Yeah, seems about right. I'd be surprised if any prison let inmates know about secular options, frankly. Religion loves a captive, controllable audience. I really hope he wins but sadly being in the right isn't always enough.
What bothers me the most about this case: so far as I'm aware, there is ZERO evidence that Christian recovery programs work any better than similar nonreligious programs.
I would think - and yes, I'm aware I'm trying to be reasonable here - that the courts and correctional systems we have would be on the lookout for the most effective program available. Isn't the point to help these people become productive members of society? Isn't that what they're supposed to learn in a correctional facility anyway?
Substance abuse is hard to overcome. I'm well aware, and too many don't make it. Even for those who do, it's a lifelong struggle for most. Making that struggle harder on someone who at least appears to be attempting to make an effort at recovery is foolish and counterproductive. Let the guy into a nonreligious program or admit the whole point is forcible conversion, WV, any other claim is a lie.
Once again we have a "southern state" which thinks that the cure to everything is Christianity. This is made even more egregious by the fact that the setting is a prison, where inmates don't have a lot of choices to begin with. My impression, too, is that the alternatives suggested by Mr. Miller were rejected without examination or consideration, and that is especially problematic when it is entirely possible that those programs might be MORE effective than those currently in use by the state.
I'm pleased to see that American Atheists is on the case. Whether West Virginia learns from this or not, though, is a tossup at best.
Statistics show that atheists barely register as a blip on the US prison population. The vast majority of inmates are Christian. What good did their religion do them?
Can we as a society ๐ฝ๐น๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ stop equating "Christian" with "good"? This bullshit is getting real old.
Why cats will never join a 12-step program:
Step 1: I acknowledge the existence of a higher authority.
If religion equaled morality, the Middle-East would be the safest, sanest place on earth, rather than the never-ending horror story it is.
Yeah, seems about right. I'd be surprised if any prison let inmates know about secular options, frankly. Religion loves a captive, controllable audience. I really hope he wins but sadly being in the right isn't always enough.
Preachy preachees enforcing their will on a quite literally captive audience.
Speaks volumes about Christianity.
But it's not Christian, it could be any higher power. Joe Pesci for example.
What bullshit, but I wouldn't put it past our judiciary to go for it.
What bothers me the most about this case: so far as I'm aware, there is ZERO evidence that Christian recovery programs work any better than similar nonreligious programs.
I would think - and yes, I'm aware I'm trying to be reasonable here - that the courts and correctional systems we have would be on the lookout for the most effective program available. Isn't the point to help these people become productive members of society? Isn't that what they're supposed to learn in a correctional facility anyway?
Substance abuse is hard to overcome. I'm well aware, and too many don't make it. Even for those who do, it's a lifelong struggle for most. Making that struggle harder on someone who at least appears to be attempting to make an effort at recovery is foolish and counterproductive. Let the guy into a nonreligious program or admit the whole point is forcible conversion, WV, any other claim is a lie.
I hope for him to not only win but to ne compensated, too bad the money won't come from the pockets of those who refused him his basic right.
Once again we have a "southern state" which thinks that the cure to everything is Christianity. This is made even more egregious by the fact that the setting is a prison, where inmates don't have a lot of choices to begin with. My impression, too, is that the alternatives suggested by Mr. Miller were rejected without examination or consideration, and that is especially problematic when it is entirely possible that those programs might be MORE effective than those currently in use by the state.
I'm pleased to see that American Atheists is on the case. Whether West Virginia learns from this or not, though, is a tossup at best.
Statistics show that atheists barely register as a blip on the US prison population. The vast majority of inmates are Christian. What good did their religion do them?
Anybody stocking up on popcorn for tomorrow? Place your bets now on how long it takes the mugshots to leak!
Jesus was a jailbird. Not a good role model.
never go full fascist.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1642975311758503943
Deny them what you will, they sure know how to punish.
I can hear the state's defense. 'There ain't no such thing as atheists, they just hate doG and want to go out drinking and whoring.
A modern day Clockwork Orange...