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oraxx's avatar

I would refer those people opposing the posting of the Ten Commandments in classrooms to the King James Version of the Constitution, specifically the section outlining the divine right of Republicans. /S

There was a time when Americans could rely upon the federal court system and the Supreme Court to protect freedoms, but no more. All that has been tossed out the window in the name of conservatism, and judges who never gave up on feudalism.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Freedom to impede others' freedoms is still freedom.

Holytape's avatar

It tells a lot about Landry. He thinks that the ten commandments are so boring, uninteresting and trivial that all one has to do to ignore them is to look away. And yet, a book with a gay character is so interesting and alluring, that the only way to prevent a child from looking at the book, it to physically remove it. That if a child had physical access to such a book, they would be drawn to it like a nail to a magnet, and the power of such a book would change that child's life in important and dramatic ways. But the ten commandments are so weak and trivial, that as soon as you look away, they disappear like a fart in the wind.

Sko Hayes's avatar

And then Landry telling parents if they don't want the Ten Commandments in the classroom, their child shouldn't look at it.

Why can't that also apply to books they don't like and trans kids? Just don't look!!

Joe King's avatar

Because it's about power and control over who and what people are allowed to be. They see the books they don't like and the fact that trans kids exist as challenging their power. They know that having the ten commandments posted IS indoctrination, they just want it to be THEIR indoctrination to show we who do not think the way they do that we do not count.

Sko Hayes's avatar

As Dennis Praeger said, that's "good indoctrination"

Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I'm willing to bet that after awhile, the kids won't even notice it.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Cooties.

Is your new avatar a sunflower ?

Sko Hayes's avatar

Yes, Kansas' state flower!

Kay-El's avatar

My personal avatar on my phone is a sunflower. I’m not from Kansas, but I grow them every year in my garden.

Sko Hayes's avatar

I LOVE sunflowers, grow them every year. And we have a wild variety that grows along the roadsides.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

• 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑃𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑗𝑢𝑟𝑦. Hmmm, perhaps suggesting that injury MAY occur once the displays are posted? Isn't it a good idea to AVOID injury wherever possible?

• 𝐼 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑒𝑟 𝑣𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙, 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑏𝑖𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑎𝑛 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡. Which can also be called: The Tyranny of the Majority. You might want to ask the Jews of Germany, around the 1930s and 40s about that.

• ... 𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑠. See above.

As to that poster with Heston and Miranda, I wonder if Lin Manuel consented to the use of his image, regarding that. I'm willing to bet he knows NOTHING about it.

And once again, we have a Republican stooge, playing to his Christian base and ignoring those who may believe differently or not at all, regarding his deity.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I think there are copyrights to the list below him, as well. Maybe Miranda needs to be informed if he is not already aware.

Maltnothops's avatar

Yes. That would be "actual injury"

Pope Buck I's avatar

"...democracy actually means majority rules."

Finally, an appropriate place to yell THIS ISN'T A DEMOCRACY, IT'S A REPUBLIC!

Moon Cat's avatar

A Republic is a form of Democracy. 🙄

AlbertCamus's avatar

Democratic Republic! Brilliant!

Holytape's avatar

𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑠...... But we have to keep the senate ad te electoral college the way they are so that rural voters aren't silenced.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Which is just about the only way Republicans can maintain any form of power these days ... 😝

Julie Duggan's avatar

Baby Bush and Trump never would have sat in the White House if the outdated and useless electoral college wasn't still in place. Both lost the popular vote.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

True enough ... and getting shut of the EC will be difficult at best.

Alverant's avatar

Years ago they passed a law in that state to allow tax dollars to fund religious schools. A Muslim school asked for money and the person who wrote the law said, "I thought 'religious' meant 'Christian'!" and proceeded to cancel the law she wrote. They're admitting it's about using the power of the state to establish a Christian theocracy.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Isn't it amazing what happens when some clueless believer gets the god-glasses pulled from their eyes? 😏

Pope Buck I's avatar

We REALLY need to start requiring civics classes again.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

You noticed that, too, didja? [sigh]

Len Koz's avatar

I noticed that years back. I was most impressed by a Republican representative who said that someone should create a law about something that he disliked. So impressed that I wrote him to remind him that his job is to create laws, not just soak up as much money as possible from special interest groups.

