"It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that the leader of the Republican Party is a person who allegedly paid someone to take his SATs for him, is currently on his third marriage, and ignored his children when they were younger."
I can't really believe so many people did vote for him. It says a lot of USA, what kind of country it is. Then I remember their history of slavery. Lots of people actually faught to keep using people as slaves. And it took ages to do something about segregation and jim crowe rules.
There's an imperial tonne of grievance culture on both ends of the political spectrum right now. Frankly, I would bet half the people who voted for Trump and love him don't know or care what he did or what doctrine he governs by, so long as he "pwns" people, throws tantrums, and lashes out at the world...because that lets them daydream/lash out vicariously through him.
The dude has swung from complete isolationist to massive interventionist in just over a year, and the people who follow him said they loved the first position and now say they love the second. So it's obviously not about actual policy, it's more about being able to "stick it" to some perceived enemy. When your enemy is Harris you attack interventionism. But when your enemy is Maduro, you full bore intervene. His followers don't care about the obvious hypocrisy - they give zero thought to policy at all, so long as he feeds the anger inside.
As a matter of fact yes, and I live in freaking Australia. Yet lo and behold, I'm at a restaurant eating lunch and in walks a guy in a fucking MAGA hat, covered in white supremacist tattoos. I felt so horribly threatened and unsafe having him in the room that I ran out of there as soon as I finished eating, and informed staff on the way out that I did not feel safe with that man present. And I'm white.
Yes, and why have you not fed that bastard to the alligators by now? We have a few Trump wannabes but none have been able to attract a true cult, probably because our culture doesn't go in for treating politicians like celebrities and nor do they hold those creepy as hell rallies where they get everyone all whipped up into a frenzy waving signs with their names on them. The closest we have to MAGA are the cookers, and they're a tiny minority who nobody in their right mind takes the least bit seriously.
A few. Especially a co-worker who's husband got a job in USA after DT had started his first period. He was okay, but she was crazy a.f. I blocked her to keep my inner peace.
There are a great many people who, through no fault of their own, have been dealt terrible hands in life. People who have had the deck stacked against them from birth. This measure smacks of the old, worn-out idea that a person's lack of success is their own fault, and a clear sign they do not have God's favor. If this was a good program for children the Heritage Foundation wouldn't be supporting it. Their goal is the creation of a permanent American underclass, forever under the boot-heels of those who were born to rule.
Why is marriage pointed to as a stepping stone for success when half of all marriages end in divorce? That's a failure rate of 50%. That can't possibly promote success.
Xians behave as they invented marriage. That's what they believe. And of course they want to ban divorces and consider kids borned out of wedlock as evil.
Back when women couldn't get a divorce, a lot of them resorted to murdering their abusive husbands. So if you make it illegal you're actively endangering men's lives. Albeit men who generally deserve what they get.
My mother would have agreed with you. She finally left my dad. AFTER i had moved out to start a home with my now husband. I never forgave her that she waited to leave my father so that I never experienced a peaceful home when I was a kid and teenager. To be clear, I loved my mum anyway.
I don't think marriage is part of the sequence on it's own, it's mentioned only in relation to children. I.e. 'married then have children' typically makes more money and avoids poverty better than 'unmarried has children.' Because of course, you have two adults in the mix taking care of one child. That means fewer costs associated with childcare (if one of them does the childcare) or more money to pay for it (if both work instead), or some mix of those two solutions.
But note marriage as an institution adds nothing to that mix; what's really causing the benefit is the sharing of childcare costs and duties between two adults. Could be unmarried couple. Could be man and woman or woman and woman or man and man. Could be divorced parents working together. Heck, could be an extended family situation i.e. parent and grandparent, parent and sibling, etc.
The vast majority of single parent homes have women as that single parent. This success sequence is for men to follow. If the marriage doesn’t work out, or they get mixed up in the last part, the responsibility for the failure is on the women. Men will still be able to succeed, untethered or with a new family.
