One of the last things this country and the wider world needs, is the celebration of toxic masculinity. In my experience these men tend to be looking for a way to justify their worst traits, and their deep seated insecurities, such as those exhibited by many members of the audience.
All this incident tells me is that there are hotshot Christians out there who will get bent out of shape about ANYTHING, and then, as in Driscoll's case, make it all about HIM, about his view of the foolishness which is faith, and why people should listen to HIM and not anyone else. Thankfully (and somewhat unbelievably!), someone called Driscoll on it and he begged off.
Still ... anyone wonder why there are over 40,000 Christian denominations? Here's one reason right here.
Jezebel was not who these misogynists say she was, she was not a harlot or seductress, she was a woman facing death with dignity. She’s an easy mark to paint the villain because women aren’t supposed fight back or stand tall in the face of male oppression, they’re supposed to roll over any take it. Any time a woman acts like anything other than a doormat, she’s called a Jezebel. Well, paint my face and call me Jezzie. All women should be proud to be called a Jezebel.
I have to pack for a trip, so I can't really spend a lot of time on this. But..
As a gay man, who studied this garbage for more than 50 years, this is what I see .
There is such an ongoing homoerotic subtext going on that it is amazingly funny. And I could see why it would cause so much conflict. Here you have a man who is going to swallow a sword--NO HOMO!-- who for no discernible reason is going to rip off his shirt--NO HOMO! and show his fine, well muscled body--NO HOMO!--and slide down a long long long pole --NO HOMO!--at a men only conference--NO HOMO!-- where the major topic of conversation is how hard--NO HOMO!-- it is to be a man in a world that seems intent on robbing them of their masculinity. DOUBLE EXTRA NO HOMO!
The funniest part of this is that it's also obvious. Of course Mark Driscoll has to say something, because only an idiot doesn't see the covert Homo erotic subtext running with all jets going full blast. Driscoll can see it, but he can't actually point to it because:
1) homosexuality does not exist among all these very very very very straight men who are very very very very concerned about their very very very very fragile masculinity.
2) saying that he sees it is a tacit admission that he IS it, because very very very straight men don't see this sort of thing. Only a homo would see it, and NO HOMO!!!!
3) Telling them to see it would be bringing up a great deal that is simply a subtext now, and they only see what they want to see because NO HOMO! You simply cannot bring up that subtext and make it explicit because you will get a lot of people very angry because NO HOMO!
I can't remember whether it's Harold and Maud, or Dr. Strangelove, but I can just hear that priest in the movie going on and on and on about precious bodily fluids.
So, Driscoll Did the very best he could do under the situation to preserve both his own fragile masculinity and the fragile masculinity of those very very very very straight men who are very very very very concerned about their very very endangered masculinity.
Such a fragile flower is masculinity. It must be preserved at all cost.
I'm running out of time, but this remind me of the "men going their own way" movement. Poor men are always the victims of those evil nasty women, and they are much better off without them. Those women were supposed to solve all of their problems, and instead, they made those men feel less like men. So it must be all the women's fault, because they are men and the fragile bloom or the delicate snowflake of their endangered masculinity must be protected.
Added well after: Jezebel jezebel jezebel=bad wimmens. Save us poor men from bad wimmens. NO HOMO!
Driscoll’s little brain was excited over the performance and he didn’t know how to deal with his self loathing. So he lashed out at the half of the population he hates the most because they’re incapable of giving him pleasure since he’s not allowed the type of pleasure he desires.
It's pretty obvious though, these guys WANT the pole, if you know what I mean. That's cool and all, but you should do that privately...
I'm no psychologist nor psychiatrist nor even a counselor, but I agree with the author here - there's something very strange going on. This is not the Christianity that I was indoctrinated in and then threw off. But hey evolution is a natural process. I wonder how long it will take them to actually get to human sacrifice...
Sounds like ol' Driscoll got hot and bothered, over the performance. Methinks he dost protest too much! Someday we will hear about him getting caught with someone who looks just like the sword swallower, swallowing 'his' sword.
The problem with having massive numbers of wannabe-Alpha males in the same room is that then you've got wannabe-Alpha males in one room. Why anyone is surprised they then turn on each other and attempt various one upsmanship attacks I will never understand.
Truth be told, I've been somewhat surprised that this hasn't happened quite yet with the MAGA crowd, I figure they've just been a bit slow to get to the right point just yet. Here's hoping that implosion happens before November.
One of the last things this country and the wider world needs, is the celebration of toxic masculinity. In my experience these men tend to be looking for a way to justify their worst traits, and their deep seated insecurities, such as those exhibited by many members of the audience.
“Stronger Men’s Conference”
Presented by the He-Man Women Haters Club.
All this incident tells me is that there are hotshot Christians out there who will get bent out of shape about ANYTHING, and then, as in Driscoll's case, make it all about HIM, about his view of the foolishness which is faith, and why people should listen to HIM and not anyone else. Thankfully (and somewhat unbelievably!), someone called Driscoll on it and he begged off.
