So SCOTUS strikes down Biden's plan to forgive student debt and wiped out affirmative action in the same week AND removed LGBTQ+ rights allowing people to be bigots in public serving places of business. . Canada is looking more promising by the minute.
I can used to rain, I think. Vancouver isn't that different from Seattle. I could probably even get used to the snow in Toronto. I'm not sure I could get used to the French in Montreal. (I'm awfully old to learn a new language)
Albi, my favorite biology teacher was around there. She has a musical accent but often has to slow her speech, usually when she looked at us and noticed our blank gazes 😁
I've spent time in Winnipeg in winter. Easy-peasy. I like Saskatoonberries, as well as the city. I like Regina, and know how to pronounce it (giggity).
But I'm not ready to bug out just yet...this is still worth fighting for.
If my husband's health could tolerate the cold, I'd be out in a heartbeat. We're already stuck in Utah, but dying to get back to Los Angeles. Being disabled means we don't have the money though.
If I lived in Malibu, town would be Santa Monica, and you would have to force me to travel west of Centinella Ave. In the 70's I lived at Third and Pacific in S.M.
I would be there yesterday if I could afford it, and my babies didn't live in the great flyover country.
Is it pretty liberal? I thought it was a red state. It is beautiful though. My husband and I worked on a film in Santa Fe years ago and loved it there.
Yes, the northern 2/3 of the state is liberal. The southern part moves back and forth. Santa Fe is beautiful but obscenely expensive. The Albuquerque area is very affordable.
Scot Petersen, the supposed "good guy with a gun" deputy who completely failed to confront the Parkland shooter. was just acquitted of any wrongdoing. Acquitted in the very same courtroom that the shooter (Nikolas Cruz) was sentenced to life in prison was.
Petersen sobbed heavily as the verdict was read and then pumped his fist. "We got our life back after 4 1/2 years" said Petersen. Oh, you fucking cowardly shit. YOUR life was never in danger. Why? Because instead of doing your job, you backed away and left 17 people to be killed along with 17 wounded.
Being a deputy means the possibility of having to give your life to save others, DICKsen, You knew that going in. If you knew that possibility was there, why did you ever take the job? "The Coward from Broward," is right.
Seems I am living in a alternate reality where cowardice, narcissim and bigotry thrives and is rewarded. While people with integrity are taunted, lose their jobs and get their lives threatened and no one has the guts to do anything about it except to reward the sociopaths.
I was just remarking to someone today that we are living in an age where no one wants to get involved in anything for fear of being sued or getting shot or anything. So if someone is drowning or being mugged by some kids, most people now just turn the cheek and say "It's none of my business". It's like the world has turned to prison rules.
Nope. Allowing a teenager brief periods without direct supervision doesn't breach any duty of care, and the only emotional distress caused to the kid is the religious trauma inflicted by the family.
I read – or rather started to read the 2nd series, but which time one of the characters said something like "This adventure is very much like our last adventure." Whereupon I thought yes it bloody well is and gave up.
I honestly wonder what the heck this sort of parent expects to happen when they tell their teenager to wait for marriage. I also wonder if these parents waited for marriage.
Teenagers have been having premarital sex for thousands of years. It's not going to change. The school is hardly responsible for human nature, and while it might could have managed this a bit better, a graduating senior is old enough to make this decision under most state laws anyway. At some point, parents just have to deal with the fact that they won't be able to run their child's life forever, and high school is usually where that happens.
Honestly, I just hope they used an appropriate prophylactic measure. From the story, that seems unlikely, and it's likely the girl will have more consequences from that than the young man under discussion here.
Yeah, a boy with that kind of oversight is one) likely too afraid to be seen buying codoms (one advantage of self-checkout) and two) likely has nowhere to keep them without his overbearing mother finding out (doesn't she know what that leads to? She should be happy it was a *girl*friend)
"it's likely the girl will have more consequences from that than the young man under discussion here."
Yes, very much so. If he is the product of an environment that roundly condemns sex except in very narrow circumstances, and probably NEVER engaged in any meaningful conversation on the matter, then it's a sure bet that birth control and safe sex were not on the discussion table either.
I hope the young girl is more knowledgeable than he probably is. In this post-Roe environment, if she ends up pregnant, she is screwed.
Never fear, Mr. and Mrs. Doe. When this case gets the the supreme court you'll get a slam-dunk win. Religious liberty, aka the right to force others to behave the way you want them to, is the most important thing in the whole goddamn universe, dontcha know.
