Oh, PUL-LEASE!!! Haven't we done this enough times already? Honestly, it's as though people like Olsen have NO idea what has happened in other states regarding the Ten Commandments and they just feel as though they can do this without consequences. Shall we also mention that the kids who go into those classrooms with the TCs posted are NOT NECESSARILY ALL CHRISTIAN???
Meanwhile, let's get the beer and popcorn together while the Freedom From Religion Foundation and American Atheists fall on this with both feet. Should be fun to watch.
I suppose it would be more than they could get their heads around to ask these fools what they think posting the Ten Commandments is going to accomplish. What part of the First Amendment, and our government being forbidden from choosing one religion over another do they fail to understand? People like this tend to see their religion as the answer to every question, and that's as deep as their mental processes take them. I live in the DFW metro, and a great many of those Oklahoma kids go running for DFW the minute they can.
It's already accomplished the only thing it needs to accomplish: throwing red meat to the base. The bill doesn't even need to pass to achieve its purpose- it might even be more successful if it doesn't, because then the bastard gets to martyrbate about it.
There's a new Christian Jeopardy show coming out soon on The Christian Channel. The correct answer to every question is "Who is Jesus?" They expect all 79 million who voted for Trump in 2020 to be watching.
110 years ago the state with the largest and most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma.
Wall Street didn't like that and they sent preachers into the state to convert it to a proper Christian perspective. Folks like Billy Sunday and later Oral Roberts turned the most radical state in the Union into a right wing Christian hellhole. The state that spawned radicals like Woody Guthrie became the state that spawns endless Jimmy Olsens.
The socialist torch got passed to Wisconsin, which state provided most of the socialist candidates who ran for the presidency. Milwaukee was a hotbed of socialism, and for a good portion of the 20th century, the "Sewer Socialists"¹ were the mayors and the majority of the city council there. Look up "Sewer Socialists" on Wikipedia sometime.
¹ So called because of their emphasis on public works projects.
“When a Religion is good, I conceive that it will support itself; and, when it cannot support itself, and God does not take care to support, so that its Professors are oblig'd to call for the help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.” - Benjamin Franklin
I cannot describe how obscene I find this proposal. Never mind the costs and taxpayer dollars (from every taxpayer, no matter their beliefs) and the arrogance to believe everyone (parents, teachers and students) would be served and made better by this; it goes against the norms, the values, the traditions, and the laws as set down in the Constitution. The hypocrisy of it is just mind-blowingly stupid.
Their position is: if these children are so hungry, why don't they go out and get a job? Just like Supply-Side Jesus, Republicans are obsessed with "jobs," so why not?
If the OK politicos continue to pursue shoving religious indoctrination into the public school environment they will quickly transform their educational ranking from 48th to 50th and can brag that they are first in providing the worst education to their children.
Olsen is the reason the key founders said "Keep church and state separate."
In the century prior to the Revolution and the establishment of the secular government, he would have imprisoned, tortured and burned innocent women for witchcraft.
I was visiting Salem MA in October and we did a tour/history of the 1692 trials. The man who was pressed to death, Giles Corey, died on my birthday, 265 years prior.
I find it horribly disingenuous that this guy wants to put up a copy of the Ten Commandments when kids have to worry about being shot in order to learn. If the solution were, in fact, more Jesus in the classroom, I cannot imagine a situation where more children might pray more fervently than when they're being shot at or have the threat of someone shooting at them. Jesus has yet to stop any school shootings that I'm aware of.
Quite honestly, I regard any god who refuses to help children in danger as complicit in whatever Bad Stuff happens to those children. A copy of the Decalogue on the wall makes zero difference to me, and I see no reason for the government to pay for such a thing in any event. We're still talking about a theoretical god that isn't helping the most helpless members of society, and if said god's logic is 'but I got kicked out!' then I want nothing to do with him anyway.
TL,DR: Religious territory marking is still territory marking, and the government shouldn't endorse that nonsense. Find other walls for your religious graffiti, Christians, and leave public schools alone.
