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Old Man Shadow's avatar

This is the national plan for public schools. It is a fascist Christian takeover.

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Julie Duggan's avatar

Exactly correct, we will see more of this in every Republican state....... they are already implementing project 2025.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑖𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑙, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑓𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑦 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑦!

Wow! Is he REALLY? Funny thing, because were Yahweh to weigh in on the state of public education in North Dakota, I think that SOMEONE would have noticed. Except that they haven't because he/she/it hasn't.

And once again, we have some self-important idiot-child determined to destroy the public education system of North Dakota, which is doing at least tolerably at #28 and displace Louisiana, currently rated 50th overall.

An aside: I note that Bartlett wants FOUR R's, Reading, WRiting, 'Rithmatic and 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆. And just WHOSE reality would that be, Jim?

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XJC's avatar

Reality is his kryptonite. Reality is that there is no God, there is zero evidence that such God ever existed, and that this guy has wasted his life acting on his delusion and forcing others to do the same.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, also stipulated (in re: reality = kryptonite). I still remember Adam Savage, saying tongue-in-cheek, "I deny your reality and substitute my own." In THIS case, Bartlett is saying the same damned thing ... except that he's NOT kidding.

Which is why he needs to be watched like a hawk ... and I have no doubt but that the FFRF has him on their radar.

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XJC's avatar

The sickest people are the ones who vote for this psychopath: the "meek." You know, the ones who mythical Jesus predicted would inherit the earth. The "good Christians" (and Good Catholics). Jesus understood how small, stupid ideas can scale to become unshakable myths and eventually laws when you get the masses to be convinced they need them. He's cashed in ever since. Jesus, Inc. (NYSE: JEEZ)

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

May I impose my reality ? In it Rowan Atkinson refused to play Mr Bean and Kaamrlott didn't go on a several years hiatus because Alexandre Astier was conned out of his rights.

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Bagen Onuts's avatar

He did make a living pushing fantasy.

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cdbunch's avatar

His, of course. The 'reality' he's created in his own head.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, stipulated. The question was semi-rhetorical. 😝

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I want him to quote me every single verse wbout public education.

*Memorize the the date, year included.*

Now excuse me, I have to play Tetris with my cupboards and I am undecided if after I will try to take a nap or watch a fauxcumentary and do some cross stitch.

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Tinker's avatar

People like Jim Bartlett who clearly hate everything the United States stands for needs to take a little vacation to another North. It needs to be drilled into their thick skulls that their worship of a false, fat, lying, scamming, golden idol is absolutely no different than where North Korea has ended up.

And another note; I took that ethics class too but I read past the first 3 chapters. The idea behind the study of ethical history is not to prove Christianity is the be all and end all of ethical thought; it was to take ALL of those ideas and find a way to our own ethical truths. But if your ethical truth begins and ends with "I'm afraid of Hell" then you are a psychopath on a leash. If you can feel a little empathy for people different than you, understand what is right and what is wrong by weighing the different sides and come to conclusions based on logic (instead of a collection of 2000 year old plus stories), then maybe you can live in polite society with the rest of us.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

That comparison to Kim Jong Un gave me nightmare like visions of Trump spending billions on putting up statues of him around the country.

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Tinker's avatar

You know that is exactly what will happen. We'll be spending millions employing people to polish the golden statues of an ugly man but he'll be able to say he created jobs.

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Julie Duggan's avatar

We won't have to spend too much time on his private part, according to Stormy there isn't much there....

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EllenThatEllen's avatar

Mr.Bartlett hasn't ever heard of the separation of church and state. He sounds very odd to me. Well there goes his staff, his government funding and teachers will leave if he is voted in. Good luck North Dakota! You will need it. Mr. Bartlett don't push your agenda onto the children. They are just there to learn!

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I suspect he's heard of it. Problem is, it's anathema to his faith and his desire to decimate public education, at least in the Peace Garden State. The worst part of all of this is that, in a state as red as ND is, there is a better than average chance that he'll get his way.

