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It's amazing how poorly these Christian legislators understand their own religion. Remember the story: Moses gets the 10 Commandments in Exodus 20. He comes down Mt. Sinai, sees the Israelites worshipping the golden calf, gets furious, and smashes the tablets. Eventually, Moses goes back up the mountain to get another set. God makes clear that it's the same laws as before: "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke" (Exodus 34:1).

But read them--they're not even close to the original set! Go on--read Exodus 34. It's not long.

This ignorant law is listing the 10 Commandments from Exodus 20, but it was the second set that made it into the Ark of the Covenant. These politicians want to be taken seriously, but they can't even get their own mythology straight!

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++ In addition to that, they seem to be operating under the delusion forcing religion on people makes moral, and history does not begin to support that idea.

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It’s never really been about faith, it’s about power. Organized religion is simply a mechanism for psychopaths to gain power over other people.

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Forcing religious dogma on people in a publicly supported venue is so not productive toward convincing people to adhere to the dogma. Most citizens, including children, who do not put stock into the dogma will just get more pissed off at the Christian fanatics and will confirm how irrelevant it is to their lives.

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I’m pissed off just reading about this.

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IF tRump wins, and Putin comes to power, will we be forced into the russan orthordox church? What will farnkenpope say about that? His swiss guard with their latest in spear making tech will be sent against the russian army?

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Primates show their displeasure by hurling crap at offending people.

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The mad hatter of rome never needed his own army. He can just bring back the happy fun crusades for children of all ages. I don't doubt that even the anti-pope magats would love to send all the kiddies to crusade camp to learn how to be good little soldiers for god.. I mean Trump.

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I was thinking the other day how many people are in US prisons, jails, etc.......the US has the largest number of prisoners WORLDWIDE.......roughly 1.8 million people incarcerated at the end 2023.

Since most Americans are initially raised going to church as christians, that means the vast majority of these inmates probably identify as christian..... and spent at least sometime (if not a lot of time) going to church growing up.

What gives?

Could it be the bible is not the answer? Could it be religion is not the answer?

Could it be jesus is not the answer?

Could it be church is not the answer?

"things that make you go hmmmm"

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So true. If kristianity were as great and wonderful as they think, then prisons would be bursting at the seams with non-believers and non kristians. Instead, US prisons are bursting at the seams with kristians. 🤔

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Yes, indeed! We really need to make sure school children remember not to cook a young goat in its mother's milk!

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Some of the biblical food rules made sense, especially in a world with poor hygiene and no refrigeration. But this goat prohibition thing seems oddly specific and downright weird.

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Jun 20·edited Jun 20

I always thought it showed a softer side of vicious and violent, blood lusting Yahweh.

Don't boil a kid in its mother's milk cuz it's mean!

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Ever try boiling milk? It boils over every time. That is prolly why.

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Wait a sec! Something of practical value in the Bible? C’mon!

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Didn't he make a dad eat his own kid? This seems very arbitrary.

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Fish without scales, like eels, were forbidden too.

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Speaking of fish without scales, my daughter loves calamari. Pork was actually understandable because of trichinosis.

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Yes, undercooked pork can be dangerous, but the same is true for beef, chicken, or any other meat.

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Yeah, but even the trichinosis theory has been debunked. My personal favorite theory is that pork is outlawed because it can't be distinguished by look or taste from human flesh.

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One professor I ran across suggested that pigs tended to essentially compete with humans for food sources to a greater extent in the ancient Middle East than was typical elsewhere, making them an inefficient food supply.

No idea if this is true or not.

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The other white meat!

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Incredibly, this (and two other verses like it) are the origin of kosher laws. Rabbis have been arguing for millennia what's required to obey this law.

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Gotta be an easier way to discourage the creation of such a culinary dish.

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Was that Martha Stewart or Julia Child?

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oh my goodness - those are insane!! Festival of the Weeks? sacrifice? no wonder why we aren't taught these new commandments

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Jun 20·edited Jun 20

KKKristerism has its roots dedep in animal and human sacrifice. THEIR HIGH HOLY MASCOT was a sacrifice to god for our imaginary sins.

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First came Shavuot. The came gluten. The end.