The hell of it is, I've spent most of my life in the Buckeye State, and I love it here. I've moved away from my original hometown of Cleveland, but I'm only an hour away from its rich cultural life and eclectic population.
Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati are patches of blue in a state forced RED by Republicans who care for power and influence more than they do serving Ohioans.
No one is talking about the elephant in the room. The model of success they’re promoting with specific emphasis on getting married and having children is historically oppressive to women. Every policy the right is trying to pursue in regards to so many aspects of life, but especially marriage, women are being shoved back into the artificial box that was the 1950s middle class propaganda we see today. The Leave it to Beaver life everybody lived back then. June was fine, but our actual grandmothers were not. There was physical abuse, systemic societal as well as individual financial abuse, women were drugged and lobotomized, or turned to drugs and alcohol to bear the trauma of those lives. This formula they are trying to legislate means that women are thrown back into maintaining households rather than having careers, because they’re not stopping with this. They’re actively working to eliminate our right to vote, no-fault divorce, financial independence, and even work outside the home. The SAVE act puts up real barriers to women voting. The end of Roe v. Wade means they can be baby trapped into marriage to meet the requirements of this success model, then face decades of forced reproduction until her body gives out.
Sure, finishing high school, possibly further education, finding a full time job, partnering with another person, then having kids does improve odds of success. But if the partner you chose, or was chosen for you or forced on you because …pregnant, doesn’t actually like you and thinks of you only as a bang maid, no it’s not a success.
But you can’t argue these types of things in legislatures, you have to pretend these abuses, this oppression doesn’t really exist. You have to massage the egos of the majority older white men who run shit so they don’t get upset that they’re the fucking problem and why there are so many struggling people. Because these men are fragile little ticking time bombs. Well, they’ve already blown up. Fucking Bitch.
It's the Heritage Foundation. They see most of those things as positives, not negatives.
As someone on this thread as well as many many many other people have said before, if Ohio really wants to prevent the spiral of early single pregnancies leading to drop outs and poverty-ridden life outcomes, (1) teach comprehensive sex ed and (2) make prophylaxis readily and cheaply available.
They know what works. They just reject it because it leads to more and better educated women in the workforce, and who have fewer children later in life.
It was most middle class homes, in the suburbs. But it was not a reality for a lot of people, especially people of color. Also, the Leave it to Beaver smiles were a facade for many more families. When the family kept it to two children (or the average 2.5) it was manageable, but my mother was born and raised with 8 brothers and sisters in a family struggling to present that face of happy family. And her neighbors all struggled too. But even with the two children limit, there was still a great deal of abuse just under the surface. Leave it to Beaver was not an aberration for family structure, but it was propaganda about the satisfaction and happiness of the lifestyle. In exactly the same way Friends was propaganda about young adulthood, or Home Improvement was propaganda about 90s home life.
There were great things about that time, you touched on unions and how they lifted all wages, and just the stability of that one job. Mainly, what we did then was hold corporations and the wealthy responsible for the well being of their workers and the economy, those entities that could actually make a difference. Nowadays, the people least able to sustain the economy are being forced to sustain the economy, the poor and shrinking middle class.
I know you are right about your pocket of the world at that time. I’m not arguing with you.
It must have been about 1970; we could see most of our neighbors' backyards from ours. Well, one day a guy came running out of his house, grabbed his young teenage daughter, and started (literally) kicking her in the ass. Then he dragged her into their house. My parent's response, none of our business. The good old days when spousal and child abuse was shrugged off.
There's a very interesting supply/demand discussion to be had there. Specifically, yes the price of houses, cars, college etc. will rise as more families work two incomes, which in turn creates a vicious cycle of requiring OTHER families to work two incomes if they wish to afford a house. A rather nasty unintended consequence of more freedom.
However, the price is clearly worth the gain (IMO). How could it not be? We are talking a traditional way that kept half the population as an underclass just to keep the price of goods down - no way is that an ethical or even reasonable trade to make. We had to get rid of single-income-family as an imposed social convention. In more anecdotal terms, just as a person's right to swing their fist ends at their neighbors' nose**, a person's right to choose a single income family life ends at their neigbbor's right to choose otherwise.
