OT : a bit of a good news at casa de DM. Her last stay at the hospital did her some good. This afternoon she went to the pharmacy by herself while I got my phone instead of waiting at the bakery. She walks faster and need less breaks too.
Maybe Amish Wolverine should concoct a water-based thrill ride that allows park goers to experience that flood first hand. The sealed rollercoaster cars could plunge into the water, bumping aside the bloated corpses of people (especially pregnant women and children) and animals.
Too much? But it would be biblically accurate. And since Ham is a stickler for his bible...
The hell of it is, at this rate, Ham can probably continue to limp along, managing his P&L situation, for who knows how long. He likely has enough repeat traffic to sustain the park, perhaps for a while.
I just wonder when the blush is going to go off the rose for those who continue to support him.
I see the Pope refused to denounce Russia for its actions in Ukraine, especially the killing of children. Such a courageous religious leader. And he did it at World Youth Day gathering in Lisbon, where those youth embraced their Ukrainian peers.
Pope Fluffy exists to remind the world that slapping a plush cover over a rack doesn't make it a couch, just like putting a 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 less vicious Pontiff at the head of the Catholic Church doesn't make it stop being a boil on the ass of human history.
Try to please everyone, and you end up pleasing no one. Francis needs to worry less about who he's appeasing and more about saying what he thinks is right, good or bad.
But you're forgetting all of those UNBORN babies. Since Catholicism is the "one true church," they're certainly all Catholic in the womb (and would remain so if all those other evil religions didn't woo them away). Millions and zillions of unborn souls are crying out from their placentas for Frankie to save them!
I escaped the clutches of catholic church for nearly a year, 15 days before my first birthday. DM choose to lose this battle to win the education war later.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that the same man who built a park founded on a genocidal worldwide flood also rejects the scientific consensus on climate change.
It's yahoos like him who keep convincing other yahoos to roadblock anything even remotely connected to climate change science as "WOKE!!!! Believe this and you'll all go straight to hell!!!!!"
They plan to build a Tower of Babel. Not a good idea.
If you've read the story, you know that people speaking one language built the thing. It made the deity of the bible nervous that if mere humans united in a cause could accomplish this that "nothing will be impossible for them."
So what does the paranoid YHVH do? He fixes it so that they all suddenly speak different languages, cannot understand each other or work together and divides them against one another. The Lord Jealous is the first union buster.
The god of the bible is in the clouds where there's no oxygen.
"God doesn't need to breathe" say the Christians. Then how can he smell the animal sacrifices wafting up to him. Fragrances that are "pleasing to him." How would they even get to him? Does he adjust for the wind?
In the Tanakh, YHVH ( יהוה) is the personal name of God and his most frequent designation, occurring over 6,800 times. This is the Mysterious or "Unutterable Name" of the God of Israel.
But remember, directly inciting a l̸y̸n̸c̸h̸ ̸m̸o̸b̸ 𝘵𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 to s̸t̸o̸r̸m̸ 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘵 the halls of Congress doesn't mean Chump was "behind" the Jan. 6th i̸n̸s̸u̸r̸r̸e̸c̸t̸i̸o̸n̸ 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘰𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺, 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘦𝘤𝘩.
But poor, persecuted Donnie 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 tried to topple the federal government- it's not like he did anything dangerous and criminal, like threaten to hand out free Playstations! 𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘦. 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴. That's, like, 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘮 or something!
It will be antifa the next time they need to condemn riots. The time after that, when they need to protect Orange Man from anything resembling the faintest whiff of a consequence, it'll have been a lawful protest again. It's 𝓂 𝒶 ℊ 𝒾 𝒸!
Biden appointed Garland who appointed Smith...who created a grand jury of 16 to 23 members who examined the evidence and voted to indict. Let's not forget the panel of citizens behind the indictment. If they hadn't voted to prosecute, there isn't much Smith, Garland or Biden could have legitimately done.
But it's actually Obama who controls Biden, and we all know Soros owns Obama. Now if only we knew who was pulling the strings on Soros. I'm betting Xi or Putin. Perhaps both.
With the filing of special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment, the prosecution of former president Donald Trump for 2020 election interference—perhaps the most consequential in our nation’s history—has begun. But so has Trump’s defense, with the post-indictment media blitz of co-lead defense counsel John Lauro (with whom one of us, Norm Eisen, used to practice criminal law). Lauro laid out the entire five-part structure of Trump’s defense, and it is not to be taken lightly—even though, after much drama, we expect all five elements to fail.
