I think this is a great idea but I think an even better idea would be to mobilize secular adults with some qualifications to teach critical thinking and study skills to middle school kids so it had a chance to soak in and take effect before they start high school.
SLJ will always be Jules Winnfield, infamous for this powerful biblical quote and preamble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WK_eWihdU which pretty much sums up the Judeo-Christian world view.
This is great news. I would just wonder if a program like this might attract butt-hurt believers who would attempt to challenge the principles being discussed in classes under the Secular Studies heading. I would also be interested in knowing if that was an issue at Pitzer College, and if so, how did they deal with it. Of course, the best way to counter would-be proselytizers is to confront them with the detailed truth about their belief systems, even though that information would clash with "their 'truth.'"
In any case, what this program needs is A LOT MORE LIKE IT!
Ha ... in this day and age, that kid would get scrapped, three ways from Thursday, before he had a chance to even say, "Kalam!" Times have changed since that dreadful piece of celluloid was released, and NOT in favor of true believers.
If it was from a jack chick itchy toilet paper Leeloo would have died less 5 minutes after her first apparition by missing the taxi and Corben Dallas would have received a message telling him Leeloo was one of Satan's agent and he would have converted on the spot.
...and now the butthurt GQP losers who tried to take away half their state's bodily autonomy can calm the fuck down with some recreational weed, because Issue 2 also passed!
...but still sent a bunch of them official letters telling them that they could, then arrested them when they tried, just to gin up some "voter fraud" to show Fox News.
Heh. I think college students planetwide have this down already. I mean can somebody test out of Let's Get a Beer 101 and and Don't Hog That Joint 210?
Ugh, the Republican governor of Mississippi, Reeves, won re-election. Rigged! Stolen election! Seize the voting machines! Bring back the Cyber Ninjas!!!!!!!!/s
O/T: Hey! Guess what? Despite the sign that says "No Solicitations" attached to the door of my house, two men from the Seventh Day Adventist cult unexpectedly came to my door to solicited SDA crappy books written by none other than the cult founder Ellen G. White responsible for inventing false visions of herself visiting God in Heaven. They advised me to download an app on my smartphone that would have allowed me to listen to all those Christian scummy ideological crud responsible for spawning young earth creationism so I can in their words "learn about Jesus" as if I didn't know Him.
Well, Here's what I did to them. Went to a nearby public dumpster and tossed them in the trash-- the proper way to handle religious books being solicited to me.
I would be tempted to put up a sign that says, "Door to Door Jesus Sales People Will Be Shot On Sight." Which I'm sure would get me a visit from the SPPD.
Wow. That really worked? I tried that a couple of times and they just drilled down harder trying to convince me I needed Jesus. I was still on my long path to deconversion back then and found these conversations distressing.
The only effective measure, for me at least, was to just slam the door as soon as they mentioned Jesus or produced a Bible.
Different JW groups came around several times. Sometimes with kids (human shields), other times not. Apparently, there's no communication within the organization.
I was always polite and simply told them of my atheism. Each time they went away, no argument.
"No solicitations"? There's your problem right there. A big no proselytising! Probably would have done a lot better. 😁 Certainly in NZ where solicitation usually means active prostitution of some sort. Maybe they were missionaries from the Commonwealth. 😁
This is very useful and long overdue. No one has to major in things like this; they just have to take the class. I predict that that class will be oversubscribed.
Yes, there are only so many jobs available at Fox News and Breitbart. It's competitive and people tend to stay there their entire careers. Only a select few will leave to work in the Trump Administration, or for Speaker Mike Johnson or Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (<--see smile).
I had a possum get into my bedroom about 11:30p a couple of months ago. Apparently 24-hour wildlife removal means you leave a voicemail and they get back to you after sunup. It took me 6 tries to get some one-man operation to come out at 1a to get the creature out of my bedroom so I could go to sleep.
Wow, I had forgotten about this incident... this was a loooong time ago....
A very small possum got into my house back in the 90's. At the time I had three cats, and they had cornered it in my bedroom. I work up to the low growling coming from the possum, and hissing and spitting coming from the cats. I grabbed a plastic mixing bowl from the kitchen, slapped it over him, and scooted the bowl along the floor to the back door, where I shoved it over the threshold and out into the yard, bowl and all. Of course, the damned thing had urinated during the process, so at 3 a.m., I was boiling bleach water and mopping the floor, then following up with lysol, then a hot water rinse.
I don’t know anyone in particular that attended or attends Whitewater, but I know all the branches through the state are just as highly regarded as the main campus.
This is important to study, not just because I’m part of the demographic being studied. Because all demographics ought to be understood in a profound way. Even if you don’t like the secular worldview, a deeper understanding will allow a more peaceful existence. And it works the other way around as well.
