Evangelical Christianity and far right-wing Roman Catholicism have managed to completely erase the concept of 'live and let live' from the social landscape. They and the rethugs have also managed to extirpate 'the common good' from the whole US political dialogue - effectively taking White Out to the preamble of the Constitution. Strong religion is the cause of much which is wrong with the modern world as it ever has been.
It seems like the people who scream loudest about marriage being between one man and one woman usually have a side piece, or two. Or 5 marriages. Or murdering your wife so you can be with your girlfriend.
Scratch a conservative christian, find a hypocrite. If it isn't multiple marriages or extra-marital carrying on, it's dating drag queens, shacking up with rentboys in cheap motels, or some combination of the above. If there ever was a Jesus Christ, and if (joke) he never really rose from the dead, his moldering bones must be spinning like a goddamn top.
Yeah, if he actually existed, and half the things said about him are true, he is spinning in his grave fast enough to solve the energy crisis over what's been done in his name over the last 20 centuries.
In the light of all this, I'd like to reprint something I wrote a few years ago, with Kim Davis and others like her in mind:
This is an open letter to people who work for the government officially on our behalf, anyone from a cop to a president. This is addressed to those who serve in our government, yet cannot separate their job from their belief system. I’m thinking especially of those people who are convinced that the United States is a Christian nation.
I just have a little something to say. This won’t take long:
“David Ermold and David Moore are still trying to capitalize on the brief moment of fame they engineered back in 2015.”
Sure, they engineered some fame by choosing to get married and following the law. As if they chose to go to Davis, they were required to. As if they knew ahead of time that she’d refuse them. Or that they forced her to reject their lawful request. She did that in her own. The only person engineering fame, and benefitting from said notoriety is Davis herself. Even with this ruling, even though she lost and has to pay, she’s back in the news and making money off her name.
What does the couple get from all this? $100,000 doesn’t come to much after taxes and fees, and folks don’t know them by sight or name, they only know them as the couple that were refused by Kim Davis. She’s still the biggest part of their lives when all they wanted was a life together.
Engineered fame. Projection, thy name is Liberty Counsel.
Her 15 minutes were up 7 years ago. Unlike Michael Douglas, she didn't forget to do her job, she just decided she didn't want to do it, but still wanted her paycheck. "Nice work if you can get it. And if you get it, won't you tell me how?" - Cybil Shepard.
I'll stick with raindrops on rosebuds and whiskers on kittens.... Even though I'll take Rodgers and Hart over Rodgers and Hammerstein any day of the week.
Ugh, I had forgotten about this wretched woman. I'm glad she lost, but like Hemant alluded to this is going to be good for her brand. She's a martyr now, books and tv shows and podcasts with crazy women who hallucinate Jello barns. She won't have any real comeuppance, which just sucks.
Shortly after all this went down, I was pulled in for inspection at the weigh station in that county. I mentioned it to the officer doing the inspection, and she could see through Davis' bullshit.
The one and only time in my life where I was solicited for a bribe (I’m pretty sure that’s what was going on although it took me about a year to realize it) was in TN when I was pulled over by a state trooper for speeding on the Natchez Trace Parkway. I was indeed speeding.
Except that in this case and others, she was NOT being sued for her faith. Kim Davis was being sued for her ACTION, or really, lack of action in refusing marriage licenses to gay couples. I genuinely wonder if it has sunk in on her that she can have her faith all she wants; she just doesn't get to map her faith onto others in a publicly funded position. A long time ago, I wrote that anyone working for the public has a primary obligation TO THE LAW. Not to the bible or their own personal faith, but to the law of the land, local, state and federal.
Kim Davis thought her faith superseded that. She was wrong.
I am not sure how much it will actually cost her. The insular faith community into which she has ensconced herself will believe her victim blaming bullshit, and the grift will likely pay the bills.
Here’s a nice scenario. Liberty Counsel raises, oh, $300,000 for her $100,000 damages. They pay the couple the award and then Davis sues them for the other $200,000.
