The systematic sexual abuse of children was the church's dirty little secret for centuries. Given the scale of the problem and the relatively small size of the Catholic clergy, there is simply no way that abuse could have ever been anything but common knowledge within the church hierarchy. Until these horrors began becoming public, in one hundred percent of all cases, the church circled the wagons and protected the priests. More often than not, they blamed the victims. 'How dare these people make such an accusation against a man of God!!!!' The Catholic church deserves to be put out of business, as do many other religious organizations. I'm beyond sick of the clergy hiding behind their clerical collars and Bibles to justify the despicable.
Figures. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, so now they want to claim that they have a RIGHT to the cookie jar. Merde, alors.
Once again, I am disgusted, though not at all surprised or shocked. I'm not certain that anything the RCC did would catch me unawares at this departure. I just want to repeat the point that, while the Catholic Church has been penalized monetarily for its crimes (and yeah, they ARE crimes!), they really haven't paid a personal price, in terms of priests or monsignors or bishops or even archbishops being incarcerated. 𝗜 𝗪𝗔𝗡𝗧 𝗧𝗢 𝗦𝗘𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗔𝗧. I want to see a senior member of the Church, standing before the bar of justice and having to face serious prison time. Not just the rapists, either, but those who shuffled them around to prevent their discovery.
To use the words of Christopher Hitchens, they have “already betrayed their charge in the children of their own church,” and they should pay for that!
The fundie evangelicals in my area keep arguing that the RCC isn’t “really” Christian. And when I point out that Baptists have this problem too, I’m told that those particular Baptists aren’t really christians either.
Dolly Parton is either a very successful alien experiment with human DNA or a divine blessing on humanity depending on one’s personal preferred unprovable paradigm.
You made this bed, Roman Catholic Church, now you get to lie in it.
You'll get zero sympathy from me. The RCC is well known for walking on its lay membership in a wide variety of ways, well, this time the chicken came back home to roost. So far as I'm concerned, they can sell those golden monstrances, those priceless artworks, that high-value plot of land, and who knows what else to cover their debts. They can very well practice the poverty they so often left their lay members in all too often down through the years.
Since the RCC won't make any sort of amends on its own, it's only reasonable for the government to change the law so that people can get recompense for the crimes committed against them. If the crime had been committed against the RCC, they'd be screaming for blood already. No whining, just suck it up and deal; better yet, next time clean up your own d@mn mess so others don't have to do it for you.
I suppose when you're so used to telling other people what's right and wrong, and being so very sure of oneself when doing so, it can be a bit hard to wrap your head around an outside agency correctly pointing out you've been so very wrong for so very long.
Not content to just defend themselves, the Praying Predators counterattack the law, their victims' human rights, and the state government hoping that they can resume abusing people with impunity. HEY! ALL CATHOLICS EVERYWHERE! Have you no shame to be supporting this entirely self-serving abomination? As long as the Molesting Mafia promises that they'll get you a ticket into heaven, you don't give a shit about the defenseless young people whom they treat like plastic sex dolls? You rationalize that that has nothing to do with you? You're funding them and you're giving them legitimacy.
Once a religious movement gains traction it inevitably becomes ossified and the official hierarchy takes root and grows in power. Whether its the RC's, Baptists, Buddhists, whatever, the interests of the institution takes precedence over the the 'flock.' And since religious figures can wrap themselves in the protective cloak of religion and can wield power over the faithful, abuse of that power is inevitable.
No one is gonna leave the Catholic Church. I mean, what’s a few sore behinds compared to eternity in hell! The folks in church didn’t get molested, their afterlife is safe.
What we really need to do is fucking nail these priests to the fucking wall m, bury them under the prison and wipe out the entire fortune in the Vatican.
If you read the gospels which are the only books which give any sort of biographical info on Jesus - he went camping with 12 guys and a prostitute for either 3 years or 1. They lived off what people gave them and gleanings... sounds like an early attempt at communism. How can the church claim to represent Jesus and hoard wealth? I know - this is purely rhetorical - I am sure they have perfectly plausible answers for why they need golden chalices and silk raiments.
How can the law violates due process? Statutes of limitations do to some extent violate due process given that they stop people from pursuing criminals. Anything that helps them do this helps due process it seems to me.
Isn't it funny that one of the richest religions in the world keeps filing for bankruptcy to avoid paying its victims?
Doesn't sound very Christian, does it (or maybe it does).