Still ... anyone wonder why there are over 40,000 Christian denominations? Here's one reason right here.
Jezebel was not who these misogynists say she was, she was not a harlot or seductress, she was a woman facing death with dignity. She’s an easy mark to paint the villain because women aren’t supposed fight back or stand tall in the face of male oppression, they’re supposed to roll over any take it. Any time a woman acts like anything other than a doormat, she’s called a Jezebel. Well, paint my face and call me Jezzie. All women should be proud to be called a Jezebel.
I think this is rather hilarious. If you look at MAGA art of Donald Trump, it's VERY homoerotic.
Maybe Mark felt a little twinge down there and got mad ("I thought Daddy beat that out of me!)?
I have to pack for a trip, so I can't really spend a lot of time on this. But..
As a gay man, who studied this garbage for more than 50 years, this is what I see .
There is such an ongoing homoerotic subtext going on that it is amazingly funny. And I could see why it would cause so much conflict. Here you have a man who is going to swallow a sword--NO HOMO!-- who for no discernible reason is going to rip off his shirt--NO HOMO! and show his fine, well muscled body--NO HOMO!--and slide down a long long long pole --NO HOMO!--at a men only conference--NO HOMO!-- where the major topic of conversation is how hard--NO HOMO!-- it is to be a man in a world that seems intent on robbing them of their masculinity. DOUBLE EXTRA NO HOMO!
The funniest part of this is that it's also obvious. Of course Mark Driscoll has to say something, because only an idiot doesn't see the covert Homo erotic subtext running with all jets going full blast. Driscoll can see it, but he can't actually point to it because:
1) homosexuality does not exist among all these very very very very straight men who are very very very very concerned about their very very very very fragile masculinity.
2) saying that he sees it is a tacit admission that he IS it, because very very very straight men don't see this sort of thing. Only a homo would see it, and NO HOMO!!!!
3) Telling them to see it would be bringing up a great deal that is simply a subtext now, and they only see what they want to see because NO HOMO! You simply cannot bring up that subtext and make it explicit because you will get a lot of people very angry because NO HOMO!
I can't remember whether it's Harold and Maud, or Dr. Strangelove, but I can just hear that priest in the movie going on and on and on about precious bodily fluids.
So, Driscoll Did the very best he could do under the situation to preserve both his own fragile masculinity and the fragile masculinity of those very very very very straight men who are very very very very concerned about their very very endangered masculinity.
Such a fragile flower is masculinity. It must be preserved at all cost.
I'm running out of time, but this remind me of the "men going their own way" movement. Poor men are always the victims of those evil nasty women, and they are much better off without them. Those women were supposed to solve all of their problems, and instead, they made those men feel less like men. So it must be all the women's fault, because they are men and the fragile bloom or the delicate snowflake of their endangered masculinity must be protected.
Added well after: Jezebel jezebel jezebel=bad wimmens. Save us poor men from bad wimmens. NO HOMO!
"See, our God is not arrogant. He doesn't ascend."
Blasphemy. There's literally a thing called the Ascension. Who's the Jezebel now Jezzy boy.
Ass over head swallowing of something dangerous and indigestible is a perfect metaphor for this kind of “men’s conference.”
I imagine there's a lot more sword swallowing at these conferences than they are letting on.
"Stronger Men's Conference" is a suspect name for a gathering of misogynistic snowflakes.
I'd love to see Driscoll get into a match with Ronda Rousey. She'd have him screaming for his mommy.
"Instead, he went with homo-erotic imagery that resembles lady strippers."
Not to mention sword swallowing. What kind of "sword" was Driscoll thinking of, do you suppose?
Driscoll’s little brain was excited over the performance and he didn’t know how to deal with his self loathing. So he lashed out at the half of the population he hates the most because they’re incapable of giving him pleasure since he’s not allowed the type of pleasure he desires.
It's pretty obvious though, these guys WANT the pole, if you know what I mean. That's cool and all, but you should do that privately...
I'm no psychologist nor psychiatrist nor even a counselor, but I agree with the author here - there's something very strange going on. This is not the Christianity that I was indoctrinated in and then threw off. But hey evolution is a natural process. I wonder how long it will take them to actually get to human sacrifice...
Sounds like ol' Driscoll got hot and bothered, over the performance. Methinks he dost protest too much! Someday we will hear about him getting caught with someone who looks just like the sword swallower, swallowing 'his' sword.
The problem with having massive numbers of wannabe-Alpha males in the same room is that then you've got wannabe-Alpha males in one room. Why anyone is surprised they then turn on each other and attempt various one upsmanship attacks I will never understand.
Truth be told, I've been somewhat surprised that this hasn't happened quite yet with the MAGA crowd, I figure they've just been a bit slow to get to the right point just yet. Here's hoping that implosion happens before November.