It is still decent. But it is second tier. The second level of UW schools used to be geared towards particular fields. Steven's Point was natural resources and forestry. Platteville was engineering. And Whitewater was geared more towards producing teachers. Or at least that was what it was thirty years ago.
Linn-Mar school district in Eastern Iowa, the district that Mike Pence visited and name-dropped during the last GOP debate, just elected 4 decent people to our school board. The numbers weren't even close, the 4 theofascist candidates were trounced...in a field of 8 (vote for 4), the highest vote-getter of M4L-backed goons was surpassed by almost a thousand votes by the lowest vote-getter of the good guys.
I wouldn't put it past them to make such claims. They've been grousing for some time now about how a coalition of individuals and groups coalesced to recruit and support 4 good candidates for 4 seats, as if that was in any way illegal or unethical.
I think this is a great idea but I think an even better idea would be to mobilize secular adults with some qualifications to teach critical thinking and study skills to middle school kids so it had a chance to soak in and take effect before they start high school.
Nazi Moms would scream their heads off and make death threats to any school board that did that.
As if they aren't already doing that?
Anything having to do with logical thinking would be wonderful.
WOKEISM!!!! SOSHULISM!!!
Good thing this school isn't in Floriduh. DeSepsis would have the state police shoot the recipient of the professorship.
There are idiots screaming WOKEISM!!!! over the new MCU movie "The Marvels."
Unbefreakinglievable.
Is anyone surprised? An MCU movie with three women leads, two of them are PoC.
And don't forget Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, a powerful PoC.
SLJ will always be Jules Winnfield, infamous for this powerful biblical quote and preamble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WK_eWihdU which pretty much sums up the Judeo-Christian world view.
'Say WHAT Again!'
Turns out he's a good Catholic in real life.
You know. Like Joe Biden. ;)
What?
I don't know if I'd call Ms. Marvel a woman yet. At least not from the couple of episodes I saw. She's a girl. :) But otherwise, spot on.
Screaming WOKEISM is way easier than thinking.
I must admit that I think Southpark's The Panderverse is funny.
Gods of Olympus, I haven't watched SP in decades. :)
Well, the movie kept at least 80% of the audience awake. If that isn't wokism, I don't know what is.
FWIW, the movie won't even hit theaters until Friday.
These were just racist, misogynist bozos venting their spleens and having a case of the vapors over nothing.
They changed the actor who plays Goose!
The cat or what's inside the cat. ;)
I'll go for both of us. No need for you to lift a finger. :)
Good on 'em. Hopefully many other institutions will follow suit.
This is great news. I would just wonder if a program like this might attract butt-hurt believers who would attempt to challenge the principles being discussed in classes under the Secular Studies heading. I would also be interested in knowing if that was an issue at Pitzer College, and if so, how did they deal with it. Of course, the best way to counter would-be proselytizers is to confront them with the detailed truth about their belief systems, even though that information would clash with "their 'truth.'"
In any case, what this program needs is A LOT MORE LIKE IT!
I wonder if any young believer would think of himself as the student in "God's Not Dead".
Ha ... in this day and age, that kid would get scrapped, three ways from Thursday, before he had a chance to even say, "Kalam!" Times have changed since that dreadful piece of celluloid was released, and NOT in favor of true believers.
I feel like I should watch that movie if only to see for myself how awful it is.
OT. Rewatched Fifth Element yesterday!
Leeloo Dallas. Multipass.
“Is Leeloo in trouble?”
“When is Leeloo not in trouble?”
No need to see God's Not Dead. It's basically based on the anti-evolution Jack Chick tract "Big Daddy?"
https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0055
EDIT for clarity
I thought you meant the Fifth Element was based on a Chick Tract.
If it was from a jack chick itchy toilet paper Leeloo would have died less 5 minutes after her first apparition by missing the taxi and Corben Dallas would have received a message telling him Leeloo was one of Satan's agent and he would have converted on the spot.
Edit : NOGODZ guess what I am eating right now.
Bet it ain't anything French. :)
Pineapple pizza?
I should have been clearer. Have edited.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3feda04ed7d89003944370a0993204495740f8e277b787b44568db7b87ec4a4.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICv6GLwt1gM&pp=ygUcRXZvbHV0aW9uIERlbmllciAtIEZ1dHVyYW1hLg%3D%3D
I’m NOT reading a Chick tract!
They're fun. Except Lisa.
https://www.boolean-union.com/Chick/Lisa/Lisa.htm
Chick tracts terrified me when I was little...especially "Who Goofed?"