I really should have been a lawyer. In fact, I always said that if I won a huge lottery, I would start a non-profit, hire some lawyers, and make it my mission to sue assholes. “Your want to settle? Sorry, my goal is to put you thru maximum pain for being an asshole.”
"So she wasn’t a hypocrite, everyone; she just wasn’t really a Christian yet."
Ah. I see. So Davis asserts that as a person, as a human being she has no responsibility to others and no moral principles that she either fulfills or fails to fulfill; she's not IMmoral, she's Amoral. She thinks her being a human being has no moral obligations built into it. She's saying that she's only capable of hypocrisy or any other moral failing when she has adopted her extremely legalistic version of Christianity. Yet even now she's still trying to get out of her obligations, because somehow they're still irrelevant to whatever she says her god wants.
That's abjectly irresponsible, and so morally shallow it's not even flat. She makes a piece of paper look deep by comparison. Davis is a good example of why Christianity is dying in the U.S. and when it's finally gone, it won't be missed.
Hate Group Leader, Mad Mat Staver (Liberty Counsel) is displeased (the poor bigot):
"Liberty Counsel will file a judgment notwithstanding the verdict to U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning next week in response to the jury rendering $100,000 against former Rowan County Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis in Ermold v. Davis. Essentially, the jury had no basis or evidence to support their verdict."
Liberty Counsel, by the way, is yet another Christian pressure group treated as a church by the IRS which means no annual report is required. I reached out to Ron Klain in frustration but he has moved on, replaced by Jeff Zients.
How the fuck is a law firm, even a Christian law firm, a church?
Okay, the thought of Barton as a HS science teacher is even scarier than the thought of him as a historian. He is emphatically not qualified for either.
I wasn't. My 1st after-school job involved cleaning toilets, which I'd never done before. I didn't realise you had to clean below the water level. I kind of thought the water did that. The foreman said something like "Jesus Christ son, you might be a bloody genius at school, but you're a lousy shit house cleaner." I very quickly improve my game after that. No one wants to be considered a lousy shit house cleaner. 😁
In other news, super Duper Christian and family values advocate Dakota Governor Kristi Noem has, while married to someone else, been carrying on affair with Trump butt sniffer Corey Lewandowski, according to a news article I just read. If this is true, one with almost think that Christian family values include lying, fornication, adultery, reviling, slandering, fornication, adultery, hypocrisy, faux moral outrage, fornication, adultery, and extramarital sex.
You also forgot the time-honored christian practice of shacking up with teenage rentboys in sleazy motels, but I guess since Noem is a woman she can't be expected to do that one. (I hope.)
Well, I don't know about you, but if I was going to be an immoral and hypocritical Christian, I probably want to shack up with teenage boys. Or at least with Ryan Reynolds.
I can confirm, see my comment about my 'catholic' grandmother. TBH it wasn't entirely her fault women in her family were not good to follow societal norms for women.
Hey look, you gays. As I representative of the local consortium of Christian Churches, I have to warn you. Taking money from mouth beathing bigots is our racket. Don't even think about trying to muscle in on our turf. We've been fleecing these inbred, chew-swallowing suckers longer than you've been alive. And it's going to stay that way. So if this cousin-marrying Davis has a 100,000 dollars, it's ours. Not yours. Understand?
Bible and science should never be next to one another in the same sentence.
Saturn's 6th-largest moon Enceladus is an active moon hiding a global ocean of salty water. The icy particles it spews into space contain phosphorus, a pre-requisite for life. Tell me: Where does the bible mention Enceladus? For that matter, where does it mention Saturn? Need I say more?
That's the one I'd like to go to, I have a much better grasp on geology and the physical sciences. Not that I would go with the intent of pointing out how wrong they were or anything. Never.
These people are clearly deluded. Dinosaurs never existed. They are a big fat hoax. The marvelously intelligent group Christians Against Dinosaurs has the proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyIG_jZzBs
My first clue that Sunday school and regular school were at odds was first grade. Our first-grade teacher had created this fascinating display of dinosaurs on one wall. I was a little scared at first, because my only previous exposure to dinosaur-like creatures was saturday afternoon TV movies like Reptilicus; I was quite relieved when she told us that they had all died out a long time ago.
