"There’s also a double standard at play because there’s no version of this for Christian boys."
Of course not. His daughter is completely ignorant about sex and his son has a twisted view of women as things to be used for gratification. Disgusting.
In addition to everything else about Mike Johnson, what I find notable is just how fucking *boring* he is. On every theological, political, and cultural issue, we know exactly what he will do or say. If you could have an AI program create a “generic conservative Southern Baptist Congressman circa 2023” Mike Johnson would be the result.
Yuck. He has also claimed publicly that he and his son keep track of each other’s masturbation habits. This is a deeply disturbed and sick man. Pray to the Universe for the good health of Joe and Kamala.
[The pledge also suggests that their moral worth is tied to their sexual activity. There’s also a double standard at play because there’s no version of this for Christian boys.]
There is. Just not as formal. But they harp on you constantly as a young man to "keep yourself pure". Usually it focuses on porn and masturbation. The double standard happens when you "sin". As a young man, you're given leeway, redemption, and restoration. As a young woman, you become a pariah and damaged goods.
Once again, I find myself surprised at the attention this is getting since it was all pretty normal to me growing up in the white Evangelical church. This is who they are and what they teach. Not all of them, but most of them.
You are expected to deny and hate your humanity. Because God loves you, but he hates your humanity. Sure God made your humanity, but you went and polluted it with "sin" so now he can barely tolerate your existence and wants to burn you alive forever. It's only when he sees His son's blood that he can stomach your pain-free existence and you're welcomed into His house, but he still expects you to change: deny your humanity, adopt the inhumanity of "holiness", feel guilt, shame, and grovel when you act like a human. Rinse, repeat. Until one day, you finally die, and you are completely transformed into a "holy" creature who will have no ties to your former humanity and will be perfectly happy and content watching God consign your former loved ones and friends to Hell.
Fundamentalists are either narcissists or they have adopted (to some degree) and internalized a self-hatred.
I’m sorry, you cannot convince me that these men running evangelical Christianity are not intentionally pushing this purity agenda so they can find easier victims. All purity culture does is keep girls and women in the dark about their bodies, and abilities and more dependent on men who are happily abusing their power over them. And when the lack of knowledge about their bodies causes health problems and death, all the better because now they can find a new victim to abuse. Everything about purity culture is abusive.
Sure, I prefer my children to wait until they’re ready to have sex and face the consequences of it, and probably wait longer than I did. But I am educating them and being open with them about their bodies and sex and everything. My mom never told me crap about the stuff she went through regarding her reproductive health, I wasn’t allowed to talk to my cousins about periods because their moms didn’t want them to know yet (even though she started hers early a few months after I brought it up). I’m looking at menopause with very little information because my mother was generally ashamed to discuss it. I am not doing that to my daughter. The sex ed provided at schools are light on the later stages of reproductive development information and the only real way to learn is by talking to women who are going through it. Hell, my doctors barely give me any information when I ask about it. Am I going through hot flashes? Can the fibroid be masking my symptoms? What are the symptoms beyond simply missing periods? Nothing. My daughter will know more than me, she will know what is coming. She will know what is good and natural versus what is wrong or harmful, health wise and relationship wise. Knowledge is power and purity culture intentionally limits knowledge so men can have more power.
Wasn't it Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol who preached abstinence? Guess what? She got pregnant out of wedlock. Twice. Her words afterward? "Don't judge me!"
Is it any wonder we commonly hear about criminal, sexual deviance among Repug “clergy” and politicians? Is it any wonder southern Repug leaders unapologetically support slavery, the “southern brothel” institution where wives AND slave women were mistreated, exploited and abused? And see what sort of men they support in office: tRump, Matt Gaetz, Gym Jordan, Roy Moore, Clarence Thomas, Herschel Walker, Rudy Giuliani . . . Yeah, yeah, Democrats have their sexual predators, but Dems DON’T SUPPORT ABUSERS IN OFFICE. . . And Dems don’t have a Mass of “Religious” criminals like Repugs keep behind closed doors.
In most cases a politician's religion doesn't matter very much. However, when a politician's judgment had been totally compromised by religion, then their religion becomes a legitimate issue. We are a secular nation, and always have been. Never-the-less the Christian nationalists operate under the delusion they're going to take this country back to what it used to be. Few ideas are more stupid and dangerous than believing a particular religion could be imposed on a country as large and diverse as the United States with a happy ending. Especially so when only 47% of American adults claim any kind of religious affiliation. In addition to being a creep, Johnson is a dangerous fool.
Moses Johnson opposed Roe v Wade and opposes legal abortions, blaming school shootings on "the breakup of the nuclear family." One wonders what he would do if his daughter turned up pregnant, which is a very real scenario due to these 'purity balls.'