I've seen enough: Democrats win control of the Virginia House of Delegates, flipping the GOP majority and giving them control of both chambers.
When will the MAGATs storm Richmond?
They were going to meet at the Robert E. Lee statue, but they had to scrap those plans (much like the statue).
That is founding father Robert E. Lee... according to Marjorie Taylor Greene
Wow, Lee was a lot older than I thought.
Wasn't that why he carried a sword?
An Immortal? Should've known.
By dying and coming back to life, Jesus showed he was an Immortal. The Romans shouldn't have crucified him. Methos should have taken his head.
Well, to be fair, The CSA is MTG's preferred country.
Confederate South America??? edit the correct answer is state. I should have taken 10 seconds to google the answer.
"Carry me back to ol' Virginia, lord!"-Richard Pryor (RIP) in Stir Crazy.
You and I have the trifecta here. We control the governorship and both Houses.
OT- Issue 1 successful in Ohio!
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-amendment-election-2023-fe3e06747b616507d8ca21ea26485270
...and now the butthurt GQP losers who tried to take away half their state's bodily autonomy can calm the fuck down with some recreational weed, because Issue 2 also passed!
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-marijuana-legalization-election-2023-6d15efb27fdcd41e7364f2b7cd3177f4
...wait, they'll probably just get angrier instead of doing that. Oh well.
Still not a reason to visit Ohio. : )
you telling me you do not want that Cincinnati chili???
...but you can still get it in... hm.
*𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘤𝘬𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘱*
Indiana... Kentucky... and... 𝘍𝘭𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘥𝘢.
Well, shit. I guess Ohio 𝘪𝘴 the best of 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 options.
Yes.
Tony Packo's.
High time that happened!
It's a grass roots movement!
reeferendum
This subthread's going to pot.
this thread is turning into the dope show.
Then we should exit before the roach.
Gotta expect it around this joint.
It could be chronic.
That's a doobious assertion.
Just planting a seed.
Dave's not here man.
https:/www.gocomics.com/realitycheck/2023/10/23
"Republicans who remain opposed to it in the Legislature are free to make tweaks to the law —"
The same way DeNazi and our legislature gutted the constitutional amendment to allow former felons to vote.
Will of the People? Minor obstacle.
...but still sent a bunch of them official letters telling them that they could, then arrested them when they tried, just to gin up some "voter fraud" to show Fox News.
And then quietly distance themselves when it is discovered they are Republican voters.
Just a reminder the Ohio secretary of state Frank LaRose changed the word of issue 1 to be more favorable to his side.
Glad somebody got good news tonight.
Heh. I think college students planetwide have this down already. I mean can somebody test out of Let's Get a Beer 101 and and Don't Hog That Joint 210?
🎵Pass the dutchie 'pon the left-hand side 🎶
OT- As Chump gets a well-deserved court-slapping in New York, one of the exonerated Central Park Five- whose lives he helped to ruin when he was still just an over-privileged, under-scrupled shithead real estate mogul- wins a seat on the City Council: https://apnews.com/article/new-york-city-council-election-yusef-salaam-0377cedcbd29f424753c9790551a85de
As soon as someone translates what this means for him, he'll resume screaming.
Ugh, the Republican governor of Mississippi, Reeves, won re-election. Rigged! Stolen election! Seize the voting machines! Bring back the Cyber Ninjas!!!!!!!!/s
Hanging chads!
Author, author! Start the revolution without me! *smiles*
I've seen enough: Democrats retain control of the Virginia Senate, blocking a trifecta for Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R).
Texans lowered property tax and gutted public school funding in one fell swoop.
nobody is calling it yet, but it looks like abortion will be safe in the state of Ohio.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1722062934023483640
O/T: Hey! Guess what? Despite the sign that says "No Solicitations" attached to the door of my house, two men from the Seventh Day Adventist cult unexpectedly came to my door to solicited SDA crappy books written by none other than the cult founder Ellen G. White responsible for inventing false visions of herself visiting God in Heaven. They advised me to download an app on my smartphone that would have allowed me to listen to all those Christian scummy ideological crud responsible for spawning young earth creationism so I can in their words "learn about Jesus" as if I didn't know Him.
Well, Here's what I did to them. Went to a nearby public dumpster and tossed them in the trash-- the proper way to handle religious books being solicited to me.
Ha! Never had any SDAs around here, only JWs ... and I have exactly ZERO problem letting them know where I stand.
Which is probably why, after one or two visits, they don't come around again! 😁
I would be tempted to put up a sign that says, "Door to Door Jesus Sales People Will Be Shot On Sight." Which I'm sure would get me a visit from the SPPD.
