The one of the few good things I can say about the Catholic Church, having grown up in it, is that the majority of Catholics take their religion with a grain of salt. There are, however, Catholic fundamentalists who are every bit as intolerant as every other fundamentalist. This seems to be the case with the man opposing the admission of trans women. Their solution to every problem is turning back the clock, which never works.
I see from the tweets referenced above that Railey Gaines has seen fit to weigh in on this. Guess she's still all butthurt about tying for fifth place with a trans woman in a college swim competition. She already caused enough damage to trans women's ability to compete in women's sports (as if less competition would have made her a better swimmer), now she wants them barred from all women's colleges as well.
I mean, tying for fifth place for chrissakes, and here it is a year later and she's still smoldering over it. Guess what, Riley, at least four other women did better in that competition than either you or the trans woman you hate so much. She made a decent showing, but she's hardly the threat you make her out to be. Let me pour you a nice tall glass of get the fuck over yourself. Oh, and here's a straw so you can suck it up.
Like the Catholic Church had a mission during the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Medieval Witch Hunts, the Conquistadores, the convert-or-die missionaries in the 'New World'...
Look at your religion's bloody history, Ms./Mrs. Ezell. Trans women are what get you riled? How do feel about the RCC and its traditional treatment of women? Have you withheld giving your money at Mass on Sunday due to the RCCs appalling track record on child sexual abuse by its clergy? Maybe it's time for you to sort out your priorities.
"Medical Freedom." Christianese for "Freedom to infect both our children and yours with deadly diseases because our imaginary friend takes priority over all health and safety." Not surprised this is happening in Mississippi. They're tied with Alabama as the most religious state in the country. What IS surprising is that for 4 decades they had one of the strictest school vaccination requirements in the USofA.
I keep saying it. Unless you are a Christian Scientist or a member of the Dutch Reformed Church, you have no religious basis for being opposed to vaccination.
[Hear the word of the Lord, you rulers of Sodom; listen to the instruction of our God, you people of Gomorrah! The multitude of your sacrifices— what are they to me?” says the Lord.
“I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you,this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations— I cannot bear your worthless assemblies. Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals I hate with all my being. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them.
When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening.
Your hands are full of blood!
Wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight; stop doing wrong. Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.]
Forgive the long quote. God supposedly told his people that he hates all of the religious ritual. He hates people having worship services while the people lack love and empathy and a passion for justice for those who are poor or oppressed or ostracized by the larger culture and community.
I wouldn't expect a Catholic Bishop to particularly care about my interpretation of the Bible, but having studied this book most of my life, I would say that this message about loving the "least of these" being more important than religious ritual stretches from Isaiah to Jesus.
Granted, Ezra and Nehemiah emphasize the opposite. But Ezra and Nehemiah were assholes. And so are you, Bishop, if you cannot love your trans-neighbor as yourself and cling to your bigoted dogma.
I just received my flu shot and latest cootie (my name for covid in 2020, not to downplay it, but to keep me from losing my mind) vaccine. Primed for winter.
"The Vatican says trans identities seek to 'annihilate the concept of nature'“
It might annihilate YOUR concept of nature, but nature is far, far more complicated than your childishly simplistic, centuries-behind concept. One of the most complicated parts of nature is human nature, and one of the most complicated parts of that is human sexuality. Nature owes nothing to you to fit into your self-serving little box. Your vain, naïve concepts are like flimsy folded paper boats on a vast, stormy sea. Nature doesn't give a damn about your concepts, and increasingly, society is dismissing them too.
"… After a formal warning, [Bishop Rhoades] could prohibit the university from identifying itself as Catholic..."
Since Catholic institutions are increasingly using that word as a fading status symbol rather than a statement of fealty to an aging, legalistic anachronism, perhaps the college could proudly rename themselves "Mary's EX CATHOLIC College," and enjoy even more prestige based entirely on their academic excellence and progressive policies.