The state that gave us John Glenn and Neil Armstrong now ranks 38th overall, 41st in natural environment, 30th in education overall (and 41st in higher education), 39th in economy, 34th in health care, 30th in crime and corrections, 30th in infrastructure and 25th in fiscal stability,
Nothing for the Buckeye State to brag about. It appears they have a raft of problems that need addressing. They shouldn't be wasting time and taxpayer dollars on ludicrous legislation like this.
It's worth keeping in mind, too, that the state has been in Republican hands since 1991, when Dick Celeste was governor. He was a decent guy and the state was reliably purple back then. Since that time, we've had Voinovich, Kasich, and now DeWine.
I always found it counterintuitive that a Midwest state also gave us Les Wexner (Victoria’s Secret, Arthur Shapiro death in questionable circumstances, relationship with Epstein, involvement in that airline that was a CIA front moving to Ohio, accusations of abuse work environment, etc). Ok, just so you know, I spent a lot of time in Ohio for business, and there are many good people there.
They don't want statewide health curriculum standards. That would entail teaching kids comprehensive sex education. Instead they want to teach the kids that the only possible way to be successful in life is to follow the quiverfull playbook. Man marries woman and works his ass off to pay the bills while the woman stays in the kitchen pushing out babies, all while indoctrinating them to stay inside the narrow little boxes that their far right Christianity defines. If the family ends up poor, so what? That's just more desperate workers who will slave away for pennies 80 hours a week.
This is my home state, where the people told Mike DeWine and the Republicans that they wanted available abortion care in no uncertain terms, then those same Republicans did their damnedest to try to make abortions harder to get.
These fuckers seem to be able only to listen to themselves and not the people.
Well when people vote for them regardless of what they do, why should they listen?
One of the major problems with the strong partisanship we have now is that it reduces elected leaders' need to do what constituents want. If nothing matters except the (D) or (R) next to your name on the ballot, you can do what you want in office.
I have to wonder how many rural voters are just voting knee-jerk. They see the (R), and that's where their vote goes. They don't even bother to look at the actions of those they put into office, but they're perfectly willing to bitch about the circumstances they live under.
My mind went wandering, and tried to consider what might happen if every last election either deleted all party designations, or just dropped an (R) after every name.
While backing away quietly, I did sort of wonder of we as Americans deserve that sort of massive trolling.
1. Student learns how to critically analyze when a claim is based on correlation vs. causation.
2. Student learns how to critically analyze when a condition is necessary, sufficient, or neither. Importantly recognizing that many conditions fall under 'neither'.
3. Student is taught how to distinguish partisan rhetoric and anecdote from methodologically well-conducted science.
5. Student learns that life is a collection of vagaries and that there is no guarantee of success.
6. Student learns to recognize change and adapt and flex to the world around him or her, and that the ability to "do the dance" is at least one tool which may nurture success.
I wonder if it has occurred to Senator Cutrona that there are PLENTY of people who got a high school education, found work, and married before having children, and STILL wound up either in poverty or in a home situation that was financially and/or emotionally untenable. This is the brand of reductionist, simplistic thinking that the Republican party has been indulging in entirely to much lately.
I hear you, and I've known a couple, myself. As you may have guessed, I was thinking of a certain occupant of a certain House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW.
And your mention of "peaking at 18" reminds me of the Ballad of Brenda and Eddie and that wonderful story that Billy Joel tells so well.
Modern Conservatism has been on a long march to Authoritarianism and Theofascism. Their primary tenets have been that there are easy, simple answers to life's complex situations and if you would just do as I say (not as I do) you too can be successful... if you are a white man. They find the whole concept of the Common Welfare distasteful and would be perfectly happy in the Dickensian picture of Victorian Society.