Have a nice gluten-free Shavuot everyone.

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Jun 20·edited Jun 20

"Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke" (Exodus 34:1).

It's instructive to read the verses that followed as well:

"And Moses did burn like an embarrassed bush, and grudgingly admitted: 'Yes, fine, I broke the tablets: I think that's been established. It's called having a bad day, Lord -- ring any bells?' And the LORD did say unto him: 'What art thou suggesting?' and Moses spake: 'Oh, I don't know: little story of a boat with a bunch of animals in it comes to mind. Certain "God of love" KILLED EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE HE WAS PISSED OFF?? That jog your memory at all, Mr. Perfect?' And the LORD spake unto him: 'Look pal, I have a RIGHT to be a genocidal asshole, I CREATED this place. Mind your p's and q's, or you might wake up to find your wife's been turned into a nice food seasoning.' [Exodus 34:2-7]

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excellent!

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😜

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Your comment reminded me of two songs. “Jerry Falwell’s God” by Roy Zimmerman and “Hand of the Almighty” by John Butler. Both good for some laughs, cause the truth hurts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIK0xIZbim8

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Great stuff, Malt!😂

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Butler has some more. Just search in YouTube.

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They aren't about to read that silly book of theirs, there's grifting to be done!

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I have seen a documentary that proves there were more than ten commandments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wunGF3oMA0

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You broke it, you buy it

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Any third year law student would tell you that this law violates the Establishment Clause. It’s going down.

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I think the fun part is trying to figure out what line of bullshit Alito and Thomas will use to argue that it’s Constitutional.

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Since clarence wants to roll back Gay rights? Lets roll them back to where he is prosecuted for miscegenation then imprison him and his trophy wife. She is what the KKK called a "race traitor."

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Nope, the face-eating leopards get off one exit earlier, y'see.

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She's NO trophy!

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I'm a retired engineer, not a lawyer, and *I* know that!

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I am neither a lawyer or American, maybe I am more qualified to be a lawmaker in Louisiana.

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And you speak better French.

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With a BIG assist from Google Translate! 😁

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Ahem. Parle pour toi, gros 😝

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My apologies. I thought he was talkin' to me. [and it's WAY too early to reach for the Glenlivet!]

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Je vous remercie humblement pour le compliment.

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You are likely more qualified than most of those SERVING in Louisiana!

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Speaking of serving, I hear they got a lot of crabs in Louisiana. Probably not abiding by the 6th commandment, I suppose.

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As well as the fact that your mastery of the English language is at a higher level than the Louisiana lawmakers!

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There is limitations. I understand nothing about the link nmgirl posted.

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She is telling commandments from a cat's perspective. She uses typical cat jargon like "kitteh" instead of kittie, "hooman" instead of human. The cat speaks in extremely broken English!

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Are you sure it's not a majorly traitor greed bill ?

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They likely know it too, but the lawsuit will raise the governor and legislature's profile in the magaverse. It is all performative - unless it goes to the religious whack jobs on the top court.

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I’m just a simple unfrozen caveman lawyer, but there is one thing I do KNOW and that’s if it is not written in stone then it’s inconsequential nonsense!. Nothing gets my juices going than beholding chiseled slabs.

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I think the more dangerous trend is replacing professional counselors with pastors in schools. It's a multi-pronged attack from the christians.

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That's what they do, attack in several fronts so the least stupid one looks like a small concession.

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This reminds me of the story about a kid who asked his parents for a tattoo because what he really wanted was a pierced ear. :D

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They know, they just hope the US not so Supreme Court will say it is okay. And then the problems will start for real.

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First year. ;)

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Preschool.

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Would that we could be so confident, given the new reality in which we live. The Supremes have shown little regard for common sense, the Constitution, or the will of the people since the court was captured by Republican donors.

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Law & common sense matter not. ALL that matters is fealty to the kkkrister holy spook.

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There are perfectly valid secular justifications for outlawing robbery and murder. Under certain specific circumstances it can be illegal to lie. Other than that, the Commandments would be unconstitutional should anyone try writing them into law. Unfortunately, this is going to be a win-win for the religious right. They either get to mark their territory in the public schools paid for with everyone's tax dollars, or they get to play the poor persecuted victims of the godless left. This is a naked attempt to force Christianity on children in a setting where they have no power.