Trump's "defense" appears to be a house of cards. The prosecution won't need to take a lung full of air to topple it. All the prosecution will need is a gentle puff to send those cards flying.
In the indictment Smith anticipated the "free speech" defense and shot it down, quite definitively. It's hard to fathom why they're using it and think it has a chance of winning.
Actually, that carousel is really kind of cool. It will join the panorama that is Americana... Silly, obscure, sometimes chintzy, and all together over the top.
Yeah, but carousels are a dime a dozen, so it’s not worth spending time in Kentucky, paying $25 to park and whatever nonsense is the entrance fee, just to ride the carousel. No matter how “unique” the animals are.
I am. There is a very big difference between some nut taking it into his head to assassinate a leader (which obviously STILL happens, is very much illegal and should be punished via any means short of the death penalty) and the state itself "legally" taking the life of the condemned (and risking an innocent person being murdered, hence such organizations as the Death Penalty Project and the Innocence Project).
That's like saying it is okay for the police to drop of a gang member in his neighborhood knowing that his cohorts have the impression he cooperated with police. (Yes, it's a plot from 'The Closer' but it still makes the point) It's an official act with a consequence of death that any reasonable person could foresee.
It's like the preacher who tells people that God wants gay people dead, when some nut case who listened to him say that over and over goes and shoots up a gay nightclub. Despite not directly doing the deed, the preacher still has blood on his hands.
It's still wrongful, illegal actions by individuals (which are impossible to stop, as we have seen by mass shooting after mass shooting, even in states that have sensible gun control) versus willful taking of life by the state. You cannot equate the two. And all of us are at risk at the hands of random maniacs every day (again, the seemingly-endless shootings show this).
You automatically assume that any former President who gets their lifetime SS protection will be murdered. That is a very big assumption.
We're not going to agree on this, so I will withdraw at this point.
All governments have an obligation it seems to me to protect people in prison from violence, yet violence is common in prisons. And nobody outside the victims really seems to care. And what puzzles me a little bit in litigious USA, I don't remember reading about anyone suing after being attacked in jail.
Rhetorical violence encourages physical acts of violence and murder. The country song “Try That in a Small Town” is an example rhetorical violence, the song it threaten vigilante violence against fellow citizens who do not comport themselves as the small town denizens see fit.
How do we get Congress to change the law? If they simply repeal it, several ex-Presidents and their families are almost certain to be murdered. You'd never get the votes that it only be removed from convicted criminals. Removing SS protection from Trump would almost certainly have the same foreseeable outcome as sentencing him to death. While I will likely have a truly pleasant day when I hear Trump is no more, I don't think it's a good precedent to set.
The ONLY condition under which I would say that Trump's Secret Service detail should be removed is, once again, when and if he is convicted and incarcerated. As has been observed elsewhere, he would then be the responsibility of that particular Department of Corrections and their security department. Forcing the Secret Service to continue to cover his ass strikes me as cruel and unusual punishment for THEM.
As for Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, not one of them has so much as been formally accused of any crime, let alone convicted, so their details continue pro forma.
AIUI the current law, his SS detail can't be removed unless he requests it. I don't think we could get through Congress a bill to change the law to remove his SS detail if he's convicted.
As for DOC, one they don't have a good track record anywhere in the country, two they have hundred if not thousands of other prisoners they also are tasked with protecting.
Don't get me wrong, I want him to face the maximum punishment the law allows for his crimes. I just don't think he'd be safe in a standard prison and the government would bear some responsibility for anything that happened to him.
Personally, though I find it horribly unsatisfying, I think the best thing that could happen for the country is for the hamberders to get him before he's convicted.
I think he'll either escape prison, or get some sort of home detention. When you look at the list of countries that have imprisoned ex-presidents and other important politicians, most of them were not democracies. And let's face it, the US justice system is susceptible to people with money. Trump's lawyers will delay, obfuscate, appeal, and appeal again – I wouldn't be surprised if he dies free.
My only hope is that his lawyers by now are down to the incompetent. Those that will work for public exposure rather than actual money.
I see that as a problem, putting all these America-hating fascists together where they will spend their days reinforcing each other's neonazis beliefs.