-- Major Frank Burns, 4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital
I sometimes wonder if Larry Linville had a grasp of just what he was saying then. Yeah, I know that he was NOT "Frank Burns," which makes his ability to give that line with a straight face all the more impressive.
If he has, he does not care. After all, (in his mind) if you have done all those things and ate still poor and abused by your spouse, it's because you're a filthy sinner who deserves it.
I'm betting that bit about a high school education goes 𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 out the window when the child labor laws get rolled back far enough to put middle-schoolers in meat-packing plants. Any takers?
Completely OT: Yes, there actually is a computer programming language called Brainfuck. (Wonder how "Proficient in C++, Brainfuck, Ada..." would look on a resume? 🤔)
Never got into COBOL, though I think I may have looked at some code ages back. I cut my teeth on Case Algol back in college, then PDP-8 machine code (which I got pretty good at!), then FORTRAN much later.
I did fool around with C a bit. Hell, my "Learn C in 21 Days" is sitting on my file cabinet next to me. It never really stuck with me, though, and didn't use it much.
“Success Sequence” involves doing three specific things: ̶C̶o̶m̶p̶l̶e̶t̶e̶ ̶“̶a̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶h̶i̶g̶h̶ ̶s̶c̶h̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶e̶d̶u̶c̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶,̶”̶ ̶“̶o̶b̶t̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶f̶u̶l̶l̶-̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶,̶”̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶“̶m̶a̶r̶r̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶r̶e̶n̶.̶”̶ Funding early childhood education, Supporting parents and children living in poverty with food assistance and social services including family planning, teaching children critical thinking skills from grades 1-12.
Let us also note that it has been the Republican party that has pushed the idea of vouchers and "School Choice," which has only served to weaken the public school systems that have been subjected to that idiocy, without really IMPROVING education at all.
I didn’t follow that sequence at all and had a successful career, traveled, married, divorced, one kid with a PhD and another getting their Masters. (Insert gif of thumbing my nose at the Ohio lege here).
"It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that the leader of the Republican Party is a person who allegedly paid someone to take his SATs for him, is currently on his third marriage, and ignored his children when they were younger."
And those are his better qualities. 😉
He's also a pedophile, rapist and tax cheat.
Don't forget racist as fuck.
Cheats at golf.
Is that like Cemetery Ball? 😉
I can't really believe so many people did vote for him. It says a lot of USA, what kind of country it is. Then I remember their history of slavery. Lots of people actually faught to keep using people as slaves. And it took ages to do something about segregation and jim crowe rules.
There's an imperial tonne of grievance culture on both ends of the political spectrum right now. Frankly, I would bet half the people who voted for Trump and love him don't know or care what he did or what doctrine he governs by, so long as he "pwns" people, throws tantrums, and lashes out at the world...because that lets them daydream/lash out vicariously through him.
The dude has swung from complete isolationist to massive interventionist in just over a year, and the people who follow him said they loved the first position and now say they love the second. So it's obviously not about actual policy, it's more about being able to "stick it" to some perceived enemy. When your enemy is Harris you attack interventionism. But when your enemy is Maduro, you full bore intervene. His followers don't care about the obvious hypocrisy - they give zero thought to policy at all, so long as he feeds the anger inside.
Solid. 🫡
Have you met these....um.....'people'?
As a matter of fact yes, and I live in freaking Australia. Yet lo and behold, I'm at a restaurant eating lunch and in walks a guy in a fucking MAGA hat, covered in white supremacist tattoos. I felt so horribly threatened and unsafe having him in the room that I ran out of there as soon as I finished eating, and informed staff on the way out that I did not feel safe with that man present. And I'm white.
I don't blame you. Do your MAGAts worship Trump or do y'all have a Trump-analogue?
(And, to be fair, you did release Rupert Murdoch on us. 😉)
Yes, and why have you not fed that bastard to the alligators by now? We have a few Trump wannabes but none have been able to attract a true cult, probably because our culture doesn't go in for treating politicians like celebrities and nor do they hold those creepy as hell rallies where they get everyone all whipped up into a frenzy waving signs with their names on them. The closest we have to MAGA are the cookers, and they're a tiny minority who nobody in their right mind takes the least bit seriously.
