Funny thing. Guys like Owens want to claim that Democrats are banning the bible when we're not, yet they ALSO want to ban books and ideas and concepts that THEY can't deal with. Frankly the hypocrisy is so blatant, it's astonishing.
Of course, I suspect what Owens and his ilk really want to do is make the bible the ONLY reference in public schools, while making all the other books subject to censorship, if not banning. I just hope he gets blowback up the ying-yang for his bullshit.
I was in high school in 1963. Our school library always had a copy of the Bible. I never saw anyone reading it, but it was there. Conservative Christians can never stop playing the poor, persecuted victims. In spite of their complaints, there is no group who would be more inclined to persecute others if given the chance.
“Tenets based on the belief that, with God in time, we can truly become a more perfect union.”
Oh so, god is mentioned as how we form a more perfect union?
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
I’m not seeing it. I see the people looking to form a more perfect union. I see the people establishing the constitution, which is focused on justice, tranquility, defense, general welfare, and liberty in order to accomplish the goal of a more perfect union. Nowhere do I see god mentioned. I see blessings, but it is in reference to liberty and nothing about god supports liberty, so I’m guessing the authors of the constitution weren’t really thinking of him.
Let’s see, are there any references to god in the constitution? You know, to use him to create this more perfect union. I do see where the authors distinctly chose to exclude religion specifically from the workings of the government.
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Oh, look at that, no religious test. No religion. Hmm, if there’s to be no religious test, how would god help create this more perfect union?
“Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”
Oops, more rejection of religion.
Sorry pal, the tenets our country were built upon had no reliance on god, just the people of the country working together. Something your god loves to interfere with as referenced in your precious bible, that’s was never banned.
"the golden rule which says we should treat others the way we want to be treated."
Oh ? Does he respect women's rights to contraception and abortion ? Does he support LGBTQI+ rights to live a peaceful life ?
About the 1963 babble banning from chools, did anyone pay attention to the year ? Congressman owens found a lead for JFK's assassination. He was killed by a child who wanted his daily indoctrination back 😁
Oh, my poor Congressman Owens, do you really want to know what was one of the foundations of this country? It was a major economic and social institution of our country for the first four score and seven years. Over four million Americans were involved with it at its height, and even today there are numerous monuments dedicated to its strongest proponents. It wasn't the bible, but endorsements of it were found in throughout the book. You might be a bit disappointed.
"...the Ten Commandments, among these, thou shall not steal, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall honor thy father and mother."
I noticed that he didn't list "thou shalt not bear false witness".
Not only is the Bible not banned in Iowa schools, it's actually *exempted* - by name - from our state's school book banning law. The Torah and Qur'an are also named in the law.
280.6 Religious books.
Religious books such as the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran shall not be excluded from any
public school or institution in the state, nor shall any child be required to read such religious
books contrary to the wishes of the child’s parent or guardian.
I had a bit of fun on Quora this morning. It seems the religionists have decided to criticize the "morality" of atheists, since we have no Big Book of God and Morality to draw from. Israelis bombing a hospital. Palestinians raping and murdering hostages. Wanna talk about a way to happiness? They don't seem real happy over there, despite their Big Books. Meanwhile, atheists aren't committing atrocities in the name of nothing. It takes a god to fuel that sort of behavior.
Anyone want to inform the congressman that good Christians used to use the book he holds so dear as a justification to enslave people of his skin color? Those same Christians even started a war to hold onto an institution that people could use to buy/sell/own other people.
I remain gobsmacked that any POC either supports or subscribes to the book and religion of their oppressors.
The bible not available in schools? Oh my, that just leaves all the xtian houses of worship (in a country where Christianity is by far the dominant religion and there are more churches than schools or hospitals). Not available in schools? That just leaves all those Christian homes. Not available in schools? Guess Sunday school must've vanished across the country, eh?
*sigh* Christians never listen to themselves, no matter how stupid they sound.
Why is it so fucking hard to just practice your religion and teach it to your own children in your home? Is it really that hard? I don't think it is. I know many Christians who do it. I suppose statistically, they could be the outliers and somehow they're all in one pocket of the country, but I doubt it.
So why must you narcissistically force your beliefs onto everybody? What's really so fucking hard about just reading your book, praying, practicing your other tenets, and just not being an asshole about it who wants to use the State's monopoly on violence to force it on other people who are perfectly happy with their own faith or no faith?
Funny thing. Guys like Owens want to claim that Democrats are banning the bible when we're not, yet they ALSO want to ban books and ideas and concepts that THEY can't deal with. Frankly the hypocrisy is so blatant, it's astonishing.
Of course, I suspect what Owens and his ilk really want to do is make the bible the ONLY reference in public schools, while making all the other books subject to censorship, if not banning. I just hope he gets blowback up the ying-yang for his bullshit.
