Of course it is ... because this nation was NOT founded on Christianity, Josh. Do us all a favor and be bothered to actually READ the document it WAS founded on. You won't find so much as one mention of God, Jesus, or Christianity ANYWHERE within it. What you WILL find are the first three words of the Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE. Human beings established this country and its constitution, and neither deity nor carpenter-turned-rabbi had so much as Thing One to do with that process.
If you want to believe by yourself that this is a Christian nation, I can't stop you. If you insist on spreading that lie, I and a whole lot of others are going to call you on it ... EVERY LAST TIME.
βChristian democracyβ-- thatβs an oxymoron if there ever was one. Josh Hawley and his ilk are the very people that are trying to destroy our country under the guise of saving it. Theyβre all fucking nuts.
No matter how many times we explain it, they continue to push the narrative that secularism is mandatory atheism instead of religious neutrality. They are so afraid of losing power that they want to do what they accuse us of: forcing their beliefs on everyone.
I, for one, don't give a shit what anyone else believes, as long as they don't try to force anyone to follow that belief.
First of all, Hawley is a performance artist who deluded himself into believing he could surf a wave of right wing lunacy into the White House. This Biblical heritage of which he speaks, is the shared delusion of the religious right who see their religion as the answer to every question. The founders never mention the Bible in their foundational document. David Barton lacks the educational credentials to teach American history at the grade school level. The religious right survives on being told what they want to hear. Facts and reason need not apply.
βThe quintessential image of Hawley is him raising a fist while cheering on the insurrectionists on January 6.β
Wasnβt he also captured on video running away from the mob? The quintessential image of him is to put those two images side by side. Show him as the corrupt* coward he is.
The "pro-life" advocate who abhors abortion and said that Roe V Wade was "one of the most unjust decisions" (his words) in American judicial history? The guy who pushed for the deregulation of environmental protections put in place under Obama? The gung-ho pro-war chickenhawk who cheered on the Iraq War while avoiding putting on the uniform of his country? The same guy who voted against advancing the COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act? Who criticized the ACA and was proud to have participated in a lawsuit to overturn the ACA as unconstitutional? Who voted against a measure to investigate anti-Asian hate crimes (the SOLE "nay" vote)? The Josh Hawley who supported Trump's family separation policy and supported a wall between the US and Mexico DESPITE what his god said about how to treat foreigners? The Hawley who claims to love his god yet hates LGBTQs (making him a liar)? The very same ammosexual who got a 93% approval rating from the NRA? THAT Josh Hawley?
The problem isn't that "there's not enough Christianity in this country" (despite being the dominant religion here). The problem is is that there are too many Christians like Josh Hawley.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Senator Josh turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Senator Josh.
Duck and cover, Josh, and wish a wish with a story your mother told you then showed you in a building where her father showed her and before him was showed by his father and he by his mother and her by hers etc etc etc.
But you still ran away and unlike the story you love so much, there are pictures...
My only memories of anything Josh Hawley has done since heβs been in Congress is raise a first in solidarity with rioters and then running away in fear from the same rioters. What a putz.
So true. We are not and never intended to be a Christian nation. The Christian Nationalist and Dominionism movements have to be stopped. We are free to be any religion we want or no religion at all, but we cannot allow any one religion to be forced on everyone.
Would this be the same moral order that raped, butchered, betrayed, and murdered Native Americans?
The same moral order that enslaved, raped, tortured, killed, and separated Black people and their families for hundreds of years?
The same moral order that created an apartheid regime complete with terrorism, lynchings, and pogroms?
The same moral order that blasted people demanding equality and human rights with fire hoses, sicced dogs on them, beat them, imprisoned them, threw bombs into their homes, and shot a prophet on a balcony in Memphis?
The same moral order that fought constantly to preserve the legacy and message of statues honoring the butchers, traitors, and murderers who fought to preserve slavery?
The same moral order that laughed while tens of thousands of men suffered, wasted away, and died often separated from their loved ones of AIDS?
The same moral order that callously demands that women die carrying a non-viable fetus?
The same moral order that told a boat of Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust to go fuck themselves and sent them back to die?
The same moral order that rounded up innocent Americans because of Japanese ancestry and put them into concentration camps under shitty conditions while most of their white neighbors robbed them of their property?
Did that moral order prevent Christians from kidnapping the children of refugees and immigrants fleeing violence?