Fast forward to a few weeks later in Sunday School, where this week's lesson is all about Naoh's Ark, and all the animals boarding two by two. I made what I thought was an incredibly brilliant connection and blurted out, "That's when all the dinosaurs died out! The flood killed 'em all!"
If looks could kill...
I was informed in a rather stern voice that There-is-no-such-thing-as-dinosaurs-young-lady-that-is-a-big-fat-lie-Satan-tells-people-to-make-believe-in-wickedness-like evolution.
Evolution. The dreaded E-word. I didn't know what it meant, but I had heard the word bandied about by grown-ups enough to know that it was BAAAAAAAAAAAD. A wall of faces stared and me and giggled while I tried to make myself very small in my seat.
Fast forward to a few weeks later and I'm sitting in my first-grade class when the subject of dinosaurs comes up again. Everybody else eagerly joined in, raising their hands and asking questions. I wanted to warn them all not to believe it because it was a lie from Satan. After sitting there tensely while the Q&A went on, I finally raised my hand. As I did so, I flashed back upon the stern lecture from the Sunday school teacher and the wall of laughing faces and yanked my hand back down so fast I banged the shit out of my funny bone on the edge of my desk.
I never dared ask anyone to clarify things for me, so I spent the next few months trying to reason it out on my own. Once I moved up to second grade, I tossed the dinosaur question into my deal-with-it-later pile. I suppose, as I grew older, that I eventually learned to compartmentalize and shut off my church brain whenever I had to study and dinosaurs and evolution in a science class.
Yeah, not surprised about that. Maybe a little surprised that the community college would host it. There aren't a whole lot of places to put on events around here and I don't think they would have any grounds to refuse it.
Liberty Counsel. Suggested more than once that pro-gay organizations be boycotted while simultaneously whining that gays are using boycotts to push for equal treatment. They scream about what they falsely call economic terrorism while trying to nudge others into actually practicing economic terrorism.
If this were 10 years ago, I'd say the punitive aspect sounds in the ballpark. Compensating for the harm the couple suffered is a whole different story though. But regarding the punitive aspect, it has to really hurt. These types operate in this gray area, where sure there are rights, but wink wink. In the same way that those jelly bean tests were just to make sure that the voter had the three R's and could read the ballot. If she were paying this as an individual, it is enough to really hurt and make it real. If you are going to get your wages garnished for years, have to sell or refinance your house, tap 401K, etc, that would do wonders to make the idea of constitutional rights, and the idea of the law being real, and not this thing that people nudge each other and wink about, a bit less abstract.
The reason I think it would have been fair 10 years ago, but not today, is crowdfunding. There are so many bigots out there that will stand up for her "taking one for the team" that she could have that 100K in a matter of days. It's not a punishment at all, except to her pride. Kyle Rittenhouse, after literally murdering two protestors, raised 2 million, because call a spade a spade, he did what his supporters wished they could do, but didn't dare.
Evangelical Christianity and far right-wing Roman Catholicism have managed to completely erase the concept of 'live and let live' from the social landscape. They and the rethugs have also managed to extirpate 'the common good' from the whole US political dialogue - effectively taking White Out to the preamble of the Constitution. Strong religion is the cause of much which is wrong with the modern world as it ever has been.
This is being exacerbated by the way the churches are being distilled down to the true believers as people desert the churches in droves.
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Agreed, you’ll get no argument from me...:)
It seems like the people who scream loudest about marriage being between one man and one woman usually have a side piece, or two. Or 5 marriages. Or murdering your wife so you can be with your girlfriend.
Scratch a conservative christian, find a hypocrite. If it isn't multiple marriages or extra-marital carrying on, it's dating drag queens, shacking up with rentboys in cheap motels, or some combination of the above. If there ever was a Jesus Christ, and if (joke) he never really rose from the dead, his moldering bones must be spinning like a goddamn top.
