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oraxx's avatar

I can't picture many kids bugging their parents for a return trip to this monument to ignorance. About the only worthwhile thing regarding the Ark, is that it serves as a reminder of what reasonable people are up against in this world.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

It's that inferior knock-off of the present you 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 asked for, but your well-meaning elder relative thought it would be just as good so that's what you got instead... and in the end it gets parked in the back of the closet, except when you have to take it out when they visit to pretend that you actually like it so you don't hurt their feelings.

Except, y'know, it's replacing your whole summer vacation instead of just one toy you wanted for your birthday.

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oraxx's avatar

Excellent analogy.

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larry parker's avatar

Army Pete.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Riddle me this, AiG...

Why is a man named Lot considered righteous after attempting to give his two unnamed virgin daughters to a mob to be raped in order two protect two male strangers? Furthermore, why is that man still considered righteous after he later impregnates both his daughters?

"Oh, but those daughters got him drunk and he didn't realize what he was doing." Sure. Anyone who gets so stinking intoxicated that he doesn't recognize his own flesh and blood relations is going to be far too inebriated to achieve an erection, let alone an orgasm. Twice. That tale is as tall as that tower you plan on "erecting."

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Whitney's avatar

Joan already mentioned, but quick reminder: Women are always slaves in the Old Testament. Always. Even women considered 'righteous' are still, in fact, slaves of their male relatives. Even if we were discussing the New Testament, women aren't important or meaningful enough for it to matter what happens to them.

Judaism and Christianity both are patriarchal in the extreme. Anyone attempting to claim otherwise is either a liar or just plain wrong; neither religion cares about any female members. Evangelicals can pretend that the New Testament improved the situation for women all they like, but at the end of the day, they still think Paul was Jesus 2.0 and that guy really hated women. No amount of modern-day rephrasing will change that.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Let's also not forget the wife getting turned into a pillar of salt for daring to glance in the wrong direction, as hubby escaped to go start a new incest dynasty. There is, as they say, a whoooole "Lot" to unpack there.

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cdbunch's avatar

I still don't see how the Lot story became a condemnation of man on man sex. The townspeople want to *rape* the strangers, not have sex with them.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Xtians don't read their book. Sodom was destroyed for inhospitality.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

And Onan for not fecondating his brother's widow, not for masturbating per se.

By the way, why marrying his child' spouse if forbidden if your country's laws are based on tge babble ?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Yup. Onan got a lightning bolt enema from YHVH for disobedience.

The bible conflicts on whether or not to marry your brother's sister, surprise surprise. Deuteronomy 25:5 says do it. Leviticus 20:21 says don't. Which is it? You can't do both.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Lot's wife was also unnamed. Gives you an idea of how a patriarchal religion feels about women.

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Matri's avatar

Besides, how would they know she was turned to salt if they were forbidden to look back? A "Lot" of funny business going on there.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

How did they know? Why, because the bible says so, silly.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Simple- they were only girls. He was just lending them his property.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

And later, YHVH killed a man who was only trying to right the Ark of the Covenant so that it wouldn't touch the ground.

The Lord Jealous sure had his priorities in order, didn't he? :S

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cdbunch's avatar

YHWH is a badly programmed robot. Can't take into account anything but the rules, why does not compute.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

There's really nothing that can be said about Ken Ham's delusion that hasn't been said before. The Ark Park is a waste of money and an insult to human intelligence and understanding of how the world works. It's just taken longer for SOME people to catch up to that fact than with others.

I just wish they'd wake the fuck up!

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XJC's avatar

Try praying. It will have the expected outcome: reality.

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JerryBier's avatar

Well, that's not good news. We need to stop this brainwashing of our children. The dinosaurs lived 65+ million years ago. That CAN be proven. Ken Ham's folly can not!

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Christians create a whole-ass genocide themed family amusement park, but we're the ones exposing kids to age-inappropriate content by, um... *𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘤𝘬𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘴* existing. Ok, groomers.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

OMG all the folks defending Aldean are saying stuff like “it’s alright for WAP but try that in a small town is bad.” As if the two are remotely comparable. Women being positive about sex, no matter how lewd, is not worse than lynching/genocide. But, the prudish history of the USA demands violence replace sex in media, so of course the “silent majority” (what they’re claiming right now with the Aldean song getting the Streisand effect and the Sound of Freedom getting artificially inflated box office attendance) thinks WAP is worse.

Genocide is their bread and butter.

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Lynn James's avatar

Aldean is an example of why I usually can't stand country music, with only a few exceptions. Most country music I find annoying, with the repetitive melodies and the whiny, nasal, fingernails-on-a-chalkboard voices grating on the ears, and if the usually sexist lyrics get through (I can only tune something out for so long) it progresses from annoying to irritating.

