This is why fundies in the US try to sneak creationism into biology. They have ALWAYS had the ability to create bible-as-literature and even ID-as-philosophy electives. But they know nobody (except maybe some of their own kids) will voluntarily take such an elective, so they rarely ever actually do that. To indoctrinate kids like they want, they have to put that religion in a college prep course that that parents and students both think is important.
Alice: "Bob, I'm unhappy. Nobody will buy my shitburger."
Bob: "You could improve the ingredient list."
Alice: "Nope. That is not an option I'm willing to consider."
Bob: "Okay. So instead let's force restaurants to include a shitburger with every order."
I find it fascinating that religion really does need some sort of pressure for folks to choose it. Right now it’s governmental policy pressure, but it has been governmental violence pressure and church violence pressure, as well as fear mongering and simply preying on vulnerabilities to convince folks to believe. The problem is that once they do, they can be pretty pushy about it as well and difficult to convince otherwise.
But thankfully, given a chance to step back, most folks are able to break free.
Apparently this is why Dumb Idiot Ham moved to the US years ago. He knows he's going to have a much better time finding and winning gullible, idiotic converts to grift in the US than in Australia.
Not sure I'm surprised that Australia is ahead of us in rejecting religion, never mind the brand of blatant indoctrination that STILL goes on in the US and which Hemant has documented more than once and indeed, recently.
I just hope that the US has the will to catch up ... because I'm sick to death of the brand of Christian crap that I continue to see, nearly on a daily basis.
I have maintained for some time that the evangelicals desire to impose their religion on others is doomed to failure because people don't like having religion imposed on them. They are attempting to accomplish through the courts and legislatures what they have failed to do from their pulpits. If anything, trying to coerce religion will only hasten its demise.
Without god groomers forcing their sky daddy nonsense on others their numbers keep dropping. This is why they are so dangerous and rabid here in the US, a dwindling cult of crazy.
OT, but a number of conservatives on my local political blog are desperately trying to show that large companies are lefty – because you know they're willing to sacrifice making money for being "woke". Christ you've never seen such a load of bollocks in all your life. Apparently Gutfeld is the most watched late-night "comedian" on TV in the US, and apparently the other networks should be copying him and competing in that market. But of course Gutfeld is followed very closely by Colbert, and there are what – three or four more progressive comedians in that market. So it's doubtful if there's room for any more conservatives. Plus of course punching down isn't funny. But God help us it's so funny watching them squirm.
Thanks for your reply. A friend of mine left his church when they said to him, "You're not giving enough." Yikes.
Ideally, a church should meet people where they are, walk alongside them through life's storms and try to help them love and forgive the people in their lives, as we tend to hurt the people closest to us.
This is why fundies in the US try to sneak creationism into biology. They have ALWAYS had the ability to create bible-as-literature and even ID-as-philosophy electives. But they know nobody (except maybe some of their own kids) will voluntarily take such an elective, so they rarely ever actually do that. To indoctrinate kids like they want, they have to put that religion in a college prep course that that parents and students both think is important.
Alice: "Bob, I'm unhappy. Nobody will buy my shitburger."
Bob: "You could improve the ingredient list."
Alice: "Nope. That is not an option I'm willing to consider."
Bob: "Okay. So instead let's force restaurants to include a shitburger with every order."
Alice: "Brilliant!"
I find it fascinating that religion really does need some sort of pressure for folks to choose it. Right now it’s governmental policy pressure, but it has been governmental violence pressure and church violence pressure, as well as fear mongering and simply preying on vulnerabilities to convince folks to believe. The problem is that once they do, they can be pretty pushy about it as well and difficult to convince otherwise.
But thankfully, given a chance to step back, most folks are able to break free.
Apparently this is why Dumb Idiot Ham moved to the US years ago. He knows he's going to have a much better time finding and winning gullible, idiotic converts to grift in the US than in Australia.
Not sure I'm surprised that Australia is ahead of us in rejecting religion, never mind the brand of blatant indoctrination that STILL goes on in the US and which Hemant has documented more than once and indeed, recently.
I just hope that the US has the will to catch up ... because I'm sick to death of the brand of Christian crap that I continue to see, nearly on a daily basis.
Quelle surprise! Students don't want to be bored on their own time. 😁
I have maintained for some time that the evangelicals desire to impose their religion on others is doomed to failure because people don't like having religion imposed on them. They are attempting to accomplish through the courts and legislatures what they have failed to do from their pulpits. If anything, trying to coerce religion will only hasten its demise.
O/T: Fundied will gloat over this:
Gay Maryland Mayor Arrested On Child Porn Charges
https://www.joemygod.com/2023/03/gay-maryland-mayor-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/
While looking away from news like this:
Cops: Florida Pastor Secretly Sold Church For Drugs
https://www.joemygod.com/2023/03/cops-florida-pastor-secretly-sold-church-for-drugs/
Without god groomers forcing their sky daddy nonsense on others their numbers keep dropping. This is why they are so dangerous and rabid here in the US, a dwindling cult of crazy.
https://twitter.com/AtheistRepublic/status/1631304624194871298 this made me chuckle a little bit.
OT, but a number of conservatives on my local political blog are desperately trying to show that large companies are lefty – because you know they're willing to sacrifice making money for being "woke". Christ you've never seen such a load of bollocks in all your life. Apparently Gutfeld is the most watched late-night "comedian" on TV in the US, and apparently the other networks should be copying him and competing in that market. But of course Gutfeld is followed very closely by Colbert, and there are what – three or four more progressive comedians in that market. So it's doubtful if there's room for any more conservatives. Plus of course punching down isn't funny. But God help us it's so funny watching them squirm.
OT but typical trumpistani. "Stiff the contractors" is coming back to bite him as venues turn him down. Cops are especially hard hit.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-stiffed-local-cops-now-094222820.html.
As long as religion reigns, the human species is doomed to self-extinction. The God delusion will be the downfall of homo sapiens.
it is Floridaaaaaa again going full fascist
https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/florida-bill-would-require-bloggers-who-write-about-governor-to-register-with-the-state/
Thanks for your reply. A friend of mine left his church when they said to him, "You're not giving enough." Yikes.
Ideally, a church should meet people where they are, walk alongside them through life's storms and try to help them love and forgive the people in their lives, as we tend to hurt the people closest to us.
repugs want kkkrister parents to have the right to tell YOU how YOUR children must be raised because their jeezygod says so, https://www.yahoo.com/gma/house-republicans-introduce-parents-bill-232810696.html
In case you missed it, this article is "via Barry Duke". Barry has a new website, https://the-angry-atheist.com/