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The absurdity is, the group that I’ve come to expect to lie the most are evangelical Christians. Their chosen leader and his 30,000+ documented lies.

Lies roll off their tongues like gumballs out of a gumball machine? And if they’re using the thou shall not kill Commandment, are they going to change their death penalty view? Of course not, hypocrites.

Who do they think they’re fooling?

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If they're fooling anyone, it is themselves. Nothing ever demonstrated the disconnect between religion and morality quite like the evangelical preacher pledging their unconditional love for the most grotesquely immoral President in our history.

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unconditional love for Trump, terms and conditions, that no one else can pass, apply for anyone else, especially women, LGBTQ people, black people, immigrants, non-Christians, Christians from other sects and churches within the sect, etc.

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Don't you know African Americans are drumpster best people ? He proved it by filling the pews of a historically black church with white people.

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And then he left that black church field with white people to go to a get together with a man who claims black are inferior.

Trump’s plan is to pull just the few stupid people from the blacks, from the gays, from the Christians, that will push him over the line with his fascist followers.

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well said!

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AND their goddyboy's "unconditional" love.*

*Their god made me knowing I will be gay and fall in love with another man. Now it will

*burn me unconditionally

for eternity. After all, I had the temerity to be what it made me.

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". . . are they going to change their death penalty view?"

Of course not. More proof that they are not "pro-life."

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in practice, “pro-life” is code for:

LET WOMEN SUFFER AND DIE.

We know this is so because when we all hear the horror stories of women with doomed and dangerous pregnancies, the forced birth crowd tells us the abortion bans “are working as intended” and they want a national.

In Amarillo, TX the city council has been discussing FOR MONTHS if they should ban pregnant women from traveling out of state because anti-abortionists can’t bear it that some women might have the fortitude and money to travel to get the health care they need.

The mayor claimed that prohibition wasn’t within his power. Really? I hope he had more to say. How about it would interfere with women’s right to travel across state lines?

Forced birthers aren’t done. They want to deny contraceptives. Prohibit IVF. Chip. Chip. Chipping away at women’s reproductive rights for decades. Women never really had the full benefit of Roe (and the Casey ruling where the SC held there could be no unburden on reproductive rights). Even before the Dobbs ruling it was really difficult to obtain birth control. Long wait times to get an appointment.

It seems for forced birthers it’s open season on women’s rights. As Jake Tapper recently pointed out, prohibiting IVF infringes on men’s rights, too. Maybe if the issue is framed as hurting someone OTHER THAN women, it will get some traction.

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They are also going after no-fault divorces because property has no rights.

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That's a two way street as soon as the man wants a divorce but wife refuses. It will backfire on the politicians when their male voters can't divorce their wives.

Good recent article on rolling back no-fault.

https://www.vox.com/today-explained-newsletter/354635/divorce-no-fault-states-marriage-republicans

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Without divorce, more women should be encouraged to follow in Francine Hughes footsteps. Maybe that would get some attention.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087010/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VPpAZ9_qAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw7gNf_9njs

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A point I raise constantly "pro-life" is a marketing term their focus groups and think-tanks made up, once open racism was no longer publically acceptable to say out loud. They needed a new issue to get their sheep to the polls to vote for republicans, abortion was the only cause that made them feel rightous enough to work.

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Each other. it's called "Virtue signaling" That way the wingnuts give them money for doing what the wingnuts want them to do. Force their phoney religion on the population.

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"Who do they think they’re fooling?"

Everybody. They're THAT delusional. The only ones who don't fall for their BS are those "blinded by Satan."

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They also think that the vast majority of Americans agree with them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KiCEJoX9kE

George Carlin's Commandments.

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I grew up in a church that insisted the King James Version was the "best" version of the Bible. (That's the version of LA's 10 commandments, FYI.) I was gobsmacked as an adult to read that James VI and I (who commissioned the KJV translation) was gay. Bet my childhood pastor didn't know he was promoting the "best" version of the Bible, sponsored by a homosexual.