Away from this, Mike the Dick also opposes the scientific consensus that climate change is mainly caused by humans. Pay no attention to the fact that he received over $338,000 in donations from the oil and gas industry during his tenure in Congress. Holy Mike rejects the scientific fact of evolution and embraces YEC. He voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He's anti-immigration, even though his own god in his own bible tells followers not to mistreat immigrants and to instead love them and treat them as native-born. He's rabidly anti-LGBTQ and wants to see homosexuality criminalized. He voted twice against legalizing marijuana, opposes raising the minimum wage, hates church-state separation and wants to make cuts in Social Security and Medicare.
In other words, he's a Christian. A Christian who claims to love his god yet hates people. 1 John 4:20 calls believers who say they love their unseen god but hates people they can see liars.
“The nation is in danger as long as Johnson remains a couple of heartbeats away from the presidency—and as long as Republicans control any part of government.”
These purity tests are the reason we have guys like Josh Duggar, who raped his sister for years, and then the family all forgave him, because boys will be boys and sheep; SCARED!
Or the reason we have religious apologists for people like Roy Moore, who was the highest ranking judge on Alabama’s Supreme Court before running for senator; he dated 15 year old girls when he was 35. The apologists, mostly women, telling anyone who would listen that Mary was only 15 when she had Jesus.
I guess a widow is not supposed to remarry since she is not a virgin anymore.
DM made sure I was well informed about sex and contraception. Do you know what happened ? I started a successful porn career at 14 because it's what we girls do when we know how our bodies work. Actually I lost my virginity at 20, I am still happily not married and I regret nothing.
-- Stephen Fry, from the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate
Sadly, it would seem as though the Catholic Church isn't the only one that has an unhealthy obsession with sex. This utter determination to maintain "purity" with teens has long since proven to be not just feasible, but downright disastrous, particularly as regards the issue of teen pregnancy. Mike Johnson seems utterly determined NOT TO LEARN THIS.
And it's far more than likely that his daughter or one or more of the young participants of that "Purity Ball" will pay the price for Johnson's stupidity.
"There’s also a double standard at play because there’s no version of this for Christian boys."
Of course not. His daughter is completely ignorant about sex and his son has a twisted view of women as things to be used for gratification. Disgusting.
In addition to everything else about Mike Johnson, what I find notable is just how fucking *boring* he is. On every theological, political, and cultural issue, we know exactly what he will do or say. If you could have an AI program create a “generic conservative Southern Baptist Congressman circa 2023” Mike Johnson would be the result.
Yuck. He has also claimed publicly that he and his son keep track of each other’s masturbation habits. This is a deeply disturbed and sick man. Pray to the Universe for the good health of Joe and Kamala.
[The pledge also suggests that their moral worth is tied to their sexual activity. There’s also a double standard at play because there’s no version of this for Christian boys.]
There is. Just not as formal. But they harp on you constantly as a young man to "keep yourself pure". Usually it focuses on porn and masturbation. The double standard happens when you "sin". As a young man, you're given leeway, redemption, and restoration. As a young woman, you become a pariah and damaged goods.
Once again, I find myself surprised at the attention this is getting since it was all pretty normal to me growing up in the white Evangelical church. This is who they are and what they teach. Not all of them, but most of them.
You are expected to deny and hate your humanity. Because God loves you, but he hates your humanity. Sure God made your humanity, but you went and polluted it with "sin" so now he can barely tolerate your existence and wants to burn you alive forever. It's only when he sees His son's blood that he can stomach your pain-free existence and you're welcomed into His house, but he still expects you to change: deny your humanity, adopt the inhumanity of "holiness", feel guilt, shame, and grovel when you act like a human. Rinse, repeat. Until one day, you finally die, and you are completely transformed into a "holy" creature who will have no ties to your former humanity and will be perfectly happy and content watching God consign your former loved ones and friends to Hell.
Fundamentalists are either narcissists or they have adopted (to some degree) and internalized a self-hatred.
I’m sorry, you cannot convince me that these men running evangelical Christianity are not intentionally pushing this purity agenda so they can find easier victims. All purity culture does is keep girls and women in the dark about their bodies, and abilities and more dependent on men who are happily abusing their power over them. And when the lack of knowledge about their bodies causes health problems and death, all the better because now they can find a new victim to abuse. Everything about purity culture is abusive.
Sure, I prefer my children to wait until they’re ready to have sex and face the consequences of it, and probably wait longer than I did. But I am educating them and being open with them about their bodies and sex and everything. My mom never told me crap about the stuff she went through regarding her reproductive health, I wasn’t allowed to talk to my cousins about periods because their moms didn’t want them to know yet (even though she started hers early a few months after I brought it up). I’m looking at menopause with very little information because my mother was generally ashamed to discuss it. I am not doing that to my daughter. The sex ed provided at schools are light on the later stages of reproductive development information and the only real way to learn is by talking to women who are going through it. Hell, my doctors barely give me any information when I ask about it. Am I going through hot flashes? Can the fibroid be masking my symptoms? What are the symptoms beyond simply missing periods? Nothing. My daughter will know more than me, she will know what is coming. She will know what is good and natural versus what is wrong or harmful, health wise and relationship wise. Knowledge is power and purity culture intentionally limits knowledge so men can have more power.