It eminds me of Salt Lake City Olympics games, ice skater dancers were "asked" to avoid any suggesting position*. If it was today would the discipline scraped from the games to protect innocent children ? 🙄
* Good luck with that, some of them are among the most difficult and bring more points.
What I don’t understand is folks who heard Joseph Smith talk about an angel named Moron and not get that he’s fucking with them. To this day, everything about the birth of this religion screams scam, and yet people are lapping it up as though it’s milk and they’re kittens. I guess it’s true there’s a sucker born every minute.
Kinda like Scientology selling people a bridge... they call it the Bridge to Total Freedom, but at the end of the day, they're selling you a bridge. L. Ron Hubbard had a crappy sense of humor.
And the Christians on SCOTUS just opened the door to kill off non-discrimination laws at the behest of Christians bringing the lawsuit on a fictional claim of harm with the intent of legalizing discrimination.
Laughable. However, I would be interested to know if the girl was Mormon. I am thinking she probably was not so son thought it didn't count. And, if she is Mormon there are probably wedding bells in both their near future. The only "emotional distress, this boy had comes from his parents, his religion and the stupidity of the parents making all this public. In a religions, like the Mormon religion where the male is dominate over women, I am sure those good Mormon boys feel taking a young girl sexually and otherwise is their right.
Many thanks to the christians who still gleefully belong to the cult that pitched a fake case to a corrupt court. Guessing Windsor and Obergefell will be next on the chopping block but our christian cheerleaders who post here tell us that conservative christains are wonderful people.
Stopped responding directly to this intellectually dishonest Christian long ago. Now I sit back and watch as others bat him around like a cat toy (not that he ever changes his stance. He just goes right on posting the same garbage, no matter how many times he's been corrected. He ain't listenin').
DG is a big fan of Alliance Defending Fascism because they helped a prisoner get the right to grow a beard, never mind that his fellow non incarcerated citizens are losing their rights because of the xtian cult.
I have never been asked to state my belief system/unbelief system on this forum. I live in an SBC dominated region. My daughter grew up having to defend her salvation because she was Methodist! I actually get along better with Pentecostals.
I grew up Lutheran (not Missouri Synod). No one ever asked anyone if they were saved. Requiring being born again takes the effort of God's grace, and shifts it to human decision.This is considered works theology.
I was shocked to be asked if I were still a believer, but he thanked me for being honest.
I just don't get his motivation, but I sort of appreciate his presence. I believe he is intelligent and sincere. Not like Mr. Guthrum.
I can never understand how people who continue to cling to faerie tales well into adulthood can be considered intelligent. It is a willing abandonment of reason. If an adult continued believing in Santa Claus, we'd be looking at their mental state. But belief in God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit gets a pass? *smh*
Oh, he's sincere in his beliefs, right enough. But sincerely believing in supernatural beings and realms doesn't make those beliefs any more an actual fact. He's also wrong in a great number of his non-religious beliefs. Even after he's been shown the errors he makes, he still stubbornly clings to them.
On another thread he said he didn't say what was attributed to him. Then one of the community quoted him verbatim. His response? "I don't remember saying that.." This is akin to Billy Graham denying he'd made anti-Semitic statements to Richard Nixon in the White House. When the tape of him saying those things was played back, he weaseled and claimed he didn't remember saying what he'd said.
That's what I normally do. I usually skim or skip his comments. I can not understand why he comes here. It has already been stated that Hemant is the Friendly Atheist, not us. I just have a feeling if he comes back often enough he might be eased off the brain washing the way I was , by members of this forum. But I lurked for a long time before ever posting.
I think he’s trying to convince himself more than anything, by preaching to us. Yes, he’s really preachy. And when we put him in his place he confirms to himself that he must be on the right side of things because his progressive church doesn’t treat him like that. But I’m not going to stop calling him out for his nastiness, no matter how pretty it is presented, or how it bolsters his persecution complex. What he promotes is almost always the cruelest choice.
It might have been me. Odin knows I posted enough responses to him that day and for several days afterward as he implied (later denied) that he was responsible for placing foster kids. But so did several others.
He once claimed on the old site, that when I said I was glad that the scientific quest for truth was eroding the myths made by religious claims, that non believers were using science as a weapon against religion
Did the school consider adding certain monitoring duties during this time where students weren’t expected to be in class?
