Great idea! After the next school shooting the chaplain will be able to dispense officially sanctioned thoughts and prayers right on the scene. Brilliant!
Conservative Christians tend to see their religion as the solution to every problem, and do so while ignoring their own history. Do they think all the horrors perpetrated by Christians in the name of Christianity didn't actually happen? Do they think it will be different this time? There are far too many people who have deluded themselves into believing if they just hang the word Christian on something it has instant credibility. If kids want to talk to a member of the clergy, why can't they do so in church?
Inevitably these FL shamans will prescribe a regimen of daily fifteen minutes of exorcise for all students. Followed by a cool down period of shake, rattle, and roll.
“I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll;
You Never Do Nothin'
To Save Your Doggone Soul.” - Bill Halley & His Comets, ‘Shake, Rattle and Roll’
It does happen, however it’s less likely to be harmful advice, or will be less likely to happen than if it came from Joe Schmoe ordained chaplain from the Church of Perpetual Profits, with a PhD from the school of Hard Knocks. Many Christian sects have zero requirements for education to become a preacher/pastor/minister/clergy, they just say things like “God called me and I answered.” What will they know about providing counseling to angsty teens in crisis. Many of their own children are abused, or rebelling because their go to source material has no bearing whatsoever with reality, let alone modern life. It sets up children to become victims, constantly telling followers not to think, not to question authorities, not to trust their own gut feelings, and certainly not to be educated. And that’s before you get into the whole child bride, child molesting, look the other way, ignore, excuse, celebrate confessions of whitewashed versions of what happened, and never ever do anything that would make authorities aware these people are not trustworthy around children. Background checks, forsooth.
What, again? And Florida, of course. Here's something else, too: it's likely that NO ONE promoting this travesty of a bill will tell you that the chaplains who would take on this responsibility are UNTRAINED. My guess is that the very fact that they are chaplains – men and women of the cloth – is supposed to seem to be sufficient qualification for the children of the Sunshine State. [insert facepalm!]
Once again, I'm hoping that there are enough aware parents in Florida who hear this and respond as they damned well should: with anger and outrage and a desire to act against this blunt stupidity. One can only hope...
Pardon me, I made a grab for my temper, and apparently, I missed.
I do not appreciate the way these bills are painting targets on the backs of children for the purpose of impressing a gullible base. Churches have never been required to report crimes against children in their care, and now you want to put these same abusers in schools as well? You'll have MORE school shootings, not less. The staggering level of reality denial here borders on mental illness. I wish there were a way to make these lawmakers actually live in the sort of school environment they're creating for kids, somehow that seems like it would at least be fair(ish).
Great idea! After the next school shooting the chaplain will be able to dispense officially sanctioned thoughts and prayers right on the scene. Brilliant!
So a Jewish kid with problems will go to see this counselor and be told that his issues are purely because he's a "Christ-killing heathen," I suppose.
Conservative Christians tend to see their religion as the solution to every problem, and do so while ignoring their own history. Do they think all the horrors perpetrated by Christians in the name of Christianity didn't actually happen? Do they think it will be different this time? There are far too many people who have deluded themselves into believing if they just hang the word Christian on something it has instant credibility. If kids want to talk to a member of the clergy, why can't they do so in church?
Inevitably these FL shamans will prescribe a regimen of daily fifteen minutes of exorcise for all students. Followed by a cool down period of shake, rattle, and roll.
“I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll,
I Said Shake Rattle And Roll;
You Never Do Nothin'
To Save Your Doggone Soul.” - Bill Halley & His Comets, ‘Shake, Rattle and Roll’
“𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑑𝑣𝑖𝑐𝑒 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑎 𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑜𝑟?”
It does happen, however it’s less likely to be harmful advice, or will be less likely to happen than if it came from Joe Schmoe ordained chaplain from the Church of Perpetual Profits, with a PhD from the school of Hard Knocks. Many Christian sects have zero requirements for education to become a preacher/pastor/minister/clergy, they just say things like “God called me and I answered.” What will they know about providing counseling to angsty teens in crisis. Many of their own children are abused, or rebelling because their go to source material has no bearing whatsoever with reality, let alone modern life. It sets up children to become victims, constantly telling followers not to think, not to question authorities, not to trust their own gut feelings, and certainly not to be educated. And that’s before you get into the whole child bride, child molesting, look the other way, ignore, excuse, celebrate confessions of whitewashed versions of what happened, and never ever do anything that would make authorities aware these people are not trustworthy around children. Background checks, forsooth.
What could possibly go wrong?
"It's very simple, little Billy. It's all evolution's fault."
"The world is flat, everyone is depraved, take two goats and call me in the morning."
“What happens when our children receive the wrong advice from a mental health counselor?”
What are the odds she thinks that "wrong advice" is that it is ok for a trans kid to be trans?
And the pogrom against LGBT teenagers continues. That's not even an extra benefit for these murderous assholes. It's a core goal.
When they start using the word "alternative" to describe something, you know it's both cockamamie and ineffective.
What, again? And Florida, of course. Here's something else, too: it's likely that NO ONE promoting this travesty of a bill will tell you that the chaplains who would take on this responsibility are UNTRAINED. My guess is that the very fact that they are chaplains – men and women of the cloth – is supposed to seem to be sufficient qualification for the children of the Sunshine State. [insert facepalm!]
Once again, I'm hoping that there are enough aware parents in Florida who hear this and respond as they damned well should: with anger and outrage and a desire to act against this blunt stupidity. One can only hope...
Pardon me, I made a grab for my temper, and apparently, I missed.
I do not appreciate the way these bills are painting targets on the backs of children for the purpose of impressing a gullible base. Churches have never been required to report crimes against children in their care, and now you want to put these same abusers in schools as well? You'll have MORE school shootings, not less. The staggering level of reality denial here borders on mental illness. I wish there were a way to make these lawmakers actually live in the sort of school environment they're creating for kids, somehow that seems like it would at least be fair(ish).
Here's an interesting thought...
1. Volunteer counselors made mandatory reporters.
2. Chaplain becomes volunteer counselor.
3. Kid goes to school counselor, complains of child abuse at the chaplain's home church.
4. Chaplain must now legally report such abuse to authorities or be held criminally liable.
->End of 'seal of confession' defense for chaplains volunteering in schools.
->Chaplains ordered by their parishes/bishops NOT to volunteer as school counselors.
The lawmakers must really want those lawsuits that will come from this.
I’m a member of the clergy in the Universal Life Church. Maybe I’ll volunteer as a chaplain.
I also have a Doctorate of Divinity that I got online by answering a couple of questions and paying two dollars.
Only a matter of time before some Republican or another pitches the idea of allowing graduation from a seminary as a teaching qualification.