I can't picture many kids bugging their parents for a return trip to this monument to ignorance. About the only worthwhile thing regarding the Ark, is that it serves as a reminder of what reasonable people are up against in this world.
It's that inferior knock-off of the present you π³π¦π’πππΊ asked for, but your well-meaning elder relative thought it would be just as good so that's what you got instead... and in the end it gets parked in the back of the closet, except when you have to take it out when they visit to pretend that you actually like it so you don't hurt their feelings.
Except, y'know, it's replacing your whole summer vacation instead of just one toy you wanted for your birthday.
Why is a man named Lot considered righteous after attempting to give his two unnamed virgin daughters to a mob to be raped in order two protect two male strangers? Furthermore, why is that man still considered righteous after he later impregnates both his daughters?
"Oh, but those daughters got him drunk and he didn't realize what he was doing." Sure. Anyone who gets so stinking intoxicated that he doesn't recognize his own flesh and blood relations is going to be far too inebriated to achieve an erection, let alone an orgasm. Twice. That tale is as tall as that tower you plan on "erecting."
Joan already mentioned, but quick reminder: Women are always slaves in the Old Testament. Always. Even women considered 'righteous' are still, in fact, slaves of their male relatives. Even if we were discussing the New Testament, women aren't important or meaningful enough for it to matter what happens to them.
Judaism and Christianity both are patriarchal in the extreme. Anyone attempting to claim otherwise is either a liar or just plain wrong; neither religion cares about any female members. Evangelicals can pretend that the New Testament improved the situation for women all they like, but at the end of the day, they still think Paul was Jesus 2.0 and that guy really hated women. No amount of modern-day rephrasing will change that.
Let's also not forget the wife getting turned into a pillar of salt for daring to glance in the wrong direction, as hubby escaped to go start a new incest dynasty. There is, as they say, a whoooole "Lot" to unpack there.
Yup. Onan got a lightning bolt enema from YHVH for disobedience.
The bible conflicts on whether or not to marry your brother's sister, surprise surprise. Deuteronomy 25:5 says do it. Leviticus 20:21 says don't. Which is it? You can't do both.
There's really nothing that can be said about Ken Ham's delusion that hasn't been said before. The Ark Park is a waste of money and an insult to human intelligence and understanding of how the world works. It's just taken longer for SOME people to catch up to that fact than with others.
Well, that's not good news. We need to stop this brainwashing of our children. The dinosaurs lived 65+ million years ago. That CAN be proven. Ken Ham's folly can not!
For me, the Ark Encounter creators' claim that dinosaurs died out because they simply didn't make it onto Noah's Ark (they were too big, apparently) sounds like sheer folly, something I want to poke fun at. What do they say about the small bird-like dinosaurs, like the European Archaeopteryx and the Chinese Caihong (the size of a hooded crow), the larger, but still very small by dinosaur standards, four-winged Microrator (the size of a black raven), and the aquatic Halszkaraptor (the size of a mallard duck)? They're not even the smallest!
When Greek myths were created, the existence of giant fossilized bones was explained even more naively than when the Old (Jewish) and New (Christian) Testaments were created. According to Greek mythology, those with giant bones were human giants! This is where the famous human giants of Greek mythology come from.
Later, the legend that dinosaur bones were supposedly the bones of large proto-humans continued in its own way as a "scientific" theory among Christian anti-Darwinists, to whom the idea of ββhuman origins from ape-like creatures seemed implausible, and, most importantly, humiliating. Even some of my teachers believed in this legend.
My great-grandparents were practicing Jews, but my grandparents, and later my parents, were atheists, and they raised me an atheist. Reading Bible stories didn't make me religious, any more than reading Greek mythology did.
Itβs been said that reading the whole Bible is the best way to create Atheists. For me, it was just reading the right kind of books and reading the passages that pastors in the Christian churches are told to never bring up to their congregation because they might lose their incomeβ $$$ rules everywhere.
OMG all the folks defending Aldean are saying stuff like βitβs alright for WAP but try that in a small town is bad.β As if the two are remotely comparable. Women being positive about sex, no matter how lewd, is not worse than lynching/genocide. But, the prudish history of the USA demands violence replace sex in media, so of course the βsilent majorityβ (what theyβre claiming right now with the Aldean song getting the Streisand effect and the Sound of Freedom getting artificially inflated box office attendance) thinks WAP is worse.
