Translation: "It is my intention to insulate the parishioners of this diocese from ANYTHING or ANYONE who does not conform to our doctrine and dogma, despite the fact that they may encounter such people in their day-to-day lives."
To Mr Held (I will NOT call that jackass "father"): you complain about a gay man reading to kids when there are very possibly priests in or near your parish who have RAPED young children and been moved to other locations to avoid investigation or prosecution. Judging from Thrasher's statement, his audience was thrilled at his performance and thought it not at all problematic, whereas all you can see is his sexual orientation, and therewith react in a knee-jerk (emphasis on JERK!) fashion.
And now you have resigned from that parish. Here's hoping that your next assignment has been made aware of your behavior and deals with you appropriately (as if! [sigh]).
The commencement speaker at my Law School graduation was selected because (and not despite) the fact that he had authored the statute banning LGBTQ people from adopting or fostering children. (Even blood relatives.) At the time, the stateβs largest newspaper quipped: Allowing homosexuals to raise kids is the equivalent of allowing them to raise their own meat.
I objected to his invitation then, as did a few others. But the Administration did not care that he was openly homophobic. To the people who invited him - my classmates - his homophobia was the incentive to invite him. This was neither isolated nor incidental. I had had multiple prior humiliating encounters with these people. Including behavior that never would have been tolerated had it been anti-Christian. This was a secular school. Yet, the excuse I was given was that Christians had the religious right to discriminate against homosexuals. No, not a joke. I stopped complaining because the schoolβs attitude was that I ought to be grateful to even be there.
I will never forget the shame, anger & humiliation I felt on a day that shouldβve been joyful. I will never forget the many occasions that I was mocked and degraded. It began even before my first day of law school.
This was a few decades ago but the homophobia/racism/bigotry persists. If anything - TODAY they are proud of it. A word to the wise: we who do not fall into the demographic of male, white, straight, and Christian are in serious jeopardy. It is true that we have had marriage equality for a few years. But we have been a democracy far longer and are a hair's breadth away from losing that. Democracy requires accepting that all are created equal; conservatives have never believed that. Never.
Never underestimate the power conservatives wield. NEVER! The institutions you believe will protect your fundamental human rights have been dismantled. They are empty shells. This SCOTUS will never place the rights of minorities on the same level as rights of Christians. Sitting justices believe that our very existence persecutes Christians.
The absolute fucking irony of a Catholic priest insinuating that a gay man would be a danger to children. I mean, there's π±π³π°π«π¦π€π΅πͺπ°π―... and then there's IMAX in 3D smell-o-vision with force-feedback seating. Methinks the FBI could do to have a look at Father Held's hard drive...
Given the Catholic Church's history of child abuse and protecting pedophile priests, the hypocrisy on display here is just mind-numbing. People need to do more than withdraw their children from this school, they need to put the church in their rear-view mirrors.
"f the new rule is that practicing Catholics arenβt allowed to breathe the same air as LGBTQ people, then Pope Francis ought to come out and say that." If all of the Vatican's homosexual priests at once filled their lungs with air the Vatican would become a perfect vacuum.
Gosh, and he didn't even put on a costume to read to the kiddies. Seems it's not just from priests being pissed because the readers have nicer dresses and wear them better.
The division, lack of charity and the wounds caused by the division in the St. Joseph the Worker Parish community has brought deep sadness to the Lord Jesus..."
"Jesus weeps when he sees division and disunity in the Body of Christ, his Church."
How the hell does he know Jesus is sad or that he weeps? Did Jesus talk directly to the bishop or is he just guessing how he feels?
These guys use this woo woo to placate the believers all the time...takes a lot of nerve.
Ah yes, the old βyouβre dividing the group by defending the people we hate for no reasonβ trope. The βeverything was fine before those people wanted equal rightsβ thinking. Keep the peace ideals only help the oppressors. It only works when you donβt see the humanity of the oppressed group. The parents defending the author are at fault for the division because theyβre rocking the boat. The few parents who complained a gay entered the school and Fr Held were only doing what was acceptable for so long. How dare people try to make life better for everyone, itβs only supposed to be bearable for the select few, cis-het, white, Christian, men. Everyone else stay in your place, stop making everything political and pushing cancel culture.
