I just now had a thought that may the power to fix EVERYTHING!
The many folks in MAGA, who are overwhelming white, crave nothing more than or beyond their own VICTIMIZATION!
But every single Black person I've ever known (or known of) in America is just sick to death of being actual victims for every second of their lives, and for the past 400+ years.
White MAGA wishes to be victims while Black folks wish NEVER to be victims again.
Couldn't the two groups just switch? MAGA can hate themselves (as they should), and the descendents of American slaves can finally live their dreams.
(WHat can I say? MAGA is doing stranger things than this.....)
Follows the standard conservative religious trend of making a general rule in order to try and fend off accusations of bigotry...then applying their rule only to gay and trans people.
Mormonism incorporates gender hierarchy into their theology even more than Evangelical churches. Your "perfect" afterlife greatly depends upon what was between your legs at birth, so it's not surprising they would reject and punish people who don't fit into their hierarchy. Best solution is to leave.
Well, it makes sense that you can’t transition. Men get their own planet for their wife and kids to live eternity with them. Women need to be able to leave their families to live on their husband’s planet. How do you keep track of the people are all changing genders all Willy nilly? Their nonsense only works when everything is black and white.
While I have no use for any form of organized religion, I classify the Mormon Church under the heading, “Some people will believe anything.” The Mormon guys in Vietnam always had the nastiest porn.
I remember reading an article nearly 50 years ago about how the Mormons treated gay people. A mother and therapist said something like, “the church seems to go out of its way to make sure that it hurts people who are gay, and to make sure that they know that they are broken beyond help of repair.’ not the exact words, but close enough. She was a therapist, and she couldn’t understand it.
That was when I began to understand the depth of hatred that exists in conservative religion for gay people then, and transgender people now. They can claim it’s all about their Christlike love all they wish, if you don’t mind that much sarcasm, but all that statement is about is they’re willing to tolerate you as long as you don’t get too uppity.
Among the many things that Donald Trump has to answer for, and there is a great deal of that, his demonization of transgender people for his own benefit has to rank as among the worst. It started before Trump, of course, but he saw a bit of nastiness he could double down on, and ran with it.
There is a website called floodlit.org, which reports on nothing but sexual abuse cases in the Moron Chruch that have gone into the criminal justice system. Here are the statistics:
Sexual abuse in the Mormon church
4,177 reports of sex abuse
394 times church officials allegedly hid abuse
132 accused former bishops
$52.2 million paid after alleged failures
261 ongoing criminal / civil cases
I imagine I could go through each and every one of these cases, and not find one single transgender person.
NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING ONE— LITERALLY.
But good christians that they are? The irony of that sarcasm…
Now that NASA has sent humans back to the Moon, maybe we should think about sending all Mormons to Kolob. It's their dream, isn't it? Sure, Kolob's a star and not a planet but what the heck? Their magic underwear will protect them, right?
I've mentiond it before, but black men were not allowed to be in the LDS priesthood. Nor would black men and women be allowed to participate in temple ordinances.
This policy, initiated by Brigham Young, lasted from 1852 until 1978, when it was lifted by then-LDS Presdent Spencer W. Kimball after a so-called "revelation" (was it a revelation about all that black money they were missing out on? Was it all the boycotts and protests?).
What's interesting to me is that no Mormon under 50 knows that black people had the "Mark of Cain" (as they called it). Those over 50 will deny it ever happened.
The "revelation" was that tax exemption was just a tiny bit more important than hating people of color. Sometimes the greed outweighs the bigotry, sometimes the bigotry outweighs the greed.
Greed and bigotry, bigotry and greed. These are the hallmarks of white evangelicalism, Mormonism, and rhe RCC. Not compassion. Not acceptance. Not basic human dignity.
Welcome to the RLDS, the REDUCTIONIST Latter-Day Saints, the church that cannot recognize the fact that some people are dealing with a very damned serious CONFLICT within themselves, between who they are and what their body says it is. If I recall correctly, Salt Lake City already has a considerable homeless problem, partly consisting of gay and lesbian teens who have been thrown out by their parents BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE. Congratulations, Mormons, you just formalized that procedure for trans kids.
It’s kind of incredible just how threatened they feel by anyone who lives freely and unapologetically. It’s a shame because Utah is such a beautiful state to visit. I was at Zion National Park where I saw a very large, very blonde, blue-eyed family with a sad looking young mother riding the shuttle. I have never met an ex-Mormon that wasn’t completely damaged.
The incredible lengths that men (mainly) will go to to dictate what "God" says. When really what you're hearing is their preferences, their words, their values, the things that keep them cemented in positions of power over women, children, nature and yes, trans folks. The fantasy they have that their words are actually god's words only holds up so long as they get everyone else to believe it too. "Cosign our bullshit and we'll get God to give you a cookie."
IMHO if there is indeed a God who created all this and he didn't like trans people, he wouldn't have made any. Doh! So all this effort they go through to have things be their way, all the suppression, denial of rights, heavy handed control, are all in direct opposition to what is actually being created. And please, don't give me that "God gave us free will and wants us to choose him" BS. That's just them making an excuse for why the world doesn't form itself around their shriveled up beliefs.