While I'm inclined to agree that house arrest may well be the only solution, I'm less than happy about an after-conviction Trump having what amounts to a private prison all to himself. Your reasoning is sound, and I agree that holding him in solitary for his entire incarceration would indeed be cruel; I'm just not terribly happy with the compromise since it has the side effect of possibly making it look like we have one set of laws for the wealthy and another for the less so.
I also worry that if Trump does wind up under house arrest for some time, he'll find ways of abusing the fact he's not actually in prison. I don't trust Trump, and I am inclined to guess that anytime someone gives him an inch he takes several thousand miles; house arrest for him may look more like a trip to a spa than the punishment it's intended to be.
Holding him in solitary might be cruel for Trump but not necessarily for other people. Trump only needs people to feed his own ego, and to use for his own ends.
I feel much the same. I worry that in an apartment, he'll find ways around his incarceration and house arrest at Mar-a-Lago is more a lifetime Spa vacation other than the fact he can't leave.
I've been asking people who should know about this for a long time now. No one seemed to know anything – maybe because it seemed unlikely at the time. Now that it's a bit more likely people are a bit more knowledgeable. 😁
If we remove lifetime SS protection for ex-Presidents, Barak Obama is dead. Probably so are Bill and Hillary Clinton. Unless they can pay for an equivalent private security force.
I don't see it being logistically feasible to have an SS detail in a prison setting, so the SS would have to be his jailers at some other location. The cost to build such a location specifically for him would be prohibitive and money better spent elsewhere. I will be furious if he gets off with fines, probation or 'community service', but I think house arrest will be the logical conclusion. I just hope they mandate something other than *his* house.
Although it does occur to me that Alcatraz is available.
Oh, I'd be perfectly 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦 with building a new facility 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 for him. We could even work it into the concept of "home confinement" and put the new single-cell prison smack in the middle of the fairway at Mar-a-Lago, so he can look out the window at all the other rich assholes cheating at golf without him, or out the 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 window at the gigantic luxury resort he used to live in. They could even hang a little model of his name-branded 757 outside to remind him that he'll never get to fly anywhere ever again!
What I hope for is a midrange apartment building completely taken over to house him and his SS jailers. With a view of Trump Tower in NYC would be icing.
Only if he gets the tiniest unit, with a drippy faucet and noisy window AC, no TV, no internet, and only the lowest-quality Walmart furniture- preferably right next to the elevator shaft for the true low-budget apartment experience- while the Secret Service detail gets the penthouse as a crash pad with all the bells and whistles.
Quite a satisfying scenario, but one unlikely, two expensive, and the government does have better places to spend that money (granted given the current government it's at best an even chance they *would*)
111,000+... Is this display of ignorance open on Sunday or even 7 days every week? It's hard to do the math without knowing that and also knowing the hours of operation so I could break those numbers down to real numbers by the day or by the hour.
To me it gets more of an accurate picture if we can see how heavy the foot traffic is on an average.
As it comes to the whole "ignorance" thing, I am still reminded of when Bill Nye tried to convey to people that the moon is only a reflected light source to an audience in Texas, only to be confronted with: "We believe the bible here!"
That kind of stupid genuinely disturbs me, and Ken Ham ain't helpin'.
Then I would ask, what are you doing coming to see a guy known to promote science as Truth rather than your ancient, cruel, contradictory book that claims to be Truth even though it is demonstrably *wrong* about some things.
Sadly, stupid ain't much for logic. I wonder if such people think that their cell phones work by magic ... or the screens in their car or at home, never mind the sophisticated fuel metering systems which allow their cars to be WAY more efficient than they were half a century ago.
These are the poster children for the "Ignorance is Bliss" campaign, I guess. 🤦♂️
"The department believes AP Psychology can be taught in its entirety in a manner that is 𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒍𝒐𝒑𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 appropriate and the course remains listed in our course catalog," Diaz wrote in the Aug. 4 letter to school officials.
Which means what exactly? Just more weasel words from 𝕳𝔢𝖗𝔯 Diaz. A few school districts in the bay area have switched to the Cambridge course and are not switching back.
Age is one thing, it is at least objective. But developmentally, what does that mean? How do you determine it? If we could determine developmentally appropriate, statutory rape laws wouldn't be based on age.
It becomes much easier to determine when you're a Republican, and don't consider education about sex, gender, race... or really, much of 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 else besides church services, to be appropriate at 𝘢𝘯𝘺 age.