Aldean is an example of why I usually can't stand country music, with only a few exceptions. Most country music I find annoying, with the repetitive melodies and the whiny, nasal, fingernails-on-a-chalkboard voices grating on the ears, and if the usually sexist lyrics get through (I can only tune something out for so long) it progresses from annoying to irritating.
I worked at a civic center once, years ago, when an Aldean concert came through town. I was assigned to be an usher, so I heard most of his unimpressive concert. The audience was the real trip. I never saw so many big-ass cowboy hats adorned with all manner of beer bottle caps and turkey feathers and what-not, so many butt-ugly steel-toed cowboy boots, and so many dinner-plated-sized belt buckles all together in one place in my entire life.
Your first paragraph explains perfectly why I usually don't like country music. And your last sentence, loved it, an excuse to laughing is always welcome.
It's not wrong when the all loving entity does it. If you still refuse to warship it, you'll be living in Hell for the rest of eternity. In Hell they speak trΓΈndersk and way too fast, it's awful.
If I recall correctly, there's only one line in the story of Noah that deals with the eradication of human life as a result of the flood, Genesis 7:23:
That is all the more commentary the bible has about what amounts to not just genocide but a mass extinction event that supposedly happened some 3,500 years ago. If the utter absurdity of that event in the face of modern forensic history and science isn't enough to put any thinking person off the brand of stupidity that the Ark Park represents, I can't help 'em.
Then again, I did say, "THINKING." Mostly, they don't.
There was only 7 pair of pure and one pair of impure animals or one pair of each on the ark. ALL the others animals were killed right ? So what did the carnivorous animals eat ? I know for a fact that a meat lover will despise plant based food unless the alternative is being forced to swallow a spoonful of honey or jam once a week.
And in one painting, Noah seems to have missed the fact that two male lions were boarding the ark. They'll keep each other company (if you know what I mean) but they would've insured the eventual extinction of lions were that painting accurate.
Drag race France season 2 started June 30th both on France TV streaming site and on France 2. France television is a group of public channels. I am proud to belong to a country of "groomers" π
I was disgusted to notice that a few weeks ago CBS Sunday Morning began running advertisements for the Ark park. Really disappointing because the show is otherwise very factual and rational.
Soooo, according to the flood story god killed all humans except the eight people on the ark. Given that the current human population on earth is 8 billion there is not enough binary pairs of parents to account for the current number of people. Meaning that pedigree collapse has occurred. Ham needs to add another biographical detail the Noahs: They were all mother f-ers.
And elevators! And flush toilets, and electric lighting, and fire sprinklers, and a lightning rod (nothing says "faith in Da Lawd" like a lightning rod), and...
Fun fact: in the apocryphal Book of Indemnity, Noah gets indicted for insurance fraud because he knew the flood was coming before he opened the policy.
If Ham is having such financial difficulties, why doesn't he and one or two others pray to their god for help in Jesus' name? According to his savior, YHVH is supposed to come through in that situation.
You get it wrong, flood stories happening in areas where rivers flood on a regular basis is merely a coincidence.
I don't remember reading anything equivalent of Utnapishtim's myth in Egyptian mythology and lore. In the one with Sekhmet the beer "flood" save humanity.
Yup. Egypt was ancient before the flood. Were that story true, there would've been no Egypt to keep the Hebrews in slavery (another bullshit story, as the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. No exodus and no 40-year walkabout.
Yeah, it's probably going to take a few years yet for this thing to die like we all hope it will. Right now, it's still all shiny and new, but give it some time to start looking tired, dirty, and dated. I think the numbers we're seeing now would pretty much be the same with or without COVID, and we can expect a slow decline from this point on. Upkeep on the place is only going to get more and more expensive as time moves on.
Right now, Ham's still making too much money, but when the cash cow dries up, that might change. Waiting for it to happen is the hard part.
I've lost any confidence that it will tank. We've been waiting for it to die from a number of years now, and it still staggers on. There is probably enough reservoir of the religious gullible to keep it going for years. Unfortunately.
I can't picture many kids bugging their parents for a return trip to this monument to ignorance. About the only worthwhile thing regarding the Ark, is that it serves as a reminder of what reasonable people are up against in this world.
It's that inferior knock-off of the present you π³π¦π’πππΊ asked for, but your well-meaning elder relative thought it would be just as good so that's what you got instead... and in the end it gets parked in the back of the closet, except when you have to take it out when they visit to pretend that you actually like it so you don't hurt their feelings.
Except, y'know, it's replacing your whole summer vacation instead of just one toy you wanted for your birthday.
Excellent analogy.
Army Pete.
Riddle me this, AiG...