A few. Especially a co-worker who's husband got a job in USA after DT had started his first period. He was okay, but she was crazy a.f. I blocked her to keep my inner peace.
There are a great many people who, through no fault of their own, have been dealt terrible hands in life. People who have had the deck stacked against them from birth. This measure smacks of the old, worn-out idea that a person's lack of success is their own fault, and a clear sign they do not have God's favor. If this was a good program for children the Heritage Foundation wouldn't be supporting it. Their goal is the creation of a permanent American underclass, forever under the boot-heels of those who were born to rule.
And that whole process has been exacerbated by the movement of wealth from the middle class to the one percent.
That's what supply-side (Trickle down) economics was all about. It was never intended to boost the economy.
Correct. But all those classic Christmas movies told me poor people are happy and ok with being poor?
So was the opinion of people like Sam Goldwyn, Louis Mayer, and Jack Warner, none of whom likely knew fuck-all about characters such as George Bailey.
The little-known “lost ending” of “It’s a Wonderful Life” introduced by William Shatner
youtu.be/vw89o0afb2A
Another cherished right wing myth.
Why is marriage pointed to as a stepping stone for success when half of all marriages end in divorce? That's a failure rate of 50%. That can't possibly promote success.
Their next bill? Making divorce illegal.
Good luck on that one, eh? Xtians didn’t invent marriage and they don’t own it.
Xians behave as they invented marriage. That's what they believe. And of course they want to ban divorces and consider kids borned out of wedlock as evil.
Getting rid of no-fault divorce, yes.
Back when women couldn't get a divorce, a lot of them resorted to murdering their abusive husbands. So if you make it illegal you're actively endangering men's lives. Albeit men who generally deserve what they get.
Actor/writer/director/producer/musician Seth MacFarlane is quite successful and has never been married.
The leading cause of divorce is….marriage. No marriage, no divorce. Easy peasy.
I know. Took me twice to figure that out.
I have a great track record on marriage. I’ve never tied the knot. No divorces.
Ah, sweet untroubled bachelorhood.
My mother would have agreed with you. She finally left my dad. AFTER i had moved out to start a home with my now husband. I never forgave her that she waited to leave my father so that I never experienced a peaceful home when I was a kid and teenager. To be clear, I loved my mum anyway.
I don't think marriage is part of the sequence on it's own, it's mentioned only in relation to children. I.e. 'married then have children' typically makes more money and avoids poverty better than 'unmarried has children.' Because of course, you have two adults in the mix taking care of one child. That means fewer costs associated with childcare (if one of them does the childcare) or more money to pay for it (if both work instead), or some mix of those two solutions.
But note marriage as an institution adds nothing to that mix; what's really causing the benefit is the sharing of childcare costs and duties between two adults. Could be unmarried couple. Could be man and woman or woman and woman or man and man. Could be divorced parents working together. Heck, could be an extended family situation i.e. parent and grandparent, parent and sibling, etc.
I am frankly surprised their formula did not specify marriage to someone of the opposite sex.
The vast majority of single parent homes have women as that single parent. This success sequence is for men to follow. If the marriage doesn’t work out, or they get mixed up in the last part, the responsibility for the failure is on the women. Men will still be able to succeed, untethered or with a new family.
I'm glad Ohio has solved all their other problems so they cane waste time on this nonsense.
The hell of it is, I've spent most of my life in the Buckeye State, and I love it here. I've moved away from my original hometown of Cleveland, but I'm only an hour away from its rich cultural life and eclectic population.
Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati are patches of blue in a state forced RED by Republicans who care for power and influence more than they do serving Ohioans.
