I have been teaching special education for 23 years. First of all, they are not “special needs students.” They are students with educational disabilities. Every student should be provided a free, appropriate, public education in the least restrictive environment. No students should ever be subjected to corporal punishment. All behavior is communication. Our job is to help children communicate more effectively; not beat them because they lack skills to do so. This man is evil. Tenet three: One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
Evidently, he wants to legalize child abuse in the name of his magic book. The same book that gives tacit approval for rape and human slavery. Any teacher who struck one of my children would have been taking their life into their own hands. I cannot begin to imagine why they think it's ever okay to allow teachers to assault children, especially the disabled, under any circumstances. Then again, there isn't anything that cannot be justified in the name of Jesus.
"Jewish culture, Christian culture, and any common sense culture understands that if you don't discipline children, or you create a class of children that cannot be disciplined, those discipline problems are gonna cascade through the rest of society."
Most Jews I know are against corporal punishment aand would be aghast at your choice to cherry-pick a single verse in Proverbs to support it, dude. I'm also pretty sure they'd be deeply incensed on you weaponizing their entire culture like that, too.
I wish I could even find something to snark about here- how Republicans always find new and fucked up ways to be even worse than we already thought they were, something like that- but this is one bit of awfulness they never even pretended to give up on. They've 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 been in favor of beating children. They literally think it's virtuous.
The GQP 𝘪𝘴 the party of child abuse. They defend corporal punishment; they fight tooth and nail against any effort to ban child marriage; they want to force children to endure pregnancy, no matter how it occurred or how dangerous it is to their health; they roll back laws restricting child labor; they take away school lunches, as though poor children are somehow to blame for their parents' economic circumstances; they replace school counselors with chaplains; they ban books from school libraries; they undermine education especially in science and history; they do everything in their power to stuff LGBTQ kids into either closets or coffins... there is not one single issue on which the Republican position is not diametrically opposed to the best interests of the children whose lives they claim to value. Not. Even. One.
“God's counsel is higher than the American Academy of Pediatrics.”
God’s counsel also described how to beat your slaves, his counsel is shit. There are innumerable instances where God’s counsel has harmed humanity in the Bible and by way of the church and Christians’ actions. We’ve got a couple of millennia worth of history to prove that.
I’m going to listen to the experts on child welfare over a book that was written by people who didn’t know where the sun went at night.
How many times have we seen a child who has finally grown weary of an adult's physical (and even verbal) abuse of them and snaps, resulting in the hospitalization or even the death of the abuser?
That rod of discipline has a tendency to be a boomerang.
(Dr. Spock, by the way, pushed for universal health care, the decriminalization of abortion and homosexuality, guaranteed income for families, and the end to the pointless war in Vietnam.)
There are better ways to discipline a child rather than always spanking them (Grounding them, sending them to the corner, forcing them to stay home rather than allowing them to go somewhere they like, putting them in detention, sending them to their room, not giving them any desert, take internet privileges away from them, etc.). Can't these stupid, delusional men who actually hate children understand this?
Oh, SUPER! Let's train up a child in the way he should go, so that when he's an adult, he won't depart from that way ... even if he or she is a special needs kid who may or may not understand what's going on and cannot make the connection between action and supposed correction. These idiots are so determined to use their holy book to justify violence against minors (and invite who knows how many lawsuits!) that they resort to encoding the bible into law.
To answer the question, NO ... jackasses like Olsen and Randleman DON'T love their kids, not if they treat their own children like they'd have the school kids treated.
When I started teaching high school, around 1980 something the school I worked at had corporal punishment. It was all very formal, you had to have a witness, and you had to write it up in a book. There was one guy I discovered seem to take great pleasure in it – so I refused to be his witness any time. No point in reporting him everyone knew, and none of the authorities seemed to care. But a couple of years later we did a survey and found that 90% of the corporal punishment was being done by one particular guy. The resident jock – the PE teacher who would cane kids for forgetting their gear. So we stopped it. And the sky didn't fall. When we were discussing it I made the point that women teachers were not supposed to do corporal punishment, and seemed to get on okay. In spite of one or two complaints I didn't notice discipline getting any worse. Most of the kids who misbehaved didn't think far enough ahead to figure out consequences. I later moved to a place that had abolished it years ago. No huge problems with that either. But then we didn't have any excessively religious nutcases on the staff saying spare the rod spoil the child. Fuckwits.
I have been teaching special education for 23 years. First of all, they are not “special needs students.” They are students with educational disabilities. Every student should be provided a free, appropriate, public education in the least restrictive environment. No students should ever be subjected to corporal punishment. All behavior is communication. Our job is to help children communicate more effectively; not beat them because they lack skills to do so. This man is evil. Tenet three: One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
Evidently, he wants to legalize child abuse in the name of his magic book. The same book that gives tacit approval for rape and human slavery. Any teacher who struck one of my children would have been taking their life into their own hands. I cannot begin to imagine why they think it's ever okay to allow teachers to assault children, especially the disabled, under any circumstances. Then again, there isn't anything that cannot be justified in the name of Jesus.