Can the school legally inspect student vehicles or are they subject to the same inspection restrictions as lockers?
These parents are lashing out because they feel like they’re failing at parenting their child. They are, but not in the way they think. So they’re blaming anyone they can for their own failures . Take responsibility for your own children and your mistakes.
How old are the teens? My guess is at least 16, given ready access to a vehicle. That means the parents are expecting their son to be treated like he is 5 for a few more years and then be treated like he is 30, expecting him to get a job, go to college, get married and pump out some babies. Mor(m)onism is seriously fucked up
Because of the puritanical beliefs of no sex before marriage, many Mormon families expect their children to get married at 18. It is a very common practice. And it is between these type of high school sweetheart relationships.
If they were only 16, I can see the parent complaining to the school for dereliction of duty regarding monitoring the student actions on school grounds. Which is not what they sued for, so this ruling is right. But I don’t expect her to win on that either. Kids will find ways to not get caught.
If they were 18, mom needs to start backing off.
The failure in parenting is that the child is not connected to the parent enough to trust them and confide their desires. Making things like sex taboo only adds to rebellion and probably more risky behaviors. From what is presented here, I get the feeling he wasn’t forthcoming very much and that made mom have to check in on him constantly.
The family said the district “breached their duty of care” and caused their son “emotional distress.”
No, 𝙩𝒉𝙚𝒚 caused, and continue to cause their son "emotional distress.'
It is never the job of the public schools to backstop anybody's religion.
Yet. The supreme courts not done yet.
Mormons are deeply opposed to pre-marital sex because of the deep-seated fear it is something that could lead to dancing.
Now you be fair. Don't slander mormons!
Those are baptists!
Those are Mormons too.
Nope, sorry, Mormons actually have monthly dances for the youth in a lot of areas 🙂
I thought the no dancing comment was a reference to Footloose, which was filmed in Lehi, where this happened.
So SCOTUS strikes down Biden's plan to forgive student debt and wiped out affirmative action in the same week AND removed LGBTQ+ rights allowing people to be bigots in public serving places of business. . Canada is looking more promising by the minute.
Too goddamned cold. But then it is warmer than a fucking xtian heart.
I can used to rain, I think. Vancouver isn't that different from Seattle. I could probably even get used to the snow in Toronto. I'm not sure I could get used to the French in Montreal. (I'm awfully old to learn a new language)
Even Edmonton would be an improvement over Texas.
You can try France French.
Black hole mourner will be renting rooms to members of friendly atheists for a fair rate.
Rooms ? The only two places available are for the main room, unless you want to sleep in the bathroom (6 feet/2 mètres square).
Will you be preparing the meals too?
Well I'll sleep with you.. you'll have to forgive the fact I'm 5'9
Urban or rural?
Albi, my favorite biology teacher was around there. She has a musical accent but often has to slow her speech, usually when she looked at us and noticed our blank gazes 😁
I've spent time in Winnipeg in winter. Easy-peasy. I like Saskatoonberries, as well as the city. I like Regina, and know how to pronounce it (giggity).
But I'm not ready to bug out just yet...this is still worth fighting for.
I'm at my wits end to be honest.. but populism is on the rise not just here but many other places .
If my husband's health could tolerate the cold, I'd be out in a heartbeat. We're already stuck in Utah, but dying to get back to Los Angeles. Being disabled means we don't have the money though.
Sorry to hear that. I'm in So Cal so I know why you'd want to come back..
If I lived in Malibu, town would be Santa Monica, and you would have to force me to travel west of Centinella Ave. In the 70's I lived at Third and Pacific in S.M.
I would be there yesterday if I could afford it, and my babies didn't live in the great flyover country.
Malibu is awesome I cannot deny it
Yep, it's our happy place.
Think about New Mexico.
Is it pretty liberal? I thought it was a red state. It is beautiful though. My husband and I worked on a film in Santa Fe years ago and loved it there.
Yes, the northern 2/3 of the state is liberal. The southern part moves back and forth. Santa Fe is beautiful but obscenely expensive. The Albuquerque area is very affordable.
Good to know, thanks!
For a religion founded by two guys who fucked every woman they could, Mormonism is pretty uptight about sex.
I know it's way early for an OT, but god damn...
Scot Petersen, the supposed "good guy with a gun" deputy who completely failed to confront the Parkland shooter. was just acquitted of any wrongdoing. Acquitted in the very same courtroom that the shooter (Nikolas Cruz) was sentenced to life in prison was.