Because all of that happened while America was a predominantly Christian nation. Jesus didn't stop any of it. The Holy Spirit supposedly dwelling in the hearts of American believers didn't keep them from hanging a Black woman, slitting open her belly, and killing the fetus and her. Didn't stop folks from fire bombing Black churches.
That omnibenevolent morally good spirit supposedly dwelling within Christians didn't stop Governor Abbott from killing a woman and her children by preventing the Border Patrol from doing its job.
Woe unto you, you whitewashed sepulcher, you hypocrite, you piece of rancid shit masquerading as a pious and devout man. Woe unto you murderers of the prophets and the innocent. The very notion of your blood stained hands raised in prayer sickens me and any morally good deity that exists. No halfway decent god would answer your cries and no god you would follow is worthy of worship from any morally good person.
In Norway we used almost 200 years to get rid of the forced xianity in our constitution from 1814. The exception is for the "ruling" king or queen, and that is kept because the king wanted it kept and he can actually veto any change to the constitution. It is almost all power he got left.
Why do so many USAians want forced xianity by law or something like that? Don't they believe they have a winning case? Are they weak in their faith?
For me, the quintessential image of Hawley is the video of him running away from the insurrectionists. Like most of those who espouse a return to a religious nation, they run when its principles are imposed on them.
"Even in our most bitter conflicts, Christian culture has been Americaβs common ground."
By which Howler monkey means White kkkristian Male Culture.
"The rights we cherish, the freedoms we enjoy, the ideals we love togetherβall are rooted in and sustained by the tradition of the Bibleβ¦"
Oh no, they are not. No where does the babel mention democracy, freedom of speech, let alone freedom of religion. Slavery was okay. Women/girls were their husbands/fathers property. Murdering your children was okey-dokey.
π΄ππππππ ππ π πΆβπππ π‘πππ πππ‘πππβπ‘βππ‘βπ π βππππ‘ππππ πππ‘πππ ππ¦ π‘ππππ¦βπ πππβπ‘π .
Of course it is ... because this nation was NOT founded on Christianity, Josh. Do us all a favor and be bothered to actually READ the document it WAS founded on. You won't find so much as one mention of God, Jesus, or Christianity ANYWHERE within it. What you WILL find are the first three words of the Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE. Human beings established this country and its constitution, and neither deity nor carpenter-turned-rabbi had so much as Thing One to do with that process.
If you want to believe by yourself that this is a Christian nation, I can't stop you. If you insist on spreading that lie, I and a whole lot of others are going to call you on it ... EVERY LAST TIME.
βChristian democracyβ-- thatβs an oxymoron if there ever was one. Josh Hawley and his ilk are the very people that are trying to destroy our country under the guise of saving it. Theyβre all fucking nuts.
No matter how many times we explain it, they continue to push the narrative that secularism is mandatory atheism instead of religious neutrality. They are so afraid of losing power that they want to do what they accuse us of: forcing their beliefs on everyone.
I, for one, don't give a shit what anyone else believes, as long as they don't try to force anyone to follow that belief.
First of all, Hawley is a performance artist who deluded himself into believing he could surf a wave of right wing lunacy into the White House. This Biblical heritage of which he speaks, is the shared delusion of the religious right who see their religion as the answer to every question. The founders never mention the Bible in their foundational document. David Barton lacks the educational credentials to teach American history at the grade school level. The religious right survives on being told what they want to hear. Facts and reason need not apply.
βThe quintessential image of Hawley is him raising a fist while cheering on the insurrectionists on January 6.β
Wasnβt he also captured on video running away from the mob? The quintessential image of him is to put those two images side by side. Show him as the corrupt* coward he is.
*in every sense of the word.
Josh "The Flash" Hawley?
The "pro-life" advocate who abhors abortion and said that Roe V Wade was "one of the most unjust decisions" (his words) in American judicial history? The guy who pushed for the deregulation of environmental protections put in place under Obama? The gung-ho pro-war chickenhawk who cheered on the Iraq War while avoiding putting on the uniform of his country? The same guy who voted against advancing the COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act? Who criticized the ACA and was proud to have participated in a lawsuit to overturn the ACA as unconstitutional? Who voted against a measure to investigate anti-Asian hate crimes (the SOLE "nay" vote)? The Josh Hawley who supported Trump's family separation policy and supported a wall between the US and Mexico DESPITE what his god said about how to treat foreigners? The Hawley who claims to love his god yet hates LGBTQs (making him a liar)? The very same ammosexual who got a 93% approval rating from the NRA? THAT Josh Hawley?
