When people open their mouths and reveal who they really are believe them.
I would hope that Eric Adams has sealed his fate in the next election because I don't think New Yorkers will put up with this kind of rhetoric, rhetoric that is embellished by white supremacists.
It's not a good way for a black mayor to curry favor among probably 50% of the city's voters.
He only got my vote in the first place because the Republican running against him was more repugnant. I didn't back Adams in the primary; he's one I had to hold my nose to vote for in the first place because he has a long history of saying things that sound a lot like the Republican side of the aisle. This time around he was the lesser of two evils. But as his administration has been showing, it wasn't that much lesser of an evil.
"When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools,"
I think it was more like when we took funding out of schools, and the kids had to starve because their lunches were thrown in the trash since their parents were behind on the lunch account. Or when the parents started flashing the Nazi salute at school board meetings because they don’t want teachers to teach their children anything that didn’t come out of the Bible. Or maybe it was the NRA defending every Tom, Dïck, and Harry’s right to own huge arsenals after we’ve glorified and advertised “the deadliest shooting to date” for weeks and months, until they don’t even make the news unless there’s some sort of horrific unique feature. Or maybe it was myriad other GOP policies and philosophies that have dehumanized children and removed their agency over the past three decades forcing the children to take matters into their own hands. I don’t know, ask Kyle Rittenhouse why he thought the coolest thing around was an AR 15. You can find him getting the celebrity treatment by the Republican Party somewhere for getting away with killing liberals.
"When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools."
Really, Mayor Adams? Care to explain what happened at Oikos University, a Christian college which saw a mass shooting that left 7 dead and 3 wounded? The mass shooting whose gunman was a former student, a Christian?
Oh, and would you also give us your opinion on the uptick in church shootings?
Considering that the overwhelming majority of mass shooters turn out to have extremist right-wing views, I somehow suspect that a deficiency of prayer in their upbringing hasn't been a leading cause of these murder sprees.
"Thirty seconds later, an explosion took out the village green, scythed the valley clean of every living thing, and was seen as far away as Halifax.
There was much subsequent debate as to whether this had been sent by God or Satan, but a note later found in Agnes Nutter's cottage indicated that any divine or devilish intervention had been materially helped by the contents of Agnes Nutter's petticoats, wherein she had with some foresight concealed eighty pounds of gunpowder and forty pounds of roofing nails. "
They spend virtually all their lives whining that all the others are wrong about everything important, often in the bitterest terms imaginable. They wage legislative war on each other, trying desperately to ensure that their own cult is the one with any rights. They've even made LITERAL war on each other, cheerfully slaughtering one another in the name of the "Prince of Peace." Then they get together for an hour each year to split a few waffles, sausages and marmalade, and evidently that's enough to maintain the fiction that religion is a force for good in the world. Ain't J-boy's followers such swell folks?
Wouldn't work. You have to think to master mathematics. Besides, math has principles that really are eternal and unchanging. Your typical preacher man would know what to do with them.
It ALSO allows individual congregants to meet other congregants who can have their OWN small circle that can easily exist outside the strictures of purely church-ruled behavior. You know, having a smaller circle of families who are more involved, with some insulation from the god-speak?
He also minimized mental illness in his little sponge analogy. "Oh, you just have to wring out your despair" like millions of people suffering from clinical depression haven't tried that. I would say it was an all-around thoughtless speech, but I'm quite sure he thought all of it out and it reflects his platform. Whether he's pandering or if these are his real feelings, I can't say. But he really should face a recall election.
And the hell of it is, he's dissing mental illness at a time when it is FINALLY beginning to come out of the shadows and at least starting to be treated as the coequal priority with physical illness that it SHOULD be.
For a Democrat, Adams is sounding more and more like a Republican.
He's long felt like a Republican in Democrat's clothing. Could have something to do with Republicans having trouble getting elected to office in NYC outside of Staten Island. You know, the borough where the other 4 boroughs used to send all their garbage? Now the garbage just gets elected there.