Petersen sobbed heavily as the verdict was read and then pumped his fist. "We got our life back after 4 1/2 years" said Petersen. Oh, you fucking cowardly shit. YOUR life was never in danger. Why? Because instead of doing your job, you backed away and left 17 people to be killed along with 17 wounded.
Being a deputy means the possibility of having to give your life to save others, DICKsen, You knew that going in. If you knew that possibility was there, why did you ever take the job? "The Coward from Broward," is right.
Seems I am living in a alternate reality where cowardice, narcissim and bigotry thrives and is rewarded. While people with integrity are taunted, lose their jobs and get their lives threatened and no one has the guts to do anything about it except to reward the sociopaths.
His words later were "This was a massacre. The only person to blame was that monster."
Shut up, Petersen. Just shut the fuck up.
I was just remarking to someone today that we are living in an age where no one wants to get involved in anything for fear of being sued or getting shot or anything. So if someone is drowning or being mugged by some kids, most people now just turn the cheek and say "It's none of my business". It's like the world has turned to prison rules.
So much for that “good guy with a gun” argument
It was always a bullshit argument. And now it's been exposed for the naked lie that it is.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑡 “𝑏𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑑𝑢𝑡𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒” 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑛 “𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠.”
Nope. Allowing a teenager brief periods without direct supervision doesn't breach any duty of care, and the only emotional distress caused to the kid is the religious trauma inflicted by the family.
Beat me to it. They’re claiming the school is responsible for the harm they caused. Wonder who they’re voting for next year…
Ha. Trying to stop teenagers from teenageing is like trying turn off gravity.
Gravity is just a theory.
Has anyone ever actually seen a gravity? QED.
It made $723.2 million at the box office.
I saw that movie. Hard to beat both Sandra Bullock AND George Clooney.
Great casting, but the premise didn't interest me. Kind of like the blindfold movie she did.
"Life finds a way."
-- Ian Malcolm, "Jurassic Park" (1993)
I always quote Hammond when he opened the champagne from Dr. Grants and Ellie's refrigerator and Dr Grant shouts to him "Hey we were saving that!"
Hammond says:
"For today.....I guarantee it."
Today is no day to open champagne. Everclear maybe.
Hemlock maybe
Did you read the Belgariad's prequels ? Belgarath and Polgara spent millennia trying to prevent their descendants to have premarital sex.
I read two series and Belgarath. I bought Polgara, but never read it and sold it at a garage sale last year.
I have not if you were asking me.
I asked NOGODZ and anyone who could have read them. Some weddings had to be celebrated earlier than scheduled.
Never read a single book in the series.
I know I read a couple and liked them. I think I remember them all being very similar to each other though.
I read – or rather started to read the 2nd series, but which time one of the characters said something like "This adventure is very much like our last adventure." Whereupon I thought yes it bloody well is and gave up.
Not bad but very clichéd, I preferred their non fantasy books.
You speak in riddles.
It's to better ruin your brain 😝
Trust me, you didn't get here in time.
My reference for ruined brains is drumpster. Do you maintain your statement ?
I translate...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belgariad
Ah. Thx.
I honestly wonder what the heck this sort of parent expects to happen when they tell their teenager to wait for marriage. I also wonder if these parents waited for marriage.
Teenagers have been having premarital sex for thousands of years. It's not going to change. The school is hardly responsible for human nature, and while it might could have managed this a bit better, a graduating senior is old enough to make this decision under most state laws anyway. At some point, parents just have to deal with the fact that they won't be able to run their child's life forever, and high school is usually where that happens.
Honestly, I just hope they used an appropriate prophylactic measure. From the story, that seems unlikely, and it's likely the girl will have more consequences from that than the young man under discussion here.
Yeah, a boy with that kind of oversight is one) likely too afraid to be seen buying codoms (one advantage of self-checkout) and two) likely has nowhere to keep them without his overbearing mother finding out (doesn't she know what that leads to? She should be happy it was a *girl*friend)
"it's likely the girl will have more consequences from that than the young man under discussion here."
Yes, very much so. If he is the product of an environment that roundly condemns sex except in very narrow circumstances, and probably NEVER engaged in any meaningful conversation on the matter, then it's a sure bet that birth control and safe sex were not on the discussion table either.
I hope the young girl is more knowledgeable than he probably is. In this post-Roe environment, if she ends up pregnant, she is screwed.
