinquirer.org/newsletter/nessie-hoax-redux/

cdbunch's avatar

OT:

https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/08/26/0514240/why-do-cats-love-tuna-so-much-scientists-may-finally-know

The work doesn't just explain why cats have a particular hankering for tuna. It could help manufacturers develop more palatable meals for our finicky friends and even medications that they won't spit across the room.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I want them to explain Aria's love for seafood 😏

cdbunch's avatar

Some mysteries are not meant to be solved.

jomicur's avatar

There are some things man was not meant to know. That must be true; some character utters it in at least half the classic horror films ever made.

jomicur's avatar

My Mandy and Melanie turn up their noses at tuna. Then they give me dirty looks for wasting their time with something they don't want to eat.

cdbunch's avatar

They claim pets resemble their guardians. So it's no surprise your cats would be weird, 😹

NOGODZ20's avatar

Fake news! Cats love lasagna. Just look at Garfield.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Cats love lasagna. Aria loved lasagna. So Aria was a cat ?🤔

NOGODZ20's avatar

In a beef lasagna reference, I was going to do a "Cats don't usually do beef," but it turns out beef is very good for them. It's actually an excellent source of vitamins and minerals. Not only that it's healthy for their muscles and soft tissues because it gives them the building blocks they need to repair.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I already said it, if we except Rhapsodie unrequited love for chocolate, my three dogs loved the food best suited for them.

wreck's avatar

My dog got dry dog food, and whatever might accidentally fall on the floor. He'd inhale those little treats, except the time I dropped an olive on the floor. For some strange reason he wouldn't eat it.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Rhapsodie favorite treats were bananas, persimmons and tofu.

cdbunch's avatar

Sounds like the kind of 'logic' that would have appealed to our 'friend' Greg on the previous article.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Aria was a human too, she chewed her food and slept better tucked under a blanket and with a pillow.

cdbunch's avatar

Garfield is cat propaganda. He's shown to be smarter than Jon.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Twas a jest. 🙂

jomicur's avatar

My late, beloved Kevin, the most fantastic cat I've ever known, was an absolute fiend for pizza (much like his human companion).

NOGODZ20's avatar

Cats truly are wise, despite cdbunch's assertion that they're not all that smart. 🙂

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

OT : for dinner Tteokbokki, fried tofu and fruit salad.

NOGODZ20's avatar

If ah cain't pronounce it, ah ain't eatin' it. 😉

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

So no chicken with Gewürztraminer for you then ?

RegularJoe's avatar

Hähnchen mit Gewürztraminer ist schöne und geschmeckt!

jomicur's avatar

Gewürztraminer ist sehr schöne, punkt.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Heck, that's easy. Thing is, I'm not really a wine consumer.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

What about a pinnekjøtt or a khuushuur ?

jomicur's avatar

You've been taking English lessons from Mr. Mxzyptlk, right?

NOGODZ20's avatar

For the first, I like the combination except the pureed rutabaga. And I'll give the wine a miss.

For the second one? Dumplings? Yes, please. 😋

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Together, fruit salad with a touch of violet syrup is perfect with gochujang 😁

jomicur's avatar

Did you just figure out how to spell a sneeze?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Aaaatchoouum...

Excuse me. You were saying ?

cdbunch's avatar

I hope you enjoy, but it sounds awful to me.

Edit: but then you're a vegan and I'm a meat and potatoes guy. (Just ask my cardiologist)

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Would DM's dinner, chicken ramen with a butter and ham sandwich, more to your taste ?

cdbunch's avatar

Sounds much better.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I loved Asian food way before becoming vegan, DM's fault. I was around 4 the first time she took me to a Chinese restaurant.

A treokbokki is not necessarily a vegan dish, it's a "put whatever you want in it as long as there are tteoks (Korean rice cakes) and a spicy broth/sauce" dish.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

No melons, bananas, raw apples for me.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Protect lives. Save kids...From their governor's clergy.

Mr.E's avatar

he wants kids born in Florida to be as indoctrinated as you find them in North Korea.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Ron DeSantis should be dubbed Kim Jong ILL.

Mr.E's avatar

I think that is a winner. Ron Da Ill sounds like a good DJ name.

XJC's avatar

Too bad Hemant can't control the stupid Substack comment feature losses that keep happening, for no good reason (unless it's part of God's plan, which would perversely make sense).

Hemant Mehta's avatar

I am not sure what's happening with comment losses HOWEVER, if comments get reported, they may end up in moderation. I should check that now...