OT : a bit of a good news at casa de DM. Her last stay at the hospital did her some good. This afternoon she went to the pharmacy by herself while I got my phone instead of waiting at the bakery. She walks faster and need less breaks too.
Good News!
Maybe Amish Wolverine should concoct a water-based thrill ride that allows park goers to experience that flood first hand. The sealed rollercoaster cars could plunge into the water, bumping aside the bloated corpses of people (especially pregnant women and children) and animals.
Too much? But it would be biblically accurate. And since Ham is a stickler for his bible...
It would be more realistic if the cars remained unsealed!
True. But I don't want to be cruel. I'm not a Christian, after all. 🙂
Killjoy!
I have an unfortunate streak of morality. Dashed inconvenient.
Um, realism and Christianity are strangers to each other.
Stop. Now I'm thinking about the poor puppies and kittens.
But it didn't really happen, it didn't really happen, it didn't really happen....
Okay, fine now. If only it were that easy to subdue all post-religious trauma.....
The hell of it is, at this rate, Ham can probably continue to limp along, managing his P&L situation, for who knows how long. He likely has enough repeat traffic to sustain the park, perhaps for a while.
I just wonder when the blush is going to go off the rose for those who continue to support him.
I see the Pope refused to denounce Russia for its actions in Ukraine, especially the killing of children. Such a courageous religious leader. And he did it at World Youth Day gathering in Lisbon, where those youth embraced their Ukrainian peers.
Guess we can see who is truly pro-life.
Pope Fluffy exists to remind the world that slapping a plush cover over a rack doesn't make it a couch, just like putting a 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 less vicious Pontiff at the head of the Catholic Church doesn't make it stop being a boil on the ass of human history.
Every time Jorge opens his mouth, I hear:
🎶 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss 🎶
What do you mean? This one speaks Latin with a different accent.
Oh. That's different, of course. ;)
To be fair the catholics are only pro life when it comes controlling women.
And keeping altar boys stocked.
Be fair, now. Priests like choir boys too.
Variety being the spice of life and all.
Trying to appease pro-Putin Catholics, probably.
Try to please everyone, and you end up pleasing no one. Francis needs to worry less about who he's appeasing and more about saying what he thinks is right, good or bad.
But...but...but that might hurt the bottom line! Horrors!
The other option is to just SHUT THE FUCK UP! I'm okay with him choosing that option
But you're forgetting all of those UNBORN babies. Since Catholicism is the "one true church," they're certainly all Catholic in the womb (and would remain so if all those other evil religions didn't woo them away). Millions and zillions of unborn souls are crying out from their placentas for Frankie to save them!
FETUS: "What's a Catholic?" (pause) "And what the fuck's religion?"
So, baptism is useless then ?
Just like anything to do with religion.
I nearly escaped it, until my paternal grandmother put her nose where it didn't belong 😤
I have no memory of mine. I was very young then.
The fact that I don't even remember it gives you some idea of its "effectiveness."
I escaped the clutches of catholic church for nearly a year, 15 days before my first birthday. DM choose to lose this battle to win the education war later.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that the same man who built a park founded on a genocidal worldwide flood also rejects the scientific consensus on climate change.
If we don't do something about climate change, he may get that worldwide flood he's so enamored of.
Exactly.
It's yahoos like him who keep convincing other yahoos to roadblock anything even remotely connected to climate change science as "WOKE!!!! Believe this and you'll all go straight to hell!!!!!"
They plan to build a Tower of Babel. Not a good idea.
If you've read the story, you know that people speaking one language built the thing. It made the deity of the bible nervous that if mere humans united in a cause could accomplish this that "nothing will be impossible for them."
So what does the paranoid YHVH do? He fixes it so that they all suddenly speak different languages, cannot understand each other or work together and divides them against one another. The Lord Jealous is the first union buster.
And evidently he was too stupid to realize that building a tower to heaven is impossible. Omniscient, my ass.
A stairway, on the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=763LhBbkbX0
Or ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhCPt6PZIU
Though to be honest, one of my least favourite songs.
The god of the bible is in the clouds where there's no oxygen.
"God doesn't need to breathe" say the Christians. Then how can he smell the animal sacrifices wafting up to him. Fragrances that are "pleasing to him." How would they even get to him? Does he adjust for the wind?
Yep, he should have known they didn't have the technology to build a space elevator back then.
Or now.
YHVH? I guess I'm not up on my acronyms.