Never fear, Mr. and Mrs. Doe. When this case gets the the supreme court you'll get a slam-dunk win. Religious liberty, aka the right to force others to behave the way you want them to, is the most important thing in the whole goddamn universe, dontcha know.
It eminds me of Salt Lake City Olympics games, ice skater dancers were "asked" to avoid any suggesting position*. If it was today would the discipline scraped from the games to protect innocent children ? 🙄
* Good luck with that, some of them are among the most difficult and bring more points.
And I'll never forget John Ashcroft ordering nude statues at the Dept. of Justice covered up with sheaths of cloth.
Maybe he was into agalmatophilia and didn't want to be tempted into rutting with those statues in front of others.
Le curé de Camaret/Camaret's priest
Sur la place du village y'a la statue d'Hercule (bis)
Et tous les 14 juillet
Le maire et ses conseillers
L'enculent (ter)
On the village square
There is a Hercule Statue
And every 14th July (National day)
The mayor and his council
Bug it
Je ne comprends pas.
French lewd song.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrTSQj3HrI
They plant listening devices on it? 🤔
Is there fluidproof ones ?
"But Your Honor, it's not my fault I buggered that statue. It tempted me!"
Don't let him near "The Kiss" by Rodin. He'd try to make it a threesome.
Should we get him some God Min and Apsaras statues as a late birthday gift ?
I remember that. That level of prude strikes me as bordering on psychotic.
Nobody has ever successfully explained to me the existence of that superfluous "m" in "Mormon".
They get it right with their cake topper angel, Moroni...
What I don’t understand is folks who heard Joseph Smith talk about an angel named Moron and not get that he’s fucking with them. To this day, everything about the birth of this religion screams scam, and yet people are lapping it up as though it’s milk and they’re kittens. I guess it’s true there’s a sucker born every minute.
Edit to get his name right.
Kinda like Scientology selling people a bridge... they call it the Bridge to Total Freedom, but at the end of the day, they're selling you a bridge. L. Ron Hubbard had a crappy sense of humor.
More like a "Bridge to Nowhere."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Bridged_the_Mist
https://i.imgur.com/wC9O8Lm.jpeg
Nobody has ever pointed that one out for me. Thank you.
Better sue god for making horny teenagers.
Ah, but we'd have to determine if he made horny teenagers or made teenagers horny.
For, you know, legal reasons.
I’m not researching that. I hate being around teenagers. Shakes came, lawns, etc
And the Christians on SCOTUS just opened the door to kill off non-discrimination laws at the behest of Christians bringing the lawsuit on a fictional claim of harm with the intent of legalizing discrimination.
So much Christian love, right?
Laughable. However, I would be interested to know if the girl was Mormon. I am thinking she probably was not so son thought it didn't count. And, if she is Mormon there are probably wedding bells in both their near future. The only "emotional distress, this boy had comes from his parents, his religion and the stupidity of the parents making all this public. In a religions, like the Mormon religion where the male is dominate over women, I am sure those good Mormon boys feel taking a young girl sexually and otherwise is their right.
Many thanks to the christians who still gleefully belong to the cult that pitched a fake case to a corrupt court. Guessing Windsor and Obergefell will be next on the chopping block but our christian cheerleaders who post here tell us that conservative christains are wonderful people.
Don't tell me, let me guess. Said apologist's initials are DG?
Correct. Milquetoast bullshitter and enabler.
Stopped responding directly to this intellectually dishonest Christian long ago. Now I sit back and watch as others bat him around like a cat toy (not that he ever changes his stance. He just goes right on posting the same garbage, no matter how many times he's been corrected. He ain't listenin').
If he could understand reason, he wouldn't be a christstain
Reason and Christianity are oil and water
Not worth it.
That's my take. It simply isn't worth personally this cross-swinging last-worder.
"Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it."
-- George Bernard Shaw
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
--Thomas Paine (I think)
DG is a big fan of Alliance Defending Fascism because they helped a prisoner get the right to grow a beard, never mind that his fellow non incarcerated citizens are losing their rights because of the xtian cult.
I have never been asked to state my belief system/unbelief system on this forum. I live in an SBC dominated region. My daughter grew up having to defend her salvation because she was Methodist! I actually get along better with Pentecostals.
I grew up Lutheran (not Missouri Synod). No one ever asked anyone if they were saved. Requiring being born again takes the effort of God's grace, and shifts it to human decision.This is considered works theology.
