Christians have spent centuries conditioning a knee-jerk fear of atheism. All while keeping people blissfully oblivious to what Christians, acting in the name of Christianity, have done to their fellow humans. This massively screwed up world is, to no small extent, the work product of believers. When people become convinced they're operating under divine sanction, they're capable of excusing almost any horror.
The tens of millions who died under communism demonstrates that "true believers" (as in the book by atheist Eric Hoffer) can be both secular and religious. Almost any horror is ok to bring about their version of "heaven on earth" be it the dictatorship of the proletariat or a "Christian America". If more believers knew about our history they'd be a lot more humble and less willing to impose their views upon others. At least, that's what I would like to think but I may just be as naive as you know what. But, it's shameful how religion has been used to divide and persecute others.
David, for whatever good religion may do, and I don't deny that it does, it has been the source of far more ignorance, hate, death, despite, bigotry, and every single other ill that plagues mankind. As you note, it doesn't really matter whether it's religion that believes in God, religion that believes that one man more or less represents God, or religion that supports the state as God.
My oldest friend in the world, 60 years now is an evangelical Christian and a thoroughly decent man. He wants told me that he felt his church, new apostolic, was the one true church. Yet his own wife and son have left the church over their handling of their own little publicized sexual abuse crisis.
To me, this says worlds about how religion has been used, whether to divide and persecute others, as you say, to deny reality, or as a convenient step ladder to power, money, and the working out of one's own issues and paying for it in the easy coin of other peoples lives
I can think of one. Rejecting the whole concept of a god who doesn't care about millions of starving children, but is obsessed with what I do with my Willy, after believing that nonsense for my entire life.
I don't know that *religion* does any good. Religious people do. And despite their belief that their religion inspires them to do those things, I believe they would do good things if they had never heard of their religion.
Indeed, Hoffer's seminal work wasn't really about religion at all but about Nazis and Communists. One thing that stuck with me about it was his observation that, altho they were nominally bitter enemies of each other during the late 1920s, by the time Hitler had consolidated power in the 1930s, many Communists just switched over to being Nazis without a qualm, demonstrating that it wasn't so much the ostensible philosophies of each group that appealed to them as their fondness for authoritarianism. That lesson is also visible in other arenas of contention, such as religion, business, and sports, each of which attracts its own flavor of fanatics (tho in sports they abbreviate it to just "fans").
It’s unconstitutional for a humanist group to receive government money in order to provide protection and support to humanists in dangerous parts of the world, but perfectly reasonable for a catholic school to get government money taken from public schools to openly teach their religious doctrine to American children who may not have any other option for school. And that’s religious freedom to these dickheads.
People are literally dying because they don’t believe in these assholes’ gods, but it’s anti-Christian to interfere. What could that possibly mean? That it is the foundation of Christianity to murder people for not believing. But you just can’t say that out loud nowadays.
OT- Representatives Justin Jones and Justin Pearson, the two legislators who were expelled from the Tennessee state house by butthurt racist Republicans, have now officially been elected back to their seats:
I don't give them odds for staying very long. Republicans are nothing if not know for being stuck on repeat. They'll expel them again, for less reason (if any).
That's the fun part- at least as far as Tennessee goes. There's no law preventing an expelled legislator from just being appointed right back to their seat (which is what happened with these two, almost immediately), and likewise nothing preventing them from just running for office again in the subsequent special election. If the GQP decides to expel them again, they come right back again.
Not that Republicans aren't that petty... but they'd have to hobble or suspend their own legislative agenda to do it, which in its own way would also be a win.
First, let's finally dispense with the term "Republican" Party. They don't want a republic, they want either an oligarchic dictatorship with theocratic features, or a theocratic dictatorship with oligarchic features. Their money fanatics and their god fanatics will slit each others' throats until one version prevails, but either one will still be the same bloody nightmare for everybody.
So let's refer to the two parties as the Democratic Party and the DEMAGOGIC Party.
The Demagogues have always needed boogeymen and scapegoats: Boogeymen to scare their base into giving them more power, and scapegoats on whom to blame their failures.