So, he’ll run a few more times for higher and higher offices, claiming democratic, but once it’s politically expedient, he’ll switch. Maybe he’ll go libertarian, or he will skip that step and jump right on the GOP bandwagon. Depends on whether the GOP will take him or not to carry their water. Like Sinema, and other DINOs.
“It is odd that Mayor Adams would need a refresher on the First Amendment...”
Sad to say, it's not odd at all. It seems as though there are multiple city, state, and federal officials who either haven't read the Constitution or can't be bothered with it. These people wear their faith on their sleeve as though it were the only thing that mattered insofar as their qualifications for the office they hold.
And it's one more reason why I think everyone, upon taking public office, need to be reminded, either formally or informally, of the separation of Church and State, why it's important, and why it's incumbent upon them to recognize and enforce it as a part of their everyday duties.
I especially enjoyed when Hemant wrote that Adams swore to uphold the Constitution as a cop. Because we all know that cops never, ever violate anyone's rights. I didn't feel great about Adams as the option for mayor during the election; he's hasn't made me feel any better about it since his election.
They do read the constitution, but it's the same way they read the bible. They are the first to say that "separation of church and state" isn't in the constitution even though that phrase sums up the religion clauses of the first amendment, but they will say that "state's rights" is definitely in the constitution even though that phrase isn't actually there.
“We need to build a world that’s better for our children. No! We need to build children that’s better for our world.”
Well, he’s not wrong about this. We do need to build better children, but demanding religious zeal from people is the exact wrong way to go about it. It often interferes in building good children, just look at the last article from Hemant.
As for defending this speech, nobody is misrepresenting what he said. His speech was plain and clear. Imagine thinking that putting prayer into where it doesn’t belong thinking it will end gun violence when churches regularly are victims of mass shootings as well. JFC our politicians are fucking us over so goddamned badly. And the morons in the country are bending over blocking the lube.
"We need to build better children" is really just saying "it's the kids' fault they keep getting murdered like that!" Yeah... because the degenerate 𝘢𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴 keep leaving weapons and ammo lying around, keep filling their kids' heads with hate and fear instead of tolerance and understanding, keep refusing to adequately fund their kids' schools, keep pretending that mental healthcare isn't a fundamental necessity, and on and on and on ad nauseam. He's just victim-blaming. "Better" children come from better adults, full stop.
Let's not forget the minimization and even flat-out encouragement of bullying. And the "zero-tolerance" policies that punish the victim as well as the perpetrator, leading to less reporting. (Yes, they're talking about it now, but I don't particularly see them doing anything about it)
I was saying my idea of making children better is different from his idea of making better children. He wants to make more bullies, I want more kind kids.
"Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable"
Blatant lie.
"Early in the letter, the bishops insisted that the Catholic Church holds gender equality and the human rights of women as a crucial concern of the religion."
Very well, tell me the name of one woman who was papesse/cardinal/bishop/priest/deacon. And I mean one after the third century or not from a Tarot card.
PS : When I saw the first photo I wondered what Skin from Skunk Anansie had to do with a bishops' conference 😅
Religion is big in NYC politics in several major voting blocs, and an event like this is reported on and acted on by far more than the original group.
If you say it loud enough for one group, you're gonna get the other Little Fishies sniffing around the bait so's they're not the only ones without a meal coming.
“What a ridiculous question that is,” the AP reported Lee as saying in response to a question at a press conference Monday. “Conflating something like that to sexualized entertainment in front of children, which is a very serious question.”
In my boardschool when boys didn't have a disguise for the Mardi Gras ball, they borrowed girls' clothes and make up. No one gave a fuck, we just wanted to have fun.
but, but ,but, according to the religious right you should be traumatized and emotionally damaged... For real though I done it for Halloween and honestly it was a lot of fun.
"When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools,"
Do prayers for better meals or less homework count ? 🤔
You got measles?! We took our own lunch or were sold meals.