Still waiting for Christians...ANY Christians...to read the 4 gospels and tell us where Jesus condemned homosexuality.
Aside from the fact that Christians don't really read the bible, it might be kind of tough for them to show such condemnation for homosexuality, as sexual orientation was not understood in biblical times. Even the word "homosexual" wasn't coined until 1868 by Karl-Maria Ketenby in a letter to Karl-Heinrich Ulrichs. And "homosexuality" never appeared in the bible until the Revised Standard Version until 1946.
Accountability may, eventually, βcost moneyβ, so, no accountability.
I would bet my entire retirement, no - my actual life that the Catholic Church ran an analysis on whether settling with their abuse victims - or having them murdered - would be more cost efficient. At least in the US. Iβm sure they kill more openly (i.e., traditionally) in other places.
I have no doubts these American Bishops have, and continuously do, advocate for violent acts in the name of power. They havenβt figured out a way where it doesnβt get traced back to them, yet.
"The division, lack of charity and the wounds caused by the division in the St. Joseph the Worker Parish community has brought deep sadness to the Lord Jesus"
And you know this how? Did Jessie reply to the priest's Faceborg post? Or on Xitter? Or are you just pulling something out of your ass (you know, just like your entire religion)?
πβπ πππ πππ€π ππ π‘βππ‘ ππ πππ ππ π πππππππ βππ πππ ππ‘πππ ππ π‘βπ π·πππππ π βππ ππππ ππ’π‘ πππ ππππππππ§ππ πππ π€βππ‘ βπ πππ π‘π πβπππ βππ. ππ πππ π€πππ πππππ‘ π»πππβπ π π‘ππ‘πππππ‘ π€ππ πππ ππ’π π‘πππ πππ ππππππππππππ‘π. ππ πππ π€πππ ππ βπππ πππππ’ππ‘ππππ πππ π‘βπ πππ‘ππ π‘ π π‘πππ ππ π‘βπ πΆβπ’ππββπ ππππ’π‘ππ‘πππ.
So, a day ending in "y".
π΄π π¦ππ’π πππ π‘ππ πΌ π€πππ π ππ π‘π ππ‘ π‘βππ‘ π πππ€ π£ππ‘π‘πππ ππππππ¦ ππ ππ’π‘ ππ πππππ ππ πππππ π‘π πππππππ§π πππ¦π‘βπππ ππ π‘βπ π πππ‘ ππππ βππππππππ πππππ ππ π‘βπ ππ’π‘π’ππ.
Translation: "It is my intention to insulate the parishioners of this diocese from ANYTHING or ANYONE who does not conform to our doctrine and dogma, despite the fact that they may encounter such people in their day-to-day lives."
To Mr Held (I will NOT call that jackass "father"): you complain about a gay man reading to kids when there are very possibly priests in or near your parish who have RAPED young children and been moved to other locations to avoid investigation or prosecution. Judging from Thrasher's statement, his audience was thrilled at his performance and thought it not at all problematic, whereas all you can see is his sexual orientation, and therewith react in a knee-jerk (emphasis on JERK!) fashion.
And now you have resigned from that parish. Here's hoping that your next assignment has been made aware of your behavior and deals with you appropriately (as if! [sigh]).
If Jesus really cared, he could have stopped the reading before it happened. He didn't, so he must have approved.
The commencement speaker at my Law School graduation was selected because (and not despite) the fact that he had authored the statute banning LGBTQ people from adopting or fostering children. (Even blood relatives.) At the time, the stateβs largest newspaper quipped: Allowing homosexuals to raise kids is the equivalent of allowing them to raise their own meat.
I objected to his invitation then, as did a few others. But the Administration did not care that he was openly homophobic. To the people who invited him - my classmates - his homophobia was the incentive to invite him. This was neither isolated nor incidental. I had had multiple prior humiliating encounters with these people. Including behavior that never would have been tolerated had it been anti-Christian. This was a secular school. Yet, the excuse I was given was that Christians had the religious right to discriminate against homosexuals. No, not a joke. I stopped complaining because the schoolβs attitude was that I ought to be grateful to even be there.