They've gone through a long list of targets for these two categories: The Holocaust pretty much spoiled their being able to use the Jews for a few generations, although that's creeping back. Communists were the villains du jour in the 50s and 60s, but since the fall of the Soviet Union, that's lost its scary edge. Since then they've used Black people, Hispanic people, Muslims, and asians with diminishing effectiveness, and they've worn out using gay and lesbian people because the younger generation see through that bullshit. Recently, they've fixated on trans people and drag queens as the combination boogeymen and scapegoats, but that's already beginning to show signs of going stale too.
So who's next to be the Demagogic Party's boogeymen and scapegoats?
Atheists.
Very often a target group gets the bull's eye on their backs because it's in ascendency, and atheists are certainly that nowadays. Their accelerating growth in the U.S. and abroad is scaring the religion industry, so we'll be the ones getting the accusations of evil intent, and the blame for the Demagogues' failures.
Stay alert, stay calm, stay rational, stay in touch, don't fall for their or anyone else's scare tactics, and consider taking self-defense classes just as part of a healthy lifestyle.
"He’s using a misleading right-wing talking point to tarnish two organizations that are actually advancing our nation’s goals."
I doubt we would agree on what our nations goals are. I'm all for religious freedom and separation of church and state while this clown seems agin' it. Just another asshat claiming that if you aren't advancing *his* agenda you're clearly advancing an opposing one.
Some people really can't comprehend neutrality. If you're not for us, you're against us. To them neutrality is staying quiet while they do whatever they want.
"Merlyn warns Wart that ants are belligerent (but Wart doesn't know what that means). Although Merlyn thinks it's too early for this phase of the boy's education, he gives in anyway. When Wart is transformed, he finds himself in the ant colony, greeted by this sign: EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY." - "The Once and Future King", T.H. White
Referring back to an earlier story about the business in NC that fired workers for not joining in their prayer games, here in the Land of the Free, Christian Nationalists would be more than glad to find methods to deny rights to the non-religious or non-conforming beliefs like exclusion from work for refusing to pray along.
There are still several states where laws prohibiting atheists from holding public office are still on the books, even though currently unenforceable. You can bet your bottom dollar they'd be dusted off the moment the wingnuts actually got control, and expanded to every other sector of society.
I tried looking up the number of countries on Earth that have the death penalty just for being Christian. I got no results back.
On the other hand, there are currently 13 nations listed that have the death penalty just for being atheist. A dozen are where Islam holds sway and the 13th (Nigeria) is almost equally divided between Muslims and Christians. That bit on info was my very first hit.
Who are the oppressed/persecuted ones, Rethuglikkkans?
If you are paying attention, you can see that they are working to make being LGBTQQIA2SP+ (yes, the initialism is getting ridiculous, but there are so many who should feel included) a crime worthy of death, they just aren't as far along as they are in Uganda.
I would agree with you then. There are Christian groups out there which are biding their time until they think they have enough legislators and judges to get away with it. Personally, I think they will bring about a backlash which will submerge their efforts but I may be whistling in the dark. Thank you for clarifying your comment to me.
They aren't biding their time, they're already doing it. Everything LGBTQ is being criminalized, by degrees, in every red state in the country, right now. Laws are already on the books, and more are working their way through the various Republican-dominated legislatures- hundreds more, each worse than the last. Don't think of this as some kind of future threat to be wary of; the threat is not imminent, it's 𝘢𝘭𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦, and any backlash they're suffering for the doing is deterring them precisely not at all.
I would say the key to understanding this is to recall that to certain types of theist, 'religious freedom' means 'we are free to force everyone else to bend the knee'.
And the follow-up that certain types of political people, regardless of their agreement with that sentiment or not, find people with that sentiment very useful tools.
The irony of the GOP believing the U.S. would promote atheism when atheists are still routinely persecuted within the U.S. would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous.
I couldn't even get a prominent business publication I was contracting for to include an article I wrote advocating DEI programs stop excluding non-religious people because they won't touch the topic with a ten-foot pole, which further proved my point in writing it in the first place.
I read it. One big cultural difference between our countries, asking someone their religion (or political party/affiliation) is a major faux-pas, and illegal during a job interview.