Who knows what the Clerics on SCOTUS will do, but it's not like having God shoved on everyone ever did a damn thing to make the world or America a better place.
Certainly didn't stop the Tulsa Massacre from happening.
Turns out [all] this denial of what our Constitution says proves that excessive religious belief makes you stupid, a fascist bigot, or both.
In this case, these men qualify for both.
Authoritarian government and conservative religion have always been natural allies. It is the symbiotic relationship from hell.
Oh, PUL-LEASE!!! Haven't we done this enough times already? Honestly, it's as though people like Olsen have NO idea what has happened in other states regarding the Ten Commandments and they just feel as though they can do this without consequences. Shall we also mention that the kids who go into those classrooms with the TCs posted are NOT NECESSARILY ALL CHRISTIAN???
Meanwhile, let's get the beer and popcorn together while the Freedom From Religion Foundation and American Atheists fall on this with both feet. Should be fun to watch.
They keep playing this game of christofascist wak-a-mole because they hope eventually this SCOTUS will rule in their favor. They may be right.
“… the kids who go into those classrooms with the TCs posted are NOT NECESSARILY ALL CHRISTIAN???”
And they are ones who need Jesus the most (sarc).
No, there's at least thirty something states to go!
I suppose it would be more than they could get their heads around to ask these fools what they think posting the Ten Commandments is going to accomplish. What part of the First Amendment, and our government being forbidden from choosing one religion over another do they fail to understand? People like this tend to see their religion as the answer to every question, and that's as deep as their mental processes take them. I live in the DFW metro, and a great many of those Oklahoma kids go running for DFW the minute they can.
It's already accomplished the only thing it needs to accomplish: throwing red meat to the base. The bill doesn't even need to pass to achieve its purpose- it might even be more successful if it doesn't, because then the bastard gets to martyrbate about it.
If this somehow squeaks through (until a lawsuit stops it), the amendments to our Constitution should be placed right next to the commandments.
There's a new Christian Jeopardy show coming out soon on The Christian Channel. The correct answer to every question is "Who is Jesus?" They expect all 79 million who voted for Trump in 2020 to be watching.
I assume you're being snarky, but in this day and age, who knows. lol
Silly, it's tradition, not religion.
They're out of ideas once they get beyond the traditon.
Murka was founded as a kkkristian nation, dontcha know?
Never mind the fact that 5 of the 7 key founders were Deists.
110 years ago the state with the largest and most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma.
Wall Street didn't like that and they sent preachers into the state to convert it to a proper Christian perspective. Folks like Billy Sunday and later Oral Roberts turned the most radical state in the Union into a right wing Christian hellhole. The state that spawned radicals like Woody Guthrie became the state that spawns endless Jimmy Olsens.
Far right preachers invaded 110 years ago, 103 years ago was the Tulsa Race Massacre. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but....
It does, however, sometimes wink very emphatically while jabbing its elbow in your ribs and saying "Get it? 𝘎𝘦𝘵 𝘪𝘵?"
The socialist torch got passed to Wisconsin, which state provided most of the socialist candidates who ran for the presidency. Milwaukee was a hotbed of socialism, and for a good portion of the 20th century, the "Sewer Socialists"¹ were the mayors and the majority of the city council there. Look up "Sewer Socialists" on Wikipedia sometime.
¹ So called because of their emphasis on public works projects.
Hmmmmm........he has a BA in business....I would have guessed journalism, just based on the name. 🤔
Bullshit Artist. From Oklahoma Baptist College. And this IS his busine$$.
SUNY Albany, sadly.
Mostly, I think he just wants to give US the business! 😝
WWSD?
“When a Religion is good, I conceive that it will support itself; and, when it cannot support itself, and God does not take care to support, so that its Professors are oblig'd to call for the help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.” - Benjamin Franklin
When I was a kid, I would have had fun defacing those and adding my own commandments, such as
THOU SHALT NOT SERVE SAUERKRAUT WITH HOT DOGS IN THE CAFETERIA.
Sounds great. Somebody needs to do it. Otherwise the reds will. Sort of like the pig who did the night time corrections to the 'law' in Animal Farm.
