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She evidently has more concern for the tiny cluster of nonviable cells growing in the wrong place than she does her seven living children. In my view having seven children in this day and age isn't responsible behavior either. The world does not suffer from a lack of people. It doesn't say if she's a part of the obscene 'Quiver Full' movement which seeks to breed an army of Christian zealots to take over the world, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me. Christians tend to attribute all that's good with the world to their God and religion, while ignoring the countless horrors perpetrated by religious people in the name of their religion. All the world's evil is the fault of everyone who doesn't think they way they do.

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I was just thinking about this subject on the way to work. Pretty much every ectopic pregnancy, by the time the situation is recognized the development of both the placenta and the zef have been compromised beyond recovery. That zef is not viable whether it still has a heartbeat or not. The doctor has already noticed the developmental deficiencies in the fetus here, but she writes it off as perfectly normal, it is not. And it will only get worse as the pregnancy progresses. Of course she could survive but it is less likely. And I don’t believe her when she says she has seen many stories of both the mother and baby surviving an entire pregnancy like this. If I had time, I’d check it out for myself, but since she wasn’t willing to prove it herself, I don’t believe her. (There may be a handful, I’ll admit that much only because of the law of probability not that she’s actually found any.)

I was also thinking about the stories of women who have in the past and are now going through it again with the new draconian murder women laws where the fetus is unviable, dead, except for some faint heartbeats detected, and the woman is actively bleeding out and suffering from sepsis and other health catastrophe who are turned away until the fetus is “officially dead”. What is the thinking here? You aren’t trying to save the fetus, you don’t even have any intervention that you could do to save the fetus, it is going to die no matter what you do, it’s not going to suddenly get better in the parking lot all by itself. So why are you not doing everything you can to save the actual person in front of you who has interventions available that can save them? I hear that the forced birther, women murderers, don’t want to actively kill the baby, leave it to godswill, but that isn’t what’s happening n these situations. The fetus is dead, there’s no coming back from its situation, it just has some residual electrical impulses in tiny cells (that offend haven’t even developed into the actual organ yet) it won’t survive, aborting at this point is not killing anything. But you are actively killing the person carrying the fetus. Your lack of action is action when you are able to help, to intervene. Her blood is on your hands. If you claim dying for a doomed pregnancy is godswill, then when you’re diagnosed with cancer or other deadly but treatable diseases, we could withhold care from you claiming godswill just as gladly. No other medical crisis is ever ignored because of godswill and none should be, including doomed pregnancies with a detectable fetal heartbeat. I don’t see the rationale of forcing women to bleed out or die from sepsis to save the fetus that’s never going to make it. Aside from rejoicing in another woman’s death, there’s no there, there.

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