One only has to remember radical religious Republicans want their brand of a Christian Theocracy and the rest of the Republicans go along to get reelected. I am a non-believer but if others want to believe that is up to them. I only care when they try to lie about things and try to legislate laws based on their beliefs that the rest of us must follow whether we another religion or none at all. The bare face truth is these folks with their radical brand of Christianity are liars, thieves, con men and women who want power over all of us; just like Abraham wanted control over his people so he invented this mythological God.
Were a Christian theocracy were to take root here, all Christian sects except the one in power would find themselves on the outside looking in and wondering why leopards were eating their faces.
Particularly Catholics and Mormons... it was less than a century ago that JFK had to fight an uphill battle to convince voters he'd be accountable to them instead of the Pope, and Mittens was fielding questions about 𝘩𝘪𝘴 sect on the campaign trail in 2012. They're all idiots and dupes if they think they won't suddenly find themselves examining a bus from the underside five minutes after the Evangelicals secure themselves in power.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...and let's not even talk about Republican Jews. 𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘭 fuckin' short memory, that lot has.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...though not as short as the Log Cabin Republicans.
Like running for President at all, which until this very year would have been illegal for him to do while holding office in Florida at the state or local level. Which he was already blatantly doing in full view of everyone, before the new law took effect, even if he hadn't made it official yet.
Well... his program of shipping migrants to blue states while lying to them about where they were going meets the strict definition of kidnapping. So there's that.
This being the same assclown who had his state's government send letters to people who weren't eligible to vote, telling them that they were, just so he could turn around and arrest them when they dried to do what their government told them they were able to (but in fact weren't), and claim that as evidence of voter fraud.
The blood is in the water at this point. I fully expect most if not all the rest of the Republican presidential candidates to weigh on this, and likely pretty soon.
I should mention as well: I just heard discussion that suggests that we could be looking at a VERY EARLY trial date for Trump's latest indictment in DC. Suggestions ran as early as January or February of 2024! Whether that happens or not is obviously still undetermined. Still, it makes things more than a little interesting.
The Pro-Life Party just proved they care NOTHING about life.
Had Christians been put in danger because of the release of sensitive information, the GQP pigs would be screaming from the rocky shores of Maine to the sands of Hawaii.
Their hole-y book itself shows how little in utero "life" means.
The great flood, for example. Countless pregnant women drowned. Hosea 13:16 and the invasion of Samaria by an army sent by You Know Who for "rebelling" against the deity of that book. Untold number of pregnant women having their bellies cut open by swords and the fetuses within destroyed along with the women carrying them. Numbers 5:11-31 and the hideous "Test for an unfaithful wife" that induced miscarriages and abortions, all overseen by YHVHs priests. Leviticus 27:6 says that boy children between one month and 5 years old are worth 5 silver shekels. Girls of the same age? 3 silver shekels. If you were less than a month old, you weren't worth anything.
Not really though, they block all sorts of programs that would help their base live, like expanding Medicare and Medicaid or even think about universal healthcare, any sort of welfare programs, or even regulation of food and housing and chemicals, or safety regulations. Their base is really the largest demographic dying from the lies about the pandemic and vaccines. The vouchers for religious schools have nothing to do with providing school choice to christians, it’s all about defunding public schools, even with the vouchers too many inside their base still wouldn’t be able to afford the private school tuition. Nothing they do supports life, in utero or ex utero. Banning abortion only causes more people to die from complications in pregnancy, finding unsafe means to abort, increases of domestic violence, and a myriad of other factors. It’s all about the cash flowing into thei pockets from the most vulnerable people, who make up a large portion of their base.
They don't really want the 'under-class (non-white, non-christin)' to go to school. They want an uneducated workforce they don't have to pay (or pay peanuts) where they can replace anyone at anytime for any reason and not worry if they can find someone qualified for the job.
Only the upper-class will be educated for professional jobs. If there aren't enough they'll import people from poor countries who think that pittance is a fortune and will take any abuse.
Reading the subtitle of the article again, I can only think: Of course Republicans don't care. Not only are they atheists, but non-white foreigners. I don't think there is any intersectionality they could care less about. I think they even care more for children than such people, and we know how little they care about children.
Is anyone else starting to think that this country (and the world) WOULD be better off if we started actually being as hostile to Christianity as christians claim we are?