Tetragrammaton - four letter Hebrew theonym transliterated as YHVH.
In the Tanakh, YHVH ( יהוה) is the personal name of God and his most frequent designation, occurring over 6,800 times. This is the Mysterious or "Unutterable Name" of the God of Israel.
https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/YHVH/yhvh.html#loaded
Yahweh (though the w is pronounced as a v).
Oy Weh!
Educational hub? EDUCATIONAL HUB!? That's it, if AiG can have an 'educational hub' then words don't mean anything anymore. Dammit I need more coffee.
Irish?
Or Antillais with rum.
Lying liars...
" 'I'm just gonna stop you': CNN host slams Trump lawyer's claim Biden is behind Trump prosecution."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-m-gonna-stop-you-cnn-host-slams-trump-lawyer-s-claim-biden-is-behind-trump-prosecution/ar-AA1eRz1v
Biden appointed Garland who appointed Smith: in MAGA world, that autoamatically means that Biden is "behind" Trump's federal indictments.
But remember, directly inciting a l̸y̸n̸c̸h̸ ̸m̸o̸b̸ 𝘵𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘨𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 to s̸t̸o̸r̸m̸ 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘵 the halls of Congress doesn't mean Chump was "behind" the Jan. 6th i̸n̸s̸u̸r̸r̸e̸c̸t̸i̸o̸n̸ 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘰𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺, 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘦𝘤𝘩.
*𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩*
On the other hand.
https://www.alternet.org/the-black-man-is-charged/
But poor, persecuted Donnie 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 tried to topple the federal government- it's not like he did anything dangerous and criminal, like threaten to hand out free Playstations! 𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘦. 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴. That's, like, 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘮 or something!
It's not antifas anymore ?
It will be antifa the next time they need to condemn riots. The time after that, when they need to protect Orange Man from anything resembling the faintest whiff of a consequence, it'll have been a lawful protest again. It's 𝓂 𝒶 ℊ 𝒾 𝒸!
Of course, it was (along with Black Lives Matter and the FBI)! Don't listen to woke communists like Joan./s
I don't listen to men 😏
I don't blame you
Biden appointed Garland who appointed Smith...who created a grand jury of 16 to 23 members who examined the evidence and voted to indict. Let's not forget the panel of citizens behind the indictment. If they hadn't voted to prosecute, there isn't much Smith, Garland or Biden could have legitimately done.
But it's actually Obama who controls Biden, and we all know Soros owns Obama. Now if only we knew who was pulling the strings on Soros. I'm betting Xi or Putin. Perhaps both.
Hillary. They all work for Hillary in the end. :S
It's Darwin.
You are using reason and logic, that's your mistake.
Rethuglikkkan logix.
𝐎𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐔𝐬 𝐖𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐃𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐲. 𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞’𝐬 𝐇𝐨𝐰 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐒𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐂𝐚𝐧 𝐁𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐇𝐢𝐦.
With the filing of special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment, the prosecution of former president Donald Trump for 2020 election interference—perhaps the most consequential in our nation’s history—has begun. But so has Trump’s defense, with the post-indictment media blitz of co-lead defense counsel John Lauro (with whom one of us, Norm Eisen, used to practice criminal law). Lauro laid out the entire five-part structure of Trump’s defense, and it is not to be taken lightly—even though, after much drama, we expect all five elements to fail.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/jack-smith-versus-trump-defense-attorney-john-lauro.html
Lauro. Funny way to spell Klayman.
Trump's "defense" appears to be a house of cards. The prosecution won't need to take a lung full of air to topple it. All the prosecution will need is a gentle puff to send those cards flying.
In the indictment Smith anticipated the "free speech" defense and shot it down, quite definitively. It's hard to fathom why they're using it and think it has a chance of winning.
It's not like they have any good defense at all.
Freedumb! 'Murica! Jesus! MAGA!
(What more do they need? 🤔)
Court of Public Opinion is where Dotard is trying to have his case adjudicated. The goal is to win 2024 and self-pardon.
They work for a guy (Trump) that keeps suing and losing; keeps making asinine claims and losing.
In short they work for a guy who fits the definition of someone who is clinically insane.
And unless they got paid upfront are going to tank their reputations for pennies.
Trump is so corrupt, it's his lawyers who might do time.
Pulling a gun and saying "stick 'em up!" isn't covered by the 1A.... something about furtherance of a crime.....
When did CNN grow a backbone? And I hope we see more of it.