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I grew up Roman Catholic in the 50s and 60s.We used exclusively the Douay version, which I read the summer before my 9th birthday. (Sitting with the big family Bible open across my braced legs. My mom took a picture of her "pious" child. The truth was that there were few other books in the house.) The KJV was on the banned list, so I didn't read it til I was 13. That list of banned (by the RCC) books was a great source of what to read next! Yeah, I know the RCC *says* they stopped issuing the list in the 60s, but my guess is that the local diocese kept it going til c1970.

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Lat I heard the Latin Vulgate was the kkkatlik version. Their condemned movies were a great guide, too.

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I was referring to the (authorized?) English edition, sometimes called the Douay-Rheims version, dating from sometime in the 1950s. In Latin, of course, it's the Vulgate. That's what the church my family went to used. That church didn't start using English til after I left home in 1970. Since we didn't have a television til I was 15, and I didn't see any movies til I was in high school, the list of condemned movies was less useful. I did take a copy of that list every time it was available, about 4 times a year. My parents didn't give a flying fuck what I read, though I'm sure they would have objected if they knew what was in that pile of books I brought back from the library each week.

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Yes, It was translated to be flowery in it's prose, rather than accurate.

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I think we should have this book banned then......🤣

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I guess my good grades in history, biology, art and English were due to the 10 commandments being displayed in my classrooms. So who is responsible for my abysmal grades in maths ? 🤣🤣🤣

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The high school that I attended and the one my daughter went to both were among the highest ranked in their respective states, and NEITHER of them had the slightest whiff of the bible in their classrooms. Yet Landry seems to think that the 10 Cs will improve Louisiana's abysmal standing in education.

Something is not quite right here (and it's mostly intuitively obvious!).

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I imagine the howling if someone attempted to pass such a bill in my country. Our public schools are strictly secular since 1886.

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That is because you are civilized, unlike ourselves.

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I agree, but getting there was quite choppy.

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The guillotine cut short resistance to secularization in the land of liberté, égalité, et fraternité.

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They don't seek to improve - an ignorant and propagandized electorate is the goal.

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I don't see him saying it will improve test scores but I think that's the point. Maga-Christians are anti-education. They are trying to tear down our public education system to insure that future generations are too dumb to care about anything like climate change or equality.

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He's pushing it because it will be mired in the courts for many years, and the funding that will take can be sucked out of the education budget, therefore, he's defunding education without having to be seen defunding education.

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I doubt he came up with that on his own. Wonder which fascist string-puller put the idea in his head?

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Project Blitz and its offshoots. Project 2025 likely.

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ALEC?

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The usual ones the federalists and Leonard Leo, the U-line office supply guy and the Koch Machine (can't call them the Koch Brothers since David died and Charles pushed the others out entirely.)

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The Bible - it says the value of pi is 3.0...

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they just dropped the decimals. How would you do that in roman numerals?

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I don't know, but if they use pi=3, they would get lopsided circles... The Sumerians, Egyptians, and Greeks used 22/7 and did quite well.

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I had good grades in writing, german and math. I guess I stole your grades in math.

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Your cousin? I know it was not me.

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Maybe we are related. If I had the money I would check if I have Normand ancestry somewhere 😁

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Some of my ancestors are from Denmark and southern Norway, but mostly they are of sami heritage. That is far away from France.

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I am 87% bohunk (Slavic) with some Nordic and Iberian Peninsula plus Brit. My ancestors roamed a bit?

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Yea, that's what humans do.

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Since Homo Erectus.

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Where do you think the word Normandie came from ? 😁

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Not from my sami ancestors. Maybe from the Danes? 🤔

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Normandie means land/territory of the men from the North aka Scandinavians :)

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From the Conquest family?

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Aren't you a little Hastings with your comment ?

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Maybe from that nice couple, Norman and Dierdre. Most of us know them as Norm and Dee. 😁

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I’m so fucking sick of these people

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Can I covet my neighbor's husband?

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GO FOR IT! Knock yerself out! 🤣🤣🤣

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"Can I covet my neighbor's husband?"

As long as you do it in Jesus' name and donate to the Republican Party, sure!

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ONLY if it is hetero. Don't want any of that evil queer shit in their religious superstitions.

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If you ordinately desire your neighbor’s spouse it’s ok. Just get their spouse’s permission.