The death cult has enough money and influence to own more than half of our political system, to say nothing of its ownings across the planet, all of it being used to enrich themselves, funnel victims to the sadists that make up their institutional hierarchy, and actively make everything worse for everyone.
Imagine all of that, just...gone. imagine the progress we could make. The amount of needless suffering that could be averted.
Once again, Christians in government are demonstrating just how scared shitless they are. They see INCLUSION of non-believers in a government-sponsored statement, regarding freedom of belief, and they instantly try to twist it into "promoting atheism."
Now, personally, I wouldn't mind seeing atheism and freethought promoted a bit around the US, but that's clearly not what's happening here. There is a diversity of beliefs out there in the world, and so long as none of those systems impinge on our government, there shouldn't be a problem. Thing is, there IS a problem with Christianity in particular. They think it's their ball, their bat, and their game, and any suggestion that such is not the case amounts to persecution to them. Christian privilege is what is at the root of all this 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑚 𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔 and nothing else.
For myself, I intend to continue to be an out atheist and to exercise my own freedom of thought as I see fit ... and if the likes of McCaul or Banks or anyone else want to suggest that I'm promoting some "radical ideology," I'm quite prepared to give them or anyone else an earful on just how "Christian" our government and constitution is. You see, I've actually READ it.
Because adding non-believers diluted the purity of their power. Eugenics and facism ties very closely to them. It’s now near impossible to separate the good from the nazis.
Christians have spent centuries conditioning a knee-jerk fear of atheism. All while keeping people blissfully oblivious to what Christians, acting in the name of Christianity, have done to their fellow humans. This massively screwed up world is, to no small extent, the work product of believers. When people become convinced they're operating under divine sanction, they're capable of excusing almost any horror.
The tens of millions who died under communism demonstrates that "true believers" (as in the book by atheist Eric Hoffer) can be both secular and religious. Almost any horror is ok to bring about their version of "heaven on earth" be it the dictatorship of the proletariat or a "Christian America". If more believers knew about our history they'd be a lot more humble and less willing to impose their views upon others. At least, that's what I would like to think but I may just be as naive as you know what. But, it's shameful how religion has been used to divide and persecute others.
Conservative religion and authoritarian government are natural allies. They always have been.
David, for whatever good religion may do, and I don't deny that it does, it has been the source of far more ignorance, hate, death, despite, bigotry, and every single other ill that plagues mankind. As you note, it doesn't really matter whether it's religion that believes in God, religion that believes that one man more or less represents God, or religion that supports the state as God.
My oldest friend in the world, 60 years now is an evangelical Christian and a thoroughly decent man. He wants told me that he felt his church, new apostolic, was the one true church. Yet his own wife and son have left the church over their handling of their own little publicized sexual abuse crisis.
To me, this says worlds about how religion has been used, whether to divide and persecute others, as you say, to deny reality, or as a convenient step ladder to power, money, and the working out of one's own issues and paying for it in the easy coin of other peoples lives
I know of no moral, or worthwhile thing, that could only be done by a religious person.
I can think of one. Rejecting the whole concept of a god who doesn't care about millions of starving children, but is obsessed with what I do with my Willy, after believing that nonsense for my entire life.
Gotcha, atheist!
I'm obsessed with what your Willy is doing with Ryan. :)
Everything that you can imagine, and a couple that you can't.🤪🤪🤪🤪
I clearly mentioned, 'worthwhile'. /s
But what I do with my Willy is worthwhile.
I don't know that *religion* does any good. Religious people do. And despite their belief that their religion inspires them to do those things, I believe they would do good things if they had never heard of their religion.
I try to do good things, and I wish that I had never heard of the religion. Does that count?
Trying to do good things counts. Succeeding at doing good things counts even more.
Indeed, Hoffer's seminal work wasn't really about religion at all but about Nazis and Communists. One thing that stuck with me about it was his observation that, altho they were nominally bitter enemies of each other during the late 1920s, by the time Hitler had consolidated power in the 1930s, many Communists just switched over to being Nazis without a qualm, demonstrating that it wasn't so much the ostensible philosophies of each group that appealed to them as their fondness for authoritarianism. That lesson is also visible in other arenas of contention, such as religion, business, and sports, each of which attracts its own flavor of fanatics (tho in sports they abbreviate it to just "fans").