Moon Cat's avatar

That's why the Satanic Temple is so wonderful when they show up and demand a poster listing their beliefs. It really shakes these Christofascists up.

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Alverant's avatar

Similar thing happened in one of Chicago's far NW burbs, a city council considered the idea of an opening prayer. Then it was pointed out other religions would also be allowed.

Guess what, the idea ended. They didn't like the idea of being forced to listen to the prayers of other religions. I don't think they took that last step to realize other people wouldn't want to be forced to listen to their prayers either.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

""I did not know that the Ten Commandments was such a bad way for someone to live their life," Landry said."

With all the language that supports slavery, yeah, I would say the ten commandments are a bad way to live life. The way the commandments discuss women is pretty dehumanizing and misogynistic.

Besides, the first few are all about acknowledging the superiority of a god not everyone believes in. So, hello, plenty of folks will find issue with living their life by the ten commandments.

Straw's avatar

I am not even close to support the 10 commandements as such. There are a few good sentences, buy mostly it's bullshit.

Moon Cat's avatar

Actually it says 'thou shall not have other Gods before me' which indicates that there are other Gods. And it goes on to say that this God is a jealous God. Which implies insecurity and again affirms the presence of other Gods (and Goddesses which is actually what the Bible is completely against).

Stephen Brady's avatar

White Nationalists/ Dominionists are trying mightily to cram their beliefs down everybody's throats. I never believed in god and announced I was an atheist at age 10. I would be offended if I were in one of those classrooms as a kid, now. And this is the KJV - There is a substantial RCC presence in LA. I suspect they don't approve of this version.

Dianne Marie Leonard's avatar

You are right: the catholic version (which I could recite by the tme I was in second grade) is quite different. However, considering that the religious right is now a strategic coalition between catholics and evangelical protestants, there were probably at least a few catholics in the LA legislature who voted for this idiocy. Keeping their eyes on the prize, dontcha know. Which is why I keep saying that, within 24 hours of them taking power, they'll be murdering each other in the streets over minor points of conflicting mythology. They are the most intolerant people I know.

Stephen Brady's avatar

reichwing christianists are completely judgemental and totally intolerant of diverse opinions.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It's a tradition. Let's just hope they will be too occupied with their Battle Royale to remember the non christians.

cdbunch's avatar

I never took you for a radical optimist. :)

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I sailed one in sports in 5th grade. Does that count ? 😁

Sko Hayes's avatar

They are already preparing to rid themselves of those annoying priests and Bishops...

Julie Duggan's avatar

I look forward to the Baptists and Catholics fighting over power in LA.

Moon Cat's avatar

Historically the Catholic vs Protestant Wars never concluded. They were disarmed by the Enlightenment and Democracy. I expect them to resume if the Christofascists take over the Government. And I would bet on the Catholics with 1000 years of rule, the Inquisition, Crusades, and currently control of the Judiciary. Evangelicals are the despised Puritans that no one liked. They kill all joy.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

The continued long after the Enlightenment in some countries. See Ireland.

Ro's avatar

LOL, in some Catholic schools they virtually tell you the Bible is a lot of myth, etc. Not that you should not obey the Ten Commandments. But they don't think about them I the same way. So it's just one version of Christianity that they're pushing here.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

"The Plaintiffs cannot prove that they have any actual injury."

Something in your Constitution about not endorsing a religion.

"then a Ten Commandments poster with a pentagram in the background"

Why not an hexagram instead, histoire de rappeler d'où les 10 commandements viennent.

"at least November 15"

🖕

Hannah Bee's avatar

If the Bible and the 10 Commandments must be displayed in every Louisiana classroom, then other religions have the right to post their books and their rules in classrooms too. Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and all the religions matter too and are just as " good" as Christianity.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I have got one set of commandments fitting for classrooms "Listen, learn, share".

wreck's avatar

I have a t-shirt:

Be Kind

Tell The Truth

Drink Good Beer

Straw's avatar

I admit that I lie sometimes. Mostly when my mum greets me with "Sister name, so good to see you". Telling her I am not her sister, she died 20 y.a. would be mean.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Make mine Guinness ... or maybe Killian's Red.