Hope it's not just a stopped clock moment for FOX Lite.
Dana Bash has always been a tough but fair reporter (IMO, anyway).
Port Aventura (Spain) 3 750 000 visitors in 2022.
Bonne soiree (sorry, no l'accent aigu on my keyboard)!
In the neighboring red state to mine, The Houston Museum of Science draws 1.5 million visitors a year.
Texas is all about science until it contradicts their belief in God and oil.
https://ifunny.co/picture/call-jimmy-buffett-i-found-it-sMqRmGDGA
Some people claim there's a woman to blame for that, you know.
And I know it's my own damn fault
It all started when you blew out your flip-flop stepping on a pop-top?
at least I got a nice new tattoo of a Mexican cutie to show for it..
No clue as to how it got there, but still...
I just know it involved a lot of tequila
Hillary.
https://www.zentaur.org/memes/buttery_males.jpg (any excuse)
Oh, those buttery males.
Where can I get some?
Trump stole it and put it there. Time for more criminal charges, Jack! *smiles*
Heard it was also trump who started those fires.... with the Jewish space lasers
There's no way Israel gave Trump (or MTG) access to those lasers. Cyber warfare against one of our 'allies'.
The truth finally comes out!
a little bit of good news.
https://nationalzero.com/2023/08/05/texas-maga-terrorist-gets-42-months-over-threatening-to-murder-election-workers-children-of-maricopa-county-arizona-officials/
Wanna bet he's Christian? That he only got 42 months is kind of a clue.
that is also a sucker bet.
any one wanna bet me Frederick Francis Goltz considers himself pro life?
Sucker bet.
Actually, that carousel is really kind of cool. It will join the panorama that is Americana... Silly, obscure, sometimes chintzy, and all together over the top.
Yeah, but carousels are a dime a dozen, so it’s not worth spending time in Kentucky, paying $25 to park and whatever nonsense is the entrance fee, just to ride the carousel. No matter how “unique” the animals are.
I still think after a few years of disrepair, the park could be turned into a very nifty paintball battlefield.
It’s already looking like a few years of disrepair. At least from the outside.
Time for some COD....
https://youtu.be/y23_ds61zcc
OT - Bad news
𝐈𝐟 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐢𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝, 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐭 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐚𝐲 𝐛𝐞 𝐨𝐛𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐜𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/if-convicted-trump-secret-service-protection-may-rule-out-prison/ar-AA1eNtdk
Far as I'm concerned, if/WHEN Trump is convicted, his Secret Service detail should be FORFEITED!!!
Any discussion?
The man tried to pull off an insurrection. He's a traitor to his country. Where does he get off having Secret Service protection for life? Or at all?
I thought you were against the death penalty.
I am. There is a very big difference between some nut taking it into his head to assassinate a leader (which obviously STILL happens, is very much illegal and should be punished via any means short of the death penalty) and the state itself "legally" taking the life of the condemned (and risking an innocent person being murdered, hence such organizations as the Death Penalty Project and the Innocence Project).
They are not the same at all.
That's like saying it is okay for the police to drop of a gang member in his neighborhood knowing that his cohorts have the impression he cooperated with police. (Yes, it's a plot from 'The Closer' but it still makes the point) It's an official act with a consequence of death that any reasonable person could foresee.
It's like the preacher who tells people that God wants gay people dead, when some nut case who listened to him say that over and over goes and shoots up a gay nightclub. Despite not directly doing the deed, the preacher still has blood on his hands.
It's still wrongful, illegal actions by individuals (which are impossible to stop, as we have seen by mass shooting after mass shooting, even in states that have sensible gun control) versus willful taking of life by the state. You cannot equate the two. And all of us are at risk at the hands of random maniacs every day (again, the seemingly-endless shootings show this).
You automatically assume that any former President who gets their lifetime SS protection will be murdered. That is a very big assumption.
We're not going to agree on this, so I will withdraw at this point.
All governments have an obligation it seems to me to protect people in prison from violence, yet violence is common in prisons. And nobody outside the victims really seems to care. And what puzzles me a little bit in litigious USA, I don't remember reading about anyone suing after being attacked in jail.
Rhetorical violence encourages physical acts of violence and murder. The country song “Try That in a Small Town” is an example rhetorical violence, the song it threaten vigilante violence against fellow citizens who do not comport themselves as the small town denizens see fit.