Agreed. Many people don't want to think for themselves but put their faith in someone else who will do their thinking for them.
It’s unconstitutional for a humanist group to receive government money in order to provide protection and support to humanists in dangerous parts of the world, but perfectly reasonable for a catholic school to get government money taken from public schools to openly teach their religious doctrine to American children who may not have any other option for school. And that’s religious freedom to these dickheads.
People are literally dying because they don’t believe in these assholes’ gods, but it’s anti-Christian to interfere. What could that possibly mean? That it is the foundation of Christianity to murder people for not believing. But you just can’t say that out loud nowadays.
Since christianity is, first and foremost, a death cult, it follows logically that opposing murder is anti-christian.
And they call everyone else Groomers.
OT- Representatives Justin Jones and Justin Pearson, the two legislators who were expelled from the Tennessee state house by butthurt racist Republicans, have now officially been elected back to their seats:
https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-three-election-lawmakers-expelled-1ae19a1bd5f042624568e94b30c8fc1b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj23VmxxkVY
Both won their special elections by overwhelming margins- Jones standing at 78% of the vote in his district, Pearson at 94%.
I don't give them odds for staying very long. Republicans are nothing if not know for being stuck on repeat. They'll expel them again, for less reason (if any).
That's the fun part- at least as far as Tennessee goes. There's no law preventing an expelled legislator from just being appointed right back to their seat (which is what happened with these two, almost immediately), and likewise nothing preventing them from just running for office again in the subsequent special election. If the GQP decides to expel them again, they come right back again.
Not that Republicans aren't that petty... but they'd have to hobble or suspend their own legislative agenda to do it, which in its own way would also be a win.
I was wondering when they'd get around to us.
First, let's finally dispense with the term "Republican" Party. They don't want a republic, they want either an oligarchic dictatorship with theocratic features, or a theocratic dictatorship with oligarchic features. Their money fanatics and their god fanatics will slit each others' throats until one version prevails, but either one will still be the same bloody nightmare for everybody.
So let's refer to the two parties as the Democratic Party and the DEMAGOGIC Party.
The Demagogues have always needed boogeymen and scapegoats: Boogeymen to scare their base into giving them more power, and scapegoats on whom to blame their failures.
They've gone through a long list of targets for these two categories: The Holocaust pretty much spoiled their being able to use the Jews for a few generations, although that's creeping back. Communists were the villains du jour in the 50s and 60s, but since the fall of the Soviet Union, that's lost its scary edge. Since then they've used Black people, Hispanic people, Muslims, and asians with diminishing effectiveness, and they've worn out using gay and lesbian people because the younger generation see through that bullshit. Recently, they've fixated on trans people and drag queens as the combination boogeymen and scapegoats, but that's already beginning to show signs of going stale too.
So who's next to be the Demagogic Party's boogeymen and scapegoats?
Atheists.
Very often a target group gets the bull's eye on their backs because it's in ascendency, and atheists are certainly that nowadays. Their accelerating growth in the U.S. and abroad is scaring the religion industry, so we'll be the ones getting the accusations of evil intent, and the blame for the Demagogues' failures.
Stay alert, stay calm, stay rational, stay in touch, don't fall for their or anyone else's scare tactics, and consider taking self-defense classes just as part of a healthy lifestyle.
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"He’s using a misleading right-wing talking point to tarnish two organizations that are actually advancing our nation’s goals."
I doubt we would agree on what our nations goals are. I'm all for religious freedom and separation of church and state while this clown seems agin' it. Just another asshat claiming that if you aren't advancing *his* agenda you're clearly advancing an opposing one.
Some people really can't comprehend neutrality. If you're not for us, you're against us. To them neutrality is staying quiet while they do whatever they want.
Jesus sure didn't grasp neutrality. See Matthew 12:30 and Luke 11:23, both New Living Translation.
"Merlyn warns Wart that ants are belligerent (but Wart doesn't know what that means). Although Merlyn thinks it's too early for this phase of the boy's education, he gives in anyway. When Wart is transformed, he finds himself in the ant colony, greeted by this sign: EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY." - "The Once and Future King", T.H. White
Sounds like Disney's "The Sword in the Stone". (an old favorite) I'm assuming it was based off White's story.