Assuming your personal bully didn't steal your lunch money.
Depending of the school you really wish that bringing your own meal was an option. Forbidden for hygiene reasons even if you had food allergies.
Dammit that should be meals – I was in a tearing hurry this morning. ☺️
It's funny since I got measles 😏
How about ƨtoats?
I don't like stou...
*Read again^
Only made in a crepe pan and with houmous.
They count as much as any other prayer. ; )
If prayer is the answer to gun violence in schools, then what is the answer to gun violence in churches?
Don't ask questions. Just give more money.
More guns, obviously. Duh. ~ Trumpublican Hoplophiliacs
When everyone's dead, there can't be any more gun violence. See? Problem solved!
Prayer. It's a sure bet it won't work.
It's a handy NOP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOP_(code)
When people open their mouths and reveal who they really are believe them.
I would hope that Eric Adams has sealed his fate in the next election because I don't think New Yorkers will put up with this kind of rhetoric, rhetoric that is embellished by white supremacists.
It's not a good way for a black mayor to curry favor among probably 50% of the city's voters.
Time will tell...
He only got my vote in the first place because the Republican running against him was more repugnant. I didn't back Adams in the primary; he's one I had to hold my nose to vote for in the first place because he has a long history of saying things that sound a lot like the Republican side of the aisle. This time around he was the lesser of two evils. But as his administration has been showing, it wasn't that much lesser of an evil.
"When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools,"
I think it was more like when we took funding out of schools, and the kids had to starve because their lunches were thrown in the trash since their parents were behind on the lunch account. Or when the parents started flashing the Nazi salute at school board meetings because they don’t want teachers to teach their children anything that didn’t come out of the Bible. Or maybe it was the NRA defending every Tom, Dïck, and Harry’s right to own huge arsenals after we’ve glorified and advertised “the deadliest shooting to date” for weeks and months, until they don’t even make the news unless there’s some sort of horrific unique feature. Or maybe it was myriad other GOP policies and philosophies that have dehumanized children and removed their agency over the past three decades forcing the children to take matters into their own hands. I don’t know, ask Kyle Rittenhouse why he thought the coolest thing around was an AR 15. You can find him getting the celebrity treatment by the Republican Party somewhere for getting away with killing liberals.
George Carlin was right: if you're pre-born you're fine, if you're preschool, you're f'ed.
"When we took prayers out of schools, guns came into schools."
Really, Mayor Adams? Care to explain what happened at Oikos University, a Christian college which saw a mass shooting that left 7 dead and 3 wounded? The mass shooting whose gunman was a former student, a Christian?
Oh, and would you also give us your opinion on the uptick in church shootings?
Considering that the overwhelming majority of mass shooters turn out to have extremist right-wing views, I somehow suspect that a deficiency of prayer in their upbringing hasn't been a leading cause of these murder sprees.
Funny, I went to public school long before school shootings were ever a thing and I assure you no one was praying. Try again.
I don't know how old you are, but if you were one of our older commenters I would say it's hard to have a mass shooting with a flintlock. : )
Was gunpowder even invented yet?
I think we found David!
Are you talking about China or Europe ?
Reference The Agnes Nutter Process:
"Thirty seconds later, an explosion took out the village green, scythed the valley clean of every living thing, and was seen as far away as Halifax.
There was much subsequent debate as to whether this had been sent by God or Satan, but a note later found in Agnes Nutter's cottage indicated that any divine or devilish intervention had been materially helped by the contents of Agnes Nutter's petticoats, wherein she had with some foresight concealed eighty pounds of gunpowder and forty pounds of roofing nails. "
School shootings are nothing new, although they happen a lot more today.
https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states
A "prayer breakfast" is an ominous sign that nothing good will follow.
Praying does nothing except waste time and ensure the status quo--that's the Republican platform.
