As I approach the midway point of my eighth decade, few things terrify me as much as the prospect of ending my days in a Catholic hospital. Not that other religiously affiliated hospitals are a whole lot better, it's just that the Catholic hospitals are the worst.
This needs to become federal law as fast as can be managed. While quite a bit of this mostly applies to women's health care, men are not exempted and the public deserves to know the truth from the medical community - religious or otherwise. I'm disappointed that the medical community isn't doing this already on its own.
I've said previously several times that I'd like to see religion removed from medical care of all kinds, that hasn't changed. I still regard this sort of transparency as a good step in the right direction, and I'm really hoping this bill passes. I just worry about the number of 'other' religious medical facilities around, it's not like the RCC is the only one pulling this particular stunt.
OT - More proof repubs are too stupid to think, or to be blunt, Texass conservatives like taking a shit in their own mouths
“𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐊𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭? 𝐈’𝐦 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐃𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐧𝐲𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞.”
There’s a quiet new crisis brewing in Texas following the abortion ban. It could get much worse.
This is all happening as Texans can’t afford to lose more access to medical care. In 2022, 15 percent of the state’s 254 counties had no doctor, according to data from the state health department, and about two-thirds had no OB-GYN. Texas has one of the most significant physician shortages in the country, with a shortfall that is expected to increase by more than 50 percent over the next decade, according to the state’s projections. The shortage of registered nurses, around 30,000, is expected to nearly double over the same period. Already, Texans in large swaths of the state must drive hours for medical care, including to give birth. According to recent research from the nonprofit March of Dimes, it is among the worst states for maternity care access, which has decreased in a dozen Texas counties in the past two years, mostly due to a loss of obstetrics providers.
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Charles Brown, the ACOG chair, worries that absent clarity and changes from state leaders, a mass exodus could soon occur. “We have not had the front-page photo of the doctor in handcuffs yet. When that happens, I think that will be the napalm,” he said. “Once that first arrest is on the front page of the paper, that will be a defining moment for a lot of people.”
Action like this is so badly overdue, I'm not sure there are words to express it. It's valuable for two reasons:
1. It provides valuable information to anyone wishing to get services from a Catholic hospital.
2. It puts on public display the efforts that Catholic hospitals have historically used to superimpose their belief system on the people they treat.
Personally, I think that second point is as important as the first. Hemant and others have written repeatedly about incidents in Catholic hospitals, regarding failure to perform live-saving procedures, because they supposedly violate Catholic doctrine. This tends to focus particularly on women who have dangerous pregnancies which may threaten their lives, though I would also wonder about a circumstance where a man might have a cancerous testicle which would require removal and potentially make him infertile. Haven't heard such a case, yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. The RCC's obsession with Life Über Alles flies in the face of the Hippocratic injunction to "First, Do No Harm," and indeed does an immense disservice to anyone opting for such a facility
As with so many other articles, followup here I think is essential. Let's see where this goes.
OMG! Persecution. I hope this puts a big dent in the catlick hospital revenues. Their federal funding should be eliminated unless they offer complete health care services to all with no religious bullshit.
"Catholic hospitals and health systems receive nearly $48 billion of taxpayer dollars each year, in the form of Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements, while seeking expansion of government permission to use religious doctrine to restrict care."
This is terrific, but it's not hard to envision what the USCCB's court challenge will look like. They'll try to claim this is compelled speech, and therefore unconstitutional. And I have to admit that I see some small validity to that argument. But any reasonable court would find that the benefits to human health and well-being, aka quality of life--what the constitution calls "the general welfare"--far outweigh that concern.
Wait, did I say "reasonable court"? Well, I'm old enough to remember when we used to have those. You know, back in the days of black and white TV. Are you?
As I wouldn't go to a Catholic Church for an operation (or anything else, for that matter), Catholic hospitals need to actually provide the services that secular hospitals provide or get out of the business and stick to what they know best: teaching lies to gullible people and very young children.
I was out for a walk in the bush today with the usual mate, and he told me about it his sister who like all his family went to a Catholic school. In England. They used to send a van round to screen for TB, and when it arrived at his sister's school, they went through and nobody had until they came to one class. 30 out of 45 kids had TB. And funnily enough it was worse in the smaller kids who sat towards the front of the room. Turns out the nun had been turning up to work after coughing blood up when she got up, and decided that God would take care of it. The mate's sister was okay eventually, but 10 of those kids' lungs were scarred for life.
As I approach the midway point of my eighth decade, few things terrify me as much as the prospect of ending my days in a Catholic hospital. Not that other religiously affiliated hospitals are a whole lot better, it's just that the Catholic hospitals are the worst.
I have a much better idea. Make it illegal for any religious organization to have anything to do with people's healthcare.
This needs to become federal law as fast as can be managed. While quite a bit of this mostly applies to women's health care, men are not exempted and the public deserves to know the truth from the medical community - religious or otherwise. I'm disappointed that the medical community isn't doing this already on its own.