Long-haired freaky people.
https://www.zentaur.org/memes/long_haired_freaky_people.jpg
Let my freak flag fly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaFvYi5x3fg
This is a sign I had on my door back in the 90's, for all the good it did.
"Absolutely NO salesperson, peddlers, or solicitors whatsoever.
THIS! MEANS! YOU!"
I still had assholes knocking on my door, but at least I had an excuse to be curt and rude.
We had a NO SOLICITORS sign at the front door of my parents house. We still got JWs come calling.
I always answered the door. I told them I was an atheist. They left without a word.
Wow. That really worked? I tried that a couple of times and they just drilled down harder trying to convince me I needed Jesus. I was still on my long path to deconversion back then and found these conversations distressing.
The only effective measure, for me at least, was to just slam the door as soon as they mentioned Jesus or produced a Bible.
Different JW groups came around several times. Sometimes with kids (human shields), other times not. Apparently, there's no communication within the organization.
I was always polite and simply told them of my atheism. Each time they went away, no argument.
"No solicitations"? There's your problem right there. A big no proselytising! Probably would have done a lot better. 😁 Certainly in NZ where solicitation usually means active prostitution of some sort. Maybe they were missionaries from the Commonwealth. 😁
This is very useful and long overdue. No one has to major in things like this; they just have to take the class. I predict that that class will be oversubscribed.
"I majored in Atheism with a minor in Women's and Gender Studies." Why won't anybody hire me?
"Why won't anybody hire me?"
Sounds like the lament of Liberty University grads.
Yes, there are only so many jobs available at Fox News and Breitbart. It's competitive and people tend to stay there their entire careers. Only a select few will leave to work in the Trump Administration, or for Speaker Mike Johnson or Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (<--see smile).
I imagine the vast majority of LU grads wind up working in an industry that can be summed up in 6 words: "Would you like fries with that?"
Or "We don't talk about Pastor Mike"
I majored in Christian Flood Geology and the Bible, why won't people hire me......
You don't want to live in Kentucky? Or just don't want to tithe your salary back to your employer?
I am not from Kentucky, but how do you tithe three 'possum and a mason jar of moonshine, which I believe is the minimum wage in Kentucky.
I had a possum get into my bedroom about 11:30p a couple of months ago. Apparently 24-hour wildlife removal means you leave a voicemail and they get back to you after sunup. It took me 6 tries to get some one-man operation to come out at 1a to get the creature out of my bedroom so I could go to sleep.
Wow, I had forgotten about this incident... this was a loooong time ago....
A very small possum got into my house back in the 90's. At the time I had three cats, and they had cornered it in my bedroom. I work up to the low growling coming from the possum, and hissing and spitting coming from the cats. I grabbed a plastic mixing bowl from the kitchen, slapped it over him, and scooted the bowl along the floor to the back door, where I shoved it over the threshold and out into the yard, bowl and all. Of course, the damned thing had urinated during the process, so at 3 a.m., I was boiling bleach water and mopping the floor, then following up with lysol, then a hot water rinse.
Threw the mixing bowl away.
Ask Ken Ham.
Persecution.
Yay, UW
I don’t know anyone in particular that attended or attends Whitewater, but I know all the branches through the state are just as highly regarded as the main campus.
This is important to study, not just because I’m part of the demographic being studied. Because all demographics ought to be understood in a profound way. Even if you don’t like the secular worldview, a deeper understanding will allow a more peaceful existence. And it works the other way around as well.
My understanding is that Whitewater is not considered to be in the same group as the Madison or Milwaukee branches.
You may be right, but I think it depends on the course of study.
It is still decent. But it is second tier. The second level of UW schools used to be geared towards particular fields. Steven's Point was natural resources and forestry. Platteville was engineering. And Whitewater was geared more towards producing teachers. Or at least that was what it was thirty years ago.
Linn-Mar school district in Eastern Iowa, the district that Mike Pence visited and name-dropped during the last GOP debate, just elected 4 decent people to our school board. The numbers weren't even close, the 4 theofascist candidates were trounced...in a field of 8 (vote for 4), the highest vote-getter of M4L-backed goons was surpassed by almost a thousand votes by the lowest vote-getter of the good guys.
There is reason to hope.
https://cbs2iowa.com/news/local/moms-for-liberty-backed-candidates-fail-in-linn-mar-school-board-race-results#
Rigged persecution !
I wouldn't put it past them to make such claims. They've been grousing for some time now about how a coalition of individuals and groups coalesced to recruit and support 4 good candidates for 4 seats, as if that was in any way illegal or unethical.
It is, when it's their woke opponents.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/liberals-win-loudoun-county-schools_n_65440037e4b06bc01e238d10
More good news.