How do we get Congress to change the law? If they simply repeal it, several ex-Presidents and their families are almost certain to be murdered. You'd never get the votes that it only be removed from convicted criminals. Removing SS protection from Trump would almost certainly have the same foreseeable outcome as sentencing him to death. While I will likely have a truly pleasant day when I hear Trump is no more, I don't think it's a good precedent to set.
The ONLY condition under which I would say that Trump's Secret Service detail should be removed is, once again, when and if he is convicted and incarcerated. As has been observed elsewhere, he would then be the responsibility of that particular Department of Corrections and their security department. Forcing the Secret Service to continue to cover his ass strikes me as cruel and unusual punishment for THEM.
As for Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, not one of them has so much as been formally accused of any crime, let alone convicted, so their details continue pro forma.
AIUI the current law, his SS detail can't be removed unless he requests it. I don't think we could get through Congress a bill to change the law to remove his SS detail if he's convicted.
As for DOC, one they don't have a good track record anywhere in the country, two they have hundred if not thousands of other prisoners they also are tasked with protecting.
Don't get me wrong, I want him to face the maximum punishment the law allows for his crimes. I just don't think he'd be safe in a standard prison and the government would bear some responsibility for anything that happened to him.
Personally, though I find it horribly unsatisfying, I think the best thing that could happen for the country is for the hamberders to get him before he's convicted.
I think he'll either escape prison, or get some sort of home detention. When you look at the list of countries that have imprisoned ex-presidents and other important politicians, most of them were not democracies. And let's face it, the US justice system is susceptible to people with money. Trump's lawyers will delay, obfuscate, appeal, and appeal again – I wouldn't be surprised if he dies free.
My only hope is that his lawyers by now are down to the incompetent. Those that will work for public exposure rather than actual money.
Supermax?
I suspect his only chance would be solitary and on general principle, I don't like the idea of anyone in solitary.
Let him make a deal with his fellow inmates to get protection.
And NO, I'm not that cruel that he should be their bitch like in the movies.
Lock him up together with all the convicted Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and other Capitol Terrorists.
They already proved that they are ready to go trough hell for him.
I see that as a problem, putting all these America-hating fascists together where they will spend their days reinforcing each other's neonazis beliefs.
Yeah, that's what FoxSnooze is for.
I've said that for weeks if not months. He'll get house arrest. If we're lucky the judge will mandate it somewhere non-palatial.
While I'm inclined to agree that house arrest may well be the only solution, I'm less than happy about an after-conviction Trump having what amounts to a private prison all to himself. Your reasoning is sound, and I agree that holding him in solitary for his entire incarceration would indeed be cruel; I'm just not terribly happy with the compromise since it has the side effect of possibly making it look like we have one set of laws for the wealthy and another for the less so.
I also worry that if Trump does wind up under house arrest for some time, he'll find ways of abusing the fact he's not actually in prison. I don't trust Trump, and I am inclined to guess that anytime someone gives him an inch he takes several thousand miles; house arrest for him may look more like a trip to a spa than the punishment it's intended to be.
No more drooling hordes of MAGATs worshiping his orange ass at his Nazi rallies.
Holding him in solitary might be cruel for Trump but not necessarily for other people. Trump only needs people to feed his own ego, and to use for his own ends.
I feel much the same. I worry that in an apartment, he'll find ways around his incarceration and house arrest at Mar-a-Lago is more a lifetime Spa vacation other than the fact he can't leave.
Maybe in some shithole red state.
If I still prayed, I would ask that it would be in some other shithole red state than one I am exiled to.
the SS would be in a state of siege in Texas.
I have also read that he will not need SS protection since he will be in federal protection at all times
There was a editorial cartoon this morning consisting of a 2024 ballot that asks "IS THE PRESIDENT ABOVE THE LAW?
There are two choices: YES with Trump's picture under it and NO with Biden's picture under it.
Must be a red state ballot.
Interviewer: "If Trump is reelected, will it be ok for him to pardon himself, his family members and close associates?"
MAGAt: "Sure! In fact it should be the first thing he does."
Interviewer: "Republicans think that Joe and Hunter Biden have broken some laws. Is it ok for Joe, as President, to pardon himself and his son?"
MAGAt: "No way. The President can't just pardon his way out of ... legal... t r o u b l e...Hey this is a trick question isn't it? No fair!"
Republicans are easy to spot. They always wear two faces.