I worked at a civic center once, years ago, when an Aldean concert came through town. I was assigned to be an usher, so I heard most of his unimpressive concert. The audience was the real trip. I never saw so many big-ass cowboy hats adorned with all manner of beer bottle caps and turkey feathers and what-not, so many butt-ugly steel-toed cowboy boots, and so many dinner-plated-sized belt buckles all together in one place in my entire life.

And the men were even worse.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Aldean is the epitome of the current crop of country artists. Fake as they come, barely talented, and simply pandering to the Jesus Guns Babies crowd.

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cdbunch's avatar

My current favorite country artist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqzAsPhmy7o

Not well known, unfortunately

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Did you ever hear this one ? it's from 1984 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88sARuFu-tc

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cdbunch's avatar

The song sounds familiar, but I don't remember the video. I'd be surprised if it played here in '84.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Here's mine. The first openly-gay CW singer from South Africa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJaV-rqsiU

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Straw's avatar

Your first paragraph explains perfectly why I usually don't like country music. And your last sentence, loved it, an excuse to laughing is always welcome.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

God wipes out an entire planet except for a drunk and his family and yet xtians see drag queens as the real menace.

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cdbunch's avatar

Never forget the millions of puppies and kittens who hadn't done anything.

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Lynn James's avatar

That depresses me every time I think about those poor creatures and how terrified they would have been...if the Flood had really happened.

I wonder if people who tell this horrid story to their kids have ever really thought it through.

And if they did, and realized what that sez about their psycho god, would they have sense enough to be terrified if they still chose to believe...

But that's a hell of a rabbit hole I don't want to go down. I'll just remind myself it never happened and go watch some cute puppy and kitten videos.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Not to mention all those infants. And what about pregnant women?

Seems the god of the bible isn't very pro-life at all.

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Straw's avatar

It's not wrong when the all loving entity does it. If you still refuse to warship it, you'll be living in Hell for the rest of eternity. In Hell they speak trøndersk and way too fast, it's awful.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

If I recall correctly, there's only one line in the story of Noah that deals with the eradication of human life as a result of the flood, Genesis 7:23:

𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑒𝑥𝑐𝑒𝑝𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑘.

That is all the more commentary the bible has about what amounts to not just genocide but a mass extinction event that supposedly happened some 3,500 years ago. If the utter absurdity of that event in the face of modern forensic history and science isn't enough to put any thinking person off the brand of stupidity that the Ark Park represents, I can't help 'em.

Then again, I did say, "THINKING." Mostly, they don't.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Shoulda written "xenocide" or "omnicide" instead. Damn.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Wiped away people, animals (except for the beasts on the boat) and plants/trees.

What sin did the vast majority of animals and all the plants/trees commit to be consigned to obliteration?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

There was only 7 pair of pure and one pair of impure animals or one pair of each on the ark. ALL the others animals were killed right ? So what did the carnivorous animals eat ? I know for a fact that a meat lover will despise plant based food unless the alternative is being forced to swallow a spoonful of honey or jam once a week.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

And in one painting, Noah seems to have missed the fact that two male lions were boarding the ark. They'll keep each other company (if you know what I mean) but they would've insured the eventual extinction of lions were that painting accurate.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I imagine Noah checking the genitalias of some venomous snakes 😁

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Drag race France season 2 started June 30th both on France TV streaming site and on France 2. France television is a group of public channels. I am proud to belong to a country of "groomers" 😁

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Joe King's avatar

𝐾𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐴𝑟𝑘’𝑠 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑎𝑛𝑦, 𝐶𝑟𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝐶𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛, 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 $1 𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 $2 𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑃𝑎𝑦𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑐𝑘 𝑃𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑃𝑟𝑜𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑚. 𝐻𝑎𝑚 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑡 $1,135,009 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑠𝑒𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑠𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑠𝑒𝑡 𝐶𝑂𝑉𝐼𝐷-𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑙𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑠. 𝐷𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝐴𝑛𝑠𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝐺𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑢𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑝𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑐-𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑙𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑠.

Grifters using the same grift on multiple marks? In other news, the Pope is still Catholic.

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NoOne of Consequence's avatar

Sure, but he might say he's also Hindu if he'd get another check and a new set of... altar boys.

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Ken's avatar

I was disgusted to notice that a few weeks ago CBS Sunday Morning began running advertisements for the Ark park. Really disappointing because the show is otherwise very factual and rational.

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Joe King's avatar

Ads I have seen include it as part of Cincinnati tourism. Cincinnati is 50 miles away.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

OT - DeNazi's propaganda machine kicks in

𝐁𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐬𝐥𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲? 𝐂𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 𝐬𝐚𝐲 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞’𝐬 𝐞𝐱𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐬𝐥𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐬.

The battle over Florida’s new African American history standards grows more heated.

https://news.yahoo.com/benefited-slavery-critics-state-examples-204800717.html

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Maltnothops's avatar

So…he’s courting the pro-slavery vote?