Dominionist patriarchy... If we don't vote these creeps back under their wet rocks, we will be living in the Republic of Gilead.
Happy Solstice, everyone!
I've got my "Axial Tilt - It's the Reason for the Season" t-shirt on.
Wasn't it Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol who preached abstinence? Guess what? She got pregnant out of wedlock. Twice. Her words afterward? "Don't judge me!"
So much for 'purity.'
Can there be anything more creepy than pledging your virginity to your DADDY?
Is it any wonder we commonly hear about criminal, sexual deviance among Repug “clergy” and politicians? Is it any wonder southern Repug leaders unapologetically support slavery, the “southern brothel” institution where wives AND slave women were mistreated, exploited and abused? And see what sort of men they support in office: tRump, Matt Gaetz, Gym Jordan, Roy Moore, Clarence Thomas, Herschel Walker, Rudy Giuliani . . . Yeah, yeah, Democrats have their sexual predators, but Dems DON’T SUPPORT ABUSERS IN OFFICE. . . And Dems don’t have a Mass of “Religious” criminals like Repugs keep behind closed doors.
In most cases a politician's religion doesn't matter very much. However, when a politician's judgment had been totally compromised by religion, then their religion becomes a legitimate issue. We are a secular nation, and always have been. Never-the-less the Christian nationalists operate under the delusion they're going to take this country back to what it used to be. Few ideas are more stupid and dangerous than believing a particular religion could be imposed on a country as large and diverse as the United States with a happy ending. Especially so when only 47% of American adults claim any kind of religious affiliation. In addition to being a creep, Johnson is a dangerous fool.
Also, the guy lied about supporting Ukraine, then left town, preventing Ukraine from getting aid it needed yesterday.
Johnson's another running dog of christofascism, a liar and a creepy little sneak.
Moses Johnson opposed Roe v Wade and opposes legal abortions, blaming school shootings on "the breakup of the nuclear family." One wonders what he would do if his daughter turned up pregnant, which is a very real scenario due to these 'purity balls.'
Away from this, Mike the Dick also opposes the scientific consensus that climate change is mainly caused by humans. Pay no attention to the fact that he received over $338,000 in donations from the oil and gas industry during his tenure in Congress. Holy Mike rejects the scientific fact of evolution and embraces YEC. He voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He's anti-immigration, even though his own god in his own bible tells followers not to mistreat immigrants and to instead love them and treat them as native-born. He's rabidly anti-LGBTQ and wants to see homosexuality criminalized. He voted twice against legalizing marijuana, opposes raising the minimum wage, hates church-state separation and wants to make cuts in Social Security and Medicare.
In other words, he's a Christian. A Christian who claims to love his god yet hates people. 1 John 4:20 calls believers who say they love their unseen god but hates people they can see liars.
“The nation is in danger as long as Johnson remains a couple of heartbeats away from the presidency—and as long as Republicans control any part of government.”
These purity tests are the reason we have guys like Josh Duggar, who raped his sister for years, and then the family all forgave him, because boys will be boys and sheep; SCARED!
Or the reason we have religious apologists for people like Roy Moore, who was the highest ranking judge on Alabama’s Supreme Court before running for senator; he dated 15 year old girls when he was 35. The apologists, mostly women, telling anyone who would listen that Mary was only 15 when she had Jesus.
Enough said!...:)
I guess a widow is not supposed to remarry since she is not a virgin anymore.
DM made sure I was well informed about sex and contraception. Do you know what happened ? I started a successful porn career at 14 because it's what we girls do when we know how our bodies work. Actually I lost my virginity at 20, I am still happily not married and I regret nothing.
𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ - 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑠𝑒𝑥, 𝑎𝑏𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑. 𝑁𝑜𝑤, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑠𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑒, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑟𝑢𝑑𝑒 𝑗𝑜𝑘𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑. 𝑁𝑜. 𝑊𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ𝑦 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒. 𝑊𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑓𝑢𝑛, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑗𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑦; 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑢𝑙𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑘 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡. 𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 𝑏𝑖𝑡 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡, 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑓𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑥𝑖𝑐𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑏𝑖𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑜𝑏𝑒𝑠𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑒𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝐶ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑛𝑢𝑡𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑙.
-- Stephen Fry, from the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate
Sadly, it would seem as though the Catholic Church isn't the only one that has an unhealthy obsession with sex. This utter determination to maintain "purity" with teens has long since proven to be not just feasible, but downright disastrous, particularly as regards the issue of teen pregnancy. Mike Johnson seems utterly determined NOT TO LEARN THIS.
And it's far more than likely that his daughter or one or more of the young participants of that "Purity Ball" will pay the price for Johnson's stupidity.