The 1963 Disney film was based on TH White's "The Sword in the Stone."
To add:
The two works were written 2 decades apart. The Sword and the Stone was published in 1938 while The Once and Future King was released in 1958.
Yep. So was the dreadful, interminable musical "Camelot."
C'est de la Camelote quoi.
If you are looking for me I am away.
Referring back to an earlier story about the business in NC that fired workers for not joining in their prayer games, here in the Land of the Free, Christian Nationalists would be more than glad to find methods to deny rights to the non-religious or non-conforming beliefs like exclusion from work for refusing to pray along.
There are still several states where laws prohibiting atheists from holding public office are still on the books, even though currently unenforceable. You can bet your bottom dollar they'd be dusted off the moment the wingnuts actually got control, and expanded to every other sector of society.
I live in one. 2/3 vote of the legislature and a referendum to the people to repeal.
The Party of Personal Responsibility/Party of Law and Order, everyone.
Lies, damned lies and Rethuglikkkans. I'd call GQP xtians whores, but that would be an insult...to sex industry workers.
I tried looking up the number of countries on Earth that have the death penalty just for being Christian. I got no results back.
On the other hand, there are currently 13 nations listed that have the death penalty just for being atheist. A dozen are where Islam holds sway and the 13th (Nigeria) is almost equally divided between Muslims and Christians. That bit on info was my very first hit.
Who are the oppressed/persecuted ones, Rethuglikkkans?
The death penalty for being a Christian may not exist on the books but that doesn't mean that there isn't persecution of Christians including kiling going on today. The Guardian which is not a right wing paper has a good link on the subject. Here it is: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/02/persecution-driving-christians-out-of-middle-east-report. That having been said, it's not just ironic but horribly bad that American Christians are working to add LGBTQs to the list of those deserving the death penalty overseas. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/uganda-homosexuality-death-american-evangelical-groups
Overseas? Have you not been paying attention?
Paying attention messes with his narrative. The whole thing I posted went sailing so far over his head it achieved orbit.
His reply proves your point.
Isn't he something? *shakes head*
He's not making Christians look any better.
I'm sorry but I don't understand your comment.
If you are paying attention, you can see that they are working to make being LGBTQQIA2SP+ (yes, the initialism is getting ridiculous, but there are so many who should feel included) a crime worthy of death, they just aren't as far along as they are in Uganda.
He outright ignores or “doesn’t understand” any points that causes his Christian worldview to become uncomfortable.
I would agree with you then. There are Christian groups out there which are biding their time until they think they have enough legislators and judges to get away with it. Personally, I think they will bring about a backlash which will submerge their efforts but I may be whistling in the dark. Thank you for clarifying your comment to me.
They aren't biding their time, they're already doing it. Everything LGBTQ is being criminalized, by degrees, in every red state in the country, right now. Laws are already on the books, and more are working their way through the various Republican-dominated legislatures- hundreds more, each worse than the last. Don't think of this as some kind of future threat to be wary of; the threat is not imminent, it's 𝘢𝘭𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦, and any backlash they're suffering for the doing is deterring them precisely not at all.
Has it escaped your notice that their insistence that we deserve death is based squarely on your damn stinking "Good Book"?
I would say the key to understanding this is to recall that to certain types of theist, 'religious freedom' means 'we are free to force everyone else to bend the knee'.
And the follow-up that certain types of political people, regardless of their agreement with that sentiment or not, find people with that sentiment very useful tools.
The irony of the GOP believing the U.S. would promote atheism when atheists are still routinely persecuted within the U.S. would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous.
I couldn't even get a prominent business publication I was contracting for to include an article I wrote advocating DEI programs stop excluding non-religious people because they won't touch the topic with a ten-foot pole, which further proved my point in writing it in the first place.
https://jdgoulet.substack.com/p/atheists-need-not-apply?r=10bxpq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I read it. One big cultural difference between our countries, asking someone their religion (or political party/affiliation) is a major faux-pas, and illegal during a job interview.
