Unless you're an employee, which means you do as we tell you, attend prayer meetings and read what we tell you to read, or we'll fire your ass. And THEN ... we'll get our asses kicked, individually and collectively, for being religious assholes!
Why not? If some company CEO wanted to have a 'sexist joke meeting' at their workplace, and used the excuse "well, no employees has to go if they don't want to. This is just for me (the boss) and the employees who are like me", do you think that would fly? No, it wouldn't. For several reasons.
1. It's obviously exclusive.
2. It sets up an old boy network, giving the strong impression that promotion etc. is linked to attendence.
3. It's coercive even absent any formal requirement. Folks will feel pressure both to go, and to not-object when club activities (jokes, prayers, whatever) bleed over into other parts of the work environment.
The boss should not be leading any prayer group at work. Period.
Honestly this is not rocket surgery folks. At work, do work. Be professional. Save the non-work stuff for, y'know, not being at work.
Forcing religion on people rarely has a happy ending in this country. I would have quit on the spot the first time I was ordered by my employer to participate in a prayer session. I doubt this company learns much from it, as these folks are very quick to paint themselves as the victims of religious persecution.
“There were prayer requests that called out “poor performing employees” by name.“
This screams toxic work environment. Publicly shaming employees - who would want to work there? The owner needs to get a grip.
We need another huge labor movement to deal with this type of abuse. And we are on our way with the writers and actors strikes ( which is getting all the attention but not the only strike out there), Starbucks employees unionizing, UPS, railroad workers, and more. We need to keep up the momentum. Push lawmakers back to regulating employers, pressure corporations into fair compensation, and shame the fucking pizza party mentality into oblivion.
Now this Christian company has extra incentive to gouge their customers. Remember folks, if you 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 deal with a Christian company, get it on writing, have your lawyer check the contract, and count your fingers after the handshake.
This story makes me wonder how many unreported instances of forced religiosity continue in workplaces where management uses this sort of manipulation to control their workers.
If your religion means that much to you, then close up shop and become ministers. Or does that not pay as much? If the loss of income is of that much concern to you, then your Christianity is a shallow thing.
I very much doubt you will sell all you have and give the money to the poor in order to follow the person you claim to be your savior.
Now this is what I call Christian Persecution in America. That is, Christians persecuting others.
Just the way it's been from the time when were were still a collection of colonies under the British, when Christians had the power to impose their will without hindrance.
...because the presiding judge, Tanya Chutkan, has developed a bit of a reputation for bringing the hammer down on insurrectionist shitbags. She's also the one responsible for the eminently quotable "𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘧 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵" line from a ruling where she court-slapped Chump's claim of perpetual executive privilege.
Tennessee is full of businesses with inappropriate work expectations. I'm sure it happens all over the South. I worked for a large commercial construction company that did the same thing - no force, but if you didn't attend it hurt your chances of promotion and impacted your annual reviews in a negative way. Imagine the uproar if a business forced employees to take classes that showed there is no evidence for any deities and that all gods are imaginary. How would that go over? I'm suspicious the outrage would be massive from the same people who demand Bible study as a mandatory part of employment.
Is it me or does $50k for two illegal firings pretty light? At worst it cost them the salaries of those two employees for half a year. And what are the victims going to put on their resumes or tell interviewers when asked why they left? Any evasive answer will be taken in the worst way by interviewers intentionally or otherwise.
OT : not sure if I will be able to go with DM today. My fucking endometriosis choose this day to strike and I need to stay in a calm and stress free environment...
“𝑊𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑓𝑒𝑒𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑” 𝑎𝑛𝑑 “𝑊𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜.”
Unless you're an employee, which means you do as we tell you, attend prayer meetings and read what we tell you to read, or we'll fire your ass. And THEN ... we'll get our asses kicked, individually and collectively, for being religious assholes!
Are we having fun yet?
𝑁𝑜 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑏𝑜𝑠𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑝𝑟𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑎𝑛𝑦.
Why not? If some company CEO wanted to have a 'sexist joke meeting' at their workplace, and used the excuse "well, no employees has to go if they don't want to. This is just for me (the boss) and the employees who are like me", do you think that would fly? No, it wouldn't. For several reasons.