Why is a man named Lot considered righteous after attempting to give his two unnamed virgin daughters to a mob to be raped in order two protect two male strangers? Furthermore, why is that man still considered righteous after he later impregnates both his daughters?
"Oh, but those daughters got him drunk and he didn't realize what he was doing." Sure. Anyone who gets so stinking intoxicated that he doesn't recognize his own flesh and blood relations is going to be far too inebriated to achieve an erection, let alone an orgasm. Twice. That tale is as tall as that tower you plan on "erecting."
Joan already mentioned, but quick reminder: Women are always slaves in the Old Testament. Always. Even women considered 'righteous' are still, in fact, slaves of their male relatives. Even if we were discussing the New Testament, women aren't important or meaningful enough for it to matter what happens to them.
Judaism and Christianity both are patriarchal in the extreme. Anyone attempting to claim otherwise is either a liar or just plain wrong; neither religion cares about any female members. Evangelicals can pretend that the New Testament improved the situation for women all they like, but at the end of the day, they still think Paul was Jesus 2.0 and that guy really hated women. No amount of modern-day rephrasing will change that.
Let's also not forget the wife getting turned into a pillar of salt for daring to glance in the wrong direction, as hubby escaped to go start a new incest dynasty. There is, as they say, a whoooole "Lot" to unpack there.
I still don't see how the Lot story became a condemnation of man on man sex. The townspeople want to *rape* the strangers, not have sex with them.
Xtians don't read their book. Sodom was destroyed for inhospitality.
And Onan for not fecondating his brother's widow, not for masturbating per se.
By the way, why marrying his child' spouse if forbidden if your country's laws are based on tge babble ?
Yup. Onan got a lightning bolt enema from YHVH for disobedience.
The bible conflicts on whether or not to marry your brother's sister, surprise surprise. Deuteronomy 25:5 says do it. Leviticus 20:21 says don't. Which is it? You can't do both.
Lot's wife was also unnamed. Gives you an idea of how a patriarchal religion feels about women.
Besides, how would they know she was turned to salt if they were forbidden to look back? A "Lot" of funny business going on there.
How did they know? Why, because the bible says so, silly.
Simple- they were only girls. He was just lending them his property.
And later, YHVH killed a man who was only trying to right the Ark of the Covenant so that it wouldn't touch the ground.
The Lord Jealous sure had his priorities in order, didn't he? :S
YHWH is a badly programmed robot. Can't take into account anything but the rules, why does not compute.
There's really nothing that can be said about Ken Ham's delusion that hasn't been said before. The Ark Park is a waste of money and an insult to human intelligence and understanding of how the world works. It's just taken longer for SOME people to catch up to that fact than with others.
I just wish they'd wake the fuck up!
Try praying. It will have the expected outcome: reality.
Well, that's not good news. We need to stop this brainwashing of our children. The dinosaurs lived 65+ million years ago. That CAN be proven. Ken Ham's folly can not!
For me, the Ark Encounter creators' claim that dinosaurs died out because they simply didn't make it onto Noah's Ark (they were too big, apparently) sounds like sheer folly, something I want to poke fun at. What do they say about the small bird-like dinosaurs, like the European Archaeopteryx and the Chinese Caihong (the size of a hooded crow), the larger, but still very small by dinosaur standards, four-winged Microrator (the size of a black raven), and the aquatic Halszkaraptor (the size of a mallard duck)? They're not even the smallest!
When Greek myths were created, the existence of giant fossilized bones was explained even more naively than when the Old (Jewish) and New (Christian) Testaments were created. According to Greek mythology, those with giant bones were human giants! This is where the famous human giants of Greek mythology come from.
Later, the legend that dinosaur bones were supposedly the bones of large proto-humans continued in its own way as a "scientific" theory among Christian anti-Darwinists, to whom the idea of ββhuman origins from ape-like creatures seemed implausible, and, most importantly, humiliating. Even some of my teachers believed in this legend.
My great-grandparents were practicing Jews, but my grandparents, and later my parents, were atheists, and they raised me an atheist. Reading Bible stories didn't make me religious, any more than reading Greek mythology did.
Itβs been said that reading the whole Bible is the best way to create Atheists. For me, it was just reading the right kind of books and reading the passages that pastors in the Christian churches are told to never bring up to their congregation because they might lose their incomeβ $$$ rules everywhere.
Christians create a whole-ass genocide themed family amusement park, but we're the ones exposing kids to age-inappropriate content by, um... *π€π©π¦π€π¬π΄ π―π°π΅π¦π΄* existing. Ok, groomers.
