Mid Vermont Christian School refused to play trans athletes or abide by anti-discrimination laws. But they still want access to state-sponsored benefits.
I would love for someone from the school to explain what specific religious belief is violated by their girls basketball team playing a game with a biological male on the other team. Relatedly, I would love to know their opinion on the morality of the movie “Air Bud.”
Christians are very quick to play the victim and claim they are being persecuted, but what this school is trying to do is impose their religious beliefs on others. As they always do, they wail and gnash their teeth whenever they face consequences for their bigotry. They tend to be the people who think their religion entitles them to rule the country.
“The 71-page lawsuit cites Supreme Court decisions (like Carson v. Makin) that said if a state offers certain benefits to public schools, they can’t deny those benefits to private (usually Christian) schools.“
Public school money should never go to private schools, religious or secular. Ever. Public school money is constantly being diverted to private institutions and that causes the public schools to fail. Tax money is to provide a benefit to the entire community, in the case of public school money, it is to build, maintain and operate schools open to all citizens of the community. It is not for each individual student to have funds to get an education as they choose. If parents want to choose a different school from the local public school, they can move to a better public school district, or apply to bus into another public school district, or pay for homeschooling or pay for private schooling. There are options. However, if the public school district has to parcel out the money for each student to go to different schools then it will never have enough money to function. But that is the intent of the GOP who are making these voucher proposals and the Christian schools that force their bullshit on public schools.
Clearly, their first mistake was allowing the girls to play sports. What were they thinking? 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 knows that intense physical exertion could make a woman's uterus fall out, and 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 what's she good for?!
(/s, 𝘫𝘶𝘶𝘶𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 there's anyone dense enough to need it...)
Oh yeah? My religious beliefs say that anti-LGBTQ beliefs are immoral. Allowing this school to play basketball against my kids violates my religious liberties! And think of the danger to my kids. You can’t force them to be around immoral people.
I must admit I'm completely sick of this. Too often, some Christian group comes along and joins some sort of larger organization, then tries to insist the whole organization cater to their whims. Sure, it happens more often when the large organization is in some way part of the government, but even when it's not the Christian group still tries to force the issue, and when they don't get their way, they scream about how persecuted they are.
Enough already. The expectation that the rest of the public will be willing to do things the Christian way is ridiculous, and is by no means persecution in any event. Mr. Nichols was completely correct when he said “If you don’t want to follow VPA rules, that’s fine… But then you're just not a VPA member." Let me reiterate here: You cannot be a 'member' of a group when you refuse to follow that group's rules, codes, standards, or whatever expectations there may be for that group. If you don't want to follow those expectations, that's fine, but then the group is right to tell you to take a hike. 𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒅𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒔𝒂𝒎𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒂 𝒎𝒆𝒎𝒃𝒆𝒓 𝒐𝒇 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒄𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒂𝒅𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒄 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒅𝒔.
This whining because the shoe is now on your foot is unbecoming. It sets a poor example. It's tired, old, and immature. Nobody wants to deal with that, the vast majority are working three jobs to stay in debt while raising kids. As I've been told by Christians too many times to count: Suck it up, buttercup, this isn't going to the way you think it will.
“because the school believes biological differences between boys and girls matter.”
The biological differences between boys and girls matter how? This lie has kept women out of nearly every aspect of society and life for centuries, but tell me again how this is protecting your girls. It’s been used to say women can’t be in the workplace, or driving cars, or even playing sports at all. The false idea that women are incapable of rational thought is still being used to block women from high levels of government and, hell, even low level menial jobs.
Fuck right off with that shit.
Oh and btw, Women’s sports leagues were started so that they wouldn’t show up the mediocre men playing sports. Look up Babe Ruth getting struck out by a teenaged girl.
“Canceling our membership is not a solution and does nothing to deal with the very real issue of safety and fairness facing women’s sports in our beloved state.“
Yes it does, it eliminated misogynist, bigoted jerks from the league and kept them from being an influence on the children having fun playing sports.
Sorry if this is a repeat, we’re having internet issues and this was given a couple error messages.
The state offers you the benefit of participating in a trans-accepting league. The league is trans-accepting because, among other reasons, State law requires it. There no 1st amendment constitutional requirement for the league to function according to your specific religious precepts. Not only that, but based on the article State law appears to forbid the league from doing so even if they wanted to (hint: they don't).
The only problem being that they will continue clog up the courts for years with one frivolous law after another, hoping to finally find a religiously bigoted judge to carry their holy water.
As the article so well says, if you want to participate in society, your behavior must be acceptable to society. I guess God is a sociopath to the larger, money giving society.
Actions. Consequences. In this case, a Christian school wants to behave in a bigoted fashion, and they have to face the fallout of that bigotry. They have nothing but their own narrow-mindedness to blame, though it will take them a bit to admit that (if they ever do).
In any case, I hope the Vermont sports sanctioning body does NOT back down.
I would love for someone from the school to explain what specific religious belief is violated by their girls basketball team playing a game with a biological male on the other team. Relatedly, I would love to know their opinion on the morality of the movie “Air Bud.”
Christians are very quick to play the victim and claim they are being persecuted, but what this school is trying to do is impose their religious beliefs on others. As they always do, they wail and gnash their teeth whenever they face consequences for their bigotry. They tend to be the people who think their religion entitles them to rule the country.
