They sure love to take secular stuff and turn it Christian, by making it shittier.
Classic Learning Test, christ, can’t they come up with a better name. Trying to play up the classic as though all old ways are better than now. Is is better to drive a horse drawn carriage or a car? Classic is not always better, but I guess it’s their way of pretending they’re actually conservatives and not the far right reactionary extremists they are.
Also, CLT? Really? Did they not show this to a teenager to see if they’d giggle? Fuck these people are stupid, and their test proves it.
Really. Will they read Bertrand Russell, too, perhaps Robert Green Ingersoll. In Ron DeSantis' Florida, that'll happen about the same time pigs fly without benefit of Airbus, Boeing, or Cessna. The CLT would be laughable if it weren't so blatantly obvious in its purpose. It's good to see that those with some actual expertise in the business of student testing have called out the CLT for its problems. Sadly, it is far more than likely that DeSantis will push it through regardless, likely wasting taxpayer dollars on court challenges in the process.
This is a brand of stupidity the Sunshine State could do without, yet it will in all probability do WITH it.
OT: Just heard this from Keith Olbermann: Judge Aileen Cannon (Trump appointee) has dropped the hammer on Trump's desire to study classified material. Trump HAS to do so in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility), and she WON'T allow Trump to reinstall a SCIF at Mar-a-Lago! Not sure I believe my ears on this one!
Florida wants to prioritize White Christian Nationalism in college admissions. Why am I not surprised? Sea level rise in Florida isn't just from global warming, it is also from the excessive urine when the fundies get territorial.
So, how can an admissions committee compare a student with 1600 on the SAT or a composit score of 36 on the ACT to a student with the highest CLT score? Both the SAT and the ACT are meant to show not just skills , but depth of preparation… I think top students are going to go to another state. Who wants a degree from a state university undergoing a ‘brain drain’ and now is admitting students based on their ability to argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The MAGAts are truly destroying public education in Florida.
I had a real problem with the SAT some 45 years ago when I was going to graduate school again for my third useless degree. I have degrees in three fields, was a straight a student in high school college and graduate school, except for two classes where I gota B, and one class where I got the only D I ever received because the teacher positively hated me, and make that clear long before I even took his class. Because of that teacher, I decided not to try to get a doctorate in sociology. It was a very good decision.
So I'm not a stupid guy, but I still had some problems with the test – not enough to keep me out of grad school, but enough to understand that I didn't know everything..
Downgrading from SAT to CLT doesn't sound like a very good idea to me. All that's going to do is ensure that the next generation of scholars or less competent, which is probably the goal.
I took both the ACT and the SAT and scored well on both (the second time when I studied the English portions) I might have gotten letters of recommendation, but I almost certainly would have blown an interview. My issues with college weren't really the academics (except in a few cases), but a tendency to skip class because I was bored most of the time, an problem learning from lectures as opposed to textbooks, taking on too many heavy classes in my major at the same time, and a shyness that caused me to not participate in larger classes (over about 10 students unless I felt really comfortable with the instructor). That and the fact I couldn't balance work and school and work always won. That's why I graduated with only slightly over a 2.0.
OT: out of town and out of state Catholic crazies show up in my town to protest treating trans students with dignity and common courtesy. One might even say, “do unto others as you wish to be done unto yourself”.
I just spent most of my morning and part of my afternoon writing on Kant's Categorical Imperative for my ethics class. I'm tired, annoyed, and honestly feel like half my issue with the class is that it wasn't taught far, FAR earlier; and now....now I'm seeing that Republicans want to continue their long-standing plan to destroy as much education as they possibly can.
I've told Tinker this many times. I'm disappointed in way we've allowed education to become the battleground for politics. I'm sick of hearing about failing schools, and vouchers should never have happened in the first place. I've had enough of the fear mongering, the deliberate lies and deceit, the grandstanding, and the gutting of teacher pay for the sake of the pet project du jour. I'm trying to get some education now-approximately 25 years too late-because I bought into some of this crap when I was younger.
I don't want younger people following my example. I want younger folks to get a better education while it'll do them some good; I want them to have an easier time than I did. Sure, some of my problems were my fault, but the system failed me, too; it convinced me that I wouldn't need education for a variety of BS reasons I didn't understand weren't true for years. In effect, I had to climb out of the hole I'd be put in before I could understand the importance. Yes, I have something of an axe to grind with the Republican party over this. I would not see the future generations having to put up with the same things I had to just to get an education.
I may not have kids, but this 'destroy the pubic schools' attitude has 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙜𝙤.
Hobbling their children's education is just making Florida one giant Christian school - eventually the entire state, excepting the retirees moving there or the washed ashore refugees, will be Costco Welcomeers. I love you
They sure love to take secular stuff and turn it Christian, by making it shittier.
Classic Learning Test, christ, can’t they come up with a better name. Trying to play up the classic as though all old ways are better than now. Is is better to drive a horse drawn carriage or a car? Classic is not always better, but I guess it’s their way of pretending they’re actually conservatives and not the far right reactionary extremists they are.
Also, CLT? Really? Did they not show this to a teenager to see if they’d giggle? Fuck these people are stupid, and their test proves it.
“𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑏𝑜𝑡ℎ 𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦’𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐾𝑎𝑟𝑙 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑥 𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑠 𝐴𝑑𝑎𝑚 𝑆𝑚𝑖𝑡ℎ,” 𝐵𝑜𝑦𝑒𝑠 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑.