I cannot describe how obscene I find this proposal. Never mind the costs and taxpayer dollars (from every taxpayer, no matter their beliefs) and the arrogance to believe everyone (parents, teachers and students) would be served and made better by this; it goes against the norms, the values, the traditions, and the laws as set down in the Constitution. The hypocrisy of it is just mind-blowingly stupid.
End of rant...
Can I still covet my neighbors ass??? Just wondering.
As long as you don't burro too deep.
Oh God a pun thread – I'll bray for you both.
The best ones are in Donkey Hotay
You can lead a commenter to a pun thread, but you can't make them whinny.
We're pretty mulish when it comes to pun threads.
It is all asinine.
I refuse to e mule ate you
Quell chance que nous soyons ane onyme.
As long as you don't do it too hard.
Nebraska, Iowa, and Texas have assholes for governors, but Nebraska and Iowa's said it out loud.
All three have declined to participate in this plan for hungry children:
https://www.fns.usda.gov/sebt/implementation
Iowa kids can use their employee discount from the meat packing plant.
So has Floriduh.
New Years Resolutions:
WOMAN: "I need to read more."
MAN: "Gotta start exercising again."
WOMAN: "I want to learn a new language."
REPUBLICAN: "I'm gonna ban free lunches for school children."
What do you want to bet half the people who would have benefited from this program voted for these assholes?
Their position is: if these children are so hungry, why don't they go out and get a job? Just like Supply-Side Jesus, Republicans are obsessed with "jobs," so why not?
Well, I guess they can stop calling themselves "pro-life."
They've rebranded the word life.
Another game of whack-a-mole for FFRF.
Going to need a bigger mallet.
That mole takes a beating when FFRF is around!
The game that never ends.
When you have no real policy ideas, but still need to look like you're doing 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 so that your own leopards don't snack on your face...
Olsane really take "Les derniers seront les premiers" a little too far. Is he that jealous of the 50th ?
If the OK politicos continue to pursue shoving religious indoctrination into the public school environment they will quickly transform their educational ranking from 48th to 50th and can brag that they are first in providing the worst education to their children.
Olsen is the reason the key founders said "Keep church and state separate."
In the century prior to the Revolution and the establishment of the secular government, he would have imprisoned, tortured and burned innocent women for witchcraft.
Only change is they dropped the fiction of witchcraft.
Are you sure about that?
Okay they quit using fire.
https://www.nesl.edu/blog/detail/a-true-legal-horror-story-the-laws-leading-to-the-salem-witch-trials
I was visiting Salem MA in October and we did a tour/history of the 1692 trials. The man who was pressed to death, Giles Corey, died on my birthday, 265 years prior.
I find it horribly disingenuous that this guy wants to put up a copy of the Ten Commandments when kids have to worry about being shot in order to learn. If the solution were, in fact, more Jesus in the classroom, I cannot imagine a situation where more children might pray more fervently than when they're being shot at or have the threat of someone shooting at them. Jesus has yet to stop any school shootings that I'm aware of.
Quite honestly, I regard any god who refuses to help children in danger as complicit in whatever Bad Stuff happens to those children. A copy of the Decalogue on the wall makes zero difference to me, and I see no reason for the government to pay for such a thing in any event. We're still talking about a theoretical god that isn't helping the most helpless members of society, and if said god's logic is 'but I got kicked out!' then I want nothing to do with him anyway.
TL,DR: Religious territory marking is still territory marking, and the government shouldn't endorse that nonsense. Find other walls for your religious graffiti, Christians, and leave public schools alone.
Who knows what the Clerics on SCOTUS will do, but it's not like having God shoved on everyone ever did a damn thing to make the world or America a better place.
Certainly didn't stop the Tulsa Massacre from happening.
I read "Tulsa Burning" by Tim Madigan. Also "Mountain Meadows Massacre" One about race, the latter about religion and race.
Or Irish killing each others for centuries.
It DID stop xmas for a few years. The true joy of religious superstition.