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ericc's avatar

It sounds like he's one of these types: "the founder's religious freedom is meant only to protect Christian sects from other Christian sects, and only means government can't impose on religion, not that religion can't impose on government."

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Fargo schools are an example of a modern Sodom and Gomorra..."

*sigh* This again? Another xtian who doesn't know what the "sin of Sodom" was.

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. "

-- Ezekiel 16:49-50

Arrogant/overfed/unconcerned? Didn't help the poor and needy? Haughty and did detestable things? Sounds like standard practice for conservative Christians.

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cdbunch's avatar

They're certain the "detestable things" were gay sex, not attempted rape.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Cross-swinging knuckle draggers don't know that "Gay" wasn't even a thing back then. Sexual orientation was not understood in biblical times. The term "homosexual" wasn't coined until 1868, when it was used in a letter sent by Karl-Maria Kertbeny to Karl Heinrich Ulrichs. "Homosexual" didn't appear in teh bibelz until the RSV in 1946.

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cdbunch's avatar

But the hatred did. They called it other things, but they still hated us. Because we were different. It wasn't really about reproduction, plenty of gay men have reproduced, it was about not fitting the 'norm'.

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Bagen Onuts's avatar

Their "norm."

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ask them what Onan' sin was and don't wait for the right answer.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

That's another one they fail at. It's like they're incapable of reading comprehension.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

You could have stopped at reading.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"The Bible and the Ten Commandments were taught to school children for more than 100 years in Public Schools."

Too bad for you that SCOTUS ruled against the practice in Abington v Schempp (1963), Bartlett.

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Len's avatar

I always ask “which 10 commandments?”

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Holytape's avatar

That is simple.

1. Guns are good.

2. Jesus is white.

3. uh, see 1.

4. You're a communist/woke.

5. REAL AMERICANS.

6. Something about not killing, unless they deserve it.

7. Global warming is plot by Soros to make sure that Bill Gates can put an microchip in your brain.

8. Men are men.

9. I ain't gay

10. Guns are good.

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Len's avatar

I like this set too 👍

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

6) something about standing on your guns.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Ah yes, I call them ammosexuals.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I like to tell Christians that the only list of the Ten Commandments that are actually CALLED that are found in Exodus 34. And THEY bear scant resemblance to the Aramaic set hoisted by Charlton Heston (props of which were seen around the country to advertise DeMille's movie).

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

From 1882 to 1968 nearly 5,000 lynchings occurred in the U.S., according to records maintained by the NAACP. The highest number during this period occurred in Mississippi.

What exactly did these Biblical and Ten Commandment teachings involve, especially in the Bible Belt?

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Matri's avatar

Nothing. They weren't for teaching, they were for beating non-Christians with.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Curse of Ham meant they justified slavery because of some fucked up rationale.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

With a little help from the OT and NT.

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Patricia Kayden's avatar

How do you think the current SCOTUS will rule?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Hard to say. Is there a precedent dating from the 17th or early 18th century ?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

With the current makeup, who can tell? They have their 'stopped clock' moments.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

The Ten Commandments are a list, not a curriculum. They’re not even a very good list to live by and are predicated on a society that holds slaves and devalues women. But it cannot be the entire basis of an education that leads to functional adults capable of operating in any modern workplace. Even if his myopic vision expands to the entire Bible, it still wouldn’t be sufficient to educate a population. Churches can barely get enough material to engage kids only one day a week (52 lessons), what are they gonna do with 9 months of 5 days a week?

Having been educated in education and learning about special needs students did not give me the necessary skills, knowledge, or expertise required to educate my own special needs child, what would an uneducated parent do with their own? Giving the students with the most need for an expert team to the parents to handle alone will end in disaster and most likely early deaths. Private tutors are only available to the wealthy and the suggestion is ridiculous on its face.