Straw's avatar

London Porter for me please.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I like a good porter. Would love to try one some day.

Maltnothops's avatar

I have one that says:

Eat here.

Drink here.

Fauquier.

That last one is the name of a county in Virginia. Pronounced "faw Keer"

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Faux kir ? They make it with water instead of wine ?

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

👍

Though I will pass on the third, unless I van drink it with lemon. Too much sugar.

Dianne Marie Leonard's avatar

The Satanic Temple's principles are pretty good too. Much better than "shut up and sit down",which is what the christian 10 commandments amount to in a classroom.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

My favorite is the one about bodily autonomy.

Dianne Marie Leonard's avatar

Yes, I like that one, too. Back in my pagan days (1970-71, for a few months), people used to encapsulate that as "An ye harm no one, do as thou wilt." Or, to put it more bluntly, stay out of other people's business when it's none of yours. These busybodies (in LA and elsewhere) have yet to learn that grade-school rule.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I know a slightly different version.just right for you "Love as thou wilt".

Hannah Bee's avatar

Listen, learn, share. Very nice! And one more-- think with an open heart and open mind.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It's fitting with the Goddess I worship.

Hannah Bee's avatar

I'm sure She's very nice.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Well, she is less demanding than my Dogesses 😁

Straw's avatar

Of course. But to those people equal treatment is when they decide and everybody have to accept it.

rc4797's avatar

To all the right-wing snowflakes out there. If drag shows upset you and make you cry don’t go to them and don’t watch.

cdbunch's avatar

But watching the drag queens gives a pleasant, tingly feeling down there, that's what they're so upset about. But they can't not watch. They enjoy the sinful feeling too much.

Bagen Onuts's avatar

Jesus says NO TINGLY FEELINGS ALLOWED!!! NO!!! NOT FOR THE OPPOSITE SEX, EITHER!!!

Lynn Veit's avatar

And doesn't the bibble say something about "know thine enemies" or Am I conflating the bibble with another source?

NOGODZ20's avatar

For the Christians among the righties:

Your Jesus tells you to pluck out your eyes if you see anything that offends you. It’s a wonder you’re not all blind by now.

Sean's avatar

Maybe what they should try is putting up some commandments in their own offices. Like, I don't know, say...

Thou shalt not lie

Thou shalt not commit adultery

Love thy neighbor as thyself

Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Maybe try living your religion rather than resorting to performative christianity. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. (Eph 2:8-9)

Of course christians can counter:

You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. (James 2:24)

So, which is it?

cdbunch's avatar

How are they supposed to do their jobs? Govern with compassion and empathy? Might as well turn the country over to Taylor Swift.

Joan the Dork's avatar

Well... legal proceedings would be a lot less snoozeworthy with her in charge, that's for sure.

Len Koz's avatar

Since Taylor Swift appears to at least give two shits about other people, this idea couldn't be worse than what Mango Mussolini and the ReichWing have planned if he takes over in November.

Lynn Veit's avatar

I would wager that she'd do a much better job of it.

Sean's avatar

I know. It's a huge ask. Governing without either is more efficient.

cdbunch's avatar

I wouldn't call what they're doing governing.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Which is it? Either ... or neither. As with so much of the rest of the bible, it is self-contradictory, saying ONE thing in ONE place, and the exact OPPOSITE elsewhere. Steve Wells of the Skeptic's Annotated Bible has documented over 400 such contradictions.

Sean's avatar

It makes cherry-picking much, much easier. That way they're never wrong.

Lynn Veit's avatar

Less Bible crap, more attention to the job they are elected to do...the day to day business of running the country and serving the public's best interest.

Yeah, I know. Very naive of me.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Christian claim: "As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall right above where the Supreme Court judges sit a display of the Ten Commandments."