They spend virtually all their lives whining that all the others are wrong about everything important, often in the bitterest terms imaginable. They wage legislative war on each other, trying desperately to ensure that their own cult is the one with any rights. They've even made LITERAL war on each other, cheerfully slaughtering one another in the name of the "Prince of Peace." Then they get together for an hour each year to split a few waffles, sausages and marmalade, and evidently that's enough to maintain the fiction that religion is a force for good in the world. Ain't J-boy's followers such swell folks?
Hey, I know!
If doing church stuff in schools keeps kids safe, then doing school stuff in church should keep congregations safe... right?
"Now, brothers and sisters, pick up that algebra book from the pew in front of you."
Wouldn't work. You have to think to master mathematics. Besides, math has principles that really are eternal and unchanging. Your typical preacher man would know what to do with them.
It ALSO allows individual congregants to meet other congregants who can have their OWN small circle that can easily exist outside the strictures of purely church-ruled behavior. You know, having a smaller circle of families who are more involved, with some insulation from the god-speak?
He also minimized mental illness in his little sponge analogy. "Oh, you just have to wring out your despair" like millions of people suffering from clinical depression haven't tried that. I would say it was an all-around thoughtless speech, but I'm quite sure he thought all of it out and it reflects his platform. Whether he's pandering or if these are his real feelings, I can't say. But he really should face a recall election.
And the hell of it is, he's dissing mental illness at a time when it is FINALLY beginning to come out of the shadows and at least starting to be treated as the coequal priority with physical illness that it SHOULD be.
For a Democrat, Adams is sounding more and more like a Republican.
He's long felt like a Republican in Democrat's clothing. Could have something to do with Republicans having trouble getting elected to office in NYC outside of Staten Island. You know, the borough where the other 4 boroughs used to send all their garbage? Now the garbage just gets elected there.
So, he’ll run a few more times for higher and higher offices, claiming democratic, but once it’s politically expedient, he’ll switch. Maybe he’ll go libertarian, or he will skip that step and jump right on the GOP bandwagon. Depends on whether the GOP will take him or not to carry their water. Like Sinema, and other DINOs.
I dated a Staten Island Fairy once. Oh wait...
Depression may be an invisible illness... but you can always tell who 𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘯'𝘵 had it just by listening to them run their mouths about it.
The term "delusion" expressly excludes religious belief. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse.
“It is odd that Mayor Adams would need a refresher on the First Amendment...”
Sad to say, it's not odd at all. It seems as though there are multiple city, state, and federal officials who either haven't read the Constitution or can't be bothered with it. These people wear their faith on their sleeve as though it were the only thing that mattered insofar as their qualifications for the office they hold.
And it's one more reason why I think everyone, upon taking public office, need to be reminded, either formally or informally, of the separation of Church and State, why it's important, and why it's incumbent upon them to recognize and enforce it as a part of their everyday duties.
I especially enjoyed when Hemant wrote that Adams swore to uphold the Constitution as a cop. Because we all know that cops never, ever violate anyone's rights. I didn't feel great about Adams as the option for mayor during the election; he's hasn't made me feel any better about it since his election.
They do read the constitution, but it's the same way they read the bible. They are the first to say that "separation of church and state" isn't in the constitution even though that phrase sums up the religion clauses of the first amendment, but they will say that "state's rights" is definitely in the constitution even though that phrase isn't actually there.
And there’s little to support the idea of state’s rights in the constitution.
Translation:
"I will happily throw nonbelieving schoolchildren under the bus, if that will buy me your interfaith vote in my reelection."
It's the re-election that matters.
Good acts will follow if your voting bloc turned out in meaningful numbers.
“We need to build a world that’s better for our children. No! We need to build children that’s better for our world.”
Well, he’s not wrong about this. We do need to build better children, but demanding religious zeal from people is the exact wrong way to go about it. It often interferes in building good children, just look at the last article from Hemant.
As for defending this speech, nobody is misrepresenting what he said. His speech was plain and clear. Imagine thinking that putting prayer into where it doesn’t belong thinking it will end gun violence when churches regularly are victims of mass shootings as well. JFC our politicians are fucking us over so goddamned badly. And the morons in the country are bending over blocking the lube.