I was shocked to be asked if I were still a believer, but he thanked me for being honest.
I just don't get his motivation, but I sort of appreciate his presence. I believe he is intelligent and sincere. Not like Mr. Guthrum.
I can never understand how people who continue to cling to faerie tales well into adulthood can be considered intelligent. It is a willing abandonment of reason. If an adult continued believing in Santa Claus, we'd be looking at their mental state. But belief in God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit gets a pass? *smh*
Oh, he's sincere in his beliefs, right enough. But sincerely believing in supernatural beings and realms doesn't make those beliefs any more an actual fact. He's also wrong in a great number of his non-religious beliefs. Even after he's been shown the errors he makes, he still stubbornly clings to them.
On another thread he said he didn't say what was attributed to him. Then one of the community quoted him verbatim. His response? "I don't remember saying that.." This is akin to Billy Graham denying he'd made anti-Semitic statements to Richard Nixon in the White House. When the tape of him saying those things was played back, he weaseled and claimed he didn't remember saying what he'd said.
"I don't remember" doesn't strike one as sincere.
Remember the time he said LGBTQI+ children fostered/adopted by religious conservatives families wasn't a big deal 🙄
I don't usually read his comments, I read the answer someone (cdbunch?) wrote and went to read what dg said.
That's what I normally do. I usually skim or skip his comments. I can not understand why he comes here. It has already been stated that Hemant is the Friendly Atheist, not us. I just have a feeling if he comes back often enough he might be eased off the brain washing the way I was , by members of this forum. But I lurked for a long time before ever posting.
I think he’s trying to convince himself more than anything, by preaching to us. Yes, he’s really preachy. And when we put him in his place he confirms to himself that he must be on the right side of things because his progressive church doesn’t treat him like that. But I’m not going to stop calling him out for his nastiness, no matter how pretty it is presented, or how it bolsters his persecution complex. What he promotes is almost always the cruelest choice.
It might have been me. Odin knows I posted enough responses to him that day and for several days afterward as he implied (later denied) that he was responsible for placing foster kids. But so did several others.
He is unable to overcome the brainwashing.
The intellectual damage that religion does Sad, innit?
"Even after he's been shown the errors he makes, he still stubbornly clings to them."
We already know he's a christian. Don't belabor the obvious.
He once claimed on the old site, that when I said I was glad that the scientific quest for truth was eroding the myths made by religious claims, that non believers were using science as a weapon against religion
He sees knowledge as detrimental to superstition.
He would've been one of the torturers of the Inquisition(s).
Now, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Fortunately
I'm wondering if they will skip Obergefell and go straight for Lawrence.
Hard to say with this RW court.
I’m shocked they didn’t sue the parents of the little hussy who led their son into temptation.
That's next.
Some questions…
How old is JD and the girlfriend?
Did the school consider adding certain monitoring duties during this time where students weren’t expected to be in class?
Can the school legally inspect student vehicles or are they subject to the same inspection restrictions as lockers?
These parents are lashing out because they feel like they’re failing at parenting their child. They are, but not in the way they think. So they’re blaming anyone they can for their own failures . Take responsibility for your own children and your mistakes.
How old are the teens? My guess is at least 16, given ready access to a vehicle. That means the parents are expecting their son to be treated like he is 5 for a few more years and then be treated like he is 30, expecting him to get a job, go to college, get married and pump out some babies. Mor(m)onism is seriously fucked up
Because of the puritanical beliefs of no sex before marriage, many Mormon families expect their children to get married at 18. It is a very common practice. And it is between these type of high school sweetheart relationships.
If they were only 16, I can see the parent complaining to the school for dereliction of duty regarding monitoring the student actions on school grounds. Which is not what they sued for, so this ruling is right. But I don’t expect her to win on that either. Kids will find ways to not get caught.
If they were 18, mom needs to start backing off.
The failure in parenting is that the child is not connected to the parent enough to trust them and confide their desires. Making things like sex taboo only adds to rebellion and probably more risky behaviors. From what is presented here, I get the feeling he wasn’t forthcoming very much and that made mom have to check in on him constantly.
Plus, the year or two of mandatory missionary work.
Sounds like there has already been some missionary work.
Not in the backseat of a Volkswagen.
"Backseat of a Volkswagen."
You know your David Frye. :)
You know this, how? 😉
You know how.