Yeah, if he actually existed, and half the things said about him are true, he is spinning in his grave fast enough to solve the energy crisis over what's been done in his name over the last 20 centuries.
I don't know, he also said a lot of horrible shit. He'd probably feel right at home as another token MAGAt
In the light of all this, I'd like to reprint something I wrote a few years ago, with Kim Davis and others like her in mind:
This is an open letter to people who work for the government officially on our behalf, anyone from a cop to a president. This is addressed to those who serve in our government, yet cannot separate their job from their belief system. I’m thinking especially of those people who are convinced that the United States is a Christian nation.
I just have a little something to say. This won’t take long:
𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑟𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛, 𝐽𝑒𝑤, 𝑀𝑢𝑠𝑙𝑖𝑚, 𝑀𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑜𝑛, 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑝 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑜𝑚 𝑎𝑠 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡, 𝑜𝑟 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑎 𝑏𝑎𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎 𝑔𝑢𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑜 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑜𝑟 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑜𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑜𝑙𝑒, 𝒀𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝑶𝑵𝑳𝒀 𝑶𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑰𝒔 𝑻𝒐 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑳𝑨𝑾. 𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑄𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑟 𝐵ℎ𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑣𝑎𝑑 𝐺𝑖𝑡𝑎 𝑜𝑟 𝐵𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑜𝑓 𝑀𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑯𝑨𝑺 𝑵𝑶 𝑷𝑳𝑨𝑪𝑬 ... 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑠 𝑜𝑟 𝑚𝑎𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑛𝑜 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑓 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑔𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑙. 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒, 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑢𝑝𝑜𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑵𝑬𝑼𝑻𝑹𝑨𝑳.
𝐼𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 𝑑𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ... 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦. 𝑃𝐸𝑅𝐼𝑂𝐷.
“David Ermold and David Moore are still trying to capitalize on the brief moment of fame they engineered back in 2015.”
Sure, they engineered some fame by choosing to get married and following the law. As if they chose to go to Davis, they were required to. As if they knew ahead of time that she’d refuse them. Or that they forced her to reject their lawful request. She did that in her own. The only person engineering fame, and benefitting from said notoriety is Davis herself. Even with this ruling, even though she lost and has to pay, she’s back in the news and making money off her name.
What does the couple get from all this? $100,000 doesn’t come to much after taxes and fees, and folks don’t know them by sight or name, they only know them as the couple that were refused by Kim Davis. She’s still the biggest part of their lives when all they wanted was a life together.
Engineered fame. Projection, thy name is Liberty Counsel.
Imagine only being famous because you were an asshole to people, on what should've been the happiest day of their lives, for no good reason at all.
Her 15 minutes were up 7 years ago. Unlike Michael Douglas, she didn't forget to do her job, she just decided she didn't want to do it, but still wanted her paycheck. "Nice work if you can get it. And if you get it, won't you tell me how?" - Cybil Shepard.
Gershwin.
I love a Gershwin tune. How about you?
Oh, HELL, yeah ... and ol' Bill Bolcom did a job with him, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d49SwnJPO-4
I'll stick with raindrops on rosebuds and whiskers on kittens.... Even though I'll take Rodgers and Hart over Rodgers and Hammerstein any day of the week.
Rodger and David? (Waters and Gilmour)
Love Gershwin, but Cole Porter is DeLovely, always.
You misspelled Rammstein.
*Hobble*
So you're saying you disapprove of my plan to show naked baby pics of my kid at his college graduation?
He may skip Xmas and Thanksgiving that year.
Put it on his cake.
In Jesusland? Srsly? That's exactly the kind of thing that gets valued there.
She's Christian, what do you expect?
Ugh, I had forgotten about this wretched woman. I'm glad she lost, but like Hemant alluded to this is going to be good for her brand. She's a martyr now, books and tv shows and podcasts with crazy women who hallucinate Jello barns. She won't have any real comeuppance, which just sucks.
I can visualize her in the next "God's Not Dead" movie, played by Kevin Sorbo in drag.
Drag is 𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒍. A godly man like Kevin wouldn't be caught dead in a dress. They'll get Kirk's sister Candace to play her.
She can now play the poor persecuted victim of the godless left.