No one is talking about the elephant in the room. The model of success they’re promoting with specific emphasis on getting married and having children is historically oppressive to women. Every policy the right is trying to pursue in regards to so many aspects of life, but especially marriage, women are being shoved back into the artificial box that was the 1950s middle class propaganda we see today. The Leave it to Beaver life everybody lived back then. June was fine, but our actual grandmothers were not. There was physical abuse, systemic societal as well as individual financial abuse, women were drugged and lobotomized, or turned to drugs and alcohol to bear the trauma of those lives. This formula they are trying to legislate means that women are thrown back into maintaining households rather than having careers, because they’re not stopping with this. They’re actively working to eliminate our right to vote, no-fault divorce, financial independence, and even work outside the home. The SAVE act puts up real barriers to women voting. The end of Roe v. Wade means they can be baby trapped into marriage to meet the requirements of this success model, then face decades of forced reproduction until her body gives out.
Sure, finishing high school, possibly further education, finding a full time job, partnering with another person, then having kids does improve odds of success. But if the partner you chose, or was chosen for you or forced on you because …pregnant, doesn’t actually like you and thinks of you only as a bang maid, no it’s not a success.
But you can’t argue these types of things in legislatures, you have to pretend these abuses, this oppression doesn’t really exist. You have to massage the egos of the majority older white men who run shit so they don’t get upset that they’re the fucking problem and why there are so many struggling people. Because these men are fragile little ticking time bombs. Well, they’ve already blown up. Fucking Bitch.
It's the Heritage Foundation. They see most of those things as positives, not negatives.
As someone on this thread as well as many many many other people have said before, if Ohio really wants to prevent the spiral of early single pregnancies leading to drop outs and poverty-ridden life outcomes, (1) teach comprehensive sex ed and (2) make prophylaxis readily and cheaply available.
They know what works. They just reject it because it leads to more and better educated women in the workforce, and who have fewer children later in life.
They also like to claim that comprehensive sex ed 𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑠 promiscuity and teen pregnancy.
Damned well said, Val!
It was most middle class homes, in the suburbs. But it was not a reality for a lot of people, especially people of color. Also, the Leave it to Beaver smiles were a facade for many more families. When the family kept it to two children (or the average 2.5) it was manageable, but my mother was born and raised with 8 brothers and sisters in a family struggling to present that face of happy family. And her neighbors all struggled too. But even with the two children limit, there was still a great deal of abuse just under the surface. Leave it to Beaver was not an aberration for family structure, but it was propaganda about the satisfaction and happiness of the lifestyle. In exactly the same way Friends was propaganda about young adulthood, or Home Improvement was propaganda about 90s home life.
There were great things about that time, you touched on unions and how they lifted all wages, and just the stability of that one job. Mainly, what we did then was hold corporations and the wealthy responsible for the well being of their workers and the economy, those entities that could actually make a difference. Nowadays, the people least able to sustain the economy are being forced to sustain the economy, the poor and shrinking middle class.
I know you are right about your pocket of the world at that time. I’m not arguing with you.
It must have been about 1970; we could see most of our neighbors' backyards from ours. Well, one day a guy came running out of his house, grabbed his young teenage daughter, and started (literally) kicking her in the ass. Then he dragged her into their house. My parent's response, none of our business. The good old days when spousal and child abuse was shrugged off.
There's a very interesting supply/demand discussion to be had there. Specifically, yes the price of houses, cars, college etc. will rise as more families work two incomes, which in turn creates a vicious cycle of requiring OTHER families to work two incomes if they wish to afford a house. A rather nasty unintended consequence of more freedom.
However, the price is clearly worth the gain (IMO). How could it not be? We are talking a traditional way that kept half the population as an underclass just to keep the price of goods down - no way is that an ethical or even reasonable trade to make. We had to get rid of single-income-family as an imposed social convention. In more anecdotal terms, just as a person's right to swing their fist ends at their neighbors' nose**, a person's right to choose a single income family life ends at their neigbbor's right to choose otherwise.
**ICE excepted, evidently.
Let's run the numbers, shall we?'