OMG all the folks defending Aldean are saying stuff like βitβs alright for WAP but try that in a small town is bad.β As if the two are remotely comparable. Women being positive about sex, no matter how lewd, is not worse than lynching/genocide. But, the prudish history of the USA demands violence replace sex in media, so of course the βsilent majorityβ (what theyβre claiming right now with the Aldean song getting the Streisand effect and the Sound of Freedom getting artificially inflated box office attendance) thinks WAP is worse.
Genocide is their bread and butter.
Aldean is an example of why I usually can't stand country music, with only a few exceptions. Most country music I find annoying, with the repetitive melodies and the whiny, nasal, fingernails-on-a-chalkboard voices grating on the ears, and if the usually sexist lyrics get through (I can only tune something out for so long) it progresses from annoying to irritating.
I worked at a civic center once, years ago, when an Aldean concert came through town. I was assigned to be an usher, so I heard most of his unimpressive concert. The audience was the real trip. I never saw so many big-ass cowboy hats adorned with all manner of beer bottle caps and turkey feathers and what-not, so many butt-ugly steel-toed cowboy boots, and so many dinner-plated-sized belt buckles all together in one place in my entire life.
And the men were even worse.
Aldean is the epitome of the current crop of country artists. Fake as they come, barely talented, and simply pandering to the Jesus Guns Babies crowd.
My current favorite country artist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqzAsPhmy7o
Not well known, unfortunately
Did you ever hear this one ? it's from 1984 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88sARuFu-tc
The song sounds familiar, but I don't remember the video. I'd be surprised if it played here in '84.
Here's mine. The first openly-gay CW singer from South Africa...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJaV-rqsiU
This video is probably his dream https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PVjiKRfKpPI11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-zEH8YmiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw7gNf_9njs ?
Your first paragraph explains perfectly why I usually don't like country music. And your last sentence, loved it, an excuse to laughing is always welcome.
God wipes out an entire planet except for a drunk and his family and yet xtians see drag queens as the real menace.
Never forget the millions of puppies and kittens who hadn't done anything.
That depresses me every time I think about those poor creatures and how terrified they would have been...if the Flood had really happened.
I wonder if people who tell this horrid story to their kids have ever really thought it through.
And if they did, and realized what that sez about their psycho god, would they have sense enough to be terrified if they still chose to believe...
But that's a hell of a rabbit hole I don't want to go down. I'll just remind myself it never happened and go watch some cute puppy and kitten videos.
Not to mention all those infants. And what about pregnant women?
Seems the god of the bible isn't very pro-life at all.
It's not wrong when the all loving entity does it. If you still refuse to warship it, you'll be living in Hell for the rest of eternity. In Hell they speak trΓΈndersk and way too fast, it's awful.
If I recall correctly, there's only one line in the story of Noah that deals with the eradication of human life as a result of the flood, Genesis 7:23:
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That is all the more commentary the bible has about what amounts to not just genocide but a mass extinction event that supposedly happened some 3,500 years ago. If the utter absurdity of that event in the face of modern forensic history and science isn't enough to put any thinking person off the brand of stupidity that the Ark Park represents, I can't help 'em.
Then again, I did say, "THINKING." Mostly, they don't.
Shoulda written "xenocide" or "omnicide" instead. Damn.
Wiped away people, animals (except for the beasts on the boat) and plants/trees.
What sin did the vast majority of animals and all the plants/trees commit to be consigned to obliteration?
There was only 7 pair of pure and one pair of impure animals or one pair of each on the ark. ALL the others animals were killed right ? So what did the carnivorous animals eat ? I know for a fact that a meat lover will despise plant based food unless the alternative is being forced to swallow a spoonful of honey or jam once a week.
And in one painting, Noah seems to have missed the fact that two male lions were boarding the ark. They'll keep each other company (if you know what I mean) but they would've insured the eventual extinction of lions were that painting accurate.
I imagine Noah checking the genitalias of some venomous snakes π
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Drag race France season 2 started June 30th both on France TV streaming site and on France 2. France television is a group of public channels. I am proud to belong to a country of "groomers" π
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Grifters using the same grift on multiple marks? In other news, the Pope is still Catholic.
Sure, but he might say he's also Hindu if he'd get another check and a new set of... altar boys.
I was disgusted to notice that a few weeks ago CBS Sunday Morning began running advertisements for the Ark park. Really disappointing because the show is otherwise very factual and rational.