Shortly after all this went down, I was pulled in for inspection at the weigh station in that county. I mentioned it to the officer doing the inspection, and she could see through Davis' bullshit.
How much does Kim Davis weigh? Was that with or without her Christian baggage in tow?
I am not sure, but if you include the Christian baggage I would need an oversize permit.
I think you should break her up in parts. He head alone may make the trip impossible...:)
I didn't think those were road safe....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter?wprov=sfla1
The one and only time in my life where I was solicited for a bribe (I’m pretty sure that’s what was going on although it took me about a year to realize it) was in TN when I was pulled over by a state trooper for speeding on the Natchez Trace Parkway. I was indeed speeding.
It couldn't happened to a better person. Still sad about the other couple mentioned in the article in the comment on the previous post.
To be specific, it wouldn't have happened to a better person.
A better person wouldn't have done what she did.
𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑠𝑢𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ.
Except that in this case and others, she was NOT being sued for her faith. Kim Davis was being sued for her ACTION, or really, lack of action in refusing marriage licenses to gay couples. I genuinely wonder if it has sunk in on her that she can have her faith all she wants; she just doesn't get to map her faith onto others in a publicly funded position. A long time ago, I wrote that anyone working for the public has a primary obligation TO THE LAW. Not to the bible or their own personal faith, but to the law of the land, local, state and federal.
Kim Davis thought her faith superseded that. She was wrong.
It makes no difference for her.
Oh, I'm sure it doesn't. It has and will COST HER, however, and that price will be HIGH.
I am not sure how much it will actually cost her. The insular faith community into which she has ensconced herself will believe her victim blaming bullshit, and the grift will likely pay the bills.
How much time will the money pouring and in which pocket ? Liberty counsel will probably takes the biggest share.
She doesn't need to see any of the cash, as long as the judgement gets paid. Of course "Liberty" Counsel will try to weasel out of that.
Here’s a nice scenario. Liberty Counsel raises, oh, $300,000 for her $100,000 damages. They pay the couple the award and then Davis sues them for the other $200,000.
I really should have been a lawyer. In fact, I always said that if I won a huge lottery, I would start a non-profit, hire some lawyers, and make it my mission to sue assholes. “Your want to settle? Sorry, my goal is to put you thru maximum pain for being an asshole.”
"So she wasn’t a hypocrite, everyone; she just wasn’t really a Christian yet."
Ah. I see. So Davis asserts that as a person, as a human being she has no responsibility to others and no moral principles that she either fulfills or fails to fulfill; she's not IMmoral, she's Amoral. She thinks her being a human being has no moral obligations built into it. She's saying that she's only capable of hypocrisy or any other moral failing when she has adopted her extremely legalistic version of Christianity. Yet even now she's still trying to get out of her obligations, because somehow they're still irrelevant to whatever she says her god wants.
That's abjectly irresponsible, and so morally shallow it's not even flat. She makes a piece of paper look deep by comparison. Davis is a good example of why Christianity is dying in the U.S. and when it's finally gone, it won't be missed.
Hate Group Leader, Mad Mat Staver (Liberty Counsel) is displeased (the poor bigot):
"Liberty Counsel will file a judgment notwithstanding the verdict to U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning next week in response to the jury rendering $100,000 against former Rowan County Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis in Ermold v. Davis. Essentially, the jury had no basis or evidence to support their verdict."
Liberty Counsel, by the way, is yet another Christian pressure group treated as a church by the IRS which means no annual report is required. I reached out to Ron Klain in frustration but he has moved on, replaced by Jeff Zients.
How the fuck is a law firm, even a Christian law firm, a church?
𝐻𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑐𝑘 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑚, 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑎 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑚, 𝑎 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ?
Three words: Christian Fucking Privilege.
Same way a christian junior high science teacher qualifies as a historian?
Okay, the thought of Barton as a HS science teacher is even scarier than the thought of him as a historian. He is emphatically not qualified for either.
I can't imagine any school other than a christian one hiring him to so much as clean the bathrooms.
Would he be competent enough for that ?