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cdbunch's avatar

Well, at least the "Whites didn't do anything wrong" vote.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Well to be fair, I suppose you could call it an apprenticeship of sorts.

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larry parker's avatar

Permanent indentured servitude.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

They have strong wrists for voting. Comes from all that whitewashing they do.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Hilarious. Even if it were true, the only ones who benefited were the ones who were freed after the Civil War. Generations of others were not.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

16 out of how many slaves ? What about those who died while crossing the oceans to be sold ? About those who died too young ?

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Bill Wilson's avatar

Soooo, according to the flood story god killed all humans except the eight people on the ark. Given that the current human population on earth is 8 billion there is not enough binary pairs of parents to account for the current number of people. Meaning that pedigree collapse has occurred. Ham needs to add another biographical detail the Noahs: They were all mother f-ers.

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jomicur's avatar

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

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cdbunch's avatar

Like I've said before, I think Hemant has a bet on when this place collapses.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

My guess is right after the appliances' warranties expire, but right before the next insurance bill comes due.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

It can't happen fast enough.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

(in Bugs Bunny's voice): "Oh, look! A 4-legged aeroplane!"

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NOGODZ20's avatar

One of my all-time favorite movies.

Had several Mel Brooks alumni. Kenneth Mars, Liam Dunn and, in her screen debut, Madeline Kahn.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Had to click on this a couple of times. Just showed an ad for Staples the first time.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I had one for diapers...

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cdbunch's avatar

Something you haven't told us? 😊

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I will have a baby when science make one who doesn't shit and throw up 😏

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painedumonde's avatar

It should be allowed to wilt, like the stark landscapes of Chernobyl, and then preserved as a paintball battle zone!

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Well, it already looks 𝘷𝘢𝘨𝘶𝘦𝘭𝘺 like a boat, so... pirate ship themed paintball arena! No entry permitted except in costume.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

With a gift shop. Just like in the original by Noah and Sons.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

And elevators! And flush toilets, and electric lighting, and fire sprinklers, and a lightning rod (nothing says "faith in Da Lawd" like a lightning rod), and...

Gee whiz, Noah sure was ahead of his time!

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

And my favorite, insurance against flood.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Fun fact: in the apocryphal Book of Indemnity, Noah gets indicted for insurance fraud because he knew the flood was coming before he opened the policy.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

If Ham is having such financial difficulties, why doesn't he and one or two others pray to their god for help in Jesus' name? According to his savior, YHVH is supposed to come through in that situation.

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larry parker's avatar

As long as they do it in a closet.

(Praying, you perverts ; )

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NOGODZ20's avatar

The image of Amish Wolverine getting buck wild with two of his supporters causes my brain to short circuit.

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Lynn James's avatar

😂🤣😂🤣😂

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larry parker's avatar

"We all know what has to happen. Grandma* has to go."

*Or in this case, Grandpa Ken.

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Janice Hornby's avatar

I could be wrong but wasn’t Egypt thriving when the earth was ‘flooded’?

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larry parker's avatar

Yes, and China, and India, and just about anywhere else you look.

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Mr.E's avatar

that is just fake evidence given to us from the Devil himself. He is also the one who gave us dinosaur bones

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Guess that makes him far smarter and more clever than his opposite number in the clouds.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Europe was way behind technology and agriculture wise. That's your proof the flood happened 😁

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Matri's avatar

Plus, the banks of the Nile flood annually. It replenishes the soil for the cropss.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

You get it wrong, flood stories happening in areas where rivers flood on a regular basis is merely a coincidence.

I don't remember reading anything equivalent of Utnapishtim's myth in Egyptian mythology and lore. In the one with Sekhmet the beer "flood" save humanity.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Yup. Egypt was ancient before the flood. Were that story true, there would've been no Egypt to keep the Hebrews in slavery (another bullshit story, as the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. No exodus and no 40-year walkabout.

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Janice Hornby's avatar

I had no idea what this was and had to Google it.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Lucky you – until now of course. 😁

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Janice Hornby's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Now you know what they mean when they say "Ignorance is bliss." :)

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Whitney's avatar

Yeah, it's probably going to take a few years yet for this thing to die like we all hope it will. Right now, it's still all shiny and new, but give it some time to start looking tired, dirty, and dated. I think the numbers we're seeing now would pretty much be the same with or without COVID, and we can expect a slow decline from this point on. Upkeep on the place is only going to get more and more expensive as time moves on.

Right now, Ham's still making too much money, but when the cash cow dries up, that might change. Waiting for it to happen is the hard part.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

I've lost any confidence that it will tank. We've been waiting for it to die from a number of years now, and it still staggers on. There is probably enough reservoir of the religious gullible to keep it going for years. Unfortunately.

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