Really. Will they read Bertrand Russell, too, perhaps Robert Green Ingersoll. In Ron DeSantis' Florida, that'll happen about the same time pigs fly without benefit of Airbus, Boeing, or Cessna. The CLT would be laughable if it weren't so blatantly obvious in its purpose. It's good to see that those with some actual expertise in the business of student testing have called out the CLT for its problems. Sadly, it is far more than likely that DeSantis will push it through regardless, likely wasting taxpayer dollars on court challenges in the process.
This is a brand of stupidity the Sunshine State could do without, yet it will in all probability do WITH it.
OT: Just heard this from Keith Olbermann: Judge Aileen Cannon (Trump appointee) has dropped the hammer on Trump's desire to study classified material. Trump HAS to do so in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility), and she WON'T allow Trump to reinstall a SCIF at Mar-a-Lago! Not sure I believe my ears on this one!
Edit: CONFIRMED, via Yahoo News and Newsweek
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-judge-aileen-cannon-places-some-limits-on-trumps-ability-to-discuss-classified-documents-at-issue-in-federal-case-190143119.html
Florida wants to prioritize White Christian Nationalism in college admissions. Why am I not surprised? Sea level rise in Florida isn't just from global warming, it is also from the excessive urine when the fundies get territorial.
So, how can an admissions committee compare a student with 1600 on the SAT or a composit score of 36 on the ACT to a student with the highest CLT score? Both the SAT and the ACT are meant to show not just skills , but depth of preparation… I think top students are going to go to another state. Who wants a degree from a state university undergoing a ‘brain drain’ and now is admitting students based on their ability to argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The MAGAts are truly destroying public education in Florida.
I had a real problem with the SAT some 45 years ago when I was going to graduate school again for my third useless degree. I have degrees in three fields, was a straight a student in high school college and graduate school, except for two classes where I gota B, and one class where I got the only D I ever received because the teacher positively hated me, and make that clear long before I even took his class. Because of that teacher, I decided not to try to get a doctorate in sociology. It was a very good decision.
So I'm not a stupid guy, but I still had some problems with the test – not enough to keep me out of grad school, but enough to understand that I didn't know everything..
Downgrading from SAT to CLT doesn't sound like a very good idea to me. All that's going to do is ensure that the next generation of scholars or less competent, which is probably the goal.
I took both the ACT and the SAT and scored well on both (the second time when I studied the English portions) I might have gotten letters of recommendation, but I almost certainly would have blown an interview. My issues with college weren't really the academics (except in a few cases), but a tendency to skip class because I was bored most of the time, an problem learning from lectures as opposed to textbooks, taking on too many heavy classes in my major at the same time, and a shyness that caused me to not participate in larger classes (over about 10 students unless I felt really comfortable with the instructor). That and the fact I couldn't balance work and school and work always won. That's why I graduated with only slightly over a 2.0.
Question: 1+1+1 = ?
Answer: 1
Question: Who founded America?
Answer: Jesus.
Question: Who is responsible for all freedoms?
Answer: Jesus.
Question: Who freed the slaves?
Answer: What slaves? There was only free market labor.
I haz an idea. Put contradictory passages from religious texts in the test and ask test takers which is correct.
OT: out of town and out of state Catholic crazies show up in my town to protest treating trans students with dignity and common courtesy. One might even say, “do unto others as you wish to be done unto yourself”.
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/education/learning_and_programs/groups-clash-over-fcps-gender-policy-outside-school-board-meeting/article_188cdd3b-684e-55f2-9015-6c827b44fda7.html
Fortunately, our school board has only 1 knuckle-dragger.
I wish I could honestly claim surprise.
I just spent most of my morning and part of my afternoon writing on Kant's Categorical Imperative for my ethics class. I'm tired, annoyed, and honestly feel like half my issue with the class is that it wasn't taught far, FAR earlier; and now....now I'm seeing that Republicans want to continue their long-standing plan to destroy as much education as they possibly can.
I've told Tinker this many times. I'm disappointed in way we've allowed education to become the battleground for politics. I'm sick of hearing about failing schools, and vouchers should never have happened in the first place. I've had enough of the fear mongering, the deliberate lies and deceit, the grandstanding, and the gutting of teacher pay for the sake of the pet project du jour. I'm trying to get some education now-approximately 25 years too late-because I bought into some of this crap when I was younger.
I don't want younger people following my example. I want younger folks to get a better education while it'll do them some good; I want them to have an easier time than I did. Sure, some of my problems were my fault, but the system failed me, too; it convinced me that I wouldn't need education for a variety of BS reasons I didn't understand weren't true for years. In effect, I had to climb out of the hole I'd be put in before I could understand the importance. Yes, I have something of an axe to grind with the Republican party over this. I would not see the future generations having to put up with the same things I had to just to get an education.
I may not have kids, but this 'destroy the pubic schools' attitude has 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙜𝙤.
OT: Everybody's favorite county clerk, dear dear Kim Davis, has encountered still another bout of horrible anti-christian persecution. To the tune of a hundred grand. (And ain't it just lovely?) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/14/kim-davis-damages-same-sex-marriage-license-kentucky
Given what climate change is going to do to Florida (average elevation: 100 feet above sea level), a more pertinent test would be of swimming ability.
Nothing demonstrates confidence in the inherent superiority of your own culture like refusing to teach people about anyone else's.
Hobbling their children's education is just making Florida one giant Christian school - eventually the entire state, excepting the retirees moving there or the washed ashore refugees, will be Costco Welcomeers. I love you
I applied to 4 colleges. The only things I had to submit were a letter about my choice and my baccalauréat (high school diploma) results.