One only has to remember radical religious Republicans want their brand of a Christian Theocracy and the rest of the Republicans go along to get reelected. I am a non-believer but if others want to believe that is up to them. I only care when they try to lie about things and try to legislate laws based on their beliefs that the rest of us must follow whether we another religion or none at all. The bare face truth is these folks with their radical brand of Christianity are liars, thieves, con men and women who want power over all of us; just like Abraham wanted control over his people so he invented this mythological God.
Were a Christian theocracy were to take root here, all Christian sects except the one in power would find themselves on the outside looking in and wondering why leopards were eating their faces.
Particularly Catholics and Mormons... it was less than a century ago that JFK had to fight an uphill battle to convince voters he'd be accountable to them instead of the Pope, and Mittens was fielding questions about 𝘩𝘪𝘴 sect on the campaign trail in 2012. They're all idiots and dupes if they think they won't suddenly find themselves examining a bus from the underside five minutes after the Evangelicals secure themselves in power.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...and let's not even talk about Republican Jews. 𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘭 fuckin' short memory, that lot has.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...though not as short as the Log Cabin Republicans.
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...or Caitlyn Jenner, that bloody Quisling.
Black republicons, women republicons...
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Indeed
Indeed.
This is kind of dumb move on defacist part, it proves that republican voter "integrity" bill are nothing more then voter suppression.
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/ron-desantis-comes-out-against-trumps-2020-election-fraud-claims-theories-did-not-prove-to-be-true/#article-nav
Looks like DeSantis is now off Trump's Christmas list. 😉
I am sure that him Ron will be crying when he does not get to party at Mar A Lago
Drumpster offering birthday/christmas gifts ? Are you all right ?
You didn't see the winky emoji? Tongue, meet cheek. 🙂
I really didn't see it 😅
A demonic country who doesn't exist.
Trump's got 57 varieties of indictments.
He's in better company than he deserves.
The only company he deserves is genpop at one of the better federal penitentiaries.
Despite having done several things that *should* be crimes, DeSantis hasn't, as far as I know, broken any laws.
It’s difficult to break laws when you change the laws immediately before you plan to do the illegal thing.
There is that. Having a pet legislature sure is a nice thing.
Like running for President at all, which until this very year would have been illegal for him to do while holding office in Florida at the state or local level. Which he was already blatantly doing in full view of everyone, before the new law took effect, even if he hadn't made it official yet.
Well... his program of shipping migrants to blue states while lying to them about where they were going meets the strict definition of kidnapping. So there's that.
This being the same assclown who had his state's government send letters to people who weren't eligible to vote, telling them that they were, just so he could turn around and arrest them when they dried to do what their government told them they were able to (but in fact weren't), and claim that as evidence of voter fraud.
Are they playing Hypocrisy Bingo, or something?
The blood is in the water at this point. I fully expect most if not all the rest of the Republican presidential candidates to weigh on this, and likely pretty soon.
I should mention as well: I just heard discussion that suggests that we could be looking at a VERY EARLY trial date for Trump's latest indictment in DC. Suggestions ran as early as January or February of 2024! Whether that happens or not is obviously still undetermined. Still, it makes things more than a little interesting.
Got yer popcorn and beer, gang?
Is that the only option? Damn. I wanted to call out for a pepperoni pizza. (None of Mourner's damn pineapple.)
Nuthin' wrong with pizza ... or hot dogs ... hamburgers ... whatever floats yer boat! [or sinks Trump's!]
https://youtu.be/rKuR-1TC7s4?t=58
Hey ! Include DM and NOGODZ too 😁
👌 Any unclaimed slice of Hawaiian pizza is mine.
If you are faster than DM's cane.
brett kavanaugh got his beer ready.
That's kind of like announcing that birds have feathers, no?
And today still wasn't the day I woke up to hear he and Thomas has been involved in a single car vs tree fatal DUI.
As George's friends would say, "Watch out for that tree!"
The Pro-Life Party just proved they care NOTHING about life.
Had Christians been put in danger because of the release of sensitive information, the GQP pigs would be screaming from the rocky shores of Maine to the sands of Hawaii.
It might be more accurate to say that they care nothing about the lives of atheists.
They care nothing about life ex-utero.
"They care nothing about life ex-utero."
Bingo.
Meaning they don't care about life in utero either.
Their hole-y book itself shows how little in utero "life" means.
