Come, now. Those laws are strictly for earthly businesses and institutions. Divinely inspired, heavenly, angel-imbued, things like churches, that shit "grace" instead of excrement, get all the passes they want. If the day ever comes when you see a religious leader in a striped suit, behind bars, it will be a sure sign we're in the End Times.
There was one religious leader in a fancy set of duds who not only went to prison, but died there.
Pastor Tony Alamo, late of Tony Alamo Ministries. He died while serving a 175-year prison sentence for child molestation. A big advocate of TAM? None other than Jack Chick hisself. Also late. Chick Publications is still doing business with TAM, to the best of my knowledge.
"That cover-up allowed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to withhold from members the fact that it has been stockpiling over $100,000,000,000 in donations meant to go to charity."
My first thought was 'that's a lot of zeros there'. My second thought was 'well, not really a shock, the Mormon church is rolling in it.'
Honestly, I think I'm more surprised that the Mormon church is being fined at all over this than anything else. Usually, they find a way to sweep this under the rug and pretend they haven't done anything wrong; I honestly expected them to find a way to squirm out of this. Again. And yes, I fully expect to see this happen again, too.
Seriously? A LOUSY $1 million fine in the face of a Mormon war chest worth over $100 billion? Once again, I have to ask: just WHEN is the federal government going to take the kid gloves off and deal with religion in general and the LDS Church in particular in the fashion they deserve?
Because this whole situation is LUDICROUS ... and anyone with a brain knows it.
Fines are nothing but a "got caught tax" for an entity as wealthy as the Mormon Church. It won't even impair funding for covering up all their other crimes.
If fines are meant to serve a punitive role, then fines should be based on a percentage of the offender's net worth- the more you own, the more you owe.
The Mormons may not be 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 as crooked as the Roman Catholic Church- after all, the Catholics have a fair few centuries of thieving experience on them- but damned if they won't do their dead level best to catch up!
House Speaker and noted spinally-deficient nitwit Craven McCarthy has decided to grant exclusive access to security footage from the Capitol Insurrection to... 𝘛𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘳 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘴𝘰𝘯. No other media outlets- 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 Fox, and 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 the guy who's already released a feature-length, bullshit-soaked propaganda piece about the event. This is your Congress on GQP, kids.
They're prepping for round 2 after the public repudiates the Mango Madman in 2024. And I'll bet this time the kooks will be coming armed with their AR-15s.
The members have been brainwashed into believing that that money, the billions and billions, is going to lead to something big charity wise. But it will only be hoarded by the church and the highest ranking people in the grift. If any religion is a MLM, the LDS is. Maybe Scientology is on par. But I still think they all are, especially if they evangelize.
All religions are con jobs. Mormonism and Scientology are more obvious because we know the history of the con men who started them. But every religion is about keeping the grift going, every one is funded by the followers, not the deity.
"It would be nice if more Mormons were outraged by their own religious leaders lying to them, but if they haven’t been upset to this point, there’s no reason to believe they’ll come to their senses now."
The sense of smell is the sense of change, so if a stench increases slowly enough, people don't notice it. One hundred billion dollars of ROT can stink to high heaven, or at least to the top of the stratosphere, but apparently from gradual exposure, Mormons' olfactory nerves are oblivious to a fetid miasma that would cause choking and vomiting if it wafted over people all at once.
Maybe the younger members' noses aren't quite as desensitized, and they'll seek fresh air outside the temple.
I work in the financial industry. I have various licenses and certifications that all require continuing ed every year or two on ethics. These courses always include examples of companies paying whopping fines for violating rules. I don’t understand why the fines in this case are so paltry. The SEC should nail their hides to the wall.
Mormons: apparently the second wealthiest grift-ligious organization, just behind the RCC.
They are a lot newer – so I guess they try harder.
Hiding money through illegal means?
What happened to "Obey all earthly laws and authorities," Mor(m)ons?
Come, now. Those laws are strictly for earthly businesses and institutions. Divinely inspired, heavenly, angel-imbued, things like churches, that shit "grace" instead of excrement, get all the passes they want. If the day ever comes when you see a religious leader in a striped suit, behind bars, it will be a sure sign we're in the End Times.
There was one religious leader in a fancy set of duds who not only went to prison, but died there.
Pastor Tony Alamo, late of Tony Alamo Ministries. He died while serving a 175-year prison sentence for child molestation. A big advocate of TAM? None other than Jack Chick hisself. Also late. Chick Publications is still doing business with TAM, to the best of my knowledge.
The code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
Oh come on, Nogodz! That is just in "Paul'''s letter to the Romans.
That is not in the further testament to Jesus Christ that I have thrown away in several Marriott Hotel rooms.
The Book of Mormon. What Mark Twain called "Chloroform in print."
There was a Book of Mormon--but no Bible--in my hotel room a few weeks ago. In Santa Clara, CA. Bizarre. It's now behind the (immovable) dresser.
"That cover-up allowed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to withhold from members the fact that it has been stockpiling over $100,000,000,000 in donations meant to go to charity."
Charité bien ordonnée commence par soi-même s/
That's what happens when your accountants use seer stones and a top hat to do your books.