These christo fascists are trying to destroy the education system because they think that it will create a class of workers that have no options and cannot fight back against the wage slavery of the past before unions. What they don’t realize is that our economy doesn’t work the way it did before and the abject poor and illiterate won’t bring profits because they cannot do the work required by our society. If we allow this to happen to our children, this plan will blow up in their faces. Unfortunately, it will harm our children most, so we cannot let it happen.

This is the last ditch effort of a dying culture warrior though. They know they’re being left behind, that’s why they are focusing on pushing their religion, fighting CRT and LGBTQ and social/emotional learning. These are things they are incapable of learning or experiencing, or just moving past, so they want people to stop learning about it.

The idea that schools teach things they can pay for, , like his idea of a balance sheet with a profit loss system is ridiculous. Schools are not corporations needing a growing profit to function. There’s no profit involved in education, no way to measure productivity or whatever else companies measure. Not across the board, every individual student has their own journey and abilities, you can’t compare them effectively. And you don’t want the schools to run that way. Sure, they need to work with a budget, but there’s no profits involved with the work done inside the schools. That’s why charter schools keep closing and why they’re so vulnerable to corruption. Even private schools face budgetary issues, as for profit schools. Schools just don’t work that way.

This guy is beyond unqualified. Nothing he’s suggesting is remotely plausible.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

" a class of workers that have no options and cannot fight back against the wage slavery of the past before unions."

Those who want to go back to this past, conveniently or willfully, forget that this illiterate mass was the one who fought to create unions, too bad most workers forgot it too.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑔𝑢𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑢𝑛𝑞𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑑. 𝑁𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑠𝑢𝑔𝑔𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒.

Sadly, guys like him don't care about "plausible." All they care about is what they can get away with ... and they just might.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And stick their nose in the trough and inhale as much grifty money as you can.

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Kay-El's avatar

100% and I’ll add that special needs children need the socialization that they’ll find in public or special needs schools. Hiding them away at home with a tutor or ill -equipped parent does a grave disservice.

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cdbunch's avatar

They can't work*, so educating them is a waste of time and money. /s

*I know most of them can with reasonable accommodation, but they don't want to pay for that, they'd rather just throw those "defective" humans away.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

How nazi of them.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

What part of "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." does North Dakota not understand?

That's the US Constitution, you say. Article XI, Section 4 of the North Dakota Constitution states that all members of its 3 branches of government swear an oath to support the US Constitution.

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Bill Wilson's avatar

“His campaign website is downright frightening both for its decades-old graphic design as well as it…” - There are unemployed ISIS web developers who are available to help update Bartlett’s web page via the theocrats jobs listings website.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Even fansites on GeoCities thrown together by tweens in the 90s had cleaner page layouts than that. His web designer should be drawn and quartered, their remains fed to Piranhas, and every piece of technology they ever owned should be thrown in a woodchipper then shot into the Sun, for the safety of the internet.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Joan, you should know better !

Piranhas are part of a fragile ecosystem and poisoning them could have disastrous consequences. Send him into the Sun with the rest of his creation instead.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

You're right, what was I thinking? Piranhas are far too good for them. They should be devoured by a seething mass of maggots.

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Bill Wilson's avatar

Arby's would be interested in the designers remains.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

They have the meats, after all.

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ericc's avatar

Prior to 9/11 (and still now, but less so), Lafayette Park outside the White House used to be a place where cranks would come and put up large posterboards of their crankiness, I guess for the administration to see. This guy's website would fit right in with many of them.

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cdbunch's avatar

I suspect these 'costs' he's talking about are losses in state funding.

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Patricia Kayden's avatar

I don’t believe that even Christians who vote Republican understand what will happen when the Republican Party (with help from SCOTUS) gets to impose a theocracy on the United States of America. All I’ll say is that you better be THE RIGHT KIND OF CHRISTIAN.

