Mike Johnson, the new speaker of the House, voiced support for revisiting Supreme Court decisions that struck down restrictions on the use of contraception, barred bans on gay sex and legalized same sex marriages, according to a CNN review of his prior public statement.
"It’s incredible that this issue, in 2023, is the hill on which UMC members have chosen to die." But is it really incredible? Religion is all about sex. I thought everyone knew that.
I thought (oh so wrongly) that Methodists were more accepting of LGBTQ+. When I was looking up some more info on the subject I discovered the Free Methodist Church. Nope, they’re just as bigoted as the others. I hope all this leads to a bitter nasty divorce.
Yet another fan base schism for the Christian church. They really do love their my-way-or-the-highway attitudes, don't they?
I honestly wish this were likely to lead to more people leaving religion entirely, but I'm not sure it will. The split I went though as a child isn't why I left, or more accurately, it's not the only reason I left. I left because I finally had a real option to do so, I'd been wanting to get out for years by the time I finally managed it. Still, it's nice that at least some churches trying to support LGBTQ+ persons, and sticking to their efforts to do so. Seems a bit late and a little short to me, but it's something.
Now, if we could just convince Russia that Ukraine doesn't belong to them, then work on Israel and Palestine/Hamas getting along.....
When I was younger, the Methodists and Presbyterians were quite liberal... but, their 'base' has gotten much older and apparently are sitting at home getting propagandized by TV. Still the majority of their churches are staying in the fold and maybe they can eke out a continued existence minus the bigots. I think it is great that the bigots are segregating themselves and setting a big red arrow pointed at themselves. As Hemant notes, they are not going to be able to recruit any younger church goers.
These people talk to god all the time, and put their faith and trust utterly in him as the most loving, powerful, protective, and overall most important influence in their lives, right?
Seems it would be best to just ask god and get the answer right from the source.
(Unless, of course, there's this nagging suspicion that maybe that source isn't everything it's cracked up to be...)
thoughts and prayers
Sad trumpet noises
Wah wah waaah.
Divided Methodist Church.
(This comment was published earlier. ; )
Mike Johnson’s America: Revisit landmark SCOTUS decisions and use government to ‘restrain eviil.'
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/21/politics/mike-johnson-kfile-invs/index.html
Mike Johnson, the new speaker of the House, voiced support for revisiting Supreme Court decisions that struck down restrictions on the use of contraception, barred bans on gay sex and legalized same sex marriages, according to a CNN review of his prior public statement.
Shall we all grab popcorn and watch as the UMC do to each other what atheists could never do them: tear themselves to pieces.
I keep saying it: Atheists are not the threat to Christians. Other Christians are.
Looks like the Methodists are having their Southern Baptist moment.
Religion: society's accepted mental illness.
"It’s incredible that this issue, in 2023, is the hill on which UMC members have chosen to die." But is it really incredible? Religion is all about sex. I thought everyone knew that.
Very sad. What's everyone having for dinner? We had fried chicken.
I thought (oh so wrongly) that Methodists were more accepting of LGBTQ+. When I was looking up some more info on the subject I discovered the Free Methodist Church. Nope, they’re just as bigoted as the others. I hope all this leads to a bitter nasty divorce.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f84ae9df239f66f203abd7e7afd17437e94ab00aa7122fe519f80c04da7b2b78.jpg
Yet another fan base schism for the Christian church. They really do love their my-way-or-the-highway attitudes, don't they?
I honestly wish this were likely to lead to more people leaving religion entirely, but I'm not sure it will. The split I went though as a child isn't why I left, or more accurately, it's not the only reason I left. I left because I finally had a real option to do so, I'd been wanting to get out for years by the time I finally managed it. Still, it's nice that at least some churches trying to support LGBTQ+ persons, and sticking to their efforts to do so. Seems a bit late and a little short to me, but it's something.
Now, if we could just convince Russia that Ukraine doesn't belong to them, then work on Israel and Palestine/Hamas getting along.....
Schismzam? Shazism?
More of that Christian love.
When I was younger, the Methodists and Presbyterians were quite liberal... but, their 'base' has gotten much older and apparently are sitting at home getting propagandized by TV. Still the majority of their churches are staying in the fold and maybe they can eke out a continued existence minus the bigots. I think it is great that the bigots are segregating themselves and setting a big red arrow pointed at themselves. As Hemant notes, they are not going to be able to recruit any younger church goers.
Why don't they just ask god who's right?
These people talk to god all the time, and put their faith and trust utterly in him as the most loving, powerful, protective, and overall most important influence in their lives, right?
Seems it would be best to just ask god and get the answer right from the source.
(Unless, of course, there's this nagging suspicion that maybe that source isn't everything it's cracked up to be...)