The great flood, for example. Countless pregnant women drowned. Hosea 13:16 and the invasion of Samaria by an army sent by You Know Who for "rebelling" against the deity of that book. Untold number of pregnant women having their bellies cut open by swords and the fetuses within destroyed along with the women carrying them. Numbers 5:11-31 and the hideous "Test for an unfaithful wife" that induced miscarriages and abortions, all overseen by YHVHs priests. Leviticus 27:6 says that boy children between one month and 5 years old are worth 5 silver shekels. Girls of the same age? 3 silver shekels. If you were less than a month old, you weren't worth anything.
I would disagree. They care plenty about their base. That's why you see things like vouchers for religious schools.
Not really though, they block all sorts of programs that would help their base live, like expanding Medicare and Medicaid or even think about universal healthcare, any sort of welfare programs, or even regulation of food and housing and chemicals, or safety regulations. Their base is really the largest demographic dying from the lies about the pandemic and vaccines. The vouchers for religious schools have nothing to do with providing school choice to christians, it’s all about defunding public schools, even with the vouchers too many inside their base still wouldn’t be able to afford the private school tuition. Nothing they do supports life, in utero or ex utero. Banning abortion only causes more people to die from complications in pregnancy, finding unsafe means to abort, increases of domestic violence, and a myriad of other factors. It’s all about the cash flowing into thei pockets from the most vulnerable people, who make up a large portion of their base.
So true. Since they can't force public school children to pray to jeebus, they want to destroy the public schools.
They don't really want the 'under-class (non-white, non-christin)' to go to school. They want an uneducated workforce they don't have to pay (or pay peanuts) where they can replace anyone at anytime for any reason and not worry if they can find someone qualified for the job.
Only the upper-class will be educated for professional jobs. If there aren't enough they'll import people from poor countries who think that pittance is a fortune and will take any abuse.
Reading the subtitle of the article again, I can only think: Of course Republicans don't care. Not only are they atheists, but non-white foreigners. I don't think there is any intersectionality they could care less about. I think they even care more for children than such people, and we know how little they care about children.
And being foreign, there won't be too much by way of domestic consequences.
Is anyone else starting to think that this country (and the world) WOULD be better off if we started actually being as hostile to Christianity as christians claim we are?
The death cult has enough money and influence to own more than half of our political system, to say nothing of its ownings across the planet, all of it being used to enrich themselves, funnel victims to the sadists that make up their institutional hierarchy, and actively make everything worse for everyone.
Imagine all of that, just...gone. imagine the progress we could make. The amount of needless suffering that could be averted.
One word. Alexandria.
Lonely Hypatia against an unwashed army bent on destroying anything that didn't agree with them.
After she was accused of the faux crime of heresy, good Christians flayed her flesh from her body and then added salt to increase the agony.
Her too but I thought about Hero of Alexandria who invented the first steam machines.
If there are ethereal patrons, You may be sure that she is that to librarians everywhere.
https://youtu.be/Ep1oktyqBpc
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑠𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑜𝑚 𝑜𝑓 𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑖𝑐𝑒 𝑢𝑛𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑜𝑚 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑢𝑠𝑒.
-- David Hume
Once again, Christians in government are demonstrating just how scared shitless they are. They see INCLUSION of non-believers in a government-sponsored statement, regarding freedom of belief, and they instantly try to twist it into "promoting atheism."
Now, personally, I wouldn't mind seeing atheism and freethought promoted a bit around the US, but that's clearly not what's happening here. There is a diversity of beliefs out there in the world, and so long as none of those systems impinge on our government, there shouldn't be a problem. Thing is, there IS a problem with Christianity in particular. They think it's their ball, their bat, and their game, and any suggestion that such is not the case amounts to persecution to them. Christian privilege is what is at the root of all this 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑚 𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔 and nothing else.
For myself, I intend to continue to be an out atheist and to exercise my own freedom of thought as I see fit ... and if the likes of McCaul or Banks or anyone else want to suggest that I'm promoting some "radical ideology," I'm quite prepared to give them or anyone else an earful on just how "Christian" our government and constitution is. You see, I've actually READ it.
I'm not so certain that they have.
Because adding non-believers diluted the purity of their power. Eugenics and facism ties very closely to them. It’s now near impossible to separate the good from the nazis.