I wasn't. My 1st after-school job involved cleaning toilets, which I'd never done before. I didn't realise you had to clean below the water level. I kind of thought the water did that. The foreman said something like "Jesus Christ son, you might be a bloody genius at school, but you're a lousy shit house cleaner." I very quickly improve my game after that. No one wants to be considered a lousy shit house cleaner. 😁
Sure. It'd be simple for him. He'd probably use his tongue.
OMG I just lost my appetite 🤢
Okay, the words "Christian" and "science" should be used extremely cautiously. And probably never together.
If you can't use these words together, how do you talk about Mary Baker Eddy?
Cautiously.
A law firm full of lawyers raking in money is treated as a church...wow. Does that mean they are not taxed either?
In other news, super Duper Christian and family values advocate Dakota Governor Kristi Noem has, while married to someone else, been carrying on affair with Trump butt sniffer Corey Lewandowski, according to a news article I just read. If this is true, one with almost think that Christian family values include lying, fornication, adultery, reviling, slandering, fornication, adultery, hypocrisy, faux moral outrage, fornication, adultery, and extramarital sex.
Don't forget fornication and adultery.
If I did that, I would have to forget the family values type Kristi noem is fornicating and adulterous.
You also forgot the time-honored christian practice of shacking up with teenage rentboys in sleazy motels, but I guess since Noem is a woman she can't be expected to do that one. (I hope.)
Well, I don't know about you, but if I was going to be an immoral and hypocritical Christian, I probably want to shack up with teenage boys. Or at least with Ryan Reynolds.
I don't know they're fun to look at, but I have no idea how to relate to someone who never threw a Rubik's cube across the room in frustration.
What is a rubiks cube. Is this ome of those ancient magical devices, like a dial phone or arecord player?
You forgot slandering at least 3 more times and dehumanizing at least 4.
But I didn't forget fornicating adultery, so I should get some credit for that.
I can confirm, see my comment about my 'catholic' grandmother. TBH it wasn't entirely her fault women in her family were not good to follow societal norms for women.
Dammit I just posted that. But to be fair 6 hours ago I was asleep.
You have to get up pretty early in the morning to beat me to this sort of thing. But you didn't, blanche, you didn't. Get up earlier next time.
Hey look, you gays. As I representative of the local consortium of Christian Churches, I have to warn you. Taking money from mouth beathing bigots is our racket. Don't even think about trying to muscle in on our turf. We've been fleecing these inbred, chew-swallowing suckers longer than you've been alive. And it's going to stay that way. So if this cousin-marrying Davis has a 100,000 dollars, it's ours. Not yours. Understand?
Herewith, a photo of a typical christian church: https://media.sketchfab.com/models/3ab80845f5174075812d8521ed76fc0f/thumbnails/7baac31888a14e0cac08c137de0310b0/be8973ae48214b7fbba0a8d9d3caebb6.jpeg
And a typical christian pastor: http://everygeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Scrooge-McDuck-Money-Bin-1000x562.jpg
https://imgur.com/gallery/KpMuFUi
with dialogue...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NC3CN21Cws
Chaw, not chew.
"not chew"? Gesundheit!
What do you call someone else's cheese? Nacho cheese.
What kind of business is mine? Nunya business.
That is a running gag in the comic strip 𝐷𝑖𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝐿𝑖𝑙.
OT: Ugh, not far from me, but I'm busy. Otherwise I'd consider going.
https://allevents.in/cheyenne/dinosaurs-connecting-the-dots-between-the-bible-and-science/200025230187855
I saw a commercial on TV with a website, but I don't remember it and I can't find anything else.
*Rub her eyes*
Can someone can confirm if I am awake ?
Bible and science should never be next to one another in the same sentence.
Saturn's 6th-largest moon Enceladus is an active moon hiding a global ocean of salty water. The icy particles it spews into space contain phosphorus, a pre-requisite for life. Tell me: Where does the bible mention Enceladus? For that matter, where does it mention Saturn? Need I say more?
At the time the bible was written (by God himself), the earth was flat. Anybody who questioned this was put to death.