I've been asking people who should know about this for a long time now. No one seemed to know anything – maybe because it seemed unlikely at the time. Now that it's a bit more likely people are a bit more knowledgeable. 😁
So much for "No man is above the law."
If we remove lifetime SS protection for ex-Presidents, Barak Obama is dead. Probably so are Bill and Hillary Clinton. Unless they can pay for an equivalent private security force.
I don't see it being logistically feasible to have an SS detail in a prison setting, so the SS would have to be his jailers at some other location. The cost to build such a location specifically for him would be prohibitive and money better spent elsewhere. I will be furious if he gets off with fines, probation or 'community service', but I think house arrest will be the logical conclusion. I just hope they mandate something other than *his* house.
Although it does occur to me that Alcatraz is available.
Oh, I'd be perfectly 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦 with building a new facility 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 for him. We could even work it into the concept of "home confinement" and put the new single-cell prison smack in the middle of the fairway at Mar-a-Lago, so he can look out the window at all the other rich assholes cheating at golf without him, or out the 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 window at the gigantic luxury resort he used to live in. They could even hang a little model of his name-branded 757 outside to remind him that he'll never get to fly anywhere ever again!
What I hope for is a midrange apartment building completely taken over to house him and his SS jailers. With a view of Trump Tower in NYC would be icing.
Only if he gets the tiniest unit, with a drippy faucet and noisy window AC, no TV, no internet, and only the lowest-quality Walmart furniture- preferably right next to the elevator shaft for the true low-budget apartment experience- while the Secret Service detail gets the penthouse as a crash pad with all the bells and whistles.
I wasn't going to give him an elevator. No internet we might get since he tends to abuse that and would almost certainly leak government secrets.
And logistically, the SS would almost certainly be stationed on the lower floors to form a barrier from the street.
Somewhere in the South Bronx would be great.
Quite a satisfying scenario, but one unlikely, two expensive, and the government does have better places to spend that money (granted given the current government it's at best an even chance they *would*)
Every time I try to like Joan's post, I get a "Something went wrong" popup. 🤔
111,000+... Is this display of ignorance open on Sunday or even 7 days every week? It's hard to do the math without knowing that and also knowing the hours of operation so I could break those numbers down to real numbers by the day or by the hour.
To me it gets more of an accurate picture if we can see how heavy the foot traffic is on an average.
As it comes to the whole "ignorance" thing, I am still reminded of when Bill Nye tried to convey to people that the moon is only a reflected light source to an audience in Texas, only to be confronted with: "We believe the bible here!"
That kind of stupid genuinely disturbs me, and Ken Ham ain't helpin'.
Gravity is not mentionned in the bible. Let them jump from a cliff.
And it is just a 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘰𝘳𝘺 after all.
Then I would ask, what are you doing coming to see a guy known to promote science as Truth rather than your ancient, cruel, contradictory book that claims to be Truth even though it is demonstrably *wrong* about some things.
Sadly, stupid ain't much for logic. I wonder if such people think that their cell phones work by magic ... or the screens in their car or at home, never mind the sophisticated fuel metering systems which allow their cars to be WAY more efficient than they were half a century ago.
These are the poster children for the "Ignorance is Bliss" campaign, I guess. 🤦♂️
If you don't mind it in your browser history, I'm quite sure the days and hours of operation are listed on their website.
I was talking rhetorically. Anyway, roughly it’s about 309 people per hour taking account of 30 days a month & 7 days a week.
gooood
https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-officials-state-schools-teach-ap-psychology-entirety/story?id=102030805
"The department believes AP Psychology can be taught in its entirety in a manner that is 𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒍𝒐𝒑𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 appropriate and the course remains listed in our course catalog," Diaz wrote in the Aug. 4 letter to school officials.
Which means what exactly? Just more weasel words from 𝕳𝔢𝖗𝔯 Diaz. A few school districts in the bay area have switched to the Cambridge course and are not switching back.
Age is one thing, it is at least objective. But developmentally, what does that mean? How do you determine it? If we could determine developmentally appropriate, statutory rape laws wouldn't be based on age.
It becomes much easier to determine when you're a Republican, and don't consider education about sex, gender, race... or really, much of 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 else besides church services, to be appropriate at 𝘢𝘯𝘺 age.
OT - Speaking of Simon & Garfunkel
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Just got through downing my basic necessity in a cup.
Too much blood in the caffeine stream?
Decided not wait for my doctor to put me on blood thinners.