"We instead find the greatest disdain for these laws wherever Democrats rule…"
Most democrats are christian and in the halls of government the percentage is even higher.
I was in high school in 1963. Our school library always had a copy of the Bible. I never saw anyone reading it, but it was there. Conservative Christians can never stop playing the poor, persecuted victims. In spite of their complaints, there is no group who would be more inclined to persecute others if given the chance.
𝑂𝑤𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑔𝑢𝑒𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 “𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑝ℎ𝑖𝑐, 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑙𝑖𝑏𝑟𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑠.”
And he wants to keep the bible? Has he read the thing?
Of course, we all know that "graphic, explicit content" is their code for "acknowledging the existence of LGBTQ people"
OT: What's it called when you do the same thing over and over again and expect different results?
(Jordon loses again.)
“Tenets based on the belief that, with God in time, we can truly become a more perfect union.”
Oh so, god is mentioned as how we form a more perfect union?
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
I’m not seeing it. I see the people looking to form a more perfect union. I see the people establishing the constitution, which is focused on justice, tranquility, defense, general welfare, and liberty in order to accomplish the goal of a more perfect union. Nowhere do I see god mentioned. I see blessings, but it is in reference to liberty and nothing about god supports liberty, so I’m guessing the authors of the constitution weren’t really thinking of him.
Let’s see, are there any references to god in the constitution? You know, to use him to create this more perfect union. I do see where the authors distinctly chose to exclude religion specifically from the workings of the government.
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Oh, look at that, no religious test. No religion. Hmm, if there’s to be no religious test, how would god help create this more perfect union?
“Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”
Oops, more rejection of religion.
Sorry pal, the tenets our country were built upon had no reliance on god, just the people of the country working together. Something your god loves to interfere with as referenced in your precious bible, that’s was never banned.
"the golden rule which says we should treat others the way we want to be treated."
Oh ? Does he respect women's rights to contraception and abortion ? Does he support LGBTQI+ rights to live a peaceful life ?
About the 1963 babble banning from chools, did anyone pay attention to the year ? Congressman owens found a lead for JFK's assassination. He was killed by a child who wanted his daily indoctrination back 😁
PS : for the people who would want to read about a more interesting Burgess. Enjoy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale
Oh, my poor Congressman Owens, do you really want to know what was one of the foundations of this country? It was a major economic and social institution of our country for the first four score and seven years. Over four million Americans were involved with it at its height, and even today there are numerous monuments dedicated to its strongest proponents. It wasn't the bible, but endorsements of it were found in throughout the book. You might be a bit disappointed.
"...the Ten Commandments, among these, thou shall not steal, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall honor thy father and mother."
I noticed that he didn't list "thou shalt not bear false witness".
It appears that God isn't sending its best.
Not only is the Bible not banned in Iowa schools, it's actually *exempted* - by name - from our state's school book banning law. The Torah and Qur'an are also named in the law.
280.6 Religious books.
Religious books such as the Bible, the Torah, and the Koran shall not be excluded from any public school or institution in the state, nor shall any child be required to read such religious books contrary to the wishes of the child’s parent or guardian.
I had a bit of fun on Quora this morning. It seems the religionists have decided to criticize the "morality" of atheists, since we have no Big Book of God and Morality to draw from. Israelis bombing a hospital. Palestinians raping and murdering hostages. Wanna talk about a way to happiness? They don't seem real happy over there, despite their Big Books. Meanwhile, atheists aren't committing atrocities in the name of nothing. It takes a god to fuel that sort of behavior.
Anyone want to inform the congressman that good Christians used to use the book he holds so dear as a justification to enslave people of his skin color? Those same Christians even started a war to hold onto an institution that people could use to buy/sell/own other people.
I remain gobsmacked that any POC either supports or subscribes to the book and religion of their oppressors.
Find one? How do you keep people from shoving them at you?
The bible not available in schools? Oh my, that just leaves all the xtian houses of worship (in a country where Christianity is by far the dominant religion and there are more churches than schools or hospitals). Not available in schools? That just leaves all those Christian homes. Not available in schools? Guess Sunday school must've vanished across the country, eh?
*sigh* Christians never listen to themselves, no matter how stupid they sound.
Why is it so fucking hard to just practice your religion and teach it to your own children in your home? Is it really that hard? I don't think it is. I know many Christians who do it. I suppose statistically, they could be the outliers and somehow they're all in one pocket of the country, but I doubt it.
So why must you narcissistically force your beliefs onto everybody? What's really so fucking hard about just reading your book, praying, practicing your other tenets, and just not being an asshole about it who wants to use the State's monopoly on violence to force it on other people who are perfectly happy with their own faith or no faith?