Refuting that lie: The 'infamous' frieze by sculptor Adolph A. Weinman? "In a letter on file in the archives of the Supreme Court, Adolph Weinman, the designer of this frieze, states that the tablet visible between the two central male figures, engraved with the Roman numerals 1 - X, represents not the Ten Commandments but the first "ten amendments to the Constitution known as the Bill of Rights."

Oops!

Joan the Dork's avatar

Whaaaaat?! Christians 𝘭𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 about things?! What is this, a day ending in Y?!

...𝘰𝘩. Right. Carry on then.

Holytape's avatar

Why let something as trivial and insignificant as the truth ruin a good story?

NOGODZ20's avatar

I should point out that there's plenty more where this came from. I got the info from those myth busters at Snopes (the Christian lies are are highlighted, followed by non-highlighted reality via Snopes)

snopes.com/fact-check/national-capital/

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O/T: BREAKING!! Kamala Harris has just chosen Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her VP running mate!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/06/kamala-harris-vice-president-pick-tim-walz

NOGODZ20's avatar

Troublesh00ter beat you to it 48 minutes ago. :)

OwossoHarpist's avatar

You're right. He did! :)

RegularJoe's avatar

Great minds.....🙃

ArtB3ing's avatar

Imposition of religious laws on impressionable children is NOT RIGHT.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Yeah, it is ... and yet people have been doing that to kids (and to themselves!) literally for millennia.

ArtB3ing's avatar

It is also a violation of our constitutional rights

Die Anyway's avatar

Hemant starts the article with the subheading "These posters are an embarrassment".

I thought the article was going to be about some of us that post comments here and I hoped that I wasn't on the list.

larry parker's avatar

Don't sell yourself short, you're a tremendous embarrassment. - Ty Webb (paraphrase) : )

Bagen Onuts's avatar

I am number 2. I try harder.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Pardon, you forget Holytape, Maltnothops, Sean, Jim Sanders...

cdbunch's avatar

#1 embarrassing commenter has to go to Mr. Graf.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Hors catégorie, he is not voluntarily embarrassing.

Lynn Veit's avatar

I second that motion.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Try too hard and you'll be struck with enrods.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

OT : Bad news. I have a problem with my eyes. I need to do more exams tomorrow. Most probable treatment if confirmed, injections in the eyes. You see the problem ?

Bagen Onuts's avatar

They will probably sedate you and applya topical numbing agent. If it is like cataract SURGERY you won't feel a thing.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It's not the pain the problem. It's seeing the syringe. I can barely stay still when DM inject me my insuline and with my eyes closed.

cdbunch's avatar

If they sedate you, you won't see the needles either. Anymore than I saw them suck out the natural lens, cut a slit and insert the artificial lens when I had cataract surgery.

Bagen Onuts's avatar

I was sedated and saw only a blurry greyish nothing. Several hours later I had some pain in my eye. I was in VA Hoptel so I took the elevator to the ER. They called an eye guy who was at Northwestern U at the time. He came in and said some of the surface had hardened and broke away He removed it and no more pain. Took only seconds to remove it.

MalibuMan's avatar

Trust me, you don't feel anything but a tiny tiny pressure.

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Again, it's not the pain. I have needle phobia. I can't even change my glycemia sensors without help. I can't see, even less touch an insulin pen.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

For what it's worth, best wishes! 🤞

Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Wish me to be blind. It's the only way for me to get injections in my eyes.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I hear you ... and I wish you had a viable alternative.

MalibuMan's avatar

You literally don't feel anything. Easy peazey.

MalibuMan's avatar

I had vitrectomy on both of my eyes because of large amounts of floaters. But now not even a single floater. Hopefully everything goes well for you.

RegularJoe's avatar

OT: Vice President Harris selects Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to be her running mate.

https://apnews.com/live/trump-harris-vp-pick-election-updates

I've met the guy. Smart, competent, capable, experienced, Veteran. I'm pleased with the pick.

Joan the Dork's avatar

News so nice, it's posted thrice! ;)