The systematic sexual abuse of children was the church's dirty little secret for centuries. Given the scale of the problem and the relatively small size of the Catholic clergy, there is simply no way that abuse could have ever been anything but common knowledge within the church hierarchy. Until these horrors began becoming public, in one hundred percent of all cases, the church circled the wagons and protected the priests. More often than not, they blamed the victims. 'How dare these people make such an accusation against a man of God!!!!' The Catholic church deserves to be put out of business, as do many other religious organizations. I'm beyond sick of the clergy hiding behind their clerical collars and Bibles to justify the despicable.
Figures. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, so now they want to claim that they have a RIGHT to the cookie jar. Merde, alors.
Once again, I am disgusted, though not at all surprised or shocked. I'm not certain that anything the RCC did would catch me unawares at this departure. I just want to repeat the point that, while the Catholic Church has been penalized monetarily for its crimes (and yeah, they ARE crimes!), they really haven't paid a personal price, in terms of priests or monsignors or bishops or even archbishops being incarcerated. 𝗜 𝗪𝗔𝗡𝗧 𝗧𝗢 𝗦𝗘𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗔𝗧. I want to see a senior member of the Church, standing before the bar of justice and having to face serious prison time. Not just the rapists, either, but those who shuffled them around to prevent their discovery.
To use the words of Christopher Hitchens, they have “already betrayed their charge in the children of their own church,” and they should pay for that!
The fundie evangelicals in my area keep arguing that the RCC isn’t “really” Christian. And when I point out that Baptists have this problem too, I’m told that those particular Baptists aren’t really christians either.
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Dolly Parton is either a very successful alien experiment with human DNA or a divine blessing on humanity depending on one’s personal preferred unprovable paradigm.
You made this bed, Roman Catholic Church, now you get to lie in it.
You'll get zero sympathy from me. The RCC is well known for walking on its lay membership in a wide variety of ways, well, this time the chicken came back home to roost. So far as I'm concerned, they can sell those golden monstrances, those priceless artworks, that high-value plot of land, and who knows what else to cover their debts. They can very well practice the poverty they so often left their lay members in all too often down through the years.
Since the RCC won't make any sort of amends on its own, it's only reasonable for the government to change the law so that people can get recompense for the crimes committed against them. If the crime had been committed against the RCC, they'd be screaming for blood already. No whining, just suck it up and deal; better yet, next time clean up your own d@mn mess so others don't have to do it for you.
"the legislature can’t undo a previously granted right."
Like owning slaves ? Are you arguing the 13th Amendment is inconstitutional ?
I suppose when you're so used to telling other people what's right and wrong, and being so very sure of oneself when doing so, it can be a bit hard to wrap your head around an outside agency correctly pointing out you've been so very wrong for so very long.
The Rape Empire Strikes Back.
Not content to just defend themselves, the Praying Predators counterattack the law, their victims' human rights, and the state government hoping that they can resume abusing people with impunity. HEY! ALL CATHOLICS EVERYWHERE! Have you no shame to be supporting this entirely self-serving abomination? As long as the Molesting Mafia promises that they'll get you a ticket into heaven, you don't give a shit about the defenseless young people whom they treat like plastic sex dolls? You rationalize that that has nothing to do with you? You're funding them and you're giving them legitimacy.
Once a religious movement gains traction it inevitably becomes ossified and the official hierarchy takes root and grows in power. Whether its the RC's, Baptists, Buddhists, whatever, the interests of the institution takes precedence over the the 'flock.' And since religious figures can wrap themselves in the protective cloak of religion and can wield power over the faithful, abuse of that power is inevitable.
No one is gonna leave the Catholic Church. I mean, what’s a few sore behinds compared to eternity in hell! The folks in church didn’t get molested, their afterlife is safe.
What we really need to do is fucking nail these priests to the fucking wall m, bury them under the prison and wipe out the entire fortune in the Vatican.
Oh, NOW Christians care about the Constitution?
If you read the gospels which are the only books which give any sort of biographical info on Jesus - he went camping with 12 guys and a prostitute for either 3 years or 1. They lived off what people gave them and gleanings... sounds like an early attempt at communism. How can the church claim to represent Jesus and hoard wealth? I know - this is purely rhetorical - I am sure they have perfectly plausible answers for why they need golden chalices and silk raiments.
You know which exodus of Catholics I'd REALLY like to see? The one involving the 6½ catlickers on the US Supreme Court.
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How can the law violates due process? Statutes of limitations do to some extent violate due process given that they stop people from pursuing criminals. Anything that helps them do this helps due process it seems to me.