The problem isn't that "there's not enough Christianity in this country" (despite being the dominant religion here). The problem is is that there are too many Christians like Josh Hawley.
Brave Senator Josh ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Senator Josh turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Senator Josh.
Duck and cover, Josh, and wish a wish with a story your mother told you then showed you in a building where her father showed her and before him was showed by his father and he by his mother and her by hers etc etc etc.
But you still ran away and unlike the story you love so much, there are pictures...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/22/josh-hawley-running-video-capitol/
Guy who ran away from his own leopards says what?
My only memories of anything Josh Hawley has done since heβs been in Congress is raise a first in solidarity with rioters and then running away in fear from the same rioters. What a putz.
So true. We are not and never intended to be a Christian nation. The Christian Nationalist and Dominionism movements have to be stopped. We are free to be any religion we want or no religion at all, but we cannot allow any one religion to be forced on everyone.
"...no moral order to bind us together..."
Would this be the same moral order that raped, butchered, betrayed, and murdered Native Americans?
The same moral order that enslaved, raped, tortured, killed, and separated Black people and their families for hundreds of years?
The same moral order that created an apartheid regime complete with terrorism, lynchings, and pogroms?
The same moral order that blasted people demanding equality and human rights with fire hoses, sicced dogs on them, beat them, imprisoned them, threw bombs into their homes, and shot a prophet on a balcony in Memphis?
The same moral order that fought constantly to preserve the legacy and message of statues honoring the butchers, traitors, and murderers who fought to preserve slavery?
The same moral order that laughed while tens of thousands of men suffered, wasted away, and died often separated from their loved ones of AIDS?
The same moral order that callously demands that women die carrying a non-viable fetus?
The same moral order that told a boat of Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust to go fuck themselves and sent them back to die?
The same moral order that rounded up innocent Americans because of Japanese ancestry and put them into concentration camps under shitty conditions while most of their white neighbors robbed them of their property?
Did that moral order prevent Christians from kidnapping the children of refugees and immigrants fleeing violence?
Because all of that happened while America was a predominantly Christian nation. Jesus didn't stop any of it. The Holy Spirit supposedly dwelling in the hearts of American believers didn't keep them from hanging a Black woman, slitting open her belly, and killing the fetus and her. Didn't stop folks from fire bombing Black churches.
That omnibenevolent morally good spirit supposedly dwelling within Christians didn't stop Governor Abbott from killing a woman and her children by preventing the Border Patrol from doing its job.
Woe unto you, you whitewashed sepulcher, you hypocrite, you piece of rancid shit masquerading as a pious and devout man. Woe unto you murderers of the prophets and the innocent. The very notion of your blood stained hands raised in prayer sickens me and any morally good deity that exists. No halfway decent god would answer your cries and no god you would follow is worthy of worship from any morally good person.
In Norway we used almost 200 years to get rid of the forced xianity in our constitution from 1814. The exception is for the "ruling" king or queen, and that is kept because the king wanted it kept and he can actually veto any change to the constitution. It is almost all power he got left.
Why do so many USAians want forced xianity by law or something like that? Don't they believe they have a winning case? Are they weak in their faith?
For me, the quintessential image of Hawley is the video of him running away from the insurrectionists. Like most of those who espouse a return to a religious nation, they run when its principles are imposed on them.
"Even in our most bitter conflicts, Christian culture has been Americaβs common ground."
By which Howler monkey means White kkkristian Male Culture.
"The rights we cherish, the freedoms we enjoy, the ideals we love togetherβall are rooted in and sustained by the tradition of the Bibleβ¦"
Oh no, they are not. No where does the babel mention democracy, freedom of speech, let alone freedom of religion. Slavery was okay. Women/girls were their husbands/fathers property. Murdering your children was okey-dokey.
So, when the 1861-1865 war happened, christians were fighting who ? Taoists ? Animists ?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/green-day-mike-dirnt-american-idiot-lyric-change_n_65a64dd2e4b07bd6950e043e
Jesus! My son put me on to Green Day β I still regard them as whippersnappers. They must be in their 40s by now dammit.