I will never forget the shame, anger & humiliation I felt on a day that shouldβve been joyful. I will never forget the many occasions that I was mocked and degraded. It began even before my first day of law school.
This was a few decades ago but the homophobia/racism/bigotry persists. If anything - TODAY they are proud of it. A word to the wise: we who do not fall into the demographic of male, white, straight, and Christian are in serious jeopardy. It is true that we have had marriage equality for a few years. But we have been a democracy far longer and are a hair's breadth away from losing that. Democracy requires accepting that all are created equal; conservatives have never believed that. Never.
Never underestimate the power conservatives wield. NEVER! The institutions you believe will protect your fundamental human rights have been dismantled. They are empty shells. This SCOTUS will never place the rights of minorities on the same level as rights of Christians. Sitting justices believe that our very existence persecutes Christians.
The absolute fucking irony of a Catholic priest insinuating that a gay man would be a danger to children. I mean, there's π±π³π°π«π¦π€π΅πͺπ°π―... and then there's IMAX in 3D smell-o-vision with force-feedback seating. Methinks the FBI could do to have a look at Father Held's hard drive...
Given the Catholic Church's history of child abuse and protecting pedophile priests, the hypocrisy on display here is just mind-numbing. People need to do more than withdraw their children from this school, they need to put the church in their rear-view mirrors.
"f the new rule is that practicing Catholics arenβt allowed to breathe the same air as LGBTQ people, then Pope Francis ought to come out and say that." If all of the Vatican's homosexual priests at once filled their lungs with air the Vatican would become a perfect vacuum.
Gosh, and he didn't even put on a costume to read to the kiddies. Seems it's not just from priests being pissed because the readers have nicer dresses and wear them better.
All my sympathies are with Dominic Thrasher, who is going through a horror show with ALS.
Where is the RCCs compassion for Thrasher?
The division, lack of charity and the wounds caused by the division in the St. Joseph the Worker Parish community has brought deep sadness to the Lord Jesus..."
"Jesus weeps when he sees division and disunity in the Body of Christ, his Church."
How the hell does he know Jesus is sad or that he weeps? Did Jesus talk directly to the bishop or is he just guessing how he feels?
These guys use this woo woo to placate the believers all the time...takes a lot of nerve.
How much better the world would be if the church had never come into being.
Ah yes, the old βyouβre dividing the group by defending the people we hate for no reasonβ trope. The βeverything was fine before those people wanted equal rightsβ thinking. Keep the peace ideals only help the oppressors. It only works when you donβt see the humanity of the oppressed group. The parents defending the author are at fault for the division because theyβre rocking the boat. The few parents who complained a gay entered the school and Fr Held were only doing what was acceptable for so long. How dare people try to make life better for everyone, itβs only supposed to be bearable for the select few, cis-het, white, Christian, men. Everyone else stay in your place, stop making everything political and pushing cancel culture.
Still waiting for Christians...ANY Christians...to read the 4 gospels and tell us where Jesus condemned homosexuality.
Aside from the fact that Christians don't really read the bible, it might be kind of tough for them to show such condemnation for homosexuality, as sexual orientation was not understood in biblical times. Even the word "homosexual" wasn't coined until 1868 by Karl-Maria Ketenby in a letter to Karl-Heinrich Ulrichs. And "homosexuality" never appeared in the bible until the Revised Standard Version until 1946.
Accountability may, eventually, βcost moneyβ, so, no accountability.
I would bet my entire retirement, no - my actual life that the Catholic Church ran an analysis on whether settling with their abuse victims - or having them murdered - would be more cost efficient. At least in the US. Iβm sure they kill more openly (i.e., traditionally) in other places.
I have no doubts these American Bishops have, and continuously do, advocate for violent acts in the name of power. They havenβt figured out a way where it doesnβt get traced back to them, yet.
"Recently a guest who does not represent the values of our Catholic faith..."
Values, Tommy? We've seen what Catholic "values" have meant to humanity for the last 1600 years. Values. You keep using that word...
"The division, lack of charity and the wounds caused by the division in the St. Joseph the Worker Parish community has brought deep sadness to the Lord Jesus"
And you know this how? Did Jessie reply to the priest's Faceborg post? Or on Xitter? Or are you just pulling something out of your ass (you know, just like your entire religion)?