I've said previously several times that I'd like to see religion removed from medical care of all kinds, that hasn't changed. I still regard this sort of transparency as a good step in the right direction, and I'm really hoping this bill passes. I just worry about the number of 'other' religious medical facilities around, it's not like the RCC is the only one pulling this particular stunt.
It may not in any way be an anti religious bill but just wait for the cries of persecution that are bound to follow. It’s in their DNA!
OT - More proof repubs are too stupid to think, or to be blunt, Texass conservatives like taking a shit in their own mouths
“𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐊𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭? 𝐈’𝐦 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐃𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐧𝐲𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞.”
There’s a quiet new crisis brewing in Texas following the abortion ban. It could get much worse.
This is all happening as Texans can’t afford to lose more access to medical care. In 2022, 15 percent of the state’s 254 counties had no doctor, according to data from the state health department, and about two-thirds had no OB-GYN. Texas has one of the most significant physician shortages in the country, with a shortfall that is expected to increase by more than 50 percent over the next decade, according to the state’s projections. The shortage of registered nurses, around 30,000, is expected to nearly double over the same period. Already, Texans in large swaths of the state must drive hours for medical care, including to give birth. According to recent research from the nonprofit March of Dimes, it is among the worst states for maternity care access, which has decreased in a dozen Texas counties in the past two years, mostly due to a loss of obstetrics providers.
<snip>
Charles Brown, the ACOG chair, worries that absent clarity and changes from state leaders, a mass exodus could soon occur. “We have not had the front-page photo of the doctor in handcuffs yet. When that happens, I think that will be the napalm,” he said. “Once that first arrest is on the front page of the paper, that will be a defining moment for a lot of people.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/texas-abortion-law-doctors-nurses-care-supreme-court.html
I don’t belong to your book club, its rules should never be applied to me. If you aren’t willing to provide healthcare, don’t get into healthcare.
Action like this is so badly overdue, I'm not sure there are words to express it. It's valuable for two reasons:
1. It provides valuable information to anyone wishing to get services from a Catholic hospital.
2. It puts on public display the efforts that Catholic hospitals have historically used to superimpose their belief system on the people they treat.
Personally, I think that second point is as important as the first. Hemant and others have written repeatedly about incidents in Catholic hospitals, regarding failure to perform live-saving procedures, because they supposedly violate Catholic doctrine. This tends to focus particularly on women who have dangerous pregnancies which may threaten their lives, though I would also wonder about a circumstance where a man might have a cancerous testicle which would require removal and potentially make him infertile. Haven't heard such a case, yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. The RCC's obsession with Life Über Alles flies in the face of the Hippocratic injunction to "First, Do No Harm," and indeed does an immense disservice to anyone opting for such a facility
As with so many other articles, followup here I think is essential. Let's see where this goes.
OMG! Persecution. I hope this puts a big dent in the catlick hospital revenues. Their federal funding should be eliminated unless they offer complete health care services to all with no religious bullshit.
"Catholic hospitals and health systems receive nearly $48 billion of taxpayer dollars each year, in the form of Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements, while seeking expansion of government permission to use religious doctrine to restrict care."
http://www.communitycatalyst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2020-Cath-Hosp-Report-2020-31.pdf
This is terrific, but it's not hard to envision what the USCCB's court challenge will look like. They'll try to claim this is compelled speech, and therefore unconstitutional. And I have to admit that I see some small validity to that argument. But any reasonable court would find that the benefits to human health and well-being, aka quality of life--what the constitution calls "the general welfare"--far outweigh that concern.
Wait, did I say "reasonable court"? Well, I'm old enough to remember when we used to have those. You know, back in the days of black and white TV. Are you?
Once again, those secularists have to keep the supposedly moral honest.
Finally a win for Drag Queen Story Hour
https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-retreat-bloodied-n-180939669.html
As I wouldn't go to a Catholic Church for an operation (or anything else, for that matter), Catholic hospitals need to actually provide the services that secular hospitals provide or get out of the business and stick to what they know best: teaching lies to gullible people and very young children.
"The doctor is already performing surgery, so performing a tubal ligation actually lets you kill two birds with one stone."
Umm... I would suggest a better metaphor there.
I was out for a walk in the bush today with the usual mate, and he told me about it his sister who like all his family went to a Catholic school. In England. They used to send a van round to screen for TB, and when it arrived at his sister's school, they went through and nobody had until they came to one class. 30 out of 45 kids had TB. And funnily enough it was worse in the smaller kids who sat towards the front of the room. Turns out the nun had been turning up to work after coughing blood up when she got up, and decided that God would take care of it. The mate's sister was okay eventually, but 10 of those kids' lungs were scarred for life.
"Dignity" Health? Not so much.
OT - 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐬 𝐓𝐫𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐁𝐚𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐏𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐇𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐍𝐨 𝐂𝐚𝐬𝐞
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/abortion-pill-mifepristone-misoprostol-ban-fail.html