"Saturday, Sept 16 at 6:45 p.m. - Human Evolution, Really?"
Yes, really.
Saturday, Sept 16 at 5:30 p.m. - THE FLOOD: Lessons From A Global Disaster
(Of mythological proportions!)
That's the one I'd like to go to, I have a much better grasp on geology and the physical sciences. Not that I would go with the intent of pointing out how wrong they were or anything. Never.
The lesson? How to steal earlier myths from other cultures and one-up them.
These people are clearly deluded. Dinosaurs never existed. They are a big fat hoax. The marvelously intelligent group Christians Against Dinosaurs has the proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyIG_jZzBs
My first clue that Sunday school and regular school were at odds was first grade. Our first-grade teacher had created this fascinating display of dinosaurs on one wall. I was a little scared at first, because my only previous exposure to dinosaur-like creatures was saturday afternoon TV movies like Reptilicus; I was quite relieved when she told us that they had all died out a long time ago.
Fast forward to a few weeks later in Sunday School, where this week's lesson is all about Naoh's Ark, and all the animals boarding two by two. I made what I thought was an incredibly brilliant connection and blurted out, "That's when all the dinosaurs died out! The flood killed 'em all!"
If looks could kill...
I was informed in a rather stern voice that There-is-no-such-thing-as-dinosaurs-young-lady-that-is-a-big-fat-lie-Satan-tells-people-to-make-believe-in-wickedness-like evolution.
Evolution. The dreaded E-word. I didn't know what it meant, but I had heard the word bandied about by grown-ups enough to know that it was BAAAAAAAAAAAD. A wall of faces stared and me and giggled while I tried to make myself very small in my seat.
Fast forward to a few weeks later and I'm sitting in my first-grade class when the subject of dinosaurs comes up again. Everybody else eagerly joined in, raising their hands and asking questions. I wanted to warn them all not to believe it because it was a lie from Satan. After sitting there tensely while the Q&A went on, I finally raised my hand. As I did so, I flashed back upon the stern lecture from the Sunday school teacher and the wall of laughing faces and yanked my hand back down so fast I banged the shit out of my funny bone on the edge of my desk.
I never dared ask anyone to clarify things for me, so I spent the next few months trying to reason it out on my own. Once I moved up to second grade, I tossed the dinosaur question into my deal-with-it-later pile. I suppose, as I grew older, that I eventually learned to compartmentalize and shut off my church brain whenever I had to study and dinosaurs and evolution in a science class.
Put on by the Cheyenne SDA Church...go figure.
Yeah, not surprised about that. Maybe a little surprised that the community college would host it. There aren't a whole lot of places to put on events around here and I don't think they would have any grounds to refuse it.
Liberty Counsel. Suggested more than once that pro-gay organizations be boycotted while simultaneously whining that gays are using boycotts to push for equal treatment. They scream about what they falsely call economic terrorism while trying to nudge others into actually practicing economic terrorism.
Has IMAX sued for patent infringement yet?
I think they're trying to nudge people into terrorism period, like the Target incident this past June.
If this were 10 years ago, I'd say the punitive aspect sounds in the ballpark. Compensating for the harm the couple suffered is a whole different story though. But regarding the punitive aspect, it has to really hurt. These types operate in this gray area, where sure there are rights, but wink wink. In the same way that those jelly bean tests were just to make sure that the voter had the three R's and could read the ballot. If she were paying this as an individual, it is enough to really hurt and make it real. If you are going to get your wages garnished for years, have to sell or refinance your house, tap 401K, etc, that would do wonders to make the idea of constitutional rights, and the idea of the law being real, and not this thing that people nudge each other and wink about, a bit less abstract.
The reason I think it would have been fair 10 years ago, but not today, is crowdfunding. There are so many bigots out there that will stand up for her "taking one for the team" that she could have that 100K in a matter of days. It's not a punishment at all, except to her pride. Kyle Rittenhouse, after literally murdering two protestors, raised 2 million, because call a spade a spade, he did what his supporters wished they could do, but didn't dare.