1. It's obviously exclusive.
2. It sets up an old boy network, giving the strong impression that promotion etc. is linked to attendence.
3. It's coercive even absent any formal requirement. Folks will feel pressure both to go, and to not-object when club activities (jokes, prayers, whatever) bleed over into other parts of the work environment.
The boss should not be leading any prayer group at work. Period.
Honestly this is not rocket surgery folks. At work, do work. Be professional. Save the non-work stuff for, y'know, not being at work.
If you can't get 'em to come to church, put the church somewhere they can't get away from it. Praise Jeebus!
"𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑑𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑠 𝑠𝑢𝑔𝑔𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑦𝑒𝑒𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑏𝑎𝑑 𝑏𝑒ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑟"
Those employees were fired for bad behaviour ... their employer's bad behaviour.
Forcing religion on people rarely has a happy ending in this country. I would have quit on the spot the first time I was ordered by my employer to participate in a prayer session. I doubt this company learns much from it, as these folks are very quick to paint themselves as the victims of religious persecution.
Isn't this about where the self-proclaimed "Alliance Defending Freedom" usually steps in to assault people's freedom?
Coercion, intimidation, shaming, and harsh consequences for not at least pretending to believe.
The only thing missing is a sword.
“There were prayer requests that called out “poor performing employees” by name.“
This screams toxic work environment. Publicly shaming employees - who would want to work there? The owner needs to get a grip.
We need another huge labor movement to deal with this type of abuse. And we are on our way with the writers and actors strikes ( which is getting all the attention but not the only strike out there), Starbucks employees unionizing, UPS, railroad workers, and more. We need to keep up the momentum. Push lawmakers back to regulating employers, pressure corporations into fair compensation, and shame the fucking pizza party mentality into oblivion.
Now this Christian company has extra incentive to gouge their customers. Remember folks, if you 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 deal with a Christian company, get it on writing, have your lawyer check the contract, and count your fingers after the handshake.
This story makes me wonder how many unreported instances of forced religiosity continue in workplaces where management uses this sort of manipulation to control their workers.
To the Christian bosses at APS...
If your religion means that much to you, then close up shop and become ministers. Or does that not pay as much? If the loss of income is of that much concern to you, then your Christianity is a shallow thing.
I very much doubt you will sell all you have and give the money to the poor in order to follow the person you claim to be your savior.
Now this is what I call Christian Persecution in America. That is, Christians persecuting others.
Just the way it's been from the time when were were still a collection of colonies under the British, when Christians had the power to impose their will without hindrance.
OT- Chump's Arraignment Hat Trick: https://apnews.com/article/live-updates-trump-indictment-jan-6-investigation-e64fbee9c47b310b1c8edb5265d12b07
We're three for three now! But wait, it gets better: https://apnews.com/article/trump-indictment-judge-tanya-chutkan-capitol-riot-9ba5c18d315697d759521425ea203012
...because the presiding judge, Tanya Chutkan, has developed a bit of a reputation for bringing the hammer down on insurrectionist shitbags. She's also the one responsible for the eminently quotable "𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘧 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵" line from a ruling where she court-slapped Chump's claim of perpetual executive privilege.
Get your popcorn ready!
Tennessee is full of businesses with inappropriate work expectations. I'm sure it happens all over the South. I worked for a large commercial construction company that did the same thing - no force, but if you didn't attend it hurt your chances of promotion and impacted your annual reviews in a negative way. Imagine the uproar if a business forced employees to take classes that showed there is no evidence for any deities and that all gods are imaginary. How would that go over? I'm suspicious the outrage would be massive from the same people who demand Bible study as a mandatory part of employment.
Is it me or does $50k for two illegal firings pretty light? At worst it cost them the salaries of those two employees for half a year. And what are the victims going to put on their resumes or tell interviewers when asked why they left? Any evasive answer will be taken in the worst way by interviewers intentionally or otherwise.
OT : not sure if I will be able to go with DM today. My fucking endometriosis choose this day to strike and I need to stay in a calm and stress free environment...