"The Church’s senior leadership received and relied upon legal counsel when it approved of the use of the external companies to make the filings."
The law firm of Dewy, Cheatam, and Howe.
Or Slipp, Tripp and Skipp.
My first thought was 'that's a lot of zeros there'. My second thought was 'well, not really a shock, the Mormon church is rolling in it.'
Honestly, I think I'm more surprised that the Mormon church is being fined at all over this than anything else. Usually, they find a way to sweep this under the rug and pretend they haven't done anything wrong; I honestly expected them to find a way to squirm out of this. Again. And yes, I fully expect to see this happen again, too.
Shouldn't the fine be $10,000,000,000? A tithe might really get their attention.
Persecution!
𝗝𝗨𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗖𝗘!!!
Seriously? A LOUSY $1 million fine in the face of a Mormon war chest worth over $100 billion? Once again, I have to ask: just WHEN is the federal government going to take the kid gloves off and deal with religion in general and the LDS Church in particular in the fashion they deserve?
Because this whole situation is LUDICROUS ... and anyone with a brain knows it.
Fines are nothing but a "got caught tax" for an entity as wealthy as the Mormon Church. It won't even impair funding for covering up all their other crimes.
Of course they are. What needs to happen is to have said fines upped a bit ... say, by three orders of magnitude?
If fines are meant to serve a punitive role, then fines should be based on a percentage of the offender's net worth- the more you own, the more you owe.
I always say it's better to have the fines be in large multiples of the crime.
For example, the punishment for bribery SHOULD be about 4-5 times the value of the bribe.
The gullible follow blindly.
The truly gullible ones refuse to see what is in front of their faces. My sister among them.
The Mormons may not be 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 as crooked as the Roman Catholic Church- after all, the Catholics have a fair few centuries of thieving experience on them- but damned if they won't do their dead level best to catch up!
We seem to have our edit window back. A website that actually listens to its users. Gosh, Toto, we're not in OnlySky anymore!
I don't. I see the three dots for others, but those are to "Report comment." My 3 dots disappear after 5 and a half minutes.
Morons. Had to say it.
These are just people of the land, the common clay of the West.
You say clay, I would use sewers mud.
It's a movie quote from "Blazing Saddles".
They didn't have actual sewers in the Old West.: )
The starship A.S.F. Willful Child has sewer catacombs for back up.
https://steven-erikson.org/willful-child/
Sounds like a comedic take on John Scalzi's Old Man's War series of books.
Star Trek
I will stick to the "Malazan books of the fallen" 🤔
I haven't gotten to those yet, but I did enjoy 𝑇𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝐵𝑎𝑢𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐾𝑜𝑟𝑏𝑎𝑙 𝐵𝑟𝑜𝑎𝑐ℎ.
Never heard about it.
NOGODZ 😝
You've never seen "Blazing Saddles?" Oh, you poor deprived child. :)
You are currently in the Asian historical section. The western movies section is in DM's bedroom 😁
OT- Well, if anybody wasn't clear on how much damage Republicans could do with a narrow House majority, even though they don't hold the Senate or the Presidency... here's a taste: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-investigation-mccarthy-tucker-carlson-7d302bd512c950f28cd50df4f5d4703a
House Speaker and noted spinally-deficient nitwit Craven McCarthy has decided to grant exclusive access to security footage from the Capitol Insurrection to... 𝘛𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘳 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘴𝘰𝘯. No other media outlets- 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 Fox, and 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 the guy who's already released a feature-length, bullshit-soaked propaganda piece about the event. This is your Congress on GQP, kids.
They're prepping for round 2 after the public repudiates the Mango Madman in 2024. And I'll bet this time the kooks will be coming armed with their AR-15s.
The members have been brainwashed into believing that that money, the billions and billions, is going to lead to something big charity wise. But it will only be hoarded by the church and the highest ranking people in the grift. If any religion is a MLM, the LDS is. Maybe Scientology is on par. But I still think they all are, especially if they evangelize.
All religions are con jobs. Mormonism and Scientology are more obvious because we know the history of the con men who started them. But every religion is about keeping the grift going, every one is funded by the followers, not the deity.
"It would be nice if more Mormons were outraged by their own religious leaders lying to them, but if they haven’t been upset to this point, there’s no reason to believe they’ll come to their senses now."
The sense of smell is the sense of change, so if a stench increases slowly enough, people don't notice it. One hundred billion dollars of ROT can stink to high heaven, or at least to the top of the stratosphere, but apparently from gradual exposure, Mormons' olfactory nerves are oblivious to a fetid miasma that would cause choking and vomiting if it wafted over people all at once.
Maybe the younger members' noses aren't quite as desensitized, and they'll seek fresh air outside the temple.
I work in the financial industry. I have various licenses and certifications that all require continuing ed every year or two on ethics. These courses always include examples of companies paying whopping fines for violating rules. I don’t understand why the fines in this case are so paltry. The SEC should nail their hides to the wall.
Perhaps the errors were just 'nothing' as in merely a couple of zeroes or so, or fly-scat, as in a decimal point stochastically misplaced?