XJC's avatar

I meant inability of regular users to access basic features of commenting. For example, commenters can no longer see who "likes" their comment; or (on the desktop version) to go to your own comment thread from the Substack Activity screen (instead it puts you at the top of the article and requires scrolling through the entire thread to find your comment); having edits not appear real-time (requiring Save-->Cancel-->refresh-->manually scroll down and find your comment--who the fuck has time for this shit?); and many other annoyances that didn't exist when you resumed on Substack. The mobile application behaves differently than the desktop application (I'm primarily a mobile user). All said, Substack is making changes for the worse, and it's dragging you down with it (and you're not the only one).

XJC's avatar

Hemant, you do a superb job moderating...others spend much more time on this site than I, and may be more perturbed by trolls, but for the most part, trolls (if not responded to) get bored here and move on to more fertile ground.

XJC's avatar

All of this is due to shitty programming and coding. These are very simple applications. Hence why people "like" apps like Facebook, because they work and are easy to use. (It's also why they're abused).

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

OT - My internet is pretty messed up at the moment, most sites timeout before loading anything. I'm really surprised FA loaded, but I have no way of knowing if it is fully loaded. I can't open links, I can't get Outlook to load. I don't know if this is its regular unreliableness, or if it is Idalia's fault. 😤🤬

larry parker's avatar

Were you trying to research CRT. DeInsaneites might have a net nanny.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I can't run the gibberish words through goggle translate. 😔

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Are you on a computer/tablet or your phone ?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Did you try with mobile data on your phone ?

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

My flip phone can't do that. coolpad CP3321AT

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

You'll have to insert the link for "Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit" yourself.

cdbunch's avatar

"He was targeting people based on their race. That is totally unacceptable," DeSantis said.

Apparently it was the use of a gun that Ronnie objected to, since despite declaring a Pulse remembrance day he is doing all he can to kill LGBT people.

larry parker's avatar

And removing Black history from schools.

cdbunch's avatar

Thank you for the reminder, I shouldn't be blinded by what affects me personally.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

"He was targeting people based on their race. That is totally unacceptable," DeSantis said.

He did what DeNazi is doing, so how dare he criticize one of his fanbois.

NOGODZ20's avatar

He was inspired by his governor.

cdbunch's avatar

Who as a spit in the face declared flags be flown at half-mast for a Pulse remembrance day this year. As though that will make people forget his pogrom against LGBT people and kids.

jomicur's avatar

What do you mean? Why, some of his best friends are LGBT people and kids. Especially the really cute ones.

jomicur's avatar

"I wonder why he killed himself?"

Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I don't know. Part of me wants him to spend the rest of his life in jail after being exposed for a creep and a lunatic. But then the publicity might attract other creeps and lunatics.

cdbunch's avatar

See, I'd like to see him a few decades in Hell and then be re-incarnated as a black African woman.

jomicur's avatar

The news article hits one of my pet peeves: "style." ---an "AR-15 style" rifle--- Was it an AR-15 rifle or not? If it was, then "style" is redundant. It it wasn't, why not just identify what it actually was?

cdbunch's avatar

My guess, because the writer either didn't know or didn't think his audience would.

jomicur's avatar

American news people always assume their audience is made up of idiots. Which, for the most part, it is. Because most news people are idiots too. E.g., having mentioned "AR-15 style" weapon, they go on to explain what one is. They could just as easily have explained whatever the actual weapon was. But no, once a cliched turn of phrase takes root with American news people, it never, ever goes away.

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

The rifle is in police custody, the reporters might simply be parroting what they were told.

cdbunch's avatar

The bit about suiting up at a historically black college, though, makes me glad it wasn't much worse. And, technically, the b̸o̸d̸y̸ ̸c̸o̸u̸n̸t̸ number of victims wasn't high enough to count as a mass shooting; not that makes any difference to the families and friends of those killed. It just stuck out at me, given all the shootings that do fit the description that never make national news.

Edit: body count seemed insensitive.

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jomicur's avatar

That's what you get for being a foreigner. You should never have chosen that lifestyle.

cdbunch's avatar

Sorry. See, that's what you get for clicking on all those other articles, trying to stay informed.😁😁

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It's your fault for posting all theses links to get an ignorant French informed 😝

jomicur's avatar

“I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone." --Oscar Wilde

NOGODZ20's avatar

Not me. I can see it.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Gods. More trouble than they're worth.

I think I heard that somewhere. ;)

cdbunch's avatar

Yeah, they killed all their gods and then their moon blew up.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Wonder if Praxis blew before or after they killed their gods.

NOGODZ20's avatar

The destruction of Praxis came during the 23rd Century but it wasn't until the 24th Century that Worf made mention of killing their gods. Maybe Praxis was the final straw for them. :)