Normally, I try to avoid reading too much into things, but in this case, I'm sort of feeling like this bishop is just mad his privileged opinion wasn't asked by the women he seems to think are subordinate to him.
Kudos to St. Mary's for at least attempting to do the right thing. My guess is that this bishop is going to be difficult about it for a while, though. I still would like to see religion out of education, but I'm willing to give them credit for making the effort where it's due. I guess we'll see if it lasts.
When the Catholic Church starts taking the pedo priest thing seriously is when I stop completely ignoring them on matters of morality. I won’t agree with them, since even if they stop the egregious crimes they’re still on the wrong side of morality in pretty much every way that matters. The church’s positions regarding women in general are beyond misogyny, just dehumanizing really, that I will never turn to them for guidance on anything.
I find it funny that the Bishop’s concerns are about “annihilating the concept of nature” but not protecting women from the boogey man called trans women. It’s clear that he’s worried about the power of the church (and therefore his power) rather than any facade of pretending to care about the people involved. Not that I believe any anti transgender person cares about protecting women and children from the predatory transgender agenda (it’s not real nor are there many predatory transgender people stalking bathrooms). At least he’s not trying to use the vulnerability of women and girls to abuse innocent people, but he’s still not willing to acknowledge the humanity of women, or LGBT people.
It’s good the school is admitting trans women, for now.
The one of the few good things I can say about the Catholic Church, having grown up in it, is that the majority of Catholics take their religion with a grain of salt. There are, however, Catholic fundamentalists who are every bit as intolerant as every other fundamentalist. This seems to be the case with the man opposing the admission of trans women. Their solution to every problem is turning back the clock, which never works.
I see from the tweets referenced above that Railey Gaines has seen fit to weigh in on this. Guess she's still all butthurt about tying for fifth place with a trans woman in a college swim competition. She already caused enough damage to trans women's ability to compete in women's sports (as if less competition would have made her a better swimmer), now she wants them barred from all women's colleges as well.
I mean, tying for fifth place for chrissakes, and here it is a year later and she's still smoldering over it. Guess what, Riley, at least four other women did better in that competition than either you or the trans woman you hate so much. She made a decent showing, but she's hardly the threat you make her out to be. Let me pour you a nice tall glass of get the fuck over yourself. Oh, and here's a straw so you can suck it up.
"The school has betrayed its Catholic mission."
Like the Catholic Church had a mission during the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Medieval Witch Hunts, the Conquistadores, the convert-or-die missionaries in the 'New World'...
Look at your religion's bloody history, Ms./Mrs. Ezell. Trans women are what get you riled? How do feel about the RCC and its traditional treatment of women? Have you withheld giving your money at Mass on Sunday due to the RCCs appalling track record on child sexual abuse by its clergy? Maybe it's time for you to sort out your priorities.
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Those anti-vaxx, pro-disease Christians are at it again.
'Medical Freedom' Activists Take Aim at New Target: Childhood Vaccine Mandates"
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/medical-freedom-activists-aim-target-155947790.html
"Medical Freedom." Christianese for "Freedom to infect both our children and yours with deadly diseases because our imaginary friend takes priority over all health and safety." Not surprised this is happening in Mississippi. They're tied with Alabama as the most religious state in the country. What IS surprising is that for 4 decades they had one of the strictest school vaccination requirements in the USofA.
I keep saying it. Unless you are a Christian Scientist or a member of the Dutch Reformed Church, you have no religious basis for being opposed to vaccination.
Last time I checked trans people are human beings so they are natural in my eyes.
[Hear the word of the Lord, you rulers of Sodom; listen to the instruction of our God, you people of Gomorrah! The multitude of your sacrifices— what are they to me?” says the Lord.
“I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you,this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations— I cannot bear your worthless assemblies. Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals I hate with all my being. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them.
When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening.
Your hands are full of blood!
Wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight; stop doing wrong. Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.]