The state that gave us John Glenn and Neil Armstrong now ranks 38th overall, 41st in natural environment, 30th in education overall (and 41st in higher education), 39th in economy, 34th in health care, 30th in crime and corrections, 30th in infrastructure and 25th in fiscal stability,
Nothing for the Buckeye State to brag about. It appears they have a raft of problems that need addressing. They shouldn't be wasting time and taxpayer dollars on ludicrous legislation like this.
It's worth keeping in mind, too, that the state has been in Republican hands since 1991, when Dick Celeste was governor. He was a decent guy and the state was reliably purple back then. Since that time, we've had Voinovich, Kasich, and now DeWine.
And yeah, the path HAS been downhill.
I always found it counterintuitive that a Midwest state also gave us Les Wexner (Victoria’s Secret, Arthur Shapiro death in questionable circumstances, relationship with Epstein, involvement in that airline that was a CIA front moving to Ohio, accusations of abuse work environment, etc). Ok, just so you know, I spent a lot of time in Ohio for business, and there are many good people there.
The more he more time they spend on ludicrous legislation means that they don't have to spend time solving real problems.
The GOP has shown time and again that they are incapable of governing. The only thing they know how to do is rule. And that's not the same at all.
𝐴𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑑, “𝑂ℎ𝑖𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑤𝑖𝑑𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑢𝑚 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑑𝑠.” 𝑆𝑜 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑑𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑠, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦’𝑟𝑒 𝑡𝑟𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑓𝑢𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑠.
They don't want statewide health curriculum standards. That would entail teaching kids comprehensive sex education. Instead they want to teach the kids that the only possible way to be successful in life is to follow the quiverfull playbook. Man marries woman and works his ass off to pay the bills while the woman stays in the kitchen pushing out babies, all while indoctrinating them to stay inside the narrow little boxes that their far right Christianity defines. If the family ends up poor, so what? That's just more desperate workers who will slave away for pennies 80 hours a week.
This is my home state, where the people told Mike DeWine and the Republicans that they wanted available abortion care in no uncertain terms, then those same Republicans did their damnedest to try to make abortions harder to get.
These fuckers seem to be able only to listen to themselves and not the people.
Well when people vote for them regardless of what they do, why should they listen?
One of the major problems with the strong partisanship we have now is that it reduces elected leaders' need to do what constituents want. If nothing matters except the (D) or (R) next to your name on the ballot, you can do what you want in office.
I have to wonder how many rural voters are just voting knee-jerk. They see the (R), and that's where their vote goes. They don't even bother to look at the actions of those they put into office, but they're perfectly willing to bitch about the circumstances they live under.
It's a rather frightening level of cluelessness.
My mind went wandering, and tried to consider what might happen if every last election either deleted all party designations, or just dropped an (R) after every name.
While backing away quietly, I did sort of wonder of we as Americans deserve that sort of massive trolling.
The extreme partisanship on the reich is caused by gerrymandering.
They know what’s better for you than you do. 🙄
SUUUUUUUUURE they do. I don't think they want to try that shit on me. They won't like the consequences.
Alternative success sequence:
1. Student learns how to critically analyze when a claim is based on correlation vs. causation.
2. Student learns how to critically analyze when a condition is necessary, sufficient, or neither. Importantly recognizing that many conditions fall under 'neither'.
3. Student is taught how to distinguish partisan rhetoric and anecdote from methodologically well-conducted science.
4. Student applies 1-3 to the Ohio lesson.
5. Student learns that life is a collection of vagaries and that there is no guarantee of success.
6. Student learns to recognize change and adapt and flex to the world around him or her, and that the ability to "do the dance" is at least one tool which may nurture success.
I wonder if it has occurred to Senator Cutrona that there are PLENTY of people who got a high school education, found work, and married before having children, and STILL wound up either in poverty or in a home situation that was financially and/or emotionally untenable. This is the brand of reductionist, simplistic thinking that the Republican party has been indulging in entirely to much lately.
And they need to be called on it.
There are also people who had their lives handed to them on golden platters and still managed to fail at everything.
IZZAT a fact? Wow! Do you actually KNOW of anyone like that? [giggle-giggle ... GUFFAW!]