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ericc's avatar

It still baffles me that the right-wing Catholics on SCOTUS don't see exactly what you're pointing out. In many states and districts, anti-papacy and anti-idolatry laws would be implemented right along with anti-atheist and anti-muslim laws.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

2017, a trumpista was very baffled when she discovered drumpster's anti immigration laws applied to her Mexican husband.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That was a real head-slapper.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

At least a few of them have this rather vague idea of how, with all the wonderful Christian virtues, the US would be turned into some kind of paradise. Problem is that they fail to see the Christian vices and aberrations which would very likely dominate and cause the very opposite of what they imagine.

Then too, these are people who deal in FAITH and not in actual facts or reality. Yet one more thing that makes them exceptionally dangerous.

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Matri's avatar

And also exceptionally stupid.

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Matri's avatar

The Face-Eating Leopards have been eagerly waiting for years now.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

OT: Jury selection for Baby Donny's First Criminal Trial is, as predicted, a shitshow, because the defendant has spent his entire life making dead certain that there isn't a single person over the age of majority who doesn't either worship him or hate his putrid guts: https://apnews.com/live/trump-trial-hush-money-updates-april-16

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I did see in the comments of one of these articles a great nickname for him: Don Snorleone.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Acoording to the Wonkette article ( https://www.wonkette.com/p/new-york-criminal-defendant-already ), it's trending on Xitter; I'll just take their word for it because I don't want to give Muskrat the clicks.

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Matri's avatar

Muskrat will be charging to post on Xhit soon.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

3 have been selected so far. Wanna bet the three are MAGAts lying about being impartial?

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Joan the Dork's avatar

I wouldn't lay my pocket lint against that wager; right-wing pundits have literally been telling MAGAts to do 𝘦𝘹𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 that.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Watch Trump's reaction every time a juror is selected. If he smiles, then we know what's happening.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I have to wonder just how aware of the proceedings he is, considering yesterday's performance.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Perhaps he's going for "diminished responsibility"? Although it's going to be difficult to reconcile with his presidential campaign isn't it? Mind you – contradiction is his forte right? :)

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Newborns do that, not chief tantrums.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

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Bagen Onuts's avatar

So let me get this straight! A serial adulterer is selling a book that says adultery is a sin! All for the low price of $60!😂

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NOGODZ20's avatar

A book with a copy of the Constitution. Which stands in opposition to the Ten Commandments.

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Matri's avatar

EVERYthing he does is in opposition to the Ten Commandments.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

He secretly used the text from the 1631 Wicked Bible which states "Thou Shalt Commit Adultery."

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Richard Wade's avatar

The more that American Christians realize they're surrounded by fewer and fewer Christians, the more they think and talk about FORCING Christianity onto society.

It looks like it will continue to approach a critical level when almost all that is left of the flocks are the fanatics, and increasingly we'll have to fight them politically, legally, and according to some of their own rhetoric, physically. Discussions on the news about the dangers of Christian nationalism are beginning to supplant discussions about the dangers of Donald Trump.

If this country suffers violent conflicts, whether small or large, they'll be a little about left vs. right, but much more about secularism vs. sectarianism.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Yep – the smaller the numbers the more it's fine down to the nutty fanatics. Nutty dangerous fanatics.

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oraxx's avatar

It is absolutely NEVER the duty of the public schools to backstop anyone's religion. Further more, under our secular Constitution government at any level cannot choose one religion over another. Attempting to brainwash children in the information age is never going to work for long, and this fool is sowing the seeds of his own destruction. That said, he can do an awful lot of damage along the way.

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cdbunch's avatar

Great Firewall of China.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

We need another Madelyn Murray O'Hare. I never realized how much we owe her activism.

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Bagen Onuts's avatar

GQP plan is "Run it into the ground, then claim government is the problem and religion will do better."

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NOGODZ20's avatar

And we've seen what happens when religion calls the shots. *coughcough* DARKAGES!

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Hey ! We just tried to bring back the holy tradition of arenas' fights from the glorious days of the Roman Empire, just on a bigger scale.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ave NOGODZ, my avocado/hummus/kimchi toast te salutant.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Black Plague and ignorance, and poor hygeine.

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