"We need to build better children" is really just saying "it's the kids' fault they keep getting murdered like that!" Yeah... because the degenerate 𝘢𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴 keep leaving weapons and ammo lying around, keep filling their kids' heads with hate and fear instead of tolerance and understanding, keep refusing to adequately fund their kids' schools, keep pretending that mental healthcare isn't a fundamental necessity, and on and on and on ad nauseam. He's just victim-blaming. "Better" children come from better adults, full stop.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘦 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘩𝘦, 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘦.
Let's not forget the minimization and even flat-out encouragement of bullying. And the "zero-tolerance" policies that punish the victim as well as the perpetrator, leading to less reporting. (Yes, they're talking about it now, but I don't particularly see them doing anything about it)
I was saying my idea of making children better is different from his idea of making better children. He wants to make more bullies, I want more kind kids.
I want cyborgs.
Or Pinocchio.
Is that in public domain yet like Winnie the Pooh? I can easily imagine a dark Pinocchio/cyborg type movie.
ETS: Or a porn, although I imagine that's been done.
Have you seen del Toro's version from last year? Splendid film (just won the BAFTA for best animated film), and just about as dark as you could want.
Public domain? Yep. It's been a public domain property for 83 years in this country.
SHOWING OFF their jeezyboy's hatreds again. It sure as hell hates equality. https://www.yahoo.com/news/catholic-bishops-sound-alarm-equal-142744888.html
"The bishops’ explicit concern for just wages and the fair treatment of women goes back at least 100 years."
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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
"Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable"
Blatant lie.
"Early in the letter, the bishops insisted that the Catholic Church holds gender equality and the human rights of women as a crucial concern of the religion."
Very well, tell me the name of one woman who was papesse/cardinal/bishop/priest/deacon. And I mean one after the third century or not from a Tarot card.
PS : When I saw the first photo I wondered what Skin from Skunk Anansie had to do with a bishops' conference 😅
How about current, working politicians stay away from faith based stuff other than personal worship? Why is the mayor at this thing at all? Ugh.
1. Christianity is important in the black community.
2. Therefore if he spouts religious nonsense, he thinks it will get him votes.
3. Virtue signalling in other words.
Religion is big in NYC politics in several major voting blocs, and an event like this is reported on and acted on by far more than the original group.
If you say it loud enough for one group, you're gonna get the other Little Fishies sniffing around the bait so's they're not the only ones without a meal coming.
https://www.alternet.org/anti-drag-gop-governor-bolts/
OT but delicious.
"It's different. Because...reasons!"
Why does it not surprise me that, on top of being a hypocrite, he also has a history of Confederate cosplay?
Does the GQP just buy all their bigots at the same store, or something?
I've said it a hundred times, and I'm sure I'll be saying it a lot more: Scratch a christian, find a hypocrite.
"Scratch a christian..."
No thanks. That's how christian cooties spread.
Where's your ingenuity? Do it with a fork. Or better yet a Bowie knife.
Har-de-har-har!!! 🤣🤣🤣
it seems like almost every accusation is a confession with republicans.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2023/03/01/author-of-texas-drag-bill-says-video-of-him-wearing-dress-was-a-joke-back-in-school/
“What a ridiculous question that is,” the AP reported Lee as saying in response to a question at a press conference Monday. “Conflating something like that to sexualized entertainment in front of children, which is a very serious question.”
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*coughs* Looked in a mirror yet, Mr Drag Queen?
In my boardschool when boys didn't have a disguise for the Mardi Gras ball, they borrowed girls' clothes and make up. No one gave a fuck, we just wanted to have fun.
but, but ,but, according to the religious right you should be traumatized and emotionally damaged... For real though I done it for Halloween and honestly it was a lot of fun.
I remember one*, he was so traumatized, he was straight before and still straight the last time I saw him.
* He was very good looking in a skin tight black dress 😋