One in particular, and I've known several. I had high school classmates who pretty well peaked out in life at 18.
I hear you, and I've known a couple, myself. As you may have guessed, I was thinking of a certain occupant of a certain House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW.
And your mention of "peaking at 18" reminds me of the Ballad of Brenda and Eddie and that wonderful story that Billy Joel tells so well.
Modern Conservatism has been on a long march to Authoritarianism and Theofascism. Their primary tenets have been that there are easy, simple answers to life's complex situations and if you would just do as I say (not as I do) you too can be successful... if you are a white man. They find the whole concept of the Common Welfare distasteful and would be perfectly happy in the Dickensian picture of Victorian Society.
𝑈𝑛𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑤𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚, 𝑢𝑛𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑤𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑦, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑓𝑟𝑒𝑒.
-- Major Frank Burns, 4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital
I sometimes wonder if Larry Linville had a grasp of just what he was saying then. Yeah, I know that he was NOT "Frank Burns," which makes his ability to give that line with a straight face all the more impressive.
I came to think that Linville was a great actor. Offhand, I can’t think of anything else I’ve seen him in and I find that strange.
ETA: looked him up on Wiki. Lots of one-time appearances on shows like Love Boat and some shows that didn’t last.
Also, married 5 times.
If he has, he does not care. After all, (in his mind) if you have done all those things and ate still poor and abused by your spouse, it's because you're a filthy sinner who deserves it.
There is a proper order.
1. Be born rich.
Unfortunately, that says it all.
I'm betting that bit about a high school education goes 𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 out the window when the child labor laws get rolled back far enough to put middle-schoolers in meat-packing plants. Any takers?
Nah, hypocrisy never bothers Republicans.
Completely OT: Yes, there actually is a computer programming language called Brainfuck. (Wonder how "Proficient in C++, Brainfuck, Ada..." would look on a resume? 🤔)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
Probably better than my CV, with specialties in FORTRAN, QuickBASIC, and dBase! 😝
All three of those self-taught, BTW!
I learned Pascal. Don't remember a thing about it.
I heard of Pascal and that it was a highly structured language. It never got used at work, though, so I never picked it up.
You're not missing a thing.
No COBOL? ;)
Edited
Never got into COBOL, though I think I may have looked at some code ages back. I cut my teeth on Case Algol back in college, then PDP-8 machine code (which I got pretty good at!), then FORTRAN much later.
I did fool around with C a bit. Hell, my "Learn C in 21 Days" is sitting on my file cabinet next to me. It never really stuck with me, though, and didn't use it much.
I goofed. Meant COBOL. Have edited.
(sorry. it's been a long time)
Yeah, I figured that was what you meant. No worries!
Yes, the my first language. I was writing programs with hundreds of lines of code.
“Success Sequence” involves doing three specific things: ̶C̶o̶m̶p̶l̶e̶t̶e̶ ̶“̶a̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶h̶i̶g̶h̶ ̶s̶c̶h̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶e̶d̶u̶c̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶,̶”̶ ̶“̶o̶b̶t̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶f̶u̶l̶l̶-̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶,̶”̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶“̶m̶a̶r̶r̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶r̶e̶n̶.̶”̶ Funding early childhood education, Supporting parents and children living in poverty with food assistance and social services including family planning, teaching children critical thinking skills from grades 1-12.
FIFY, Ohio GQP cult of rape, blame and shame.
Let us also note that it has been the Republican party that has pushed the idea of vouchers and "School Choice," which has only served to weaken the public school systems that have been subjected to that idiocy, without really IMPROVING education at all.
If this passes, does that mean if my LIFE is not successful and I followed what I learned I can sue the State of Ohio???
I didn’t follow that sequence at all and had a successful career, traveled, married, divorced, one kid with a PhD and another getting their Masters. (Insert gif of thumbing my nose at the Ohio lege here).
Where is the evidence supporting this measure?
You need to ask a proctologists.
As much evidence supporting it as there is hair on Cutrona's head.