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Obviously!

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I love that the ACLU, AU, and FFRF are in a coalition fighting against this. How many amicus briefs will be submitted as well…

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He wants it to go to a corrupt SCOTUS in order to somehow say that the government promoting his religion is Constitutional. If anyone else tried it, it would be unConstitutional.

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𝐺𝑜𝑣. 𝐿𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑟𝑦 𝑚𝑢𝑠𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑠𝑢𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝑆𝑜 𝑤ℎ𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙? 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑎𝑟-𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑅𝑒𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑁𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑐𝑎𝑚𝑝.

So here we go again: virtue-signaling and territory-marking, all for the glory of Yahweh. And of course, the ACLU is already on their case, and I'd bet a cup of coffee that the FFRF, American Atheists, and Americans United will file 𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑠 briefs against the bill. Taxpayer money and legislators' time will be wasted, and HB71 SHOULD go down in flames.

Except that there's this little matter of the Supreme Court and its current radical swing to the right. Is it possible that they can actually recognize the precedent which THEY SET THEMSELVES with 𝑆𝑡𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑣. 𝐺𝑟𝑎ℎ𝑎𝑚, or will they reverse themselves for the umpti-umpth time?

Stay tuned.

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Why not include the Torah? Instead of a Christian chaplain in the public schools, let's have a Rabbi teach these kids the material written by ancient Hebrews. Would the good governor object to a bar mitzvah or two?

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A cafeteria worker who doubles as a mohel (in much the same was as the geography teacher also coaches football).

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"Two Jews, three opinions". Things would get interesting.

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Can't wait to see what the Satanic Temple comes up with for this one.

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Posting the 7 fundamental tenets of TST, I'll wager. A far-superior list that is all-inclusive.

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KKKristers love their gods cuz it hates so many people.

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More Dominionist Wak-a-Mole. They want this in front these 6 supremes so badly they can taste it. Besides, Hammurabi's Code is over 1000 years older - Exodus and Deuteronomy do not contain the oldest law...

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In high school, in law and economics lessons, we did a brief history of codified laws. Guess which one was mentioned.

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Jun 20·edited Jun 20

There is absolutely NO REASON why the 10 Commandments should be displayed I'm a public school. In church, privately in your own home yes but in a public school. Never. Why? Not every teacher or student is Christian -- imagine being a teacher who has a different religious belief or no religious belief forced to look at something at work they may take issue with. Same with students. They will be made to feel uncomfortable and maybe even harassed by other teachers and students who do believe(Yup that would be real Christian) Jeff Landry if I lived in Louisiana I would be the first to sue your hypocritical, "me only", republican a- - . Go to prison. That sound Mr.Landry, that's the sound of voters voting you out! Sick F

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“If you want to respect the rule of law, you gotta start from the original law given which was Moses. … He got his commandments from God,” Landry said.

There were laws before Moses, dipshit.

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Jun 20·edited Jun 20

He couldn't even get the "real" 10 Commandments from his own book.

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I know, right?

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The history of using the ten commandments in schools is irrelevant to the current issue here. Because the Supreme Court (one that was respectable and not completely corrupt) decided that the use of the ten commandments was unconstitutional, which means that it was wrong to use them before the SCOTUS decision. Tradition wasn't a compelling argument to continue the practice when actual justices were present. Tradition is still not a compelling argument to allow law breaking.

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I doubt those who passed this bill give a ripe dump about "relevance." They care about putting their Christian stamp on everything they see, including the government and their schools. They think it means that those entities agree with them or can be made to do so.

They're wrong, of course, but they don't care.

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Yes, it's just more territorial pissing by those who are not housebroken.

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Come on, cut Landry a little slack here. Louisiana has a looooong way to go if it wants to catch up to Texas and Florida as the biggest asshole states in the country. /s

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Considering LA is the worst state to live in, and is either ranked dead last or less than 5th worst in every metric that matters, I would be comfortable saying that Texas and Florida are currently working to catch up to Louisiana by being such giant dicks.

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Granted, but Florida has De Santis and Texas has Abbott and Fled Cruz.

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The Murderer Abbott and The Crook Ken Paxton and Ted Fucking Cancun Cruz.

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