So would it be ok for the Parents of those children to Hit Back? Just wondering.
Shane Jett appears to have some difficulties in cognition and reasoning. Someone should beat the crap out of him. To show him some love, of course.
"Jewish culture, Christian culture, and any common sense culture understands that if you don't discipline children, or you create a class of children that cannot be disciplined, those discipline problems are gonna cascade through the rest of society."
Most Jews I know are against corporal punishment aand would be aghast at your choice to cherry-pick a single verse in Proverbs to support it, dude. I'm also pretty sure they'd be deeply incensed on you weaponizing their entire culture like that, too.
Remember, showing kids a book that has two male penguins raising a baby in the zoo is child abuse. But hitting children is not child abuse.
I wish I could even find something to snark about here- how Republicans always find new and fucked up ways to be even worse than we already thought they were, something like that- but this is one bit of awfulness they never even pretended to give up on. They've 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 been in favor of beating children. They literally think it's virtuous.
The GQP 𝘪𝘴 the party of child abuse. They defend corporal punishment; they fight tooth and nail against any effort to ban child marriage; they want to force children to endure pregnancy, no matter how it occurred or how dangerous it is to their health; they roll back laws restricting child labor; they take away school lunches, as though poor children are somehow to blame for their parents' economic circumstances; they replace school counselors with chaplains; they ban books from school libraries; they undermine education especially in science and history; they do everything in their power to stuff LGBTQ kids into either closets or coffins... there is not one single issue on which the Republican position is not diametrically opposed to the best interests of the children whose lives they claim to value. Not. Even. One.
“God's counsel is higher than the American Academy of Pediatrics.”
God’s counsel also described how to beat your slaves, his counsel is shit. There are innumerable instances where God’s counsel has harmed humanity in the Bible and by way of the church and Christians’ actions. We’ve got a couple of millennia worth of history to prove that.
I’m going to listen to the experts on child welfare over a book that was written by people who didn’t know where the sun went at night.
How many times have we seen a child who has finally grown weary of an adult's physical (and even verbal) abuse of them and snaps, resulting in the hospitalization or even the death of the abuser?
That rod of discipline has a tendency to be a boomerang.
(Dr. Spock, by the way, pushed for universal health care, the decriminalization of abortion and homosexuality, guaranteed income for families, and the end to the pointless war in Vietnam.)
What a monster, right?
There are better ways to discipline a child rather than always spanking them (Grounding them, sending them to the corner, forcing them to stay home rather than allowing them to go somewhere they like, putting them in detention, sending them to their room, not giving them any desert, take internet privileges away from them, etc.). Can't these stupid, delusional men who actually hate children understand this?
No, apparently not.
While Oklahoma is debating about when and where to hit and not hit kids, they're ranked 48th in Education. 48th in Health Care, as well. Coincidence?
21 O.S. § 1289.25 (OSCN 2024), Oklahoma Firearms Act of 1971, section D:
"𝐴 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑒𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛 𝑢𝑛𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑓𝑢𝑙 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑑𝑢𝑡𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒, 𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒, 𝑖𝑓 ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑜 𝑠𝑜 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑜𝑟 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑜𝑑𝑖𝑙𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑖𝑚𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓 𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟..."
Stand your ground, kids, stand your ground.
It’s about time religion was classified as a mental illness the same as any other bizarre delusions
Oh, SUPER! Let's train up a child in the way he should go, so that when he's an adult, he won't depart from that way ... even if he or she is a special needs kid who may or may not understand what's going on and cannot make the connection between action and supposed correction. These idiots are so determined to use their holy book to justify violence against minors (and invite who knows how many lawsuits!) that they resort to encoding the bible into law.
𝐴𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛?
To answer the question, NO ... jackasses like Olsen and Randleman DON'T love their kids, not if they treat their own children like they'd have the school kids treated.
When I started teaching high school, around 1980 something the school I worked at had corporal punishment. It was all very formal, you had to have a witness, and you had to write it up in a book. There was one guy I discovered seem to take great pleasure in it – so I refused to be his witness any time. No point in reporting him everyone knew, and none of the authorities seemed to care. But a couple of years later we did a survey and found that 90% of the corporal punishment was being done by one particular guy. The resident jock – the PE teacher who would cane kids for forgetting their gear. So we stopped it. And the sky didn't fall. When we were discussing it I made the point that women teachers were not supposed to do corporal punishment, and seemed to get on okay. In spite of one or two complaints I didn't notice discipline getting any worse. Most of the kids who misbehaved didn't think far enough ahead to figure out consequences. I later moved to a place that had abolished it years ago. No huge problems with that either. But then we didn't have any excessively religious nutcases on the staff saying spare the rod spoil the child. Fuckwits.