Ads I have seen include it as part of Cincinnati tourism. Cincinnati is 50 miles away.
OT - DeNazi's propaganda machine kicks in
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The battle over Floridaβs new African American history standards grows more heated.
https://news.yahoo.com/benefited-slavery-critics-state-examples-204800717.html
Soβ¦heβs courting the pro-slavery vote?
Well, at least the "Whites didn't do anything wrong" vote.
Well to be fair, I suppose you could call it an apprenticeship of sorts.
Permanent indentured servitude.
They have strong wrists for voting. Comes from all that whitewashing they do.
Hilarious. Even if it were true, the only ones who benefited were the ones who were freed after the Civil War. Generations of others were not.
16 out of how many slaves ? What about those who died while crossing the oceans to be sold ? About those who died too young ?
Soooo, according to the flood story god killed all humans except the eight people on the ark. Given that the current human population on earth is 8 billion there is not enough binary pairs of parents to account for the current number of people. Meaning that pedigree collapse has occurred. Ham needs to add another biographical detail the Noahs: They were all mother f-ers.
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Like I've said before, I think Hemant has a bet on when this place collapses.
My guess is right after the appliances' warranties expire, but right before the next insurance bill comes due.
It can't happen fast enough.
(in Bugs Bunny's voice): "Oh, look! A 4-legged aeroplane!"
what up doc?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7yzp40
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069495/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
One of my all-time favorite movies.
Had several Mel Brooks alumni. Kenneth Mars, Liam Dunn and, in her screen debut, Madeline Kahn.
Had to click on this a couple of times. Just showed an ad for Staples the first time.
I had one for diapers...
Something you haven't told us? π
I will have a baby when science make one who doesn't shit and throw up π
Depends.
Yes?
It should be allowed to wilt, like the stark landscapes of Chernobyl, and then preserved as a paintball battle zone!
Well, it already looks π·π’π¨πΆπ¦ππΊ like a boat, so... pirate ship themed paintball arena! No entry permitted except in costume.
With a gift shop. Just like in the original by Noah and Sons.
And elevators! And flush toilets, and electric lighting, and fire sprinklers, and a lightning rod (nothing says "faith in Da Lawd" like a lightning rod), and...
Gee whiz, Noah sure was ahead of his time!
And my favorite, insurance against flood.
Fun fact: in the apocryphal Book of Indemnity, Noah gets indicted for insurance fraud because he knew the flood was coming before he opened the policy.
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If Ham is having such financial difficulties, why doesn't he and one or two others pray to their god for help in Jesus' name? According to his savior, YHVH is supposed to come through in that situation.
As long as they do it in a closet.
(Praying, you perverts ; )
The image of Amish Wolverine getting buck wild with two of his supporters causes my brain to short circuit.
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"We all know what has to happen. Grandma* has to go."
*Or in this case, Grandpa Ken.
I could be wrong but wasnβt Egypt thriving when the earth was βfloodedβ?
Yes, and China, and India, and just about anywhere else you look.
that is just fake evidence given to us from the Devil himself. He is also the one who gave us dinosaur bones
Guess that makes him far smarter and more clever than his opposite number in the clouds.
Europe was way behind technology and agriculture wise. That's your proof the flood happened π
Plus, the banks of the Nile flood annually. It replenishes the soil for the cropss.
You get it wrong, flood stories happening in areas where rivers flood on a regular basis is merely a coincidence.
I don't remember reading anything equivalent of Utnapishtim's myth in Egyptian mythology and lore. In the one with Sekhmet the beer "flood" save humanity.
Yup. Egypt was ancient before the flood. Were that story true, there would've been no Egypt to keep the Hebrews in slavery (another bullshit story, as the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. No exodus and no 40-year walkabout.
I had no idea what this was and had to Google it.
Lucky you β until now of course. π
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Now you know what they mean when they say "Ignorance is bliss." :)
Yeah, it's probably going to take a few years yet for this thing to die like we all hope it will. Right now, it's still all shiny and new, but give it some time to start looking tired, dirty, and dated. I think the numbers we're seeing now would pretty much be the same with or without COVID, and we can expect a slow decline from this point on. Upkeep on the place is only going to get more and more expensive as time moves on.
Right now, Ham's still making too much money, but when the cash cow dries up, that might change. Waiting for it to happen is the hard part.
I've lost any confidence that it will tank. We've been waiting for it to die from a number of years now, and it still staggers on. There is probably enough reservoir of the religious gullible to keep it going for years. Unfortunately.