“The 71-page lawsuit cites Supreme Court decisions (like Carson v. Makin) that said if a state offers certain benefits to public schools, they can’t deny those benefits to private (usually Christian) schools.“
Public school money should never go to private schools, religious or secular. Ever. Public school money is constantly being diverted to private institutions and that causes the public schools to fail. Tax money is to provide a benefit to the entire community, in the case of public school money, it is to build, maintain and operate schools open to all citizens of the community. It is not for each individual student to have funds to get an education as they choose. If parents want to choose a different school from the local public school, they can move to a better public school district, or apply to bus into another public school district, or pay for homeschooling or pay for private schooling. There are options. However, if the public school district has to parcel out the money for each student to go to different schools then it will never have enough money to function. But that is the intent of the GOP who are making these voucher proposals and the Christian schools that force their bullshit on public schools.
“by preventing them from practicing their religious beliefs about sexuality and gender.”
1. Where does their religion say that.
2. Who cares.
Clearly, their first mistake was allowing the girls to play sports. What were they thinking? 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 knows that intense physical exertion could make a woman's uterus fall out, and 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 what's she good for?!
(/s, 𝘫𝘶𝘶𝘶𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 there's anyone dense enough to need it...)
"MVCS refused to play, however, because Long Trail had a trans athlete on the team."
Leave it up to Christians to literally take their ball and go home like the spoiled brats they are.
Oh yeah? My religious beliefs say that anti-LGBTQ beliefs are immoral. Allowing this school to play basketball against my kids violates my religious liberties! And think of the danger to my kids. You can’t force them to be around immoral people.
O/T: Houston School District To End PragerU Indoctrination After 73 Schools See Video Mocking Climate Change.
https://www.joemygod.com/2023/11/houston-school-district-to-end-prageru-indoctrination-after-73-schools-see-video-mocking-climate-change/
I must admit I'm completely sick of this. Too often, some Christian group comes along and joins some sort of larger organization, then tries to insist the whole organization cater to their whims. Sure, it happens more often when the large organization is in some way part of the government, but even when it's not the Christian group still tries to force the issue, and when they don't get their way, they scream about how persecuted they are.
Enough already. The expectation that the rest of the public will be willing to do things the Christian way is ridiculous, and is by no means persecution in any event. Mr. Nichols was completely correct when he said “If you don’t want to follow VPA rules, that’s fine… But then you're just not a VPA member." Let me reiterate here: You cannot be a 'member' of a group when you refuse to follow that group's rules, codes, standards, or whatever expectations there may be for that group. If you don't want to follow those expectations, that's fine, but then the group is right to tell you to take a hike. 𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒅𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒔𝒂𝒎𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒂 𝒎𝒆𝒎𝒃𝒆𝒓 𝒐𝒇 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒄𝒉𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒂𝒅𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒄 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒅𝒔.
This whining because the shoe is now on your foot is unbecoming. It sets a poor example. It's tired, old, and immature. Nobody wants to deal with that, the vast majority are working three jobs to stay in debt while raising kids. As I've been told by Christians too many times to count: Suck it up, buttercup, this isn't going to the way you think it will.
“because the school believes biological differences between boys and girls matter.”
The biological differences between boys and girls matter how? This lie has kept women out of nearly every aspect of society and life for centuries, but tell me again how this is protecting your girls. It’s been used to say women can’t be in the workplace, or driving cars, or even playing sports at all. The false idea that women are incapable of rational thought is still being used to block women from high levels of government and, hell, even low level menial jobs.
Fuck right off with that shit.
Oh and btw, Women’s sports leagues were started so that they wouldn’t show up the mediocre men playing sports. Look up Babe Ruth getting struck out by a teenaged girl.
“Canceling our membership is not a solution and does nothing to deal with the very real issue of safety and fairness facing women’s sports in our beloved state.“
Yes it does, it eliminated misogynist, bigoted jerks from the league and kept them from being an influence on the children having fun playing sports.
Sorry if this is a repeat, we’re having internet issues and this was given a couple error messages.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 71-𝑝𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑠𝑢𝑖𝑡 𝑐𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 (𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝐶𝑎𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑣. 𝑀𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑛) 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 𝑖𝑓 𝑎 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑐𝑒𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑛’𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑒 (𝑢𝑠𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛) 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠
The state offers you the benefit of participating in a trans-accepting league. The league is trans-accepting because, among other reasons, State law requires it. There no 1st amendment constitutional requirement for the league to function according to your specific religious precepts. Not only that, but based on the article State law appears to forbid the league from doing so even if they wanted to (hint: they don't).
Christian privilege gets pushback, christians throw tantrum. Water still wet, Francisco Franco still dead.
The only problem being that they will continue clog up the courts for years with one frivolous law after another, hoping to finally find a religiously bigoted judge to carry their holy water.
As the article so well says, if you want to participate in society, your behavior must be acceptable to society. I guess God is a sociopath to the larger, money giving society.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Actions. Consequences. In this case, a Christian school wants to behave in a bigoted fashion, and they have to face the fallout of that bigotry. They have nothing but their own narrow-mindedness to blame, though it will take them a bit to admit that (if they ever do).
In any case, I hope the Vermont sports sanctioning body does NOT back down.