Forgive the long quote. God supposedly told his people that he hates all of the religious ritual. He hates people having worship services while the people lack love and empathy and a passion for justice for those who are poor or oppressed or ostracized by the larger culture and community.
I wouldn't expect a Catholic Bishop to particularly care about my interpretation of the Bible, but having studied this book most of my life, I would say that this message about loving the "least of these" being more important than religious ritual stretches from Isaiah to Jesus.
Granted, Ezra and Nehemiah emphasize the opposite. But Ezra and Nehemiah were assholes. And so are you, Bishop, if you cannot love your trans-neighbor as yourself and cling to your bigoted dogma.
"annihilate the concept of nature"
How many people are going to read that and be like, hey, ya know, he's got a point there. No wonder the flock don't listen.
Fundamentalists. Ruin. Everything.
I just received my flu shot and latest cootie (my name for covid in 2020, not to downplay it, but to keep me from losing my mind) vaccine. Primed for winter.
"The Vatican says trans identities seek to 'annihilate the concept of nature'“
It might annihilate YOUR concept of nature, but nature is far, far more complicated than your childishly simplistic, centuries-behind concept. One of the most complicated parts of nature is human nature, and one of the most complicated parts of that is human sexuality. Nature owes nothing to you to fit into your self-serving little box. Your vain, naïve concepts are like flimsy folded paper boats on a vast, stormy sea. Nature doesn't give a damn about your concepts, and increasingly, society is dismissing them too.
"… After a formal warning, [Bishop Rhoades] could prohibit the university from identifying itself as Catholic..."
Since Catholic institutions are increasingly using that word as a fading status symbol rather than a statement of fealty to an aging, legalistic anachronism, perhaps the college could proudly rename themselves "Mary's EX CATHOLIC College," and enjoy even more prestige based entirely on their academic excellence and progressive policies.
Normally, I try to avoid reading too much into things, but in this case, I'm sort of feeling like this bishop is just mad his privileged opinion wasn't asked by the women he seems to think are subordinate to him.
Kudos to St. Mary's for at least attempting to do the right thing. My guess is that this bishop is going to be difficult about it for a while, though. I still would like to see religion out of education, but I'm willing to give them credit for making the effort where it's due. I guess we'll see if it lasts.
“Most practicing Catholics are far more tolerant than the pope or the Vatican.”
Take Hispanic Catholics out of the mix and US Catholics poll closely with white US evangelicals.
Wonder what the common denominator(s) might be?
OT - Interesting and true
𝐈𝐟 𝐌𝐨𝐦𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐜𝐨-𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐱 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐚 𝐰𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐧, 𝐰𝐡𝐲 𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚’𝐬 𝐠𝐚𝐲𝐬?
https://news.yahoo.com/moms-liberty-co-founder-had-011147807.html
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Oooooooh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BywoLxuBgT0
When the Catholic Church starts taking the pedo priest thing seriously is when I stop completely ignoring them on matters of morality. I won’t agree with them, since even if they stop the egregious crimes they’re still on the wrong side of morality in pretty much every way that matters. The church’s positions regarding women in general are beyond misogyny, just dehumanizing really, that I will never turn to them for guidance on anything.
I find it funny that the Bishop’s concerns are about “annihilating the concept of nature” but not protecting women from the boogey man called trans women. It’s clear that he’s worried about the power of the church (and therefore his power) rather than any facade of pretending to care about the people involved. Not that I believe any anti transgender person cares about protecting women and children from the predatory transgender agenda (it’s not real nor are there many predatory transgender people stalking bathrooms). At least he’s not trying to use the vulnerability of women and girls to abuse innocent people, but he’s still not willing to acknowledge the humanity of women, or LGBT people.
It’s good the school is admitting trans women, for now.
The Bishop and his diocese don't contribute any money toward the running of Saint Mary's College, so he can just STFU.
That being said, why do we still have single-sex colleges?