'What's my social status' and 'who is sleeping with whom' are pretty much the two big obsessions of every animal in the Hominid family, and I wouldn't be surprised if it extended to all primates. Fixating on those topics is an instinct going back millions of years.
Darwin called it right: intraspecies competition drives a lot more adaptation and evolution than interspecies predation etc. Priests are just acting like head apes, constantly attempting to monitor and control status and mating within their group, for their benefit. Humans: bigger brains, same fundamental behavior.
Oh and this is another instance of religious language making these people sound so shallow, ignorant, and out of touch with reality. They do it on purpose though, to keep their victims separate from society so they don’t feel comfortable with people outside their cult. More tactics of their morally bankrupt beliefs.
Church founded by a pedo and conman says what?
"Make America Great Again." Oh, wait, I got my pedos and conmen mixed up. Silly me.
Actually ... no, you don't! 😉
The true train "wreck" that we are in is mixing pedos and the DOJ.
I just now had a thought that may the power to fix EVERYTHING!
The many folks in MAGA, who are overwhelming white, crave nothing more than or beyond their own VICTIMIZATION!
But every single Black person I've ever known (or known of) in America is just sick to death of being actual victims for every second of their lives, and for the past 400+ years.
White MAGA wishes to be victims while Black folks wish NEVER to be victims again.
Couldn't the two groups just switch? MAGA can hate themselves (as they should), and the descendents of American slaves can finally live their dreams.
(WHat can I say? MAGA is doing stranger things than this.....)
If it's all about status at birth, that precludes any corrective surgeries, prosthetics, glasses & hearing aids, etc.
Don't forget hysterectomies.
Does the Magic Underwear counteract any of that? It's all so mysterious and holy in some way, I guess, and it's beyond my understanding.
Follows the standard conservative religious trend of making a general rule in order to try and fend off accusations of bigotry...then applying their rule only to gay and trans people.
What about every cell in the body being periodically replaced?
My entire "body at birth" has been replaced multiple times by now.
Mormonism incorporates gender hierarchy into their theology even more than Evangelical churches. Your "perfect" afterlife greatly depends upon what was between your legs at birth, so it's not surprising they would reject and punish people who don't fit into their hierarchy. Best solution is to leave.
So the plan is: stay in the closet until you get command of your planet. Then come out as trans and rule with an iron fist and fabulous makeup?
Kneel before Zod, queen of the desert!
ericc? Do your meds need adjustment?!? 😉
It's a double movie reference...from the 80s-90s. I am old.
I'll tell Terrence Stamp you said hi! 😁
Had you instead referenced "Zardoz", I'd have been equally in agreement.
Well, it makes sense that you can’t transition. Men get their own planet for their wife and kids to live eternity with them. Women need to be able to leave their families to live on their husband’s planet. How do you keep track of the people are all changing genders all Willy nilly? Their nonsense only works when everything is black and white.
If women can transition to men then there won't be enough planets to go around!
While I have no use for any form of organized religion, I classify the Mormon Church under the heading, “Some people will believe anything.” The Mormon guys in Vietnam always had the nastiest porn.
I remember reading an article nearly 50 years ago about how the Mormons treated gay people. A mother and therapist said something like, “the church seems to go out of its way to make sure that it hurts people who are gay, and to make sure that they know that they are broken beyond help of repair.’ not the exact words, but close enough. She was a therapist, and she couldn’t understand it.
That was when I began to understand the depth of hatred that exists in conservative religion for gay people then, and transgender people now. They can claim it’s all about their Christlike love all they wish, if you don’t mind that much sarcasm, but all that statement is about is they’re willing to tolerate you as long as you don’t get too uppity.
Among the many things that Donald Trump has to answer for, and there is a great deal of that, his demonization of transgender people for his own benefit has to rank as among the worst. It started before Trump, of course, but he saw a bit of nastiness he could double down on, and ran with it.
There is a website called floodlit.org, which reports on nothing but sexual abuse cases in the Moron Chruch that have gone into the criminal justice system. Here are the statistics:
Sexual abuse in the Mormon church
4,177 reports of sex abuse
394 times church officials allegedly hid abuse
132 accused former bishops
$52.2 million paid after alleged failures
261 ongoing criminal / civil cases
I imagine I could go through each and every one of these cases, and not find one single transgender person.
NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING ONE— LITERALLY.
But good christians that they are? The irony of that sarcasm…
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.....🎶
https://youtu.be/Hm3mDatFpNE?si=kWCetlYtKx9Vgt9b
That video never gets old!
Now that NASA has sent humans back to the Moon, maybe we should think about sending all Mormons to Kolob. It's their dream, isn't it? Sure, Kolob's a star and not a planet but what the heck? Their magic underwear will protect them, right?
It is a statistical likelihood that Kolob has planets. Plenty of real estate for their greedy little developers.
Fictional stars can have as many planets as you want.
I didn’t have the heart to tell Joe that Kolob isn’t real. :)
40 Eridani has 2 different fictional intelligent races living in its system, Star Trek's Vulcans and Project Hail Mary's Erids.
Funny how they never talk about each other. : )
They're both in Fight Club.
And the First Rule of Fight Club is ...
Gonna need a lot of astrophage for that.
😂
https://i.redd.it/xj3t8mrbd5n51.jpg
I love that the Mormons still have at least one of Joey's "seer stones" but they didn't get to keep the golden tablets that NO ONE EVER SAW.
I've mentiond it before, but black men were not allowed to be in the LDS priesthood. Nor would black men and women be allowed to participate in temple ordinances.
This policy, initiated by Brigham Young, lasted from 1852 until 1978, when it was lifted by then-LDS Presdent Spencer W. Kimball after a so-called "revelation" (was it a revelation about all that black money they were missing out on? Was it all the boycotts and protests?).
What's interesting to me is that no Mormon under 50 knows that black people had the "Mark of Cain" (as they called it). Those over 50 will deny it ever happened.
“The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham.”
— Brigham Young
Let them deny THAT.
So the "revelation" by Spencer W. Kimball in 1978 contradicts Brigham Young?
I wonder what else Brigham got wrong?
What did he get wrong? You could write a book on that one!
I needed a quote for today's Quote of the Day. Thanks, bro!
If I recall, it was ALSO a pending loss of tax-exempt status from the federal government, BECAUSE of their bigotry.
Aaaah, just coincidence, right? 😝
The "revelation" was that tax exemption was just a tiny bit more important than hating people of color. Sometimes the greed outweighs the bigotry, sometimes the bigotry outweighs the greed.
Most of the time the greed and bigotry enable each other.
(𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑒𝑝𝑡𝑒𝑑.)
Greed and bigotry, bigotry and greed. These are the hallmarks of white evangelicalism, Mormonism, and rhe RCC. Not compassion. Not acceptance. Not basic human dignity.
Of COURSE, "donations from trans people will still be accepted!" Let's not forget what the Mormon church is about in the first place:
♫♪ Money-money-money-money ... MONEY! ♪♫
Is there a religion that isn't ultimately about greed and bigotry?
Welcome to the RLDS, the REDUCTIONIST Latter-Day Saints, the church that cannot recognize the fact that some people are dealing with a very damned serious CONFLICT within themselves, between who they are and what their body says it is. If I recall correctly, Salt Lake City already has a considerable homeless problem, partly consisting of gay and lesbian teens who have been thrown out by their parents BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE. Congratulations, Mormons, you just formalized that procedure for trans kids.
I hope the blowback on this is swift and STRONG.
How many of these awful Mor(m)on parents who discarded their now homeless children also want to make homelessness a crime?
When this brand of mad and intolerant ideology is in play, NOTHING surprises me.
It’s kind of incredible just how threatened they feel by anyone who lives freely and unapologetically. It’s a shame because Utah is such a beautiful state to visit. I was at Zion National Park where I saw a very large, very blonde, blue-eyed family with a sad looking young mother riding the shuttle. I have never met an ex-Mormon that wasn’t completely damaged.
I'll say it again: When ideology collides with human beings, it's not the ideology that gets hurt.
The incredible lengths that men (mainly) will go to to dictate what "God" says. When really what you're hearing is their preferences, their words, their values, the things that keep them cemented in positions of power over women, children, nature and yes, trans folks. The fantasy they have that their words are actually god's words only holds up so long as they get everyone else to believe it too. "Cosign our bullshit and we'll get God to give you a cookie."
IMHO if there is indeed a God who created all this and he didn't like trans people, he wouldn't have made any. Doh! So all this effort they go through to have things be their way, all the suppression, denial of rights, heavy handed control, are all in direct opposition to what is actually being created. And please, don't give me that "God gave us free will and wants us to choose him" BS. That's just them making an excuse for why the world doesn't form itself around their shriveled up beliefs.
Dictators gonna dictate...dicishly.
To the holier-than-thou hypocrites of the LDS...
3 words: Mountain Meadows Massacre. Now STFU.
As always, the religious are most concerned about only two things: what's between somebody else's legs, and money.
'What's my social status' and 'who is sleeping with whom' are pretty much the two big obsessions of every animal in the Hominid family, and I wouldn't be surprised if it extended to all primates. Fixating on those topics is an instinct going back millions of years.
Darwin called it right: intraspecies competition drives a lot more adaptation and evolution than interspecies predation etc. Priests are just acting like head apes, constantly attempting to monitor and control status and mating within their group, for their benefit. Humans: bigger brains, same fundamental behavior.
But...but...but...all the holy books say humans are special! /s
Oh and this is another instance of religious language making these people sound so shallow, ignorant, and out of touch with reality. They do it on purpose though, to keep their victims separate from society so they don’t feel